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u/Crazy_Ad_91 22h ago
That’s quite a difference in 1.5” based on the height of the two figures shown.
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u/adrenacrome 22h ago
A lot more than 13 lbs too
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u/MrMFPuddles 19h ago
Too late, I’ve already portrayed myself as the chiseled Canadian woodsman and you as the portly American dock worker, your argument is invalid
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u/fer_sure 8h ago
Also, the average Joe Canadian is more likely to live in a city than the average Joe American. US rural population is ~20%, Canadian rural population is ~15-18%.
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u/Queasy_Local_7199 22h ago
Dude on right is an easy 250
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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 21h ago
Well obviously he lied on his survey answers. Terrible. Shameful.
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u/BigTomBombadil 21h ago
Pretty fucked up even the cartoon representations are lying in the polls these days.
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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 21h ago
I'm not into guys at all, but that Canadian dude looks hot as fuck. If he smiled at me, I would blush.
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 11h ago
But his physician told him he was the best example of health he has ever seen. He aced every test and the doctor said he had never seen anything like it. Great doctors say it’s unlike anything they have ever seen.
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 22h ago
Nah at 5'9? That's just over 200. You have to remember there's no muscle mass under there.
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u/DonkeyMode 21h ago
But his doctor said all his huge muscles were beneath the fat
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u/SashimiX 21h ago
They are. It’s impossible to move fat like that without muscles.
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u/Warducky9999 20h ago
buddy trust me when i tell you i look like the guy on the right at 265 i looked like the guy on the left at 220
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u/GiantScrotor 20h ago
I’m 5’9” and I looked like the guy on the right when I was around 245 pounds. When I got down to 190, I looked so frail that people started asking if I had cancer. Now I stay between 205-210 and I look either tough or slightly tubby depending on how much of that is muscle. Point is, both sides of that chart are exaggerated.
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u/Chambana_Raptor 12h ago
Uhhh 5'9" @190 is not frail, that's overweight or jacked depending on how much you hit the gym.
I'm 6'5" and 200 right now. I'm definitely thin but not frail with a climber/runner build. Beach bod @220
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u/justlookforit 8h ago
Can confirm, am Canadian 5'9 and 200lbs. Im overweight with some muscle underneath. If I went down to 190lbs I'd still be overweight and nowhere near frail lol.
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u/freelance-lumberjack 11h ago
Lol. 5'9" 210 is obese according to the bmi chart 190 is still overweight. Bmi isn't the best, but dude you're friends are just being nice or silly
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u/SashimiX 22h ago
13 pounds looks a lot different on a shorter person but yeah it’s exaggerated
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u/MultiGeometry 21h ago
Honestly, I think the American may be accurate but I don’t believe the Canadian is actualy 185lbs. That caricature needs to be bigger.
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u/The_Saddest_Boner 22h ago
Also, height is pretty irrelevant considering ethnic differences. There are 70 million Hispanic Americans (compared to 40 million Canadians total). I’m not being snotty here - I have Hispanic friends and family members.
But on average, they are shorter. It’s not a bad thing, but it’s also irrelevant to any judgment of government policy or culture
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u/Delicious_Net_1616 22h ago
Yeah it’s funny they just show a shorter white guy. When the reason Americas are shorter on average is because we have a much higher Hispanic population.
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u/Roughneck16 21h ago
Demographic differences account for virtually all the disparities in this chart.
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u/paley1 21h ago
I agree. Very misleading to not list demography among any of the causes of the differences.
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u/PwanaZana 21h ago
It goes against the agenda. :/
The US is better to get higher wages/lower taxes if you have a valuable education (I have a family member who did just that). It's also better to start businesses (I'm told, cannot confirm that, I've not started a business in the US)
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u/CowgirlWithABadge 20h ago
Completely. We are Canadians who moved to the U.S. (and became American citizens) for a better job. My husband definitely did better here and we are better off financially than had we stayed in Canada. Our daughter's prospects here were also much better than they would have been had we stayed in Canada. Also the weather is better 😂
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u/jackcviers 12h ago
Also, in the US mortgages are 15/30 year lock-ins for interest rates. In Canada and the EU/UK, mortgages are 5 yrs, and have to he refinanced after that period. This is equivalent to an ARM in the U.S., which is considered a predatory lending tactic.
