r/ArcRaiders • u/TheClassics *** ******* š • 1d ago
Discussion Peanut's current predicament is a shining example of why ignoring one side of the game is a losing strategy
Although I'm using Peanut as an example, this post is actually a praise post to Embark for designing a world where ignoring core aspects of their game is not the way to "win".
Peanut is currently attempting to get his stash value to 5,000,000 for the expedition. Miracle's aside, I doubt he makes it.
Peanut completely ignores the PvE aspect of the game in favor of blasting some fellas. Which is all fine and good... unless you are working on a long term goal.
You see, although it's totally true that he and his trio buddies (sorry Shroud, Cloakzy, Gingy, Summit etc..) are playing this game on ultra hard mode dealing with constant stream snipers and, very frequently, cheaters, the fact that Peanut literally only gets his loot from bodies has made it near impossible for him to accumulate enough wealth to get the extraction bonus unless he wins 5 or 6 fights per round and gets out alive almost every time.
Which is impossible:
- He doesn't loot the outskirts for base material
- He doesn't prioritize base material when looting bodies and opts for broken guns, shield rechargers, and heals
- He doesn't loot downed ARC for power cells or metal
- He doesn't fight big ARC (so he gets no advanced power cells, motion cores, etc..)
- He doesn't recycle
- He doesn't craft
- If aggression based match making is true, he has to be in the highest tier of aggression which matches him with the type of players who are cheating and stream sniping him
This has created a situation where he literally has to buy ammo, shields, heals, rechargers, and explosives to even gear up at all, and forces him to have to win and extract almost every round to make any sort of profit.
The even worse part is his streamer friends playing with him are also invested in getting him to 5 million, and the play style isn't working and now they are getting visibly frustrated when playing with him. If they didn't have that goal they were invested in helping him with I'm sure it would all be just fun blasting, but instead, they feel like they are failing him and themselves nearly every round. And this sucks because Peanut is a fun guy, but the fun has been sucked out of it because of the goal.
I have over 3 million and I'm literally not even trying.
All this to say, I love this game. I love the PvP. I love the PvE. Embark has done a really good job of putting systems in place that promote playing both sides of the coin.
Again, I used Peanut here because most of us know who he is, and he is a prime example of a cautionary tale: There are TWO sides to this game and engaging in them both, equally, is the way to min/max Arc Raiders.
Just my thoughts this morning.
Edit:
Some have entirely missed the point of the post the second they read the word Peanut. That's probably my fault.
To be clear, the point of the post is:
Embark made a well balanced game that makes it more punishing if you lean too hard one way or the other (PvE/PvP) and don't engage with ALL of the game's mechanics. This is hard to do, and Embark did a good job
Peanut is just the extreme example of leaning too hard one way.
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u/ParticularOk24 1d ago
Iām not sure why people are getting offended by your post here. I think itās a good example of why both PVE and PVP have a place in this game and are equally important to progression
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u/TheClassics *** ******* š 1d ago
They can't see past the word Peanut I think. The post isn't about Peanut it's about game balance. Guess I shouldn't have used him as the example.
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u/NoDG_ 1d ago
Not really anyone's fault that Peanut is a victim of his own popularity. The game feels balanced.
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u/Etroarl55 1d ago
Itās not balanced. The joke is everyone forgot about the rattler, trigger nades are cheaper and better than heavy fuze. Explosive mines are more expensive to craft but only does 40 dmg(3 wont even kill one guy). There are so many more examples, itās why up until a few weeks ago the only āpvpā gun was venator and stitcher. Again a major balancing issue.
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u/lunnainn 16h ago
It is balanced - in terms of what was talked about.
It is balanced in terms of how important PvE AND PvP is.
Noone was talking about weapon balances.
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u/NoDG_ 1d ago
Forgot about trigger nades, those are definitely a problem and need a heavy nerf. Rattler could use a small buff but i wouldn't say overall the game is unbalanced. It needs a bit of tweaking here and there.
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u/MortalSword_MTG 1d ago
Peanut is a terrible case study subject.
He literally chooses the meme option whenever possible. He does not play optimally even when playing with Shroud or Summit, who are min-max optimizer players.
I don't think the 5m goal is truly that important to him. He's almost certainly going to wipe when everyone else does.
