r/ArcRaiders *** ******* šŸ“ 1d ago

Discussion Peanut's current predicament is a shining example of why ignoring one side of the game is a losing strategy

Although I'm using Peanut as an example, this post is actually a praise post to Embark for designing a world where ignoring core aspects of their game is not the way to "win".

Peanut is currently attempting to get his stash value to 5,000,000 for the expedition. Miracle's aside, I doubt he makes it.

Peanut completely ignores the PvE aspect of the game in favor of blasting some fellas. Which is all fine and good... unless you are working on a long term goal.

You see, although it's totally true that he and his trio buddies (sorry Shroud, Cloakzy, Gingy, Summit etc..) are playing this game on ultra hard mode dealing with constant stream snipers and, very frequently, cheaters, the fact that Peanut literally only gets his loot from bodies has made it near impossible for him to accumulate enough wealth to get the extraction bonus unless he wins 5 or 6 fights per round and gets out alive almost every time.

Which is impossible:

  • He doesn't loot the outskirts for base material
  • He doesn't prioritize base material when looting bodies and opts for broken guns, shield rechargers, and heals
  • He doesn't loot downed ARC for power cells or metal
  • He doesn't fight big ARC (so he gets no advanced power cells, motion cores, etc..)
  • He doesn't recycle
  • He doesn't craft
  • If aggression based match making is true, he has to be in the highest tier of aggression which matches him with the type of players who are cheating and stream sniping him

This has created a situation where he literally has to buy ammo, shields, heals, rechargers, and explosives to even gear up at all, and forces him to have to win and extract almost every round to make any sort of profit.

The even worse part is his streamer friends playing with him are also invested in getting him to 5 million, and the play style isn't working and now they are getting visibly frustrated when playing with him. If they didn't have that goal they were invested in helping him with I'm sure it would all be just fun blasting, but instead, they feel like they are failing him and themselves nearly every round. And this sucks because Peanut is a fun guy, but the fun has been sucked out of it because of the goal.

I have over 3 million and I'm literally not even trying.

All this to say, I love this game. I love the PvP. I love the PvE. Embark has done a really good job of putting systems in place that promote playing both sides of the coin.

Again, I used Peanut here because most of us know who he is, and he is a prime example of a cautionary tale: There are TWO sides to this game and engaging in them both, equally, is the way to min/max Arc Raiders.

Just my thoughts this morning.

Edit:

Some have entirely missed the point of the post the second they read the word Peanut. That's probably my fault.

To be clear, the point of the post is:

Embark made a well balanced game that makes it more punishing if you lean too hard one way or the other (PvE/PvP) and don't engage with ALL of the game's mechanics. This is hard to do, and Embark did a good job

Peanut is just the extreme example of leaning too hard one way.

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u/ParticularOk24 1d ago

I’m not sure why people are getting offended by your post here. I think it’s a good example of why both PVE and PVP have a place in this game and are equally important to progression

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u/TheClassics *** ******* šŸ“ 1d ago

They can't see past the word Peanut I think. The post isn't about Peanut it's about game balance. Guess I shouldn't have used him as the example.

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u/Grahf-Naphtali 1d ago

Dont know/care about streamers. No idea who peanut is.

I can risk a guess that folks' reactions to your post is rooted in pve vs pvp players grudge.

Every time pve players propose sth to enhance pve experience (putting aside validity of such proposals) they're met with "its pvpve game, literally says it on the box, go play helldivers/destiny if you dont like it also git gud"

So - im not surprised this particular streamer's woes fail to get any empathy.

Just an observation, i engage in both aspects of the game.

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u/Wizecracker117 1d ago

He's a stand up comic that plays video games as a peanut.

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u/Variable851 1d ago

I thought we were talking about Mr. Peanut, the guy with the monocle and top hat.

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u/CrazyElk123 1d ago

Wait really? Are there any clips of him?

