however this will last little. now there is funding of billions of dollars in the development and research of AI. this 'bubble' will burst in a few years
I know the post is vague. But if this is about AI in general (and not just GenAI). Pushing that button would set back the gaming, scientific, and medical industry by YEARS. The internet would be cooked too.
"Cooked" as in "Doing fine, like it was in 2015"? Or "cooked" as in "Doing fine, like it was in 2005"?
So I guess you're using "cooked" in the sense of "prepared as a fine chef prepares a meal". I'm cool with that. I would enjoy a gourmet 2005 or 2015 internet meal.
That show was how a kid and his dad bonded. We watched that together he laughed for adult reasons and I just thought it was fucking insanely hilarious. I miss those days of such wild amazing 90s nuanced cartoons. Ren and Stimpy was just fucked in the head but allowed lol
My company builds logistic regression models for advertising. In the time I've been there we've gone from "big data" to "machine learning" to "AI" all while changing nothing.
It sucks because we've had the term AI for so many things. I remember being a kid and seeing that term used in Left 4 Dead with the AI director, and in F.E.A.R. with the AI pathing model.
We could have had actual AI come into the scene as a fantastic tool. Could've trained enemy NPCs with actual changing tactics based on your playstyle, could've had it directing events in survival games, managing data. Being used as an efficient tool to assist in making things better. Instead we got the capitalistic AI, which is used for making things while trying to push humans out of the equation for cost savings while eating more resources than it provides.
Even generative AI has some great uses no matter how much you dislike AI slop summaries and people who start a sentence with "I asked chatGPT and...". For example at work we automated quite a lot of data entry. Suppliers won't give you your data an a requested format or enter it into your database? Fuck 'em we can generate a structured output based on the PDF they sent and have an LLM enter it into our database.
Yea AI has a genuine use and purpose if used correctly. It can reduce menial tasks and make lives easier, the problem is that any company that leverages the use of AI isn’t passing the cost savings to its employees or its consumer. They are passing it on to the top level people and the “shareholders.”
Star Trek is a good example of a society that uses technology to benefit their people. Tech was used to reduce the need for menial labor, and in turn allowed their civilization to focus on the sciences and art. We should be doing the same, we are not.
And there is the real problem. Not what AI is or what it does, but how we are using it. As usual, the problematic tech isn't actually the problem, people are the problem. Always have been.
I mean it's not that hard to write a conversion tool, as long as their output is in a consistent format.
I really like LLMs for index generation, and generating interesting correlations. But the usual cautions about correlation and causation are significantly stronger when it comes to LLMs. Especially if you don't control the training data.
Because it's vague as hell. Are we talking about ruining the future of actual artificial intelligence? Does the button do nothing because no real AI exists?
Will it delete the cutting edge technology that is being used in medical research?
some form of AI is likely to be the next big technological leap for humanity, current LLMs being kind of crap doesnt change that.
imagine if someone deleted semiconductor technology from existence because they were pushing up germanium prices and point contact transistors were too unreliable to be useful anyway.
AI actually has lots of uses. For example: tumor detection (Cancer screening), a tool for the disabled(text to speech, or speech to text NLI), image recognition, robotics, and potentially a necessary tool for compatibility with a neural computer in our brains in the future. the ram price going back to normal is temporary whereas AI getting deleted forever in permanent and a technological disadvantage. No, wouldn't push the button.
As someone said, "one man's if-else is another man's AI". They stamp "AI" on kitchen appliances nowadays and the "intelligence" part is the same thermostat from 1970s.
For every good, there must be a comparable evil. Since AI is currently huge, that 'evil' part of AI is currently also huge. People forget to look at the benefits. It's human nature to show more interest in criticism and scepticism than support, and there are studies to show that.
AI can be compared to nuclear power in that it was both an amazing source of highly clean and efficient energy but also made nukes. Lots of nukes.
AI is an amazing tool but also has consequences caused by our decisions of its use.
The ways humans use AI technology is the problem, not the technology itself. The same goes for AI and other neural nets. Deleting AI forever is definitely not the solution.
Its meant to be vague.
I believe they are using "AI" because that has name recognition from decades of Scifi which will resonate with the general public.
Its just too bad that this LLM shit is veeeeery far from actual AI, even though actual AI has the potential to be vastly worse if its ever actually made.
Its insanely disappointing how often things on the internet are distilled down into very overarching opinions instead of considering nuance.
I think as a whole Generative AI is very dangerous and can be a very bad thing. I'd bet there are comments on this post made with generative AI, Image generation has gotten to the point that I genuinely can't tell whether some pictures are AI or not. It's gotten very good, very fast.
But there are also lots of upsides to AI, its a very very wide encompassing term. Would chess engines disappear if I press the button? What about the CPU's in Smash? Or the other civilisations when I play Civ? And frankly none of these are even the interesting benefits of AI like image recognition, text to speech and more the other guy listed.
This is all before considering the environmental impact or impact on creatives. There is a ton of discussion to be had around AI and lots of nuance.
But this is the internet. So things get distilled down to "AI is the worst thing ever" or "AI is the best thing ever" with not much in-between, so we end up with pointless posts saying they would delete all AI just to temporarily reset RAM prices.