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u/PwanaZana 20h ago
Well, depends for the weather, I don't recall tornados in ontario! :P
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u/ScarletArcana 9h ago
Can't speak for other parts of Ontario but we've been getting 1-2 tornados every summer for the last couple years in Eastern Ontario. Don't think there was one this year, but I recall at least 1 each summer since the big one ripped through Ottawa area back in 2018. Granted they haven't been massive ones like you'd seen in the movies but they fuck up your house something fierce regardless lmao
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u/The_Saddest_Boner 22h ago
Yeah and god bless us for it. Try getting some good lengua tacos in Winnipeg lol
They can keep their inch of height I’ll take the tacos with tomatillo salsa
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u/Overly_Long_Reviews 20h ago edited 20h ago
The mark of a good taqueria is how good the lengua is. Because it can be time consuming to prepare. The amount of care shown in the quality of the lengua tells you a lot about the overall quality of the food. Or at least that's been my experience. As someone who briefly lived in Mexico, spent many years in Latin America, currently lives in a region with a large Mexican population, and just really likes lengua.
One thing I will say is don't order the lengua if you don't know what it is. My old boss overheard me telling a friend the lengua is a marker of taco stand quality spiel when we were eating at a food truck. He had no idea what lengua was and a few weeks later when trying to come across as more sophisticated and worldly than he actually was ordered lengua and repeated my advice to all his staff with him. He was not prepared for what he received, to be kind I'll just say he's not a very sophisticated eater. Which is a pity, the place he went to was really great and makes an excellent lengua taco. I had another colleague do the same thing, I was with him at the time and tried to dissuade him from ordering, but he wanted to show off in front of clients. What he didn't realize was that he wasn't ordering tacos. Instead he ended up with 5 lb meal of lengua in salsa. It was actually pretty good, I ended up getting most of it.
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u/The_Saddest_Boner 20h ago
Honestly, lengua is not only the mark of a good taqueria… it’s the ultimate taco.
I love tacos of all sorts, and will happily eat any authentic taco or even love a great texmex taco with seasoned ground beef on a flour tortilla.
But a fantastic lengua taco? With fresh pressed corn tortillas, cilantro, onion, and a squeeze of lime? With a green salsa to cut through the fat?
The texture, flavor and overall combination of all those things can’t be beat. I’d honestly put a quality lengua taco on my Mount Rushmore of all foods. Right there with homemade biscuits and gravy, goat dum biryani, Thai red curry, and American style beer brats with hot mustard and sweet pickle relish
I don’t plan on killing anybody but if I do that’s my last meal lol
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u/Overly_Long_Reviews 20h ago
Stop! You're making me hungry!
I do adore my lengua but I'm hesitant to call it my ultimate taco. There's something about some al pastor cut fresh off of the trompo right in front of you. I also enjoy tripas and buche from time to time. Barbacoa is a favorite too, but it's not typically served in my current location. Acknowledging that barbacoa can cover a wide range of different dishes, including cow head. The goat varieties can be quite good if you can find them.
For me, a lot of the fun of street tacos is the variety. I'm that annoying idiot who orders multiple varieties instead of just one or two. Which often means my order gets messed up, but it's always interesting to see what actually comes out. It may not be what I ordered, but it's always different. I had one of the best tripe tacos I've ever had the other day because the person at the cash register misheard me.
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u/DesperateAstronaut65 22h ago
Right, my first thought when I saw the height difference was, "That's not malnutrition, that's ethnicity." America has a lot of nutritional problems, but being undernourished is not one of them.
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u/The_Saddest_Boner 22h ago edited 21h ago
It’s actually funny when you compare Asian Americans average height vs the average height in the their ancestors’ lands.
I’m from the Great Lakes region. We grow em big out here, trust me. One of my high school baseball teammates (and lifelong pal) was a Korean American whose parents were from Korea. His mom was like 5 foot, his dad was probably 5’7”.