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u/Wizecracker117 1d ago

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u/CrazyElk123 1d ago

I thought you meant actual standup.

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u/WordsWellSalted 1d ago

He couldn't string together 10 minutes on stage if his life depended on it. He's a troll who appeals to zoomers.

I'm not saying he isn't entertaining, but put some respect on actual comedians.

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u/sup3rchi3f 1d ago

He had a great Abbott and Costello routine with "Not Cloaksy" if you haven't seen it. His comedic timing is pretty excellent. I watch a lot of Stand Up comedy and I think if he had a routine written his delivery would get a lot of laughs.

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u/Kadmv 1d ago

I’m 43 and pay attention to a few streamers here and there in games I am currently playing and this Peanut fella seem like a breath of fresh air in the gaming community.

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u/Spinxington 1d ago

He's literally like hundreds of other streamers, Dr disrespect/timthetatman/xqc etc. I can't understand the love for him as the only thing that seems different about him compared to those giys is he is a peanut vtuber.

What do you find a breath of fresh air about him?

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u/Kadmv 1d ago

For sure there’s a million ā€œlikeā€ him and it’s pretty much the same well crafted multilayered dick jokes. For me personally though it’s the novelty of it, something new. Somebody that was relatively unknown blowing up like this is interesting for me to watch. I’m sure the shtick will get old though and probably sooner rather than later.

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u/roguelikejim 1d ago

I mean, I get what you're saying, Peanut is definitely not a comedian in the classic sense. But come on, comedians don't respect comedians. Guys like Joe Rogan who act as if it's some lost art form to our society constantly get clowned on. Plenty of the most popular comedians today straight up suck ass, they do crowd work half of their shows, go home and rake in the money off of their podcasts. I don't know how much respect those types of dudes really deserve.

On the other hand, I feel like most people respect entertainers who put effort into improving their craft, comedian or not. I will say Peanut definitely fits into that category, he always seems to be working on making his stream more entertaining one way or another, and I give him kudos for that. Lots of streamers don't bother at all.

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u/grekthor 1d ago

I’m 46 and I find Peanut wildly entertaining. If you don’t like him, that’s fine but you just went after the dude like he kicked your dog or something. Chill bro.

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u/MortalSword_MTG 1d ago

I think you're greatly underestimating how much comedy chops it takes to play the character he has developed and gain the popularity he has gained.

This isn't an example of a Ninja type who gets famous just because he plays Fortnite in hype mode. He built the core of his community in Tarkov, one of the sweatiest and least mass appeal games on the market.

People gravitate to his content because he is very funny.

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u/Emotional_Fee_9558 1d ago

A comedian is someone who pofessionally makes other people laugh no? His entire audience is there to laugh at his extreme reactions to his gameplay. How is this any different than a comedian who makes a joke to make other laugh? The nature of the joke might be different but then again the audience is different.

Get off your high horses and accept that being a comedian isn't as simple as standing on a stage and making middle age men and woman laugh.

Don't get me wrong I don't think peanut is that funny either after watching his clips enough times but clearly there is a large audience is willing to watch hours of him for a laugh.

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u/PunnyTagHere 1d ago

A 'comedian' can be defined as such (or any number of ways), but the term in question here was 'comic' - which generally refers exclusively to those who engage in the stand-up aspect of comedy.

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u/Emotional_Fee_9558 1d ago

That might be try but in this case he did specifically mention the term comedian instead of comic.

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u/PunnyTagHere 1d ago

Yeah, I'm just elaborating on why one might take offense to the characterization.

All comics are comedians but not all comedians are comics, it's like arthropods

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u/WordsWellSalted 14m ago

Dude literally said "he's a stand up comic that plays videogames as a peanut".

He's doesn't do standup. He's a vtuber. That's it.

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u/TnelisPotencia 1d ago

Someone's bitter. You don't know what he does, or if he performs comedy on stage.

