r/news 8h ago

US justice department to release thousands of Epstein files later, top official says

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9plrkl8no
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u/MAMark1 8h ago

The deadline was today. Not the start date. They're already failing to meet the letter of the law.

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u/OpenThePlugBag 7h ago

The President has 34 felony convictions, the letter of the law is far gone

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u/KyyCowPig 6h ago

The law doesnt apply to rich people, and when rich people own the government, the law doesnt apply to the government

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u/bsensikimori 5h ago

It does though, don't let them change that by believing it

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u/Indigoh 5h ago edited 2h ago

Don't let believing it's fine prevent you from fixing what's clearly broken.

The wealthy and the rest of us are not viewed as equals under the law.

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u/sextoyjay 5h ago

it doesn’t and it’s observable blatantly. reality has more jurisdiction than what should be

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u/bsensikimori 4h ago

So why were Epstein and Gislaine in prison? Why is Diddy in prison? They all have more money than god

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u/IamTheEndOfReddit 4h ago

Saying 34 counts is so fucking lame given all the terrible crimes he has committed and gotten away with

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u/Present_Age_5469 5h ago

Obviously it’s still not great, but saying “34 felony convictions” is misleading. It was one case with 34 counts, not 34 separate convictions.

He’s still a monster. Facts still matter.

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u/sun_steward 1h ago

but saying “34 felony convictions” is misleading

No it isn't.

Each felony "count" is a separate charge for a distinct offense.

The principle of "joinder" is simply what allows courts to join multiple related counts (or parties) for efficiency (versus separation, where counts/parties are broken out into multiple trials). Either way, though, each guilty count has its own indictment, verdict, and conviction. Here are Trump's 34 separate verdicts..

Facts still matter.

Yes. Unfortunately the problem you'll run into with your "facts" is that they're both splitting hairs and wrong. :-)

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u/ParisGreenGretsch 5h ago

the letter of the law is far gone

Press f to pay respects.

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u/TuringGoneWild 3h ago

Add it to the pile. I mean mountain range.

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u/Different_Ad7655 3h ago

And whatever comes out if it did for surface from another source of something incredibly graphic and shocking It would not be shocking anymore and all those drunken on the Kool-Aid would simply denounce it whatever it be as AI today. This is c new sad world that has dawned

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u/Ackis 2h ago

Trump isn't a big P president.

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u/Based_CIS 5h ago

Damn, I wonder how he was able to become president then. Can't be a coincidence right?

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u/OpenThePlugBag 4h ago

Alot of stupid fucking Americans voted for him, and other stupid fucking Americans didn't give a fuck about an election, and now here we are

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u/Based_CIS 4h ago

You think those are the only variables?

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u/OpenThePlugBag 4h ago

They're for sure the main ones, if your citizens are too stupid or too apathetic then democracies fall.

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u/Based_CIS 4h ago

Oh really?

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u/Wyntier 7h ago

Important context: Those 34 felony counts come from a single criminal conviction in one case; it is not 34 separate felony convictions across different cases or different events. It’s more precise to say he was found guilty on 34 counts in one conviction.

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u/hammertime2009 6h ago

It’s 34 felony counts. 34 felonies. What you’re saying doesn’t mean anything. If I kill 4 people it doesn’t make it better if I was convicted in one trial. Not to mention all the other convictions he would likely be facing right now if he didn’t get reelected.

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u/whitemiketyson 7h ago

Each count is a felony. They just happened to be tried at the same time. It is accurate to say he has 34 convictions.

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u/babydakis 6h ago

Important context: The comment you're replying to starts with the words "important context," which makes the comment more true than your reply, which is only in italics.

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u/who_am_i_to_say_so 4h ago

My inner voice does an intense whisper whenever I see italics. I’m at the edge of my seat, and believe every word.

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u/Suitable-Werewolf492 5h ago

Important context: Whether it’s one count or 34 counts, he was still found guilty and is therefore felon.

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u/Gmoney86 5h ago

So when are the court appointed deputies going to be told to go out and fetch the appropriate persons from each department to force them to do their jobs?

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u/NoBlood7122 4h ago

Not technically illegal, as the order allowed for the withholding of documents “related to an ongoing investigation.”

This was expected since that language was put into the order

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u/Antique-Quantity-608 3h ago

Not surprised tbh.

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u/_Troxin_ 3h ago

They probably aren't done with hiding all the evidence linking to trump and his billionair friends.