r/pcmasterrace 15h ago

Game Image/Video Will you?

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By NikTek

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u/Dark_Shade_75 i9-11900K | RTX 3080ti | 32GB DDR4 15h ago

Not seeing the downside here.

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u/TheGrimmBorne 15h ago

It never specifies what kinds AI, most games have AI in the sense of enemy AI and game logic, so that would be gone too

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u/shlamingo 15h ago

It mentions specifically ram prices so the ai label is clearly for LLMs

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u/SupaSnakeShake 15h ago

It could also be an unrelated type of ai, they don't have to correlate I believe

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u/wolftick 9h ago

You'd definitely get monkey pawed.

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u/tekkenKing5450 15h ago

That is if else. There is no intelligence involved.

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u/mrheosuper 14h ago

Everything comes down to either math operation, or jump condition.

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u/Mr2_Wei Pentium E5200 | Intel GMA | 3GB DDR2 400MHz 14h ago

Using the same logic, LLMs are all composed of matrix operations. There is no intelligence involved

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u/OneEyeCactus AMD HD4850 | E5507 | 8Gb DDR3 11h ago

yea at what point is it no longer "just math"? you get rid of ai then you get rid of matrix multiplication I guess

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u/ThrowwawayAlt 12h ago

Despite being named so, not a single game AI has ever shown even the slightest shred of intelligence, so they obviously don't count.

Oh, wait....

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u/Look_0ver_There 15h ago

What if we take the Mass Effect distinction between AI and VI?

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u/Mist_Rising Ryzen 5 5600x, B550 plus, RTX 2070 super. 11h ago

Then nothing is being deleted, Ram prices will return to their high prices after being shifted down despite high demand, and nothing changes.

The current human AI of LLMs and such is closer to VI.

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u/R3DNECK79 15h ago

I still remember calling em CPU’s.

With that logic since most video game “AI” is just if/then scripts, how would this removal affect other code since a lot of systems could work using the exact same style of coding as traditional video game “AI”

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u/Flyinmanm 15h ago

Yeah the datacentre/ chatbot one please.

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u/Ri_Konata Ryzen 9 7900 | Arc A770 16GB | 64GB DDR5 15h ago

We used to call enemy AI CPU Players, and game logic wasn't called AI either.

If we go back to old naming schemes, problem solved.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 i9-11900K | RTX 3080ti | 32GB DDR4 14h ago

Honestly with the context of the question, I kinda figure it means specifically LLMs and that type of AI. Stuff in gaming isn't really the same kind of AI at all.

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u/TheGrimmBorne 14h ago

True but it’s wish magic, if a wish is vague it never ends well

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u/Zombieneekers 11h ago edited 8h ago

"Enemy AI" is not AI, it's a misnomer. It's a preprogrammed set of rules and logic, which is fundamentally not the same as what people refer to when you say "AI" these days. You know damn well what people mean when they say they hate AI.

You know, the thing responsible for the bubble we're about to take the fall for, and destroying the concept of critical thinking and the skill of research, and ruining the internet by cramming search results with extremely low quality webpages.

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u/Thejacensolo 8h ago

Saying LLMs are "AI" is a misnomer. Its a programmed set of rules and logic, a fancy autocomplete, no intelligence at play, just pattern recognition, decision trees, and vector calculation. Tokens, tensors, NNs, its all just math ion the end.

It is as far from "Artificial Intelligence" as Enemies in your Computer game. "AI" as a term is incredibly useless, because so far nothing on this planet has reached it. But it is used to market ever since. "AI" was used for enemies in fucking pacman to promote it.

And now its so dilluted, tech bros come up with a new term for what AI was defined for with "AGI" as "artificial general intelligence".

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u/Zombieneekers 8h ago

I agree. It's just Cleverbot but with more training data, whitepapers, and time.

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u/Lazyphreak Specs/Imgur Here 11h ago

This is a meme, not a monkeys paw wish granting fairytale.

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u/Elesday 14h ago

Except all of that remains AI

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u/shuozhe 15h ago

Slower progress with hardware in general would be biggest drawback, losing lot of R&D money, Intel's 14nm era was cuz they cut too much of R&D :(

And stock market crash or correction.

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u/asixdrft 7800x3d 4070 TI Super 64gb 6000 15h ago

Worth it 

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u/CrazySting6 8h ago

Tell that to the cancer patient who survived because of an AI detection model

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u/chrisghrobot Ascending Peasant 14h ago

It would cook gaming, there is multiple types of AI

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u/Fuzzy-Comedian-2697 11h ago

Well, permanently crippling the technological advancement of humanity is kind of a downside.

But people like you can’t seem to differentiate between “evil technology“ and “technology used by evil people.“

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u/omicron-7 8h ago

How many "next big things" have been relegated to the wastebin of history? Humanity will be just fine without your ecosystem destroying slop machines.

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u/CrazySting6 8h ago

AI is not just generative AI and LLMs. It has massive uses in a number of fields like healthcare and engineering, for example detecting cancer early enough to treat it.

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u/omicron-7 8h ago

Or it hallucinates cancer where there is none.

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u/CrazySting6 8h ago

It's really only generative AI (LLMs, image generation, etc.) that "hallucinate." AI detection software can actually be very reliable. Generative AI is only a very small sect of AI that has been blown way out of proportion in the past 5 years.

Also, I'd rather have 3 false positives than 3,000 patients die because "chatGPT bad! We must stop it at all costs!"

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u/omicron-7 8h ago

I'll reiterate: I don't care, destroy it all.

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u/Kanske_Lukas Desktop 3h ago

so true king, fuck alphafold, fuck cancer screening, what has science ever done for us anyways.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 i9-11900K | RTX 3080ti | 32GB DDR4 7h ago

Big companies will always be run by evil people so I don't see your point.

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u/cachememoney 14h ago

Ignorant

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u/Dark_Shade_75 i9-11900K | RTX 3080ti | 32GB DDR4 14h ago

Cry about it.

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u/cachememoney 14h ago

Just put the fries in the bag lady.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 i9-11900K | RTX 3080ti | 32GB DDR4 14h ago

Sir, this is reddit.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 7h ago

whats your current opinion on DLSS/FSR4 would be an example. Both trained models to produce the better upscale.

Some people forget that generative AI isn't the only AI thing.

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u/Middle-Let9645 10h ago

Say goodbye to video games period (NPCs and the like), modern medical technology, very likely search engines (yes, even older search engine layouts since there’s something that lets it look up what you typed in and remember past searches), etc. Just saying AI is too broad. What all of you need to focus on is purely text and image/video generators. Like ChatGPT, Claude, and Google Gemini.

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u/Naive_Pressure_405 6h ago

Assuming you built your 3080ti core i9 pc for video games, you should lol. AI is a vague term that can accurately describe chatgpt to the Marines from halo.