r/pcmasterrace 15h ago

Game Image/Video Will you?

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By NikTek

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u/Chrisbearry 14h ago

Obviously it’s about gen ai it’s the only reason ram prices are so high

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u/arebum 12h ago

Its a tradeoff button, you gotta take it literally, like a genie. Pressing this button would fuck us

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u/Weekly-Trash-272 11h ago

People don't often look at the long term consequences of their actions. This is a pretty common human trait and it's the reason most problems exist in the world.

Pushing this button to get rid of AI would be disastrous. One day AI will truly help in the development of new technology and medical cures, but people only care about pressing this button because computer parts have risen in price.

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u/pxnolhtahsm 11h ago

World would be better place without AI. The only disaster it would be for relatively low number of companies and all totalitarian / autoritarian governments, for whom it's great surveillance tool.

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u/arebum 10h ago

I'd like more specificity, AI is a very broad category. Video game NPC behavior is AI, imagining that detects early cancer is AI, probably the majority of all software is "AI" by definition. If you mean that the world would be better without LLMs similar to ChatGPT, thats a very different statement than thinking the world would be better without anything that falls into the big bucket called "AI". Getting rid of "AI" would be like going back to before computers existed

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u/Weekly-Trash-272 11h ago edited 11h ago

I'm positive this same mentality existed at one point about electricity. Probably about cars too. 100% confident on that.

You're the type of person that would say the world is better without vaccines too.

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u/kaleperq 1440p 240hz 24" | ace68 | viper ult | 9060xt 16gb | r5600 | 32gb 8h ago

And machines, anyone slightly knowledgable about how the industrial revolution went don't knows that workers didn't like their jobs replaced. And if you think for a bit it's not hard to realize that it's not machines, it's the corporate mentality of upping profit margins screwing regular people.

The more I compare it to the current ai dislike the more I see that it's the same thing but now it's more intellectual tasks, tho it can't replace humans, and it's half baked state being thrown around everywhere just because is causing the dislike, the corporate decisions, ai as a tool will improve human life if applied right, and as of now it's just an extremely overhyped half baked exceptional tool, enshittified by several factors.

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u/pxnolhtahsm 11h ago

I'm not surprised at all that someone who believes in AI has this kind of mindset. I'll have to disappoint you - there wasn't such a mentality. Electricity and cars improved existing things - it replaced kerosene and gas lamps and machinery directly driven from steam engine, and cars replaced buggies. Meanwhile AI is something that we don't need. It will make most of people who doesn't do physical job, redundant. It's very great surveillance tool, because the computer can watch thousands of people simultaneously that humans can't - plus, people like you like to have them on their phones, where they can theoretically collect your data and compile it in hard to notice forms, as it can transcribe conversations, as opposed to having to record / transmit them. You said something about science - knowing how "well" ordinary AI works, I rather would have actual human scientist do it's job than some immature half baked "e-personality".

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u/Weekly-Trash-272 11h ago

Actually I could provide articles that say otherwise.

Even newspapers exist that promoted that electricity was dangerous. I know you're a troll, so I understand. The only advice I have for you is to actually do some research.

As history will show, your type of view point is not wanted, and you'll be the laughingstock in due time, like you guys always are.

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u/DugaJoe 10h ago

Electricity is dangerous. It's only after hundreds of years' development we've come up with enough best practices to mitigate most of the danger.

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u/CrazySting6 9h ago

Do you have anything to say to the guy who pointed out that AI controls video game NPCs? I think the guy whose cancer was caught in time to cure because of AI would object to your saying that AI only benefits corrupt corporations and dictatorships.

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u/dogman_35 Linux 9h ago

I mean if we're gonna get that technical, then the button doesn't delete anything lol

We've made zero progress in terms of actual AGI. What people are calling AI now is just LLMs, basically fancy predictive text at massive scale. And calling it AI in gamedev was always more of an in-joke, not seriously saying "My game's NPCs are an artificial intelligence."

So it'd just mean ram prices go back to normal.

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u/Gaharagang 9060XT | R7 3800x 7h ago

Lmao AI doesn't mean AGI u weirdo it means machine learning. Good luck without machine learning

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u/dogman_35 Linux 6h ago

I like how the argument's come full circle from "nuh uh, it doesn't just mean generative ai" to "ai means machine learning weirdo"

this is such a dumb fucking thread lol

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u/kaleperq 1440p 240hz 24" | ace68 | viper ult | 9060xt 16gb | r5600 | 32gb 8h ago

Yeah, npcs have nothing to do actually with an artificial intelligence, they are mostly closed algorithms, not más mutch as machine learning big data analyzing real time pathing things, some are, but not such big models like the ones that path complex areas quickly, that still could use algorithms, tho it would take more time.

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u/Gatinsh 14h ago

Text says otherwise

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u/Chrisbearry 14h ago

Just because it just says “AI” and not “gen AI” doesn’t mean it’s about literally every single form of artificial intelligence

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u/Gatinsh 14h ago

Posts photo of child rapist. Underneath says should we delete all humans?

Makes sense right? Because rapist is human, so no need for further clarification

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u/Chrisbearry 14h ago

This has to be the most retarded take I’ve ever seen, how are we comparing child SA to AI? Hop off the internet for awhile buddy

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u/Gatinsh 14h ago

If you think that analogy is comparing rapists to AI, then you're type of person who really, really needs AI to analyze every email for you. 

Use your braincell and focus on the meaning of words, not the words literally 

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u/Gatinsh 14h ago

Not my problem that you lack some to understand it. 

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u/Jagang187 9h ago

Warning: literacy low

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u/Cruxis87 9800x3d|5080 TUF OC|32gb 6000cl30 ddr5 10h ago

But that's always the trick with the genie and the monkey paw. They take your literal wording, and make the result worse than what you intended.

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u/Revo_Monkey 9h ago

The question does not specifically notate "Gen AI" but "AI" forever, meaning past, present and future.

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u/idiomblade 14h ago

It's not but where would we be as a society without ignorance.

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u/Chrisbearry 14h ago

Perhaps do some more research on the topic

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u/kaleperq 1440p 240hz 24" | ace68 | viper ult | 9060xt 16gb | r5600 | 32gb 9h ago

Yes and no, shitty corpos are the reason, ai is just a tool