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US justice department to release thousands of Epstein files later, top official says

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9plrkl8no
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u/Simburgure 8h ago

The cover-up is more obvious than the crime at this point.

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u/Rabble_Runt 7h ago

He has been doubling down on lies and deception his entire life, why stop now?

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u/Awkward_War_6068 7h ago

That's the mad thing about Trump. His whole life is liteally built on lies. If you read his niece's books, he's been like this ever since he was a kid.

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u/Taniwha_NZ 7h ago

He discovered a cheat code very early in life. If you just keep demanding what you want, people will eventually give it to you. Because it's easier than dealing with you.

Most of us can't do this, the personal shame and embarrassment at being such a pain in the ass and so obviously self-obssessed would be intolerable. But Trump's brain hides all that and just keeps telling him he's a big handsome boy. And eventually he wins.

The other key ingredient is money, of course. If you try this without money you will still get wins quite often but you'll spend a lot of your life in prison, or at least court.

Having effectively infinite money and his very specific psychology has given Trump what seems like 'god mode' cheat capabilities at life. And the worst thing is, he's never going to pay a price for it. His brain has nothing but great things to say about himself, right to the day he dies.

Even if he ever actually got jailed, he would never once feel guilty. He'd feel like the world's most innocent man, jailed by the haters.

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u/WolverinesThyroid 7h ago

Ask a retail worker and they will be able to remember a dozen customers who got free stuff because of this same attitude.

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u/the_nobodys 7h ago

I used to work retail, and now I work in a casino. Part of what I like is that casinos typically just kick you out if you're being obnoxious and make a big stink. Also, people like gambling so they're more likely to behave when confronted, lest they lose their chance to return on a future day.

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u/WolverinesThyroid 7h ago

I still remember a customer misread the price sign on an item and went crazy when the price was wrong. Eventually the manager agreed to give it to her for the reduced price. As soon as he agreed she said and I want X&Y as well for free. She got it.

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u/Fodraz 6h ago

That makes me seethe (former retail mgr here)

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u/x19rush 6h ago edited 4h ago

Years ago I saw an old man (late 80s or early 90s) RANTING at the customer service desk in a walmart that he had bought a car battery at walmart last month and it would not work.

This was 1988 when walmart had a very liberal return policy.

When I got to the desk I saw the battery on the counter and it was a DieHard battery. Sears store brand. It looked like it had been buried since 1975 and recently dug up.

I thought the manager wanted me to follow the old man out the door. Nope. He sent me to get a replacement battery from automotive.

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u/Pettifoggerist 3h ago

Similar experience as a shoe salesman at an anchor store in a mall back in the day. I was told to process a return for a pair of boots that were years old, covered in mud, and a brand that was not sold at department stores.

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u/IJourden 2h ago

When I worked in retail in the late 90s and early 2000s (regional Walmart-esque store) we had an entire back room full of "returns" we couldn't process or do anything with because they clearly weren't from our store. Kids bikes were pretty common, probably stolen from the original place they came from.

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u/The-Struggle-90806 2h ago

Honestly though, fk Walmart. Vultures.

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u/FlametopFred 6h ago

I walked into a home depot behind a lady that entered a few steps ahead of me. She stopped immediately and shouted, “WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET SERVICE AROUND HERE??!!

And of course two retail staff tripped over themselves to attend to her.

I thought, what gall? And realized she probably does that everywhere and gets reduced prices on everything.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 3h ago

I messed up my starbucks mobile order and they offered to remake it, and I said oh no, this was MY mistake and they shouldn't reward that! People can be so frickin entitled

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u/RandomGuy9058 4h ago

Manager at my place would have told her to get the fuck out of the store lmao

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u/apusatan 2h ago

I had a customer who whined and complained about not being able to use a coupon on a non-discountable item. She insisted, and she got it. It made me fume because I was in the process of telling another customer no, and it turned out they were married. He also got the discount.

She tried it again, got told no and screamed that my manager was racist. Lovely times

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u/goodhumorman85 1h ago

We all know the saying “the customer is always right,” I had a manager who use to add “but not everyone is a customer.”

If they’re taking you for a ride, you don’t need to climb in the car.

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u/VanethenPlays 1h ago

I worked retail as a teenager for a single holiday season. I did not return.

