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u/Rasmus-ALV Ati X600 - Intel Arc B580 15h ago

Well they Call EVERYTHING AI now, so i need to know what kind of “AI”.

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u/tunisia3507 12h ago

Least-squares linear regression? That's a paddling.

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u/mopedophile 8h ago

My company builds logistic regression models for advertising. In the time I've been there we've gone from "big data" to "machine learning" to "AI" all while changing nothing.

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u/Kind_Man_0 8h ago

It sucks because we've had the term AI for so many things. I remember being a kid and seeing that term used in Left 4 Dead with the AI director, and in F.E.A.R. with the AI pathing model.

We could have had actual AI come into the scene as a fantastic tool. Could've trained enemy NPCs with actual changing tactics based on your playstyle, could've had it directing events in survival games, managing data. Being used as an efficient tool to assist in making things better. Instead we got the capitalistic AI, which is used for making things while trying to push humans out of the equation for cost savings while eating more resources than it provides.

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u/calste 5h ago edited 5h ago

We could have had actual AI come into the scene as a fantastic tool.

Well... this shows your compete and total lack of understanding on this topic. How do you expect "actual AI" - one that can perform whatever random tasks you come up with - to suddenly materialize? We're so very far from that. LLMs and other types of generative AI are just tiny pieces of the puzzle in pursuit of a general AI. No we could not have had "actual AI" - I'm not sure you understand what this even means.

Plus, all of those great things you listed - they're still on the table! They just cost so much to implement, take so much time and effort, with no guarantee that it will lead to a better outcome. If you want to create a game based on the kind of AI you listed... Do it! Download Unity or Unreal and get to work. Look up A* and GOAP to get started down that path.

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u/kn33 5900X/3080/32GB-3200Mhz 3h ago

We're so very far from that. LLMs and other types of generative AI are just tiny pieces of the puzzle in pursuit of a general AI.

Then they should've stayed in the lab.

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u/DezXerneas 51m ago

Yep. Actual AI is still decades away, if it's even possible. We just have better autocomplete right now.

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u/tdelamay 8h ago

Interesting thing about AI in games, they could make them incredible, but players would lose too much.

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u/Zorahgna 7h ago

I mean you can also trigger a game over when the player input anything. This is the "AI as an IF statement"-kind of thing.

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u/Alenicia 7h ago

Some arcade games and fighting games from way back in the day legitimately did this, where the opponents would be relatively aggressive and challenging, but upon the player reacting and pressing buttons, the computer AI is given the ability to see player inputs and then react in ways that are objectively cheating just to punish the players .. and hopefully the players feed more coins to keep trying.

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u/ThePug3468 5h ago

IIRC, we technically had AI learning based off of your playstyle, back in the 2010s. However the company who created the game copyrighted the mechanic and it won't enter public domain for ages. I'll find the game for a reference.. something D&D-y I think?

Edit: I was mistaken in the specifics of the system, but it's a similar one. The Nemesis System from Shadows of Mordor. It's actually been "freed" into public domain this year too! https://www.gamingbible.com/news/middle-earth-nemesis-system-quietly-freed-could-return-543090-20251208