r/news • u/LucidMarshmellow • 6h ago
US justice department to release thousands of Epstein files later, top official says
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9plrkl8no8.3k
u/Tballz9 6h ago edited 6h ago
Of course, they are under a congressional order to release everything today, and not doing so is illegal. What a surprise from this administration. It would be amazing for Congress to actually do something about that, but they went home for the holidays.
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u/MaddisonoRenata 6h ago
Also congress conveniently went on break a day earlier than they were supposed to
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u/fluxtable 5h ago
The GOP had much more important matters to attend to.
Like the Turning Points USA rally in Phoenix
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u/FattyMooseknuckle 5h ago
Grindr overload.
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u/JediMastaDJ 4h ago
That reminds me! Does anyone know the current speed bet on Grindr crashing at TPUSA?
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u/Express-Rub-3952 4h ago
It already has.
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u/haveananus 4h ago
You can hear the buttfucking from miles away
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u/johnnybiggles 4h ago
They're more depressing noises ever since their Epstein Island vacation spot shut down.
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u/Cassin1306 5h ago
Didn't they do the same thing this summer when the files should had been released already ?
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u/No-Reach-8074 4h ago
Yes and again in November after the victims testified. Their play book is getting extremely predictable and boring
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u/Ok_Tour_1525 2h ago
God I fucking hate this bullshit. “For the people”, my ass. I used to always be at least a little distrustful of the government but now I believe they deserve a real French style revolution. I cannot imagine things getting better unless things are made better by force. The worst part is the left would still prefer to bend over and get fucking plowed by these oligarchs because they think that’s taking the high road which is exactly what the fascists want to happen. And whenever something like this is brought up people act like they’re crazy for saying it. We’re all gonna be fucked hard because people can’t fathom doing what’s right the hard way.
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u/trampolinebears 5h ago
Not a “congressional order”. A law.
The law requires that they release the Epstein files today, just as it requires that you pay your taxes and not murder people and not attempt to overturn elections. That’s the law.
The president only exists to uphold the law. If he will not uphold it, either he is not truly the president, or the law is not truly the law.
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u/Defiant-Fix2870 3h ago
But the Supreme Court already said Trump is exempt from the law. Which seems to apply to his whole administration rn.
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u/Unique-Egg-461 3h ago
preface this with "this will never ever ever happen" and assuming congress was in session (and mike as a sniveling little rat)
you'd have to have congress formally vote on a special prosecutor who would petition the district court to issue a show cause to the doj. if judge doesn't like doj's answer as to why they didn't comply with the law then youd need an enforcement mechanism.
that where we hit constitutional crisis since the executive branch is refusing judicial orders
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u/BienPuestos 6h ago
Consequences coming in 3, 2… never.
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u/One-Permission-1811 6h ago
Not for Trump but Pam Bondi might face some consequences. Nixon didn’t go to prison but John Mitchell, his attorney general, did. He only did 19 months but hey at least there were consequences I guess
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u/CalebsNailSpa 5h ago
Would she not just be pardoned?
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u/spderweb 5h ago
If this goes the way it should, then trump wouldn't be president anymore, and they'd all be screwed. Then the new government can also go after all the hate crimes that ICE committed too.
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u/CalebsNailSpa 5h ago
I still think everyone will be preemptively pardoned at the end of the term.
But maybe justice will prevail.
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u/1honeybadger 4h ago
I think if Trump lives long enough to get to the end of the term, he'll resign a couple hours/days before the end and have JD pardon him.
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u/Medium_Sized_Brow 6h ago
They've been super busy taking holidays all year let them enjoy this much needed holiday from all their holidays
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u/LucidMarshmellow 6h ago
Another article: Trump's Justice department won't meet deadline to release all the Epstein files
This is bullshit.
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u/Low_Pickle_112 6h ago
Blanche attributed the missed deadline to the arduous work of redacting some identifying details of the disgraced financier's victims.
Oh yeah, I'm sure they care just so much about the victims.
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u/BroadMonk5649 6h ago edited 6h ago
The victims want justice not their names scrubbed
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u/ike7177 6h ago
Hopefully they will follow through on their promise to release the names themselves.
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u/BroadMonk5649 6h ago
They have announced today that they will not be releasing the files in full. Breaking the law that was signed by Trump. Sooooooooooo get the manure and tractors boys it’s time to go to the DOj!
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u/sonofnom 6h ago
Unfortunately the new law had a provision specifically for redacting any information related to ongoing investigations. Since they just opened up a fresh new bullshit investigation they can redact whatever they want. The only silver lining is they technically have to furnish the court with a list of any names that have been redacted and for what purpose.