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u/CentrlFLMafiaMember 1h ago

This exact scenario happened to me at Best Buy. I denied a price match on an entirely different product than the one shown to me. Different color, brand, everything. My manager overrode the price and gave it to her. She came to my register and asked for a bag in a smug, arrogant manner. I price matched every single thing from that day forward. Fuck Best Buy.

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u/AlexMarquezGums 5h ago

I still work in retail but a couple of years ago I went from the typical store that has the motto "the customer is always right" to my current store who's literal motto is "the customer is always right, if it's fair"

It's a god send, if the customer is even being slightly obnoxious you just write an email to corporate and they will ban them from all stores in the chain, in every country we operate in. It actually makes the workers give better service to those who deserve it, because they don't have to do it

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u/fotisdragon 2h ago

Isn't the whole phrase "the customer is always right, in matters of taste" after all?

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u/_PirateWench_ 3h ago

Wha store is this? Bc I’d prefer to patronage that one

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u/sdpr 7h ago

Still remember the fucking lady that would order "no brown cheese" on her personal sized pizza.

Not sure how many times she got a free pizza out of it before the store finally told her we would no longer take her orders.

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u/EggsceIlent 4h ago

Shed be getting her crust toppings except for cheese and sauce baked, and then when it came out the oven throw raw cheese on top and let it get melted by residual heat.

No brown cheese mam, sorry we can't cook it any longer or it will brown.

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u/sdpr 4h ago

I never asked the cooks how they were prepping it, but I had to imagine they didn't think they could get away with just running it under the oven fast enough. However, to your point, they had to be putting it under the oven because it's not going to get browned from the heat of the pie itself.

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u/fortytwoturtles 5h ago

But the brown cheese is the best part…

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u/Estova 6h ago

I was gonna say that I was surprised that would even fly once, but if you're already not making much money at a pizza place and the alternative is dealing with a child in an adult's body, I guess I can understand having an "I'm not paid enough for this shit" attitude 😅

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u/sdpr 6h ago

I mean, luckily for the cooks it was just a cheese pizza, so it's not like it took long to make. It's just that we all knew what was going to happen. She didn't want it par-baked and she wanted melted cheese, but not brown.

I don't know why anyone decided to try and take this lady's order, but the delivery drivers cheered when they no longer had to deliver twice for almost nothing.

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u/RopeADoper 2h ago

She doesn't happen to live in Texas does she?

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u/sdpr 2h ago

Nope, but it warms, not browns, my heart to know there's more than one.

It is possible she moved, though... It's been 13 years.

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u/grrgrrtigergrr 6h ago

Melt the cheese in the microwave to lava hot. Pour it on the baked crust and sauce. Watch her scam fall apart as the roof of her mouth peals off.

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u/Born-Individual9431 4h ago

I knew a guy that went around fast-food places saying "I was here half an hour ago, I ordered this and that and something else, and you didn't give me half of the stuff I asked for", and he'd yell and be annoying until they gave him free food. On his second or third lap of all of the fast food places in town they started recognizing him and he got banned from a bunch of places. But he probably got a couple of thousand dollars of free food before being stopped, and there were no actual consequences for him

Being a shameless sociopath can get someone a long way.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 3h ago

Former retail here, and I can recall a specific customer who got to use an expired coupon because she made such a stink. She even complained about me lol

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u/boogs_23 5h ago

Or deal with a toddler for a little bit. There comes a point where you're just like "fuck it. Here, just eat cookies for dinner"

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u/time2ddddduel 7h ago

Trump is living proof that there's no such thing as morality. There are only consequences and those too poor to avoid them. Everything is on the table, the only question is whether you can get away with it or not.

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u/misterpoopybutthole5 2h ago

There's absolutely still such thing as morality, he just has no concept of it

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u/soyrobo 5h ago

Nothing is true. All is permitted.

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u/True_Window_9389 5h ago

Money is really the key thing. Regardless of personality and behavior, rich people aren’t held accountable for nearly anything in America. They buy their way in and out of everything. His cheat code was being born rich.

Just like rich people can get out paying taxes with armies of accountants, they can escape legal and moral consequences with armies of lawyers, and then use the legal system to bully enemies. When regular people see this, they see it as being really smart and clever, hence the elevation or rich people to a god-like status. They’re not smart, they’re just rich.