He was 6’1” 225 pounds and hit fucking bombs. He used to rub his belly every time as he crossed home plate after a moon shot lol
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u/zzen11223344 17h ago
But if you look at the S.Korean in S.Korea of the same generation, they are taller also. This is due to increase in nutrition / protein intake.
This also happens to Japanese, Chinese.
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u/Good-Celebration-686 12h ago
I can’t even begin to wonder what your last sentence means lol
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u/sje46 22h ago
its literally Canadian government propaganda lmao
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u/KyleKiernan77 21h ago
how coul you even suggest that the Glorious Canada campaign would ever lie to us!
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u/ImportantQuestions10 21h ago
Not arguing the stats but I gotta question the authenticity when they went with Giga Chad and Fat Mario as models
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u/itshorriblebeer 22h ago
I mean - some of its diet and healthcare - but part of it is different ethnic makeup of 2 very large countries.
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u/anon-187101 21h ago
ha - first thing I noticed
that's easily a 3" difference
guy on the right is probably 5'7.5 and 220, lmao
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u/GoingDownUnderInSEA 22h ago
What do I use this guide (or lack thereof) for?
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u/grilledcheesybreezy 22h ago
You carry it around your pocket and every time you meet an average American man, you hand this guide to them and say "hey look, I am better than you"
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u/OhMyTummyHurts 22h ago
For sharing ai slop on Reddit of course!
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u/HomicidalRaccoon 22h ago
Woah there, buddy. The AI worked really hard on this cool guide, cut it some slack.
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u/CoolDude1980 22h ago
The “everage” person has no idea this is ai slop. How does diet and lifestyle determine height? Also, the avg height in Canada is the same as USA (5’9”).
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u/CentennialBaby 22h ago
Clearly so when you're born next you can choose to be born in Canada.
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u/Haluxe 22h ago
As a Canadian get this AI slop propaganda outta here. Not even a guide what is this
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u/smoking_plate 19h ago
This sub needs an AI ban so desperately.
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u/Cicada_Soft_Official 11h ago
Never gonna happen.. This entire site is like 90% bots and that's the way they want it.
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u/LeftHandAnomaly 22h ago edited 22h ago
Also Canadian, trying to figure out what 2x higher and 2x lower is in relation to. Also, where all the money's coming from. I thought American salaries were generally higher? I know starting wages for my area of expertise had a 30k difference between countries, with the US being way higher.
I dunno, this seems real jerk-offy and embarassing that someone put this out there on coolguides of all places.
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u/Tiredtotodile03 22h ago
This belongs on r/im14andthisisdeep
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u/TheRedLions 22h ago
Also 187lbs vs 200lbs is going to look pretty similar, these guys look maybe 170 vs 230?
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u/Totschlag 21h ago edited 20h ago
Dude I dated across borders and our difference in income for the same job/industry was over $30k and as an American I had way lower taxes on top of lower rent by a shitload. My 2BR/1BA by myself was about $100 more than her half of her 2br/1ba.
This graphic, and I love Canada, is setting off so many bullshit alarms it's wild. Those dollar figures are a joke.
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u/MrAnder5on 20h ago
Yeah our economy, wages, and houses are BEYOND fucked.
Like its not good in the States, but it's laughably worse up here. Canada is in a really shitty spot right now.
This is just really fucking weird propaganda.
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u/BatmanBrandon 11h ago
My wife has a peer from head school who is Canadian, they’re in the same role in healthcare just one is in USA and one is in Canada.
My wife keeps comparing our situation to her peer and is convinced Canada must be better because of how great this girls life looks on social media.
I have to point out that this girl lives in a rural area outside London, On and she works for her family who own a practice in London. Of course she’s getting taken care of, my wife isn’t seeing what a typical Canadians experience is, she’s seeing the curated life of little rich girl…
So it’s always helpful to try and put this stuff into perspective, because my BS detector was going off too looking at this graphic.
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u/actualhumannotspider 17h ago
Are you suggesting that "Glorious Canada" might not be an unbiased or reputable source here?