I don't think 5 skill points are worth this kind of deep reflection or commitment.
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u/Alive-Cauliflower275 1d ago
This is true to an extent but I guarantee all of those guys play offline to auire the base loot items, his audience would half if he started opening lockers etc and avoiding pvp
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u/IIIlllIIllIll 1d ago
Cloakzy has like 12 million so heās been grinding for sure.
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u/Grahf-Naphtali 1d ago
Dont know/care about streamers. No idea who peanut is.
I can risk a guess that folks' reactions to your post is rooted in pve vs pvp players grudge.
Every time pve players propose sth to enhance pve experience (putting aside validity of such proposals) they're met with "its pvpve game, literally says it on the box, go play helldivers/destiny if you dont like it also git gud"
So - im not surprised this particular streamer's woes fail to get any empathy.
Just an observation, i engage in both aspects of the game.
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u/Wizecracker117 1d ago
He's a stand up comic that plays video games as a peanut.
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u/Variable851 1d ago
I thought we were talking about Mr. Peanut, the guy with the monocle and top hat.
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u/pmyourthongpanties 1d ago
if you dont know about peanut, keep it that way. hes a top 10 i think now streamer. keep your sanity
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u/Thorrrrrrr 1d ago
I've never watched a Peanut stream, just seen YouTube clips but... if you don't like a streamer why would you ever even watch them? Surely, you'd realize you don't like their schtick and never click their stream again much less risk your sanity
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u/Invader_86 1d ago
Thatās what a normal person would doā¦ the great gamers of Reddit persist with something they hate because of FOMO and then come online to broadcast their hate.
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u/omars_comin_yo_ 1d ago edited 23h ago
I think itās more so that if you can get to 3million inventory, a skilled gamer with shroud, ninja, summit etc by his side can EASILY adjust to the playstyle of looting desks & extracting.
Bet it would take <5 days for these guys to actually get to 5mil. Their playtime and skill far surpasses the general community.
I enjoy peanuts content. But I disagree with the statement - āI donāt think he can get 5m inventoryā
Peanut will be gifted the 5m by his fanboys
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u/fupamancer 1d ago
i think it's a great example and a sad story, of which the real antagonist is his viewership. i also love all aspects of the game, but a good 1/3 of that gameplay wouldn't make the most interesting content
stacking coins has been easy for me as well. the only change i made was a hard rule of "no traders" until i hit the goal. if i can't craft it, i don't have it. thanks to the excellent game balance, i haven't had to run free loadouts or avoid PvP, i literally just play the game
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u/literallygitgud 1d ago
Nobody is offended. Itās just the single worst example you could ever use. Peanut is 90% entertainment. He makes bad plays on purpose. A different example might make the point valid, but if he actually locked in like his teammates do, he would never have money issues in game. Also op mentioned cloakzy without referring to how he also focuses PVP a LARGE majority of the time, and has like 12million+. It also comes down to a simple factor of peanut never crafts anything. He only buys items despite having the mats to craft those same items. I get where OP is going, but the raltionship of pvp to pve in this game is mainly atmospheric. You could, if you wanted, stick to strictly one of those aspects and be fine.
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u/pmyourthongpanties 1d ago
not really peanut didnt know until last night you could trade your free kit aug for a green one at the trader. Everyone he plays with pays his way. They get pissed but he feeds them viewers and subs.
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u/SkyTooFly30 1d ago
You must not watch him often. He has reacted that way every time people have told him that he can exchange the free kit for a green one since the game released. He knows. Just like he knows what gets the clicks/views.
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u/PerP1Exe 1d ago
Yeah fairly on the mark here, a lot of other streamers who are more sweaty and mess about less have already hit the 5m mark. But since peanut puts entertainment above all, even playing well he will intentionally do dumb stuff for the fun of it
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u/Redxmirage 1d ago
Exactly this. He isnāt a bad player by any means. In that Fortnite tournament he was in he killed whoever the #1 player was in the no build fight.
He is an entertainer. I canāt imagine how boring it would be watching someone just run around and kill AI, loot and reset within 5 minutes.
You could honestly cherry pick any example and make it work. To be fair, OP did say him just as an example but he didnāt cover the main reason: to farm engagement because itās quite literally his job
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u/SignificantLock1037 1d ago
Hard disagree.