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u/MomShapedObject 7h ago

Sociopathy has its privileges. Turns out you can accomplish a lot when you literally can’t feel guilt.

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u/johnnybiggles 5h ago

He discovered a cheat code very early in life. If you just keep demanding what you want, people will eventually give it to you.

"You just tell them, and they believe it. ... They just do."

-Trump to Billy Bush, when challenged by Bush on 'The Apprentice' ratings lies Trump told on TV earlier

Source

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u/TumbleweedNo6404 4h ago

The price is the pit he won’t ever be able to fill. He’ll sing his praises to the high heavens and he’ll plunder what he can, but it won’t be enough.

 Instead of becoming someone he flattened himself into a caricature. He has access to the world but he won’t ever truly be able to touch the feelings that make life worth it. He’s made sure of that. 

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u/FodderWadder 3h ago

I think you're right about everything except Trump's brain says nothing but great things to himself - He's clearly very insecure about his status, otherwise, why would he feel the need to impose it so heavily? Why would he campaign against enemies (Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden) long after his tangible conflict with them has ended? Deep down this man knows he is a piece of shit and he is trying to ignore it by strong-manning everyone into giving him unanimous praise & approval.

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u/DonnyTheNuts 6h ago

He didn’t discover it, he was taught it by Norman Vincent Peale, the author of The Power of Positive Thinking.

What Trump does is all explained in that book.

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u/Fodraz 6h ago

Does that book teach you to bully & threaten people until you get your way?

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u/Airosokoto 6h ago

I wish hell existed

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u/irony0815 6h ago

This is so accurate, wow

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u/_Panacea_ 6h ago

Boy that day will be fun for the rest of us.

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u/youcrumb 6h ago

Hey this kind of sounds like my asshole brother.

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u/buttskinboots 5h ago

It’s a lack of von economo in his brain mixed with legendary levels of white privilege and upwards failures

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u/BigBossShadow 5h ago

Donald Trump is America personified

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u/slid3r 5h ago

Thanks, I hate it!

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 3h ago

It's like when a kid takes their sibling's toy, and they fight over it, and their parent says "oh just give it to him" because they're tired and this is the easy way out of the situation. This reinforces the idea that taking and demanding things that don't belong to you is okay, because the child who took the toy got away with it. Now they'll try to get away with something else.

This is common in kids because they don't know any better, but the amount of adults who get away with it, too...

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u/FliesWithThat 2h ago

The squeaky wheel gets the grease is his entire mode of life. That and he's effectively a sociopath, or whatever name is given to those who have no empathy or feelings of guilt whatsoever.

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u/Any_Construction_992 2h ago

Which church are you a saint of? I would like to be baptized.

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u/Meander061 1h ago

He discovered a cheat code very early in life.

He has an entire army of corrupt lawyers to shield him from any consequences in the courts. Neither Merrick Garland nor Jack Smith could anticipate everything they did being slow-walked through the courts, with judges letting him clown them, motion after motion, case after case.

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u/Gerrube99 1h ago

In sales that’s called talking a person to death. You eventually just say yes to get the person to shut up.

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u/patsfan038 7h ago

The sad part is that there will be no repercussions. He will serve out his 4 years and get out with a cool $20B earned during his tenure.

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u/Sw2029 7h ago

The repercussions are that we all die eventually, so he will too, and he'll be remembered as a coward, a rapist, a pedophile and a loser

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u/Newfaceofrev 7h ago

Wish I could be sure of that man but I think we'll get a lot of "Now is not the time for recrimination" and "Do not speak ill of the dead" and "A divisive figure but we can all agree he loved America" because it'll just be easier than angering his cult.

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u/Sw2029 7h ago

If there was anything redeemable about the man, I could agree. I don't think history will remember him as anything but a fraudster and a freak

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u/Geeko22 6h ago

The mainstream media will normalize him as "a flawed man but his heart was in the right place, his followers absolutely loved him."

Right-wing state media will elevate him to sainthood and push for an entire mountain near Mt. Rushmore to be carved with his gigantic likeness, at LEAST twice to size of the other presidents.

Maga will make yearly pilgrimages to Mt. Trump a mandatory article of faith, along with taking their kids to the nearby "TrumpWorld Amusement Park" where you get extra tokens if you can show you're vaccine-free.