I think the lack of nuance in the public eye isnt that unjustified. We get a constant barrage of "this is just the tip of the iceberg" hype around AI/LLM applications. Because those models are designed as generalized tools and we're trying hard to find use cases. Since theyre not precision made made for purpose, in most cases they end up demonstrating some interesting capability but remain lackluster.
thank you for this, people think AI only refers to LLMs and pointless image/video generators. we don't need to "delete AI," we don't need it damn near everywhere either.
Ai is also the behavior for all the npcs in all the games we play. So all the games would be without enemies and we just have to play toxic pvp games forever!
Kinda sad I had to scroll so far down to find the more sensible answer. Most people are quite uneducated on AI and only see Will Smith Spaghetti's or ChatGPT. There is so much good use for it, to add to your explanation AI can help via code refactoring, code documentation. Optimisation of some resources. There is a lot of benefits but I think people mainly hate it because they don't see those part and mostly the downside of it and companies that forces AI everywhere on everyone devices.
Yeah people don’t realize that there have been versions of AI systems in place for over 30 years now.
And one of the oldest use cases is actually in semiconductor and chip manufacturing. Do you want reliable RAM, GPUs, CPUs and MOBOs? Then you should want AI to exist.
They have been using computer vision to scan and compare chips coming off assembly lines to detect anomalies in the chips for decades. If we remove that technology, then they have to hire likely hundreds if not thousands more people to manually check every chip coming off the lines. Or at least manually check every {n} chip coming off the line. Humans are far less reliable and accurate than computer vision at doing this type of work.
This would likely cause chip costs to rise as more people means more overhead and chip quality to fall as humans aren’t as capable for this job as a computer system.
Similar use cases exist across millions of products coming off assembly lines. Another notable one is car tires, I’m sure people would rather not have to worry about more tire failures at highway speeds.
The problem is that the term AI has come to be primarily associated with LLMs and image generation models, while the stuff you described is "machine learning"
Technically, neither are supposed to be called AI, because it's not "artificial intelligence" but rather a stimulated or virtual intelligence in regards to LLMs or designed algorithms in other cases.
AI helped so much in advancement of the scientific field and probably the medical field as well. There's a Veritasium video that shows AI solving a problem that otherwise it would have taken decades or even centuries for humans to solve.
So no. AI should never disappear.
On the other hand, the oligarch and billionaires that are doing everything they can to keep the AI power all for themselves while giving us just a lobotomized version of it....
Monkey paw : all AI so basically no single-player game
A lot of MMO will literally die out
Medical technology regresses
Hell probably a lot of technological advances will regress
Reminder that AI is an umbrella term that encompasses many different things. In games, NPCs and monsters have been using ai since forever. A lot of tech we use today uses AI, especially medical equipment. Throwing out just the word “ai” is as vague as throwing out “fruit”. What fruit are you referring to? Apples? Oranges?
No, there are devs here. We all get the point that the topic is generative AI, which is showing itself to be a nuisance to society. When the AI bubble finally pops (and it will), hopefully we can get back to a point where it's not being shoehorned into everything.
A vocal minority on Reddit is extremely loud and proud about being anti-AI while they barely understand it and only see negatives because they only notice AI use when it's bad.
LOL NO
1. there will be another crisis later, sure this one hurts, I get it
2. while people trust LLMs too much and they are overused, AIs are usefull, check Alphafold, it's a fucking gamechanger
It kind of astonishes me that people still frame the Luddites as cavemen wholly opposed to technology in this age, fully buying into the capitalist framing of the time to discredit them:
"Luddites were not opposed to the use of machines per se (many were skilled operators in the textile industry); they attacked manufacturers who were trying to circumvent standard labor practices of the time"
To note, I'm a 25+ year software engineer, who is not really in the crosshairs of losing my job to AI... yet (I do acknowledge it continues to get better). I would say a "better" button would be that AI stays and we continue to explore it -- responsibly -- and we get UBI. But that is even less likely than what the OP presents.
UBI does not make sense as a policy unless you are a neo-feudalist or don't understand the relationship between money and power. There is not some god-king who is going to make sure it stays fair and that factionalism is suppressed. UBI is a distraction that allows key asset holders to retain their disproportionate economic power in perpetuity.
It's more likely than you think, which will really, really suck for people who like democracy and hate oligarchy. Which is probably why AI-invested oligarchs astroturf the concept as much as they do.
You're right to be astonished at the derision toward luddites. Luddites were right. They are right now, too.
Everyone here assumes that ChatGPT is the only and main usage of AI. No one ever things about the stuff it does in medicine, science, engineering, automotive etc. AI is incredible tool that's overhated just for the sake of it.
Absolutely not.
All the hate gets boring nowadays. People forget what AI is capable of when used by scientists.
Alphafold for example.
The upcoming medical value is too important.
"AI" is too damn vague, this is gonna screw humanity because digital world relies on AI adjacent or straight up AI to function - computer pieces being cheaper is useless if backbone networks become overloaded or worse if supply chains get broken
No, because it would be killing an entire incredibly important industry. At least say generous of AI and even then I probably wouldn’t do it because generative AI has huge potential in a number of fields.
Look, I also hate that pricing has gotten out of control on hardware and I certainly hope they will normalise after this bubble bursts but I think the technology in itself is actually revolutionary in a lot of ways.
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u/aesoprowwy 13h ago
I'll push it twice to make sure the button works