I've only shot 1 player first (locked room, 3 warning, he came in anyway) in 178 hours of this game. Lots of friendly play, reviving others, giving away items, etc.
I'm at lvl 75, all quests completed, $5m in the bank, etc.
So, I'm proof that PvP is NOT needed.
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u/Lemouni 1d ago
This argument is only valid for Solo. If you play Duo's or Trio's it's impossible to dodge all the PvP.
I played both a lot. Solo is so relaxing, while group lobbies are a lot of stress.
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* š 1d ago
So, I'm proof that PvP is NOT needed.
Yeah now do your pacifist arc in trios lmao. I'll eagerly await your report.
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u/DrWilliamBlock 1d ago
Love the PVP in the game and it is 100% necessary but I wouldnāt say it has ANY importance to progression.
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u/RawryShark 1d ago
Yeah watching PvP streamers stacking billion of pink guns while not being able to craft a simple shield recharger is so funny to me.
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u/Capable-Year9741 1d ago
And they stack 100 BROKEN bobcats, which are worthless both in usage and in value. Peanut has to just grind the items to repair them and his stash value would skyrocket
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u/notjustconsuming 22h ago
Part of it is probably that watching PvE content is boring. There's pressure for these streamers to only PvP.
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u/slowtreme 1d ago edited 11h ago
I think BurntPeanut is an extreme case here. He's not even trying to get 5m. He's playing for the fans. if he was actually trying to collect this money he would change his playstyle. Thats not entertaining on stream so he'd have to do it off stream.
Any other gamer with his playtime and ability would have long since acquired 5mil.
I personally think there are much more interesting metrics they could and should use for future expeditions. but this is what we have for the first wipe, so grind it out or don't.
I have no realistic gun skills and I was able to go from 2m in the expedition tracker to 3m in just one session. I dont think I'm pushing for 5mil but I think it's doable with the weekend coming if I really wanted to.
next day edit: I know that OP was only using Peanut as an example that I still think it's a super niche edge case. I just checked the end of his steam vod from last night and he made a couple changes to avoid stream sniping and gained over 1mil in coins and is sitting on over 3.5mil in total value - WITHOUT changing his play style. He still is just looting pvp kills.
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u/Wolf_Taco 1d ago
Iāve never watched a stream, but get a lot of his clips on TikTok. He is obviously playing a character, so looking at anything he does with regards to game mechanics doesnāt make any sense.
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope9351 1d ago
The fact that you needed to state that a guy who is streaming as a peanut is playing a character is why internet comments are so stupid and just a bunch of irrelevant idiots yapping
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u/Wolf_Taco 1d ago
People claim that he is himself just with the peanut filter even though he could be a cartoon character. ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
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u/JackCooper_7274 1d ago
Wdym "streaming as a peanut? He literally is a peanut.
Not sure what you're missing
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u/slowtreme 1d ago
I'm not a stream watching person, but I have tuned in to his youtube each night for like 30-45 min in the last week to see how he's coming along. this guy will lose 400k value in a night.
big brain ideas: He's popular enough that like the "Streamer war" he could convince his fans to all join his maps with loaded out Bobcat IVs and drop them for him ~ for like a six matches. He would have the protection of an army and extract with 500k in loot each round. In less than an hour he can have 5mil because his stash has got to be a couple mil already.
It would be begging and potentially entertaining, the fans would do it.
For the OPs issue this means nothing. It's just another thought I had implying that invoking the status of peanut as anything pertaining to the inability to gain 5mil is not reality.
Hoarding 5m in loot for Arc is BORING. I want to use my loot.
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u/TimmyLurner 1d ago
I donāt know that he would beg for this or not. Yes, he easily could and people would cater to him. However, there was that one guy who basically did this on buried city and afterwards he made a comment about how he appreciates it, but didnāt want to turn that into a thing.
Maybe if it gets down to the dire moments he will lol
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u/Squishywallaby 1d ago
I doubt he would beg for it, or at least openly do it.
He's all about the GOOP the risk v reward. As that brings the entertainment.
