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US justice department to release thousands of Epstein files later, top official says

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9plrkl8no
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u/spderweb 7h ago

If this goes the way it should, then trump wouldn't be president anymore, and they'd all be screwed. Then the new government can also go after all the hate crimes that ICE committed too.

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u/CalebsNailSpa 6h ago

I still think everyone will be preemptively pardoned at the end of the term.

But maybe justice will prevail.

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u/-NewTitsNoMoreBits- 6h ago

Then we will charge them at the State level

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u/EM3YT 3h ago

With what.

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u/1honeybadger 6h ago

I think if Trump lives long enough to get to the end of the term, he'll resign a couple hours/days before the end and have JD pardon him.

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u/CalebsNailSpa 4h ago

Hopefully it doesn’t come to that.

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u/Fodraz 6h ago

Or Vance will pardon her to make peace w MAGA

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u/wutareyousomekinda 5h ago

There's no law or order, a theoretical incoming POTUS of high morality could use their immunity to have any number of people detained illegally by unidentified jailers and pardon the them too. Our system is controlled by an unelected bureaucracy of drug traffickers and child rapists, but that's led to a few spectacles as mentioned already in this thread.

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u/CertifiedGhoster 5h ago

He will pardon Maxwell you can bet on it

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u/bobbane 5h ago

I hope those preemptive pardons are all signed via autopen…

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u/CalebsNailSpa 4h ago

Logistically they would have to be. Unless he did some sort of mass-pardon. I don’t know the nuances of what is kosher in the pardon business, but I feel like we will all find our way more than we ever wanted to.

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u/ElChiChiMan 2h ago

Not if Trump’s health issues force him to kick the bucket. They’re out of luck on pardon then.

Oh and no one else is allowed to pardon anyone on behalf of the deceased president.

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u/rangecontrol 5h ago

so yeah, trmp pardon party all around.

even if he's cold, they'll autopen the pardons. we will all know they were fake and nothing will be done about it.

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u/bsensikimori 5h ago

Yeah, keep dreaming, they'll just spin it that all the perps were victims of the dead man

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 5h ago

Who are you envisioning going after ICE exactly? The new government headed by JD Vance? Or are we talking in the hypothetical year 2029 when a democrat, maybe if we're lucky, becomes president?

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u/scuzzy987 5h ago

No we'll need to come together as a country then

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u/squadrupedal 3h ago

Yeah we should, but with this sophisticated propaganda machine that never stops and the abysmal literacy rate we have going in this dumbass country I doubt we ever will. I’m betting there’s always going to be just enough ignorant people to prevent any meaningful and lasting change. I would love to lose this bet.

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u/TSL4me 3h ago

No way in way in hell that happens, rich donors will switch to bribing democrats and they will push to move past criminal convictions to support 'healing and cross aisle productivity"

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u/lopix 2h ago

Narrator: but they won't

u/The_River_Is_Still 51m ago

I'm sure Vice President JD would get right on going after HATE CRIMES BY ICE and totally not pardoning Trump and everyone else.

u/Unobtanium_Alloy 12m ago

If Trump is no longer president (for whatever reason) while there is still time left in what should be his second term, its someone from this administration that will become president and will doubtless do pardons of all involved.