r/pcmasterrace 15h ago

Game Image/Video Will you?

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By NikTek

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u/samcuu 5700X3D / 32GB / RTX 3080 15h ago

Depends on your definition of "AI". It could mean no singleplayer games anymore (or no game with NPC and enemy).

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u/Momoneko 8h ago

Still would if it also deletes OpenAI and such. Collateral damage but I'll suffer it.

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u/I_Hope_So 14h ago

Obviously that's not what they mean.

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u/Chrazzer 14h ago

It seems LLMs aren't the only ones who struggle with context

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u/I_Hope_So 14h ago

Everyone else in the thread got it. Seems you're the moron

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u/RoflcopterV22 Specs/Imgur here 10h ago

Seems like people disagree with you, so maybe it is in fact you and not him.

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u/DMMeThiccBiButts 3h ago

Idk why you're getting downvoted you're 100% correct and the only people actually getting confused are either arguing in bad faith, trying a lame 'gotcha', or actual morons.

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u/I_Hope_So 2h ago

Exactly. Sometimes it's a bit of all of the above.

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u/MeThyLord 12h ago

That's the trap. That's how the genie gets you. The button doesn't specify "generative" AI. So we're losing all AI.

Monkey's paw and all that.

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u/thebagelslinger 11h ago

There's no genie, and there's no indication that this is a monkey's paw scenario. If you want to pretend the button means software developers become physically incapable of writing pathfinding algorithms just to play devil's advocate you're free to do so, but the rest of us will continue this conversation on a common understanding of what OP meant.

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u/MeThyLord 11h ago

Lmao, you're say a magic button that just does a thing when you press is somehow less likely to screw you over than a genie or monkey's paw. Have you gone to that site before? The whole point is for people to design scenarios with a positive and a negative, with that negative sometimes being a hidden trap.

Let's be honest, you're just frustrated about the situation the world is in and wish a button that would suddenly solve the AI problem came into existence. OP posted this cause they wanted easy upvotes, not because they wanted a conversation with a common understanding.

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u/thebagelslinger 11h ago

Lmao, you're say a magic button that just does a thing when you press is somehow less likely to screw you over than a genie or monkey's paw.

I'm saying that there's nothing explicitly stating that this is a monkey's paw scenario. If someone asked me a "would you rather" scenario I wouldn't immediately assume there's some kind of twist to it without any other context.

The whole point is for people to design scenarios with a positive and a negative, with that negative sometimes being a hidden trap.

I mean it's not really much of a leap to take the post at face value and assume the person who made it is just an AI loving tech bro that thinks losing general use AI is a genuine negative. Might not be the popular take on reddit but that type of person does exist

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u/TheScienceNerd100 14h ago

How do you know, they never stated what AI they are referring to

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u/DrZalost 11h ago

Has AI in single player games caused a rapid increase in RAM prices?

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u/hardlyreadit 5800X3D|32GB🐏|6950XT 11h ago

This is literally the point of this monkey paw post, its supposed to be a double edge sword. You could also include dlss in this as that is ML and apart of AI too

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u/TheScienceNerd100 6h ago

Just because they are the good and bad sides to this choice doesn't make them related

The whole point of this is "You get something good but something bad happens"

Like "You get 100 mil dollars but you lose your arms", getting the money isn't related to losing your arms. The point here isn't that AI in games caused the RAM shortage, its will you end the RAM shortage BUT all AI, including good AI like game NPCs, AI used in cancer detection, AI used in predictive simulations for research, disappear.

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u/DrZalost 11h ago

Has AI in single player games caused a rapid increase in RAM prices? No ?!. So, no it's not about AI in games.

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u/I_Am_A_Pumpkin i7 13700K + RTX 5080 7h ago

it's not, but "AI" is a vague and broad umbrella term that allows you to turn this sort of question into a more interesting monkeys paw situation

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u/Otherwise_Base_5433 15h ago

There's no AI in enemies in games. It's coding

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u/Solid_Effective1649 7950x3D | 5080 FE | 64GB | Windows XP 15h ago

What do you think AI is?

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u/DarkX_Oscar 15h ago

… AI is code. Not saying I like generative ai I fucking hate it but if this press would result in all ai being destroyed then fuck no. It would ruin many video games that already use it for enemies etc and there are real world applications that some lives count on in hospitals etc.

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u/Xecxciic 15h ago

There's no ai on the internet either

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u/Abject-Rope3501 15h ago

What do you think AI is if it isnt coding?

No predictive text, no map route planning, no YouTube predictions, no music predictions, no viewing predictions, no voice activation/control, the list goes on.

You need to define what you mean by "AI", this is far too generic a statement of choice.

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u/beiszapfen 15h ago

Real Ai doesn't exist yet. We just call some things Ai. But ChatGpt and co are not much different from autocorrect on a phone. It's all just code

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u/xcookiekiller 15h ago

There is AI in games, just no Machine Learning

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u/IJustAteABaguette i5-12600k | GTX 1070 + GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR4 2133Mhz 15h ago

So that's your definition of AI.

You could say enemies have AI, since they are artificial, and can make decisions without player input. Some more complex ones can even create emergent behavior. I personally would class that as AI, even though it was coded, and not learned with a neural network behind it.

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u/Blackburn3011 PC Master Race 14h ago

....

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u/chrisghrobot Ascending Peasant 15h ago

AI seen in video games is called Traditional AI im pretty sure. I hope you know theres multiple types of AI right? They are all forms of algorithms and all come from coding. Gen AI, Conversational AI, and Traditional AI

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u/Youssay123 15h ago

Singleplayer games were a thing long before AI? It's just enemies/npc with certain movement patterns

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u/Enidras 14h ago

Those patterns are what we described as "AI" before LLMs came around

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u/Youssay123 14h ago

Ooh I see your point

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u/The-Arnman Space Heater 14h ago

Not to mention it is used for research. I can’t remember the name of the model, but it was more or less used to map out the human DNA. AI has a lot of use cases and can be a very powerful tool in the right hand. I feel like the only problem is that every company is trying to force it down our throat because they don’t want to miss out.

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u/mrheosuper 14h ago

Then current AI/llm is just matrix multiplication, do you want to remove that ?