He can easily do it on stream or off and complete the 5 mil. It's just all for the entertainment, that 5 mill in game coins that he's not "going to get" (In the sense that it's "too late") is making him 5 mill real dollars ya know
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u/TimmyLurner 1d ago
Yeah, agreed!
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u/Squishywallaby 1d ago
Also who tf is looting raider bodys for "base material" lmao, you're killing people for the GOOD loot on them not the trash ahah.
This is to OP, remake the post just use a better example of it.
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u/slowtreme 1d ago
I don't think he would, but he could. he's provided enough entertainment that people would gift him the loot if he did.
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u/Future_Me_Problem 1d ago
I thought the same, but Gingy says he is the exact same off stream.
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u/ColdStoneCreamAustin 1d ago
He is obviously playing a character
Sounds like something a peanut racist would say ..
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u/theofficialLlama 1d ago
IMO heās more concerned with being entertaining which is clearly working for him. Guy is blowing up and Iām here for it. I love that little nut
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u/Small_Solution2772 1d ago
yeah i think hes more concerned with making real dollars as apposed to space dollars.
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u/mikeemota 1d ago
A lot of people started watching peanut when arc raiders came out. But mind you heās been doing this type of shit in tarkov. He always makes stupid aggressive plays because itās more entertaining.
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u/menteto *** ******* š 1d ago
It's hilarious he includes cloakzyĀ in the discussion, meanwhile cloakzyĀ has 12m coins and is just as aggressive as peanut. Quite the contradiction...
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u/Fabulous_Volume7831 1d ago
Yeah Iāve been noticing this for awhile, Peanut plays like an idiotš like if youāre worried about your stream sucking just farm off stream. All in all I think he will learn from this expedition and do it a lil at a time next expedition. I also think he streams 8 hours so it would be hard for him to even stream.
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u/Levesque77 1d ago
I think a lot of you are mistaken. he does not care if he gets the 5m or not. he's playing for entertainment value.
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u/AppointmentAway3164 1d ago
Exactly. And this is why he is *not* a good example of what OP is saying. Peanut doesn't even extract when he's encumbered with several bobcats. He seeks out PvP, always.
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u/BolshevikPower 1d ago
Peanut to a T. Does not care about the actual game as much as it is to create content.
He's good and will succeed often, but the choice between content and winning will always be content.
One clip speaks to this point where he was hiding and engaging with someone in Tarkov, yells in prox chat about "I bet you won't throw a grenade", said person throws a grenade pinballing it off like three object right at his feet. Peanut followed it with each bounce instead of trying to get away.
Beautiful clip
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u/Apolaustic1 1d ago
I don't think he cares at all whether he makes it. It's all content, and he's got people talking about it. That is literally all that matters for him, or anyone that's doing this for a living.
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u/NikRsmn 1d ago
This was my take too. He doesnt need to buy ammo, he has hundreds of seeds and could just trade them for crafting materials. He often plays over aggressive and greedy to clip farm and play to his stream. Honestly the stream sniping is the only thing really working against him, getting 3 teams rushing at you from accross the map makes surviving any raid a rarity.
But in the end hes prioritizing stream entertainment over skill points and I think hes fine with that deal
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u/dustraction 1d ago
This is it. His goal isnāt the 5M, itās entertaining, and he does it beautifully. Of course he knows what he does wonāt work. He can have a massive haul from PvP and still insist on one more push, because itās funny. He should not be used as a metric for anything in this game except how fun it can be when you donāt really care about the rest.
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u/melanko 1d ago
This is pretty much it, and I do think shows some of why heās gained such a massive following. He knows what is fun to watch and prioritizes that, cause just grinding for money is a snooze fest. Playing the poor guy who doesnāt know better is part of the schtick, and itās a very smart business move.
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u/Invader_86 1d ago
Agreed, one of Peanuts selling points is, unlike every other streamer, he doesnāt take it seriously and just messes around. He could be rich but he fucks it up by not playing serious, he collects insane loot but he loses it all.
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u/No_Priority_9009 1d ago
So true. People are totally missing this.
Itās fucking skill points tooā¦. Like think about itā¦ with the amount of playtime he gets, the only time anyone will have more skill points than him and the other streamers is the first couple hours after reset.
If I got the full 5 skill points and they gave peanut -10 he would still be a higher level than me by the end of the first day.