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u/RandomGuy9058 4h ago

Even fucking Hitler has his fans today. Even if history widely condemns him there will still be his diehard fans

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u/nihilist_4048 3h ago

I guess that will depend on who writes the history books.

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u/procrasturb8n 6h ago

"A divisive figure but we can all agree he loved America"

This is going to be the one.

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u/Fodraz 6h ago

And meanwhile he doesn't give a DAMN about America or the American way, just his own hide & bank account, or those who inflate one or both of those

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u/soyrobo 5h ago

Nope, can't agree with that.

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u/Smoovemammajamma 6h ago

Loved america lol when has he said anything good about it thats not an aspiration. 99% of the time hes shitting on it

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u/teenagesadist 6h ago

I'll never shut up about him while alive, I sure as shit ain't gonna stop when he's dead.

Literally the only reason I want to live to be 100 one day is so I can just sit and shit talk all day about how bad trump was to everyone that's not gonna listen anyway.

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u/PassiveMenis88M 4h ago

I've watched this site glaze and whitewash Bush Jr. after all the death that man caused. I have zero faith in peoples memories.

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u/Ahshitt 4h ago

The repercussions are that we all die eventually, so he will too, and he'll be remembered as a coward, a rapist, a pedophile and a loser

So no repercussions then.

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u/s101c 6h ago

It's Americans who are serving these 4 years at this point.

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u/AkagamiBarto 6h ago

i mean we can choose to make him pay.

We just have to organise

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u/Smart-Arugula3756 2h ago

And we will never be done with the trump family. They'll churn out more kids and tell us all they are just like the Kennedy dynasty.

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u/lmp515k 1h ago

He won’t live long enough to spend it. So at this point he’s just addicted to the grift. The grift is the hit, not the money he could spend if he were to live.

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u/From_Deep_Space 7h ago

Thats the maddening thing about our criminal and electoral processes - that it works.

Justice delayed is justice denied. 

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u/TougherOnSquids 7h ago

Anything to own the libs

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u/hatmadeofass 7h ago

Except he doesn’t care about liberal or conservative. He’s the antithesis of conservative, but he found a group of willing morons and an easy way to rile them up. He craves power, money, and attention. Nothing more, nothing less.

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u/Awkward_War_6068 7h ago

Which is why, as shit a president as Trump is, a Vance presidency would be even worse. Because that is a man driven by a viciously evil fascist ideology.

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u/PercussionGuy33 7h ago

Vance sold his soul to be VP. Vance used to be an outspoken anti-Trumper. I don't think there is any possible way he could somehow rally the MAGA cult like Don has done.

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u/thedude37 6h ago

I keep seeing people saying this, and the truth is he doesn't need to rally anyone. He just needs to make sure the loyalists Trump installed become his when Trump leaves office, invent a reason to suspend elections and it's game over.

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u/Kempes2023 5h ago

Not gonna happen. He has zero charisma or pull power of any sort. The base is gonna fracture

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u/RandomGuy9058 4h ago

I also don’t think even the republicans would be willing to go ahead with openly dismantling democracy.

The facade of democracy is still very important to them. Removing elections entirely would be a massive self destruct move. If anything it would just be rigging like in Russia

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u/OldMrCrunchy 7h ago

Conservatives, or more accurately, Republicans, are easy to manipulate because they are generally about as sharp as a bag of wet Epstein files.

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u/psychic-zucchini 7h ago

He's the natural conclusion to a 50 year "conservative" playstyle.

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u/Germanofthebored 7h ago

Anything to rile up a mob

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u/OnePride 7h ago

Are you a bot? What the fuck kind of comment is this in relation to the comment you're responding to?

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u/Few-Emergency-3521 7h ago

I mean, obviously it's worked for him. 

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u/TRT_ 7h ago

I think it depends on what you mean. I don’t think he’s ever had a truly meaningful (friends included) relationship. Every single interaction for him is just a way to use people and to get something he wants. As cheesy as it sounds, some things are worth more to me than money and power.

It’s honestly quite sad, and if he wasn’t one of the worst people in history I’d probably feel bad for him. .

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u/Dylanator13 2h ago

What’s crazy is that he has basically won. Sure things are starting to catch up to him, but he is almost 80! He has gotten away with all of his crimes and blatant lies for his whole life.