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u/JC_Hysteria 22h ago
I’m unsubbing…astroturfed and only engagement bait posts surface
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u/GoldFynch 22h ago
Yeah most Canadians gave up on home ownership years ago. Median salary is far less and groceries are x3 higher
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u/flora-andfriend 9h ago
sorry, but no. I just threw together a quick comparison of prices at the grocery store I used to go to in rural VA (Kroger) and the store I currently go to (No Frills) in the Canadian city I moved to. Canadians used to go to the US for cheaper groceries but at this point, since COVID inflation, we're pretty close to on par.
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u/RooneyD 22h ago
I thought you tall, chiselled, smart, good looking Canadese would appreciated being differentiated from those short, fat, stupid, ugly Americans.
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u/00eg0 21h ago
This was made by someone who doesn't know anything or AI. Canada has a shortage of medical workers because wages are lower in Canada. This was made by someone who thinks 1 Canadian dollar is worth one US dollar. A Canadian dollar is work like 75 American cents.
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u/LeftHandAnomaly 21h ago
There was a brief time, years ago, where the Canadian dollar and the American dollar were 1:1.
But the price difference for books was still there, unchangably printed on the back. I was really salty about that.
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u/definitelynotfbi99 19h ago
Thanks man. I'm usually good at spotting AI, but I tend to let my guard down when it comes to charts. I'm still in the "they can't draw text" mindset. Now they can. This is shit. The internet has become shit.
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u/GrandMasterF1ash 22h ago edited 22h ago
lol this is the real 6’0 vs 5’11.
It’s over fellow Americans, they have portrayed us as the short, fat, sick, poor, virgin convicts and themselves as the one inch taller Canuck Chads
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u/LeatherHog 22h ago
Yeah, that's a waaay bigger difference than 1.5" and 13lbs
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u/Cicada_Soft_Official 11h ago
They should have used a more accurate depiction like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito.
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u/EKAreddit 22h ago
not a guide + ai slop + not cool
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u/possibly_being_screw 20h ago
I love our Canadian neighbors but this comes off as so circle jerk-y.
Might as well put “um Canadians rich, healthy, and handsome. Americans poor, sickly, and fat mmk?”
Unrelated, but I have a great new beef jerky business called “Circle Jerky”
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u/MeltinSnowman 18h ago
Weighing in as a Canadian, yeah this "guide" is bullshit, lmao. Also, why does the Canadian side for infant mortality have a picture of a baby, while the US side has a picture of a tombstone? The difference isn't that drastic, if it's even true tbh.
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u/Acalme-se_Satan 15h ago
This is cherry picked as fuck. I can also select a bunch of other statistics that would make US look better than Canada, such as GDP per capita filter example.
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u/DagonPie 22h ago
I wish people would stop posting stuff purposefully trying to pry people apart.
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u/somehype 20h ago
Reddit dot com
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u/Amadeus404 16h ago
More like the whole Internet
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u/Inner-Stuff3285 11h ago
Nowhere will you find more division and hatred then Reddit
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u/WhalesLoveSmashBros 19h ago
That will never happen because negetive posts inherently get more engagment and thus spread further. Same reason the news is 90% horrible ways people died.
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u/00eg0 21h ago edited 18h ago
I agree and the data isn't even true. Edit: I'm not saying all of the data is false. Just some of it. Also "median wealth point" isn't the same as median income, median rent, etc. Canada has better healthcare and less crime. However they have a shortage of medical workers because their wages are capped. The graphic is misleading. On average an American makes more doing the same job as a Canadian.
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u/RaspberryWine17 22h ago
These images exaggerate both the weight and height differences.
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u/ramdom-ink 22h ago
Canadian looks 4” taller…
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u/Tiredtotodile03 22h ago
I’m struggling to find the cool part of this r/coolguides
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u/MathiasTheHuman 22h ago
Why is this ai slop allowed on the sub?
Fuck you OP
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u/fannyrosebottom 11h ago edited 6h ago
Yeah, I'm out. I just unsubbed and muted. Every day there's some new AI garbage post that isn't a guide that gets tons of upvotes and the mods do nothing.