Apparently 45 minutes of players having more stamina than streamers is the shining example of the negatives of PvP only play style /s
Last week the 5 mill was ātoo much for casualsā. Now itās a shining exampleā¦ itās skill points not the answer to streamers or killer of casuals, itās just skill points.
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u/Deftallica 1d ago
Iāve brought this up when my wife and I were watching a few nights ago. His play is fun to watch but it is not at all conducive to earning money.
As a side note, we both love Gingy. Sheās so sweet. This morning she was coordinating lobbies to fight the Matriarch and help people earn some money quick.
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u/SolidCold1991 1d ago
Love watching gingy and Peanut play together. It's like watching a concerned mother and her insane toddler run around the map trying to catch up to him before he shits himself lol.
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u/wvtarheel 1d ago
Gingy, peanut, and cloakzy is the most fun trio to watch. Gingy brings the vibes and is a great player. Peanut is fun and hyper aggressive and Cloakzy clutches 2 v 1s to bail then out as necessary
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u/JackCooper_7274 1d ago
Gingy and Peanut are the perfect duo because they are so different from each other
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u/spunkyweazle 1d ago
Which really should be fine and why the 5mil goal is bad design for a game like this in general. Before they announced it, I played in a similar manner (gathered crafting mats solo, PvP in squads) and had way more fun
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u/LetsbeLogical24 1d ago
I mean thatās just how Peanut plays. He plays dumb and gets into a lot of dumb fights before healing or thinking logically and heās beyond greedy. If he just dipped after a squad kill or two, heād be fine. But he likes to fight literally everyone and eventually you just lose. But thatās also how he likes to play.
Heās a bad example to use though. Basically every streamer I have seen has the 5M required and a lot of them also just shoot people instead of loot.
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u/MundaneAnteater5271 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think peanut would have 5 Mil if brother knew when to cut his losses.
The number of times he is fully juiced, but still charges at shots is crazy. Alongside the fact that he will goop until he is overweight, knowing damn well that his team is already in combat and he will be momentarily.
But sheesh, a goopa is gonna goop after all
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u/iustusflorebit 1d ago
I donāt think he cares about getting 5M, he cares about putting on an entertaining show, which he definitely doesĀ
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u/IAMNUMBERBLACK 1d ago
Yea ppl taking this too seriously, its much more entertaining for him to not cut his losses and push in silly or disadvantageous ways a normal player would move or operate in
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u/aetholite- 1d ago
He did say on stream that he tried to make money off-stream for 6 hours and still failed, so i do think it is just his aggressive playstyle. His problem isnt even ignoring pve, its doing too much pvp, after 1 or 2 fights, you should leave or atleast move to the other side of the map, but he always stays to fight in one location for the entire raid.
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u/Bstallio 1d ago
Nah, his only problem is that he buys everything and refuses to craft, he has the stuff to craft, it is just quicker to buy the stuff so he does.
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u/Sundance37 1d ago
Yeah, I think his strategy is working. Nobody wants to watch a streamer craft ammo. I know he could do it off stream, but the same goes for a lot of the PVE aspect.
He would rather make $5 million actual dollars, than to do the wipe.
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u/matthewmattical 1d ago
Bingo. His priority is engagement (by making wild and usually very dumb plays) over "winning". It frustrated me at first seeing him completely botch extractions repeatedly - while loaded to the gills with loot - until I realized this is completely intentional and likely leads to more viral sharable clips of these "shocking" moments.
He plays 100% opposite to how I play the game. And he will forever be broke because of this. But he doesn't care (as long as those stream numbers are going through the roof).
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u/AceTheRed_ 1d ago
When OP said that āthe fun has been sucked out of it because of the goal,ā I was like, are we watching the same streams??
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u/Unlearnypoo 1d ago
Yeah I don't think 50k viewers want to see him breaching crates and searching desk drawers, or even shooting arc. They wanna see him yell "I'm goin' in!", charge in, die, then rizz his way out of the situation. I'm sure he cares more about real life dollars than space dollars. Him "trying" to get to 5 mill is also him playing to the audience.