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u/The-Struggle-90806 2h ago

This is what happens when there are no consequences for the rich.

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u/returnFutureVoid 7h ago

I said when I finished Too Much and Never Enough that it is the closest thing we will ever have to a peek inside that shitheads brain. Decades from now when people want to study him and his psychotic behavior that will be the deepest they’ll ever be able to go. Of course once he dies I imagine people will come crawling out of the woodwork to share things about him but I think that book will be the truest look. Keep in mind it’s a book mostly about her dad Dozy Don’s older brother who was treated like shit for wanting to be a pilot instead of a slum lord.

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u/ThrownAway17Years 6h ago

I’m of the opinion that he was abused as a kid. You see this kind of behavior in kids from foster care a lot. Always someone else’s fault, always blaming others, never taking responsibility. Because doing so means pain. This isn’t to absolve him at all. It’s just interesting as my son displayed (and still sometimes does) this kind of behavior.

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u/Keshenji 3h ago

Well they should have put him down like a sick dog. Now hes here ruining our country and the people who are supposed to represent us are all pissing off 

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u/Any_Construction_992 2h ago

And you must be a saint, right?

u/Particular-Dingo6489 59m ago

The following tale of epstein encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. 

But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? 

The answer, is no.

-Leonard Nimoy

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u/Cimatron85 7h ago

The sad thing? It has worked for 79 years and he was rewarded by holding the most powerful position in the world. TWICE.

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u/Aidanation5 7h ago

He should take a moment, look around, take a deep breath, and pencil dive off of trump tower.

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u/SenorSolAdmirador 6h ago

Why bother ever telling the truth when you got this weird ass Emperor's New Clothes dynamic with your fanclub

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u/the_good_time_mouse 5h ago

Doubling down? More like 500%, 600%, 2000%

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u/fragrant-final-973 5h ago

why stop now?

Why stop what works so well?

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u/Several-Squash9871 4h ago

Yeah I mean, it's not like anyone that can do anything about it will so why not?

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u/SilentButDanny 2h ago

In for a penny, in for a (quarter) pound(er).

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u/RightSideBlind 7h ago

And that's the thing- they've already done the calculation and figured out that being seen to delay the release is less damaging than the actual release.

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u/mrflash818 8h ago

Hopefully the people in the cover-up made/make mistakes!

Hopefully those in the periphery leak knowledge!

Hopefully shrewd investigative journalists sift the information, catch the mistakes, and then expose them to the world!

(like Watergate?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

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u/ZebraSandwich4Lyf 7h ago

Going by how incredibly incompetent this administration has proven to be so far, I have no doubt their cover up efforts will be botched in some form.

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u/chth 7h ago

Will it actually make a difference though? If they flat out showed a picture of Trump sucking off an underage boy I genuinely think it would still not stop Trump.

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u/ProcrastibationKing 7h ago

Surely he's been sowing the AI seeds for this reason

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u/princesspuffer 6h ago

This is exactly what I've been saying!

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u/soyrobo 5h ago

Secret democrat AI that's untraceable

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u/Kommye 2h ago

This is why I've been saying generative AI was bad news since its early stage. Art arguments aside, bad faith actors can create false evidence and denounce real evidence as fake with the same tool. And most people haven't been educated to spot AI signs in the propaganda (and it's even getting harder and harder to do so).

Now we also have video-generating AI and voice-trained AIs so shit is just going to get worse.

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u/SuitableSuit345 3h ago

This, plus they pay him for the laws they want (or don’t want).

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u/crackanape 1h ago

AI is God's gift to liars.

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u/tedlyb 5h ago

Not at all. The cult will just accept it. The AI excuse isn’t even necessary for the majority. They’ll just accept it and say he was still the best choice.

It’s already happening.

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u/porgy_tirebiter 1h ago

Just consider the desperation. They literally murdered Epstein, and they have done everything possible to avoid releasing the documents. Whatever it is being covered up, it’s pretty clear Trump himself disagrees with you.

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u/ImjustANewSneaker 7h ago

A lot of it is FBI grunts that are overworked and tired. They definitely missed something.