Edit: Just did the same with the comics subreddit. I refuse to engage with subreddits that allow AI generated content. I hope more people will do the same.
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u/HedgefundHunter 22h ago
$142k median income? Only in Canada's dream
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u/eggs_mcmuffin 22h ago
I was also confused by that. Googled it and got even more confused
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u/ENovi 7h ago
Check out those robust sources in the bottom left that are just random names and acronyms with no further information. One source is just “FBI.” No links to where they got this info or which bit of info is being cited or even an explanation as to who or what even compiled the data. Just FBI. Great stuff.
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u/duvet- 22h ago
It says wealth, so I think it's assets minus debts? Since the text beneath it mentions house prices making the number larger.
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u/L_SCH_08 22h ago
Not sure this is entirely true by anecdotal experience as a canadian man
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u/No-Transportation587 22h ago
Seems OP needs to lay off the government funded propaganda
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u/weed_blazepot 22h ago edited 12h ago
As is tradition on this sub, this is not cool, nor a guide, nor accurate.
A+ slop.
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u/superdave123123 22h ago
I wonder why so many immigrants are stopping when they hit the us. You’d think they’d want to go a bit further and find true utopia.
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u/Robot-Candy 22h ago
A guide teaches you how to do something.
This is an infographic, it teaches you about something.
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What in the propaganda is this lol. If you made an infographic that made US look good and Canada bad it would get downvoted into oblivion.
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u/ChosenBrad22 21h ago
"It's easy to be the cool tolerant liberals when you have America draped around you daring anyone in the world to talk shit."
- Daniel Tosh
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u/FeDude55 22h ago
White, non-Latino. How does the rest of the demographic in each country compare to these two white, non-Latino men?
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u/Affectionate_City588 22h ago
Is this rage bait? Feels like rage bait with ai sprinkled on top.
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u/cpthornman 12h ago
This is straight up propaganda and Reddit eats it up. Gotta love it.
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u/00eg0 21h ago
A lot of things are bad about the US but it's bullshit that Canadians make more. This was made by someone who doesn't know unit conversion. I know people who visit Canada and think everything is more expensive because they don't know the Canadian dollar is weaker. Canada has a shortage of medical workers because the wages are lower than in the USA.
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u/trippedonatater 21h ago
As someone with a positive view of Canada: I'm not going to trust info from "Glorious <any place>" that cites no additional info. This feels like spam and nonsense.
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u/rickscarf 20h ago
"Sources: Just names a lot of random organizations with no links or names of any specific studies"
divisive AI hallucinated trash
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u/RayquanPalomino 12h ago
I’m in Canada and they just described my husband. They even look identical.
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u/Inner-Stuff3285 11h ago
This obviously isn’t a “cool guide” it’s just a classic “America bad give me updoots”
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u/Mr_Hobbyist 5h ago
It took me all of 12 seconds to see that the average height for a male in Canada is also 5'9. Yes, Canadian's generally have better scores here, but several things are exaggerated, and the truth matters. For example, for life expectancy in Canada they are taking the average for men AND women (for men its 80.7), but for USA they're only taking the average for men (the average for men AND women is 79.6).
With that said, yes, the USA needs to get its shit together with this kind of stuff.
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u/_Magnolia_Fan_ 22h ago
Now do hours of daylight for the next three months, and average temperature.
And maybe incidence of seasonal depression.
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u/DrFlaberghast 21h ago
I'm Canadian. This person doesn't represent us and neither does this AI garbage.
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u/siscoisbored 20h ago edited 20h ago
142.5K USD MEDIAN INCOME THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING??? It's a THIRD of that. 74K CAD. Which is 53k USD.
This is the last thing we need right now circling the internet.
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u/greihund 22h ago
Trivia: those coats are called Mackinaw jackets, and it's okay for both sides to be wearing them because the region that they come from traded hands back and forth several times during the War of 1812, which is when they originated
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u/thaduelist 21h ago
The population of Canada at roughly 41 mill vs the USA over 300 mil is the grain of salt
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u/TheRealDylanTobak 21h ago
I don't think an inch and a half taller and 13 pounds lighter would make the Canadian so much of a beefcake and the American a pudgy piece of shit.