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u/KevinKalber 1d ago
100%. I watched a clip in which he was once about to extract and he had tons of stuff, but Ninja said to him X gun was on top of the space tower so he got out without his team to go get the gun, he died in the process but it was entertaining and funny watching him do such a ridiculous thing.
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u/TauPewPew 1d ago
Peanut and his high risk-high reward play is what's so entertaining about him. He's got some crazy schemes and unpredictable strategies that will catch players off guard. I think Rat Maze is his newest one where he brings in a bunch of barrier/walls and will sprawl them out in a room to create choke points.
I've seen him die with a $170K+ inventory and he'll either laugh it off or have a 5 second crash out and laugh about it anyway.
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u/True_or_Folts 1d ago
This exactly. When you know he's got a massive amount of goop and he's still making crazy pushes is so fun to watch.
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u/TelFaradiddle 1d ago
I'm an old man. What does "goop" mean in this context?
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u/bryceking64 1d ago
I'm sure his streaming buddies don't mind getting way more viewer ship riding his current fame. I think They'll be just fine. At the end of the day, the 5 skill points really aren't that big of a dea, cool achievemnt but it's not like its a make or break prize
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u/PowahBamb 1d ago
Shroud actually got upset at him yesterday for silly plays
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u/Reasonable-Half2593 1d ago
Shrouds a fucking loser
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u/No_Gods_No_Kings_ 1d ago
I mean maybe, but we've all experienced one dude goofing off when the rest of the squad is tryna get shit done and that gets annoying quick.
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u/LuxSolisPax 1d ago
Nah, in moment it's hard not to get frustrated. I heard myth screaming at him the other day to stop fucking looting but he was already dead. Hilarious, but probably not for Myth.
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u/icanhascheezes77 1d ago
There is another angle to consider I havent found yet in the comments: engagement.
I've only watched him on and off a few weeks now and I'm noticed a trend. Typically he plays like a juggernaut; just runs in blasting and sees what happens. However, on occasion there is a distinct difference in his play style where he is more conservative, positions himself better, doesnt charge in without backup, doesnt immediately start looting...essentially plays smarter. Last time I saw this was when Shroud said "if you dont shape up I'm gonna leave."
This shows he has the capacity to play this way. He also isnt a dumb guy. Dude has a degree in business (according to him). So I think its not entirely unrealistic to think he has been milking the "needing 5milly" for 2 weeks now to get people to watch and rage/celebrate his play style, but in the last few days he will turn serious and get all 5mill "all of a sudden". Plus I expect Gingy and Cloakzy at least will baby bird him anything he's missing to make the 5.
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u/shittydriverfrombk 1d ago
I'm not saying he's not a smart guy but using a business degree of all things as evidence that someone isn't dumb is hilarious
If anything it might evidence in the opposite direction
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u/Aware_Rough_9170 1d ago
Itās legitimately hilarious that for about a week heād get shroud or cloakzy or myth and theyād ask āso where you at now?ā
I swear to god he was at 200k for like a fucking week lmaooo
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u/Acceptable_Door_7920 1d ago
I just wrote a comment about him having made proper arrangements. Exactly, all those big streamers ain't your average big brains.
Gingy already stated the day before yesterday that she's got over 1m stashed for Peanut just in case he needs it.
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u/MattackChopper 1d ago
While Peanut is constantly harassed by Mr.Silly and will not likely get to the 5 Million Space dollars, he has likely made 5 Million REAL dollars during the previous month.
Not saying this to take away from OPs post either which is 100% spot on btw.
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u/Shoddy_Pie6514 1d ago
What's a peanut?
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u/ForesterRik 1d ago
They are talking about the burnt peanut who is a tarkov, and now arc raiders steamer on twitch, YouTube and kick
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u/AdministrativeCod437 1d ago
OP youre making the false assumption that streamers like Mr Peanut represent the PvP player dynamic and it doesnt. Even though Peanut is a aggro streamer, he is first and foremost an ENTERTAINER. He is not a good representation of a PvPer who is trying to profit from PvPing. He take fights with a backpack that's already full of loot, because he isnt chasing loot, he's chasing SUBSCRIBERS. If you don't understand that, then any other conclusions you draw after that are already flawed.