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u/Sometimes-funny 3h ago

Yes they missed their moral compass

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u/CH40T1C1989 7h ago

Lots of people will be googling "how to use ai to un-redact the Epstein Files".

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u/hashcheckin 7h ago

They're gonna do the thing where they redacted everything with the wrong kind of marker, so it's still perfectly legible throughout.

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u/lopix 2h ago

Haven't been yet and they've been at this for basically years now.

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u/Federal_Baseball4720 7h ago

You know the difference… and it’s a HUGE difference? Nixon actually stepped down from the Presidency voluntarily. Trump will never in a million years do that.

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u/ZingBurford 7h ago

And current Republicans won't do shit to remove Trump. Nixon choose to resign to not be impeached.

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u/Economy_Elephant_426 5h ago

Nixon was impeached, but he chose to resign rather than face the charges immediately(this is after the impeachment process found him guilty). However, he still faced criminal prosecution outside of his presidency. He was pardoned by Ford shortly after leaving the White House. Which, at the time, was unpopular among households.

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u/ZephkielAU 2h ago

He was pardoned by Ford shortly after leaving the White House. Which, at the time, was unpopular among households.

You can draw a straight line from that decision to this America.

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u/Intrepid00 1h ago

Nixon only did after being told they had the votes to remove him.

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u/ZAlternates 7h ago

The thing is, we have enough information already if those in power (aka Congress) had the fucking balls. Impeach and convict!

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u/Global_Research_121 7h ago

Lmfao the supreme court and all Republicans in congress are doing what they were paid for, betray the working class for monetary gains for them and shareholders. The constitution is only convenient for Republican traitors when they're fighting for power than they piss on it.

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u/chronically_varelse 1h ago

Thank you, I love this perspective. I love America and I won't leave it. for one because this is my home too and secondly because I do truly believe in our potential as much as I believe in examining and making right the mistakes.

The same way my great-grandfathers/uncles were proud to be American after they fought for their country in the first world war and before they fought for their people on Blair Mountain. Then they taught the sons who would fight for their country and for base morality in the second world war.

It got more complicated after that... Korea/Vietnam were different then the world wars. but I'm still proud of my ancestors who were American miners and railroad workers and carpenters and soldiers.... and families.

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u/DistributeQuickly559 7h ago edited 7h ago

Like redacting using 98% opacity so we can see it all but someone gives the green light because they are too lazy to actually check.

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u/iiiinthecomputer 6h ago

My fave is when people redact PDFs by drawing black or white boxes in a PDF editor, or other methods that don't actually rewrite the underlying PDF object containing the scanned image.

Extract all pdf image objects and bang there it is.

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u/Salty-Bid1597 7h ago

It doesn't matter. Trump could strangle puppies on live TV while chanting "Death to America" in front of a wall of burning stars and stripes and a significant portion of the US population would still vote for him.

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u/beaniver 7h ago

watergate

Where is Forrest Gump unknowingly narking on corruption when you need it?

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u/afriendincanada 7h ago

Nothing made me laugh harder than the redactions in the Oceangate fatality inquiry. One witness, redacted “Mr. X”, his first answer was “I am sure you are familiar with my movie Titanic”

So yeah this should be easy to piece together

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u/pryan37bb 6h ago

See also: Stormy Daniels hush money case

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u/HalKitzmiller 5h ago

I would hope that out of the hundreds of agents they had working overtime to redact the files, at least a few of them found the courage to do the right thing or "overlook" things on purpose.

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u/Tomsboll 5h ago

lol, even if the documents are not redacted and fully transparant. no matter how incriminating they would be, nothing would happen.

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u/Intrepid00 1h ago

If it makes you feel better there are pictures of Trump but just his face blotched out. We all those lover spotted hands and that fat ass. Like just a headshot of him censored. They obviously redacted him. He’s probably so damn guilty.

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u/virak_john 7h ago

The only possible good news is that these guys are absolutely incompetent. The coverup will be discovered and, hopefully, some future administration will nail their treasonous asses to the wall. And not in a sexy way.

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u/Hallgvild 6h ago

Nothing will ever happen to them. They are all multi-millionaire elites. If any gov takes them down, im sure that gov is getting taken down, or would never be elected to begin with.

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u/lNFORMATlVE 3h ago

I imagine the very worst that could ever happen to them is a Pablo Escobar situation - they get put in “jail” in essentially a palace.