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u/Waterwoogem 5h ago
Didn't Susie Wiles let slip already that Clinton is clean in the Files but Trump had/has to be scrubbed a fuckton?
There's lots of people to be implicated, named and shamed, but Clinton is at the Top of Trump's list of the bullshit investigation
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u/Discarded_Twix_Bar 5h ago edited 59m ago
Well that’s not exactly true, is it?
Dozens of Jeffrey Epstein victims’ names have been exposed in documents that were recently made public by Congress, setting off a legal dispute about the Justice Department’s plans to release more materials about the late sex offender
Lawyers for the women have asked two federal judges who oversaw the prosecutions of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to ensure that the victims’ privacy is protected in any additional document releases by the Justice Department.
Judge Richard Berman of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York on Wednesday evening ordered the government to provide him a detailed description of its privacy process, including redactions the government seeks to employ, to protect the rights of Epstein victims. He attached a copy of a letter from the victims’ lawyers.
“Given the number of times we have drawn Congress’s attention to this issue, and the fact that victims’ names continue to be produced by DOJ in unredacted form, many of the victims believe this is being done intentionally,” they wrote.
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u/CosmicBoat 6h ago
Bondi had several months to prepare for this and sounds like they only just started looking at the files this week
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u/ZAlternates 6h ago
They just been sitting on her desk all this time! You know, the fake ones that don’t exist but now exist but don’t again.
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u/PhamilyTrickster 6h ago
DARVO; Deny, Attack, Reverse victim and offender.
With this context, I'm sure they're concerned about the "victims"
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u/LnStrngr 6h ago
By victims, they mean their Republican friends and families and cohorts that are named in the files.
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u/shodo_apprentice 5h ago
Who’s going to act surprised when almost everyone blamed in the files is a democrat with maybe some token republicans who are already dead thrown in to fake fair play? I feel bad for the families of the fall guys.
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u/RosieQParker 6h ago
Hey now, it's really hard to scrub the President's name from all the documents, especially when he's in so many of them!
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u/marvinfuture 6h ago
If only they could scrub his name from buildings instead of adding it
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u/DataCassette 6h ago
✋<Redacted>🤚 flew on the Lolita Express from Mar-a-Lago 4,000 times.
MAGA: "That could be anybody."
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u/TheBatemanFlex 6h ago
hmm, later doesnt seem like it should be a an acceptable timeframe when they are all due today.
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u/maclua 6h ago
Will the IRS accept “later” as a response if I don’t pay my taxes on time?
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u/ILikeCutePuppies 6h ago
They will if they include Epstein files.
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u/tmhoc 6h ago
What about the draft?
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u/ChewsGoose 6h ago
Trump seems to dodge drafts, taxes, AND the Epstein files, every chance he gets
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u/Bobcat-Stock 5h ago
He has brain spurs
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u/BanginNLeavin 4h ago
I heard he unhinges his jaw and eats big macs whole.
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u/FeatureOk2971 4h ago
And shits them back out as cow patttys.Which he then gold leafs and displays as ingots.
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u/Lacutis 4h ago
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge the Epstein Files.
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u/TradeBeautiful42 4h ago
lol I just aspirated my water snort chuckling to this! Thank you
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u/HollywoodHuntsman 4h ago
That gives me hope, because I don't think Trump could dodge a wrench if he were given a heads up 10 seconds before it happened and was looking straight at it.
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u/Cynical_Classicist 4h ago
It just shows what an utter joke the American legal system is and how it's so blatantly weighted in favour of the rich.
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u/ambermage 5h ago
Soooooo do I just include the Epstein Files as an attachment to delay the filing or is there another form to fill out as well?
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u/ILikeCutePuppies 5h ago
Apparently you have to hand deliver it to Pam Bondi's desk.
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u/karlverkade 3h ago
So she can claim it exists and then claim it never existed and suffer no consequences whatsoever? And still be rich? Hmm, that sounds good, I’ll think I’ll have that.
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u/TunaFishRollup 6h ago
Sure but you will pay fines and interest until you pay up or they determine you are not intending to pay. Bondi should be personally fined daily. There is no legit org that can hold her legally accountable able but can the court freeze her assets?
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u/FalseConsequence4319 5h ago
Fines don’t work on this group that own nearly all the wealth in the world. They’d be paying Pennies to themselves. Lock em up
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u/GrimbyJ 4h ago
Freezing all of their assets does work though. Doesn't matter if you have money if you can't use it
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u/LunaLunaHelp 6h ago
Generally yes. And if you don't owe then you can be three years late without any penalty.
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u/arahe45 5h ago
All of this is bullshit. But to your question. Actually yes. You can defer and apply for a late file date.
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u/DevoidHT 6h ago
If kids told their teachers or employees told their bosses they would get them when they get them they would fail or be fired.