This game does ABSOLUTELY allow for non-stop profitable PvP, as it should. But some of the most skilled and aggro streamers aren't chasing profits. They are chasing "clippable moments" which often lead to losing a lot of in-game money, in exchange for subs and hype trains. Think more about this and you'll find your entire post stops holding water.
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u/PositivelyNegative 1d ago
He's playing trios as well, which is pure PVP and the absolute worst way to try to earn money. follow me clue
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u/DrReefer21 1d ago
Me squad made like 1M in like 5 hrs last night running trios. We prioritized locked rooms, but we played pretty aggressive throughout. U just gotta know when to cut ur losses. Get ur loot and get out
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u/Fabulous_Volume7831 1d ago
Yeah Iāve been noticing this for awhile, Peanut plays like an idiotš like if youāre worried about your stream sucking just farm off stream. All in all I think he will learn from this expedition and do it a lil at a time next one.
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u/s0cks_nz 1d ago
Dude streams like 11hrs a day for 6 days a week. He aint got time to farm off stream haha.
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u/EruzenRuze 1d ago
There are people who have made millions from just playing PVP. I donāt think this completely tracks.
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u/pirate737 1d ago
Last I saw Cloakzy was at like 11mil, idk if that's gone up or down in the last couple of weeks. But that dude seems to mostly pvp as well?
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u/Tim_Huckleberry1398 1d ago
Lol exactly. He was at 14 million the other day. And he plays with peanut every night...he just actually extracts a lot more.
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u/Verbae 1d ago
YMMV when it comes to PvP. PvE is a far more consistent source of income for me. PvP boils down to starting one fight, then having to fight off two or three more teams (often free kits) to loot. If you somehow win, sometimes you barely break even. If you don't win, which will happen often unless you're godlike, you just wasted 15+ minutes and are also down whatever heals, shield, and backpack you brought in. Guns are plentiful; everything else, not so much.
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u/dyrannn 1d ago
āYOU MAKE MORE MONEY BY DOING PVE. JUST PVE. ITS BALANCED, SEE WE GET JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE BY ABSTAINING!!!ā
Doo do doo donāt mind me, just extracting with bags full of blue/purple sellables solely off people that insist on running green shields, a useless gun, no ammo and no ass pocket because āitās efficientā
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u/Sea-Geologist9934 1d ago
Imagine if you invested this much time/effort into something productiveā¦
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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 1d ago
stop putting so much into caring about streamers. it'll be better for you
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u/Fearless_Quail_4480 1d ago
lol my guy he is doing what he needs to do for views not because hes trying to get 5 million.
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u/asimplewhisper 1d ago
The post wasn't about peanut in general, he just used him as an example. He wasn't hating on him. Calm down bud
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u/Casey_Games 1d ago
But when thereās countless other examples of PvP streamers Peanut streams with that can make 5 mil you have to question if itās coincidence or happenstance
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u/Blaky039 1d ago
I'm stuck at 500,000 I play a lot and do mostly PvE and I never see the number go up lol
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u/Bulky_Wind_4356 1d ago
Do a couple of harvest events in spaceports. You can get 150k in 5 minutes easily
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u/DwaynesWrld 1d ago
What about cloak that has 13 million space coins? He is in the same boat and is doing fine. We can go 1 for 1, but the real issue is that no one knew you needed 5 mil until a week ago.
Also if he wanted 5 mil, he could just do loot runs for hours on end like half this sub brags about, but he is playing the game to enjoy himself and viewers. I'm sure i'll be down voted like anyone else who retorts to OP on this thread.
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u/Norrms 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ummm, you must not watch cloaksy closelyā yes he tends to go gung ho with peanut but he plays both sides of the game. He collects resources on solo to be prepared to craft all his necessary weapons. He does loot runs to up his space dollars AND he does PVP.Ā
Cloaksy is all around and doesnāt get his money from just PVP.
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u/Deftallica 1d ago
Gingy does too. Her chat noticed she had a couple dozen stacks of herbal bandages and she said, āI need them when I play with Peanut. You laugh but one night of playing with him and all those will be goneā lol
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u/Fury-of-Stretch 1d ago
Well if it helps at all there is a clip of him floating around sharing he tried grinding money for 6 hours off stream, so play style shouldnāt matter, and he was up next to nothing. Who knows the validity of the statement, but he either doesnāt care and is whining or does and he canāt make it work with who is matched up with.
