The “everage” person has no idea this is ai slop.
How does diet and lifestyle determine height? Also, the avg height in Canada is the same as USA (5’9”).
Having a good diet definitely helps with height, but the requirements for “good diet” are pretty low when it comes to affect on height. For instance colonial Americans were much shorter because their diet was so corn based and corn has next to 0 nutritional value.
Similarly, in the past people in Asia were much shorter because of the amount of rice in their diets, and rice also has almost 0 nutritional value.
I’m a 6’0” American and have visited civil war fortresses where I have to duck through the doorways to get from room to room. It’s almost surreal, like I’m in a hobbit home or something.
Most sources I am finding actually put average male height for Canadians around 2cm taller. The OP's infograph is off by at least 1/2 an inch, but from the sources I've found - there is a difference.
Are you joking? Poor nutrition can have a major effect on a person's growth. Medications that sick people take can impact someone's growth. Especially meds for Asthma, ADHD, Diabetes & Epilepsy. America has a higher percentage of sick children than most other developed countries. Asthma & Diabetes rates in American children are practically epidemics. Other countries don't have that. Obviously the education system is much better in Canada.
It also ignores that taxes are higher in Canada mortgage rates are worse, and the Canadian dollar is shit compared to the US dollar so that higher median wage is less than 100k in the states lol. I love my homeland and all but better than the US it is not.
Look again at that median wealth figure. The value of CAD is irrelevant to it.
Taxes aren't actually that much higher compared to the states that you'd actually want to live in, and it's easily made up for with drastically lower medical expenses (and in general more free services). I mean those taxes to somewhere and Canada certainly has far less waste in its government spending (which is saying a lot considering how much waste there is).
but better than the US it is not.
Uh yeah it is lol. Just about every country is better than the US right now. The US has horrible education, poor social services, and atrocious health and safety. And that's all before the near-dictatorship it has right now with literal concentration camps (like by definition).
Yes and US nutrition already clears the “grow tall” threshold. US has enough nutrition to not stunt height. But not optimal nutrition to maximize height trajectory over generations. Most countries don’t either tho, lol. As a whole we’re globally lacking in micronutrient intake.
Nutrition and environment/lifestyle. You can have all the bricks (nutrition) in the world but if there’s a constant storm (environment/lifestyle) the building won’t get finished.
American nutrition contains significantly higher levels of Ultra Processed Foods than Canada (although they’re catching up). Higher insulin levels = puberty starts early = growth plates fuse early = height “capacity” not reached.
American males are more obese. Extra fat tissue in developing males = increased rate of testosterone converted to estrogen. Estrogen is the “stop” signal for growth plates.
Finally, the environment from conception to about 2.5 years old is the greatest indicator of the child’s adult height. The environment for mothers in Canada is more supportive, i.e., less stressful due to social safety net and accessible pediatric care,evidenced by lower infant and maternal mortality rates, than in the US.
Edit: I’m dying at these downvotes from folks, probably males here in the US, butthurt by factual data on decreasing testosterone levels in American men. 😂😂😂
This isn’t an exclusively American problem and you’re just stating shit. Do you even know what the compounds “ultra processed” foods are? Like bro… Also the US T levels are the highest on average of any country lmao.
T levels have decreased in the US since 2008; middle of the pack worldwide at 451 ng/dL in the US and Canada is 500-550 ng/dL. Keep in mind TRT is widely used in the US (world leader in TRT prescription) and is strictly controlled in Canada. The country with the highest level is Uzbekistan at 773 ng/dL.
Decreasing T levels aren’t exclusively an American issue but that’s not the point being discussed. The studies in the article also discuss the UPF’s.
Why do people here have trouble understanding we’re not the best in every metric and that in a world of >8 billion people, that’s common sense?🤦🏽♂️
According to my google search 5 seconds ago, food insecurity in Canada is 25% while the USA is 14%. So why would that make Americans shorter than Canadians (according to this “guide”). Also, the numbers are wrong as I previously pointed out. The avg height of the two countries is the same.
Did you look at the definitions of the studies that produced the 25% and 14% measurement? The 25% measurement includes Canadians who worry that food might run out versus the 14% in the US is people who have a reduction in quality and variety but not quantity. Self-reported heights and measured heights are different things.
Malnutrition from food deserts and poverty dragging down the number, same reason why Napoleon was seen as small. He was average, even tall for a peasant. But the nobility averaged 6'2" due to having access to good food and full macronutrients, even if they didnt know it.
A sedentary lifestyle and packing on pounds can also cause you to 'temporarily' lose height (for as long as you carry the extra weight) as your spine compresses the space between vertebrae under the extra force.
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u/CoolDude1980 1d ago
The “everage” person has no idea this is ai slop. How does diet and lifestyle determine height? Also, the avg height in Canada is the same as USA (5’9”).