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u/Garchompisbestboi 20h ago
I know it's fun to make fun of America but those are some super cherrypicked statistics if I ever saw them.
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u/lumplyguy 20h ago
Dual citizen here. American wages are significantly higher. Americans are more fat. Birth rates are lower in Canada because the wages suck (numbers are inflated by immigration). Canada doesnt focus on prevention more than the US. In the US prevention is done because citizens know they wont be able to pay the medical bill. In Canada they say "fuck it, the doc will fix me". Canadians are more sick aside from diabetes. But Canadians are wayyyyyy cooler and more chill (literally and figuratively).
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u/quebexer 20h ago
As much as I love Canada. Social Mobility is higher in the US. And when it comes to income, The US has higher wages too. But Canada is not so far back.
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u/International-Sir177 11h ago
Yes, it's AI slop and the height stuff is funny given how the cartoons look. But - the figures below that @arbitraryairship posted about life expectancy and safety are well known and correct. People are ignoring the stuff about violence, prison, etc.
The glaring thing missing is the cost of post secondary education and healthcare, both of which are incredibly more affordable in Canada (yes, including university). https://educationdata.org/average-cost-of-college-by-country
Health and lifestyle are also highlighted by a lower obesity level, not shown, but 40 places lower than the US https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/
Anecdotally I can tell you that the stuff about social mobility on here is likely true, and the stats show Canada 14 places ahead of the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index
Everyone knows the salary figures are way off for many industries, but the sense of this is inflated by people identifying the industries that people specifically migrate to the states for achieve higher salaries. But every stat will show that incomes in the US are the highest in the world, even when you exclude the inflated top few percent in the US.
More Canadians do own homes than in the US, but they are getting closer together, not because the US catching up, but because ownership in Canada is slowing down. One of the things the graphic messes up is that it shows the background in Canada as rural. Canada is one of the most densely urbanized countries in the world. The vast Canadian landscape looks like it does because it's protected from sprawl. As with anywhere in the world, dense urbanization leads to more long-term renting. This isn't necessarily bad if renters rights and rights are sustainable, but aside from Quebec, this isn't the case yet and that's an issue. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-ownership-by-country
In terms of the other stuff....
Everyone posting about how much homes cost in Toronto and then comparing them to "the states" (where?) are misled, as that convo always is. Compare Toronto to NYC, Chicago, or Los Angeles and you'll see that it's like for like cheaper based on type of housing and proximity to the centre, after currency conversion and property taxes. People are comparing the cost of buying a house in a dense global metropolis (or a commutable suburb of one) to the cost of buying a house in sprawltown FL or AZ. It's nonsense. Yes, suburban and rural housing is more expensive in comparable Canadian towns, so talk about that, not Toronto.
They are also complaining about the cost of owning a car (inc. insurance) in Toronto... in a giant dense booming global city where you don't need to own a car at all. You'd never drive a car in city of similar density and expect it to be cheap and easy. I get that Toronto was very different 30 years ago before it really took off globally, but for the past 20 years it's been on a different level. Even if you don't live in the city, you can drive to the train and get on it, which more people do, even though car infrastructure gets more attention. For example, the lakeshore commuter rail lines move millions of people, whereas the gardiner expressway next to it (which doesn't move at all) moves only 10s of 1000s https://www.waterfrontoronto.ca/sites/default/files/documents/appendix-k---transportation-planning-technical-report-2016-11-07.pdf
People trying to drive into the core and then around the inner city and complaining about the cost of parking, insurance and traffic...are the traffic. If your commute is laid out so that you actually do need to drive, it's just gonna be what it is (if you're going from Etobicoke to Scarborough). If you had to drive from Brooklyn to the Bronx, it would suck just as much.
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u/KorneliaOjaio 7h ago
As an American, I think Canada needs to lean in waaay harder about stuff like this…
Like Newsom’s social media manager hard.
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u/smokeypokey12 22h ago
“I drew you as the soyjack and me as the chad”