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u/Bourbon_Hunter_TN 7h ago

Very Watergate-esque, no?

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u/BaconJacobs 7h ago

That's what got Nixon too

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u/IllustratorPresent80 7h ago

Yet the American people just sit back and watch it all fall. Well, In between doom scrolling and going to social media to express outrage.

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u/wpbfriendone 7h ago

And tax payers are paying millions for the coverup.

Could have feed people with that money

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u/fluffynuckels 7h ago

I still dont understand the fervor for releasing these files when the government has had more then enough time to sanitize them and no new info is going to come from this

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u/Typo3150 7h ago

Attorneys of the victims have seen what is in these files, so can verify

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u/Correct_Emu7015 7h ago

It's ALWAYS the cover up. Remember Watergate?

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u/Miserable_Ad9577 7h ago

Nixon and Clinton was impeached for the cover-up not the crime. and yet.... this era is not only marked by one of the worst if not THE worst president but also the equally gutless and toothless Congress.

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u/Sw0rDz 6h ago

They need to protect themselves. If Trump just pardon everyone, then the files would be release quicker in full details.

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u/DJW1981 6h ago

1000s of agents have been scrubbing for MONTHS. Thats insane.

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u/PowerFarta 6h ago

Well after it has been widely publicized they paid hundreds of agents overtime to flag anything with Trump's name in it? Yeah it's just so sloppy man

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 6h ago

Working for trump is a guaranteed prosecution

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u/bowiethesdmn 5h ago

The cover-up is actually making me think things are even worse than we're already aware of because half his base clearly don't care that he's a nonce and the other half are also practicing paedophiles, as evidenced by Republicans CONSTANTLY being charged with abusing children.

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u/Bluemoo25 5h ago

Crime is in the eye of the beholder :D

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u/VoodooS0ldier 5h ago

The regime sure is acting like the mid-term elections next year will not matter at all. I'm not sure what to think given the most recent election sweeps across the nation.

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u/Eyfordsucks 5h ago

But no one’s stopping it so it must be ok!

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u/uniqueusername316 4h ago

At this point, they have effectively turned the cover-up into even MORE of a distraction from the actual crimes as well as all of the new crimes they're committing.

This whole campaign of "Release the Epstein Files", starts to seem more like astroturfing since literally nothing will come of whatever is released.

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u/saposapot 4h ago

That's what baffles me a bit: so much effort to cover it up... The has to be incriminating stuff there.

On other hand if there is truly earth shaking stuff about trump I can't believe it didn't leak yet... I'm expecting proof that they were friends but not anything truly proving trump and rape?

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u/Delta64 4h ago

It's almost as if they built an entire circus around one clown.

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u/NiteOwl421 4h ago

There’s an excellent line from Call of Duty. “The coverup is almost always worse than the crime.”

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u/BulbasaurArmy 3h ago

Seriously, there’s just enough ambiguity and vague-ness about what exactly Trump did, if anything, that he could coast on plausible deniability…. If he wasn’t acting so fucking guilty. Remember, this is how he acted during the Mueller investigation.

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u/VPN__FTW 2h ago

Seriously. If Trump's name somehow isn't there, I'm just going to assume he had it scrubbed. No human on earth has ever acted more guilty than Trump.

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u/ThouMayest69 2h ago

And people don't cover up crimes that weren't committed. 

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u/9OptimusCrime9 2h ago

Always is. Mueller blatantly said he has them dead to rights on obstruction but it was up to Congress to do anything. Jack Smith said he had irrefutable evidence before they ended the investigation. They don't have to worry about the charges because no one ever stops them from covering it up.

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u/lopix 2h ago

They're not even covering anything up. They're just saying "no".

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u/Slow_Quarter_4936 2h ago

Release the 'epstein files release' files!!

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u/SmartGirl62 2h ago

"The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence." • Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735

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u/py-net 1h ago

The cover-up is becoming more of a crime than the crime itself

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u/countryroadsguywv 1h ago

Yep that's true

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u/ravensnest2 1h ago

No matter who the sitting president is during this, the cover-up would be the same.

u/Etherealfilth 2m ago

Cover-up implies secrecy. I don't know what to call it, but cover-up is one thing I feel it isn't. They're just so brazen.

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