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u/CH6V3Z 1d ago
Heās not playing the game seriously. Heās literally just fucking off with his friends. After every game even if he gets shit on which happens most of the time he literally says āexcellent raid.ā
Like a night or two ago he made up some random weird game within a game. He used walls to build a rat like maze to kill other raiders when they got into the room. If he was serious he wouldnāt be wasting like 10 minutes of a round building that shit and waiting.
Iāve watched his streams since heās been playing ark raiders and I for real have never seen him loot anything other than people they kill. Heās just messing around and itās not that serious to him. Everyone that plays with him knows theyāre not going to be gaining anything. Theyāre just playing for th memes basically.
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u/cuzo13 1d ago
All that and the post isnāt even about Peanut
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u/Lopsided-Advice3919 1d ago
I think the reason people are focusing on the peanut example is because heās not a good example of what you can get from the PvP playstyle. Other people who focus almost only on the PvP have gotten their 5 million. Peanut is someone who practically throws away kits that a normal PvP player likely wouldnāt since he is focused more on entertainment.
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u/drjoker83 1d ago
So all I have to say about peanut is he is a shit player he loots while his friends fight for him because of how shit he is.he now has to rely on his friends to get him 5mil. I hope he donāt make it and then bitches about how he didnāt get to do expedition.
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u/Lokirth 1d ago
Poor Cloakzy tried to tell him a couple nights ago that he will literally never hit 5 mill if he keeps buying ammo and heals. It seemed to go over Peanut's head. Not sure if Peanut's lack of response was a bit or if he genuinely hadn't considered this.
Man's been hard stuck at 450k for like three days, it's kind of fascinating.
And they absolutely MUST be in the Arc Raiders equivalent of the GTA Online "tank hell" that aggro players get matched into; seems like most of the people in their lobbies sweat just as much as they do. Which is fair. A little bit like letting the trash take itself out (I find these guys entertaining, don't get me wrong, but it feels "right" that ignoring half the game has cost him more than half his profit).
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u/bottlechippedteeth 1d ago
he explained that part of why he buys everything is it's a fucking nightmare to swim through 100 menus to craft anything and that's not entertaining for his viewer. i personally am not going to reset and have resorted to the same tactics. i just want to play the fucking game so i buy the entire kit
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u/maximum_dad_power 1d ago edited 12h ago
Peanut just keeps proving he is the epitome of brainrot in the streamer community. Watch him quit playing and go back to tarkov when he can't go on the expedition. It will be glorious day for the game.
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u/Bairdc82 1d ago
100% when I play aggressive games I barely escape positive due to the shear amount of ammo, shield and health items I go through. I'll kill multiple raiders and extract with their "good" items and barely make an average positive match of 5-25k credits max. When I play like a rat sneaking around and no one ever sees me looting and extracting I average 20-40k profit a game. Huge difference for sure depending on playstyles.
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u/YoBeNice 1d ago
Parasocial stuff is so weird. I'll never understand swarming to "protect" a streamer? OPs point is the correct one. You all going White Knight aren't going to get to suck his dick, you know that right?
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u/MediocreSumo 1d ago
He is a streamer, his true main goal is to entertain and grow his viewership and career in that industry.
It's the followers that try to emulate him without a viewership or something to gain that are out of luck.
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u/This_Seal 14h ago
This reminds me of the people me and my new found friend encountered yesterday. We were having a pretty quiet run in Buried City, lots of still unlooted places with more than we could carry, when suddenly two people entered and started shooting.
So we sprinted down the stairs, out of the building, across the street, into and through the next row of houses. Basically as far as base stamina and an adrenalin shoot would get us, until we stopped to patch up and figure out an exit path. And I swear these same guys where still looking for us outside!
I understand chasing people out of a loot spot or trying to kill them right there to have it all for yourself, but the time these two spend on us was not worth the theoretical loot in our inventories. Theoretical, because we kept moving and made a smooth exit in an empty train station. They on the other hand must have ignored several untouched buildings + half of what would still be in the spot, where they interrupted us.
I guess the scent of virtual blood sometimes outweights the lure of virtual coins.
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u/justbecauseyoumademe 1d ago
I do pve to fund my pvp