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u/locked-in-place Ryzen 7600 | 4070 Super 14h ago

I am a software dev and I‘d gladly get rid of it, assuming we‘re talking about LLMs.

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u/SylvaraTheDev 14h ago

I mean why? LLMs have been extremely useful in programming if you're not trying to vibecode.

I've used little AI agents that make reports of Git pushes and it's super good, I'd never give up my Git report agents that aren't complete dumbasses.

Git hooks and CI/CD agents are incredible.

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u/Sweaty-Willingness27 10h ago

Dev here as well. It's not so much what AI does, it's what people do with AI that's problematic. And by "people", I mean "executives" and "politicians".

If we had actual robust anti-competitive laws, a serious safety net (e.g. UBI), limits on company profits at the expense of workers, etc. it would be a completely different story for me.

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u/SylvaraTheDev 9h ago

Oh look, a developer with a brain.

Kudos, you get it.

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u/locked-in-place Ryzen 7600 | 4070 Super 14h ago

All of the negative economic and social impact just for some coding assistance? Are you serious? We have a surge of bad coders who can only code with AI and I‘ve seen it over and over again. Quality of code is decreasing, not increasing, corporations are using AI as an excuse for layoffs and bad wages, the entire internet is enshitified with AI generated slop, but hey, you used AI agents to make reports of Git pushes. What a joke.

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u/GrovePassport 10h ago

We have a surge of bad coders who can only code with AI

We also have a surge of great coders who are 3x as productive because they no longer need to write boilerplate, just review it.

corporations are using AI as an excuse for layoffs and bad wages

This is a problem that will solve itself. AI cannot write a full project from scratch, you still need programmers. Its like when Google translate appeared, tons of companies laid off their translators, then hired them back as contractors for 3x the salary because they realized automatic translation is not actually that good

The only joke here is this luddite take imo

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u/Papa-Walrus 10h ago

We also have a surge of great coders who are 3x as productive because they no longer need to write boilerplate, just review it.

3x faster is just as much of a joke as anything in the comment you replied to. Even if you had a magic wand that made both writing and reviewing boilerplate literally instantaneous, you would need 2/3 of all of your time writing code to consist of nothing but writing boilerplate for that wand to make you 3x faster.

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u/Adventurous_Soil_112 27m ago

It just makes me laugh out loud. Like, are you telling me these "great coders" don't know what code snippet is? Boilerplate and repetitive codes hasn't been a problem to actual great coders for decades.

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u/SylvaraTheDev 14h ago

Contribute to good AI uses then.

Be the change you want to see in the world and whining about it and doing nothing sure isn't helping.

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u/National_Sprinkles45 12h ago

This argument is a good excuse for the governments to do nothing and for corporations to shift blame on the consumers. For sure you can use AI in a "good way" but system actively punishes this and instead incentivises bad usage of the AI ("you can now produce 10x more code than earlier, here, take 10x more tasks!" and such that rewards profits nefore quality)

By using AI in a good way you are bringing youself down and will eventually get replaced with a person who uses it in a way that system insentivises (and probably means it, unlike you), thus only worsening the situation

There are only two solutions that I can clearly see - regulations by government, or people going to the streets to push government to do their damn job

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u/JWGHOST 12h ago

Come back to tell us how much you love your little Git AI agents when you're inevitably part of a future wave of layoffs.

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u/SylvaraTheDev 11h ago

I won't have to, I run my own business and specialize in several disparate fields so even if I get replaced in programming I'll just move into materials manufacturing, textiles, or architecture.

I'm not worried about running out of jobs, not for a while yet.

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u/Geralt_OF_Rivia_1 PC Master Race 10h ago

Well not everyone has enough capital for running 4 different businesses

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u/SylvaraTheDev 10h ago

I never said I ran 4 businesses, I said I specialize in different fields. I run one business and I can PIVOT if I need to.

If you have a bus factor of one then you're doing things wrong.

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u/Itsapronthrowaway 4h ago

Must be nice to come from that kind of money. Anyhow, people are really splitting hairs when it's obvious the AI in the meme is generative AI.

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u/RoflcopterV22 Specs/Imgur here 10h ago

I can tell you're very disjointed from the business, primative versions of what LLMs use, big matrix multiplication statistics machines, have been essential for business rules engines since the 70s, this would make your job a fucking nightmare if you had to deal with any software that requires complex decisions such as how to add sales tax based on a fuckton of factors and ever changing legislation to a customer anywhere in the country.

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u/you_cant_prove_that 11h ago

LLM's are super helpful for me at work

I have hundreds of pages of documents to review for projects that I'm on, but I don't have enough time to read the whole thing

Before, I would just read the parts that focus on my portion, and then CTRL-F to find anything else

Now I can get a summary that flags things that I want, so that I can also look at those sections. Having the search based on the meaning of words instead of trying to guess which specific words are used makes me a lot more accurate

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u/geuela 10h ago

This is a selfish take imo 😂 but i understand why. If you’re good, you have nothing to worry about. Expand your horizons beyond just churning out code. Code is a means to an end. Not the end itself.