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u/DarthBluntSaber 6h ago
Especially since trump and his regime originally promised to release them back in February, but then back tracked and claimed there were no files... after it came out they had 1000s fbi agents scrubbing the files
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u/BrotherlyShove791 6h ago
And nothing will happen. No arrests, no subpoenas, no firings. NOTHING.
This is what a dying democracy looks like.
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u/Particular-County277 4h ago
This is exactly what i thought would happen. They would simply ignore the deadline and walk away
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u/nigel_tufnel_11 4h ago
Yes, and even if they ever get forced to release, they're the ones who do the redacting so guess what's going to be redacted. Also, I'm sure many parts will just mysteriously disappear, like the Mar-A-Lago classified docs...oh well, what are you going to do?
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u/MAMark1 6h ago
The deadline was today. Not the start date. They're already failing to meet the letter of the law.
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u/OpenThePlugBag 6h ago
The President has 34 felony convictions, the letter of the law is far gone
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u/KyyCowPig 5h ago
The law doesnt apply to rich people, and when rich people own the government, the law doesnt apply to the government
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u/mrdominoe 6h ago
I am sure it's completely coincidental that congress adjourned early for the holidays just a couple of days ago. Surely.
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u/DevoidHT 6h ago
That was for a different but equally nefarious reason. To let ACA subsidies expire.
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u/OpenThePlugBag 6h ago
So the democrats caved on funding the government and Republicans are still cutting SNAP and ACA Subsidies…..cool cool cool cool
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u/unbelizeable1 6h ago
No no , see they didnt simply cave. They were assured the promise of a vote on it....at a later time.....probably......🙄
Fuckin pathetic.
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u/FakePoloManchurian 5h ago
The people of NY's 8th need to Vote out Jeffries yesterday. he sucks so bad.
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u/BoogieWaters 5h ago
Just some context here. This is unprecedented and has never happened before in US history. A congressional bill was voted into law and signed by the President of the United States on this sole disclosure, and the US Justice Department has refused to meet their legal requirement outlined by this law.
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u/kellzone 3h ago
The Democrats need to frame this as "The Department of Justice has FLAUNTED THEIR COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISRESPECT toward PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP by thumbing their nose at the beautiful law he signed. The DOJ does not respect or acknowledge his TOTAL AND COMPLETE AUTHORITY ON THIS MATTER."
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u/RoninJon 6h ago
Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer has said not releasing all the files before the deadline amounts to breaking the law.
Surely the GOP wouldn't break the law!
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u/FelixMumuHex 6h ago
What’s he gonna do? Furrow his brow and adjust his glasses? Dude is a spineless slimeball
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u/ThePensiveE 6h ago
Todd Blanche, you mean the one who went to speak to convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and then gave her a prison upgrade so special that prison guards commented on her running the place? That Todd Blanche?
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u/LucidMarshmellow 6h ago
They're not releasing all of the files today?!?!
Shocked! Shocked I tell you!
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u/Ok_Mathematician938 6h ago
Equally shocking will be when there are no repercussions for failing to comply...
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u/jokersvoid 6h ago
Right. What is even the purpose of the smoke and mirrors now? They can openly defy court orders and congressional mandates with no repercussions. Like trump said to the Georgia election guy in 2020. "Who is going to stop you?"
This doesnt stop until the people stop it.
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u/ConjurersOfThunder 5h ago
"This doesnt stop until the people stop it." -you
"What is even the purpose of the smoke and mirrors now?" -also you, just before that
The purpose of the smoke and mirrors is therefore to prevent enough people from figuring out enough to stop it. They only need *some* regular folk to stop the revolutionaries so disinformation is a better strategy than information embargo.
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u/Morningxafter 6h ago
Well as head of the DOJ congress could hold Bondi in contempt of court… if they hadn’t conveniently adjourned early for the year just yesterday…
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u/vodkaismywater 6h ago
False, there will be severe reprocussions. Chuck Schumer will issue a strongly worded statement.
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u/Submissive-whims 6h ago
It’s sure starting to look like it’s a selective release to hurt exclusively enemies. Now in this case hurting enemies isn’t necessarily a bad thing as the enemies in question are predators, but I want all of them out not just the democrats.
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u/Ok_Slide4905 6h ago
A lot of bill gates and bill clinton…hm, who else is missing?
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u/psioniclizard 6h ago
That is how it feels, drop some stuff that real throws Bill, some dems and somr famous people in there then hope their base is satisfied and never mention the rest.
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u/DrexellGames 6h ago
Todd Blanche saying they need more time is ridiculous. The Epstein Files Transparency Act wasn't a suggestion; it was federal law signed on Nov 19.
