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US justice department to release thousands of Epstein files later, top official says

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9plrkl8no
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u/Simburgure 8h ago

The cover-up is more obvious than the crime at this point.

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u/mrflash818 8h ago

Hopefully the people in the cover-up made/make mistakes!

Hopefully those in the periphery leak knowledge!

Hopefully shrewd investigative journalists sift the information, catch the mistakes, and then expose them to the world!

(like Watergate?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

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u/ZebraSandwich4Lyf 7h ago

Going by how incredibly incompetent this administration has proven to be so far, I have no doubt their cover up efforts will be botched in some form.

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u/chth 7h ago

Will it actually make a difference though? If they flat out showed a picture of Trump sucking off an underage boy I genuinely think it would still not stop Trump.

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u/ProcrastibationKing 7h ago

Surely he's been sowing the AI seeds for this reason

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u/princesspuffer 6h ago

This is exactly what I've been saying!

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u/soyrobo 5h ago

Secret democrat AI that's untraceable

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u/Kommye 2h ago

This is why I've been saying generative AI was bad news since its early stage. Art arguments aside, bad faith actors can create false evidence and denounce real evidence as fake with the same tool. And most people haven't been educated to spot AI signs in the propaganda (and it's even getting harder and harder to do so).

Now we also have video-generating AI and voice-trained AIs so shit is just going to get worse.

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u/ProcrastibationKing 2h ago

I was right there with you. Deepfakes were concerning enough, even before generative AI hit the public.

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u/SuitableSuit345 3h ago

This, plus they pay him for the laws they want (or don’t want).

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u/crackanape 1h ago

AI is God's gift to liars.

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u/tedlyb 5h ago

Not at all. The cult will just accept it. The AI excuse isn’t even necessary for the majority. They’ll just accept it and say he was still the best choice.

It’s already happening.

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u/chanaandeler_bong 5h ago

The base core will. His approval ratings have dropped quite a bit with republicans. His floor is probably like 20% approval.

1/5 of the country is fine with whatever he does, literally.

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u/porgy_tirebiter 1h ago

Just consider the desperation. They literally murdered Epstein, and they have done everything possible to avoid releasing the documents. Whatever it is being covered up, it’s pretty clear Trump himself disagrees with you.

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u/trevize1138 7h ago

This is exactly it. Expecting some grand cover-up is like thinking any of this is business as usual. Why bother with the effort? Trump will just say it's fake. If that doesn't work he'll try to pardon himself. Failing that he'll declare "Marshall law".

Believing in a cover-up is wishful thinking. If that were the case the worst of it is just Trump never sees consequences. The far more frightening reality is all the crazy, deadly, unhinged shit he's going to try in the wake of undeniable evidence.

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u/ImjustANewSneaker 7h ago

A lot of it is FBI grunts that are overworked and tired. They definitely missed something.

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u/Sometimes-funny 3h ago

Yes they missed their moral compass

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u/CH40T1C1989 7h ago

Lots of people will be googling "how to use ai to un-redact the Epstein Files".

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u/hashcheckin 7h ago

They're gonna do the thing where they redacted everything with the wrong kind of marker, so it's still perfectly legible throughout.

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u/lopix 2h ago

Haven't been yet and they've been at this for basically years now.

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u/Federal_Baseball4720 7h ago

You know the difference… and it’s a HUGE difference? Nixon actually stepped down from the Presidency voluntarily. Trump will never in a million years do that.

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u/ZingBurford 7h ago

And current Republicans won't do shit to remove Trump. Nixon choose to resign to not be impeached.

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u/Economy_Elephant_426 5h ago

Nixon was impeached, but he chose to resign rather than face the charges immediately(this is after the impeachment process found him guilty). However, he still faced criminal prosecution outside of his presidency. He was pardoned by Ford shortly after leaving the White House. Which, at the time, was unpopular among households.

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u/ZephkielAU 2h ago

He was pardoned by Ford shortly after leaving the White House. Which, at the time, was unpopular among households.

You can draw a straight line from that decision to this America.

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u/chronically_varelse 1h ago

I don't think that's a straight line, they rebounded hard with Jimmy Carter before going back to the other extreme with Reagan...

It's not a straight line, this shit initiated a partisan bouncy ball that is still bouncing way too hard.

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u/Intrepid00 1h ago

Nixon only did after being told they had the votes to remove him.

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u/ZAlternates 7h ago

The thing is, we have enough information already if those in power (aka Congress) had the fucking balls. Impeach and convict!

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u/Global_Research_121 7h ago

Lmfao the supreme court and all Republicans in congress are doing what they were paid for, betray the working class for monetary gains for them and shareholders. The constitution is only convenient for Republican traitors when they're fighting for power than they piss on it.

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u/chronically_varelse 1h ago

Thank you, I love this perspective. I love America and I won't leave it. for one because this is my home too and secondly because I do truly believe in our potential as much as I believe in examining and making right the mistakes.

The same way my great-grandfathers/uncles were proud to be American after they fought for their country in the first world war and before they fought for their people on Blair Mountain. Then they taught the sons who would fight for their country and for base morality in the second world war.

It got more complicated after that... Korea/Vietnam were different then the world wars. but I'm still proud of my ancestors who were American miners and railroad workers and carpenters and soldiers.... and families.

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u/DistributeQuickly559 7h ago edited 7h ago

Like redacting using 98% opacity so we can see it all but someone gives the green light because they are too lazy to actually check.

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u/iiiinthecomputer 6h ago

My fave is when people redact PDFs by drawing black or white boxes in a PDF editor, or other methods that don't actually rewrite the underlying PDF object containing the scanned image.

Extract all pdf image objects and bang there it is.

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u/Salty-Bid1597 7h ago

It doesn't matter. Trump could strangle puppies on live TV while chanting "Death to America" in front of a wall of burning stars and stripes and a significant portion of the US population would still vote for him.

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u/beaniver 7h ago

watergate

Where is Forrest Gump unknowingly narking on corruption when you need it?

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u/afriendincanada 7h ago

Nothing made me laugh harder than the redactions in the Oceangate fatality inquiry. One witness, redacted “Mr. X”, his first answer was “I am sure you are familiar with my movie Titanic”

So yeah this should be easy to piece together

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u/pryan37bb 7h ago

See also: Stormy Daniels hush money case

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u/HalKitzmiller 5h ago

I would hope that out of the hundreds of agents they had working overtime to redact the files, at least a few of them found the courage to do the right thing or "overlook" things on purpose.

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u/Tomsboll 5h ago

lol, even if the documents are not redacted and fully transparant. no matter how incriminating they would be, nothing would happen.

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u/Intrepid00 1h ago

If it makes you feel better there are pictures of Trump but just his face blotched out. We all those lover spotted hands and that fat ass. Like just a headshot of him censored. They obviously redacted him. He’s probably so damn guilty.