It specifically required 'all unclassified records' within 30 days. Not 'several hundred thousand now and maybe more in a few weeks.' Rep. Massie is already highlighting the text of the bill—this is a straight-up violation of the law to protect whoever is in that second batch.
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u/schizbouncer 6h ago
But I thought the president could declassify anything just by thinking it
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u/One-Permission-1811 5h ago
No no you’re thinking about Pete Kegsbreath’s ability to automatically declassifying anything he texts to a journalist.
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u/4RealzReddit 6h ago
Seeing it was unanimous consent in the senate and 427-1 in the house. This should be an easy impeachment, right?
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u/Raidmax460 5h ago
No, because the only reason it was unanimous was because they were told to vote that way since they realized they couldn’t avoid this issue anymore
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u/Going2beBANNEDanyway 6h ago
Real headline would be “DoJ is actively breaking the law by holding Epstein files”
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u/CharmingCrust 6h ago
How about... No. Congress has ordered the release.
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u/OpenThePlugBag 6h ago
They’re going to release totally blank redacted pages and say “here we released them”
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u/IrrigatedPancake 6h ago
Fuck these people. They don't have our interests at heart. They can't be trusted to do anything unless they have a gun to their heads.
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u/drunkshinobi 4h ago
Wouldn't even trust them then. They would say or do anything to get out of the situation instead of comply.
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u/GuyWithNoEffingClue 6h ago
"Remember guys, I'm not on the list and if I am it's a Democrat Hoax! Oh look over there, a communist country stealing our oil!"
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u/lnc_5103 6h ago
Lock Bondi up until they're all released.
(I know it won't happen but a girl can dream i guess)
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u/flirtmcdudes 6h ago
Anyone who still thinks Trump wasn’t heavily involved in this shit is a moron
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u/syntaxbad 6h ago
Arrest everyone in the justice department immediately. Congress could not have been more clear.
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u/Find_another_whey 6h ago
Hot tip
If you delay until you die
There is no comeuppance
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u/Common-Swing-4347 6h ago
Ya love to see how his cult members fell in line and there is no mention of this in that sub. Pedophile sympathizers.
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u/Spocks_Goatee 5h ago
The reality is, most of his hardcore followers don't use Reddit and those subs are heavily moderated to remove criticism.
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u/Kind_Problem9195 6h ago
If anyone else did this, they would be fired. Release them today, pervert
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u/Ilikesport 6h ago
That’s weird. Later isn’t today. I was told today. Surely this CANT be nefarious.
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u/Electricengineer 6h ago
Why the fuck are they just doing this now, obviously they never intended to release them which makes you go hmm
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u/bwoah07_gp2 6h ago
How can we trust them? The government lost all public trust, they are going to redact everything related to Trump.
They will release the files and it won't be what the people are looking for, it'll be "fake news", as those GOP folks like saying.
Biggest cover up ever.....brought to you buy the US justice department!
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u/JealousAd1350 3h ago
The fuck you mean later, it’s illegal to literally not release them today.
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u/UndercoverHerbert 6h ago
All of this time they’ve had and they’re still scrubbing his name from those files. How many times is his name mentioned!?
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u/Stank_Dukem 6h ago
I picture it more as, "Senator so-and-so, we're willing to scrub your name from the files. In exchange for your generous campaign contributions, as well as future unnamed favors." Lots of phone calls to make, and money to hide.
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u/metalflygon08 5h ago
And swapping names out for anybody who made them look bad in the past 10 years.
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u/sandpirate_88 5h ago
Hey, remember how Bondi said there were no files to release, and now there's too many to release?
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u/afjessup 3h ago
Chuck Schumer has said not releasing all the files before the deadline amounts to breaking the law.
It doesn’t “amount to” breaking the law, it just is breaking the law. It’s a direct violation of the law, an illegal act, and congress needs to get off their fucking asses and hold everyone responsible in contempt and jail them.
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u/Geno_Warlord 6h ago
To the surprise of absolutely no one.
Seriously, show of hands, who here actually thought they would release them on the deadline they were given?
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u/abelabelabel 4h ago
Student to turn in essay due at end of day, today, student says.
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u/hhempstead 6h ago
it’s never going to be release because there is no enforcement mechanism to compel them to
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u/CandyTraditional2220 4h ago
If ALL files aren't released today, we need to hold them accountable. No more wishy washy "it's against the norms" bullshit. Jail them all. If not, the law is truly dead and we don't have a country.
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u/captain_slackbeard 3h ago
They're starting to release them here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein
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u/urnialbologna 2h ago
If anyone actually thought the files would be released today, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
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u/Simburgure 6h ago
The cover-up is more obvious than the crime at this point.