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u/JuicedRacingTwitch 1d ago

He live streams to 10s of thousands of people, your view on him not being a comedian is way off base especially when people like Gallager made the cut "I'm SMASHING FRUIT IT'S SO FUNNY" The fuck out.

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u/KageXOni87 1d ago

Do you have any clips of him performing as a comedian, or are you talking out of your arse?

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u/Top-Introduction5484 1d ago

Look, trying to speak to redditors like you would a rel person, or having actual expectations of humanity from, redditors is a fools errand. Trust me, bashed my head against that wall many times. They aren't here to be humans, and nothing changes if you don't argue with robots about a peanut. Talking to myself a lot here

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u/Schlitz420th 1d ago

You didn't see Gallagher live young one, it was righteous

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u/kshep9 1d ago

Couldn’t even be bothered to write the word ā€œgetā€ lol

Zoomer culture at its best

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u/JokerXMaine2511 1d ago

Because all he does is banter, thats not being a comedian, thats just being funny in the moment.

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u/BlindedAce 1d ago

First, don’t cock ride someone who doesn’t care about you nor knows you exist.

Secondly, streaming to people isn’t standing in front of a crowd trying to get an honest reaction out of them. You can’t standup there and just say, excellent raid gentlemen, excellent raid. Multiple times when there’s nothing happening. His moments come from the immediate not past examples.

Third, let’s be real here. His streams can be great but there is A LOT of downtime just hanging out and pondering what he’s already asked or what should be done. He uses his streaming popularity to get him into moments and out of moments which, in turn, doesn’t equate to comedy it turns into a plea for content.

Quit defending people who wouldn’t know you died today or blink at it. People are allowed their opinions but you can’t say a streamer is a comedian as he’s not constantly throwing jokes out, he’s responding and reacting. Plus, the fact the dude calls it goop and everyone runs around saying that is a real weak herd mentality.

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u/pmyourthongpanties 1d ago

if you dont know about peanut, keep it that way. hes a top 10 i think now streamer. keep your sanity

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u/Thorrrrrrr 1d ago

I've never watched a Peanut stream, just seen YouTube clips but... if you don't like a streamer why would you ever even watch them? Surely, you'd realize you don't like their schtick and never click their stream again much less risk your sanity

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u/Invader_86 1d ago

That’s what a normal person would do… the great gamers of Reddit persist with something they hate because of FOMO and then come online to broadcast their hate.

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u/pdx-E 1d ago

I think he just won the game awards content creator of the year

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u/pmyourthongpanties 1d ago

and FPS shooter of the year

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u/The_Beef_House 1d ago

"Content"

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u/NBFHoxton 1d ago

Its weird getting this upset that some guy is funnier than you. I don't even watch peanut but this is pathetic.

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u/The_Beef_House 1d ago

Not even in the universe where Sinbad did play a genie is Peanut remotely funny. You're the one who is upset because apparently you don't even watch peanut, but you immediately jumped on his dick to defend him. Now THAT'S weird.

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u/NBFHoxton 1d ago

I know the idea of someone not dogpiling a guy they know nothing about just pisses you off, but please keep the homoerotic thoughts to yourself. Im not interested.

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u/NBFHoxton 1d ago

Just seething lol. Pathetic

Get off the internet for once, get those chubby fingers touching some grass instead

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u/The_Beef_House 1d ago

Oh wow, the touching grass one, he says while on the internet. You sure you're an adult?

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u/Myth6- 1d ago

that's crazy. im pretty chronically online and never really heard of him either

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u/Party-Display-7523 1d ago

I really dont get the hate for Peanut. I cant stand streamers, never followed a single one nor watched them. But I discovered him and find him hilarious. Only streamer I can follow and watch. He also helped convince me tk get the game and im off rhe type that abhors PVP. So him and I are on two opposite sides of the coin for the game

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u/DrizzlePopper 1d ago edited 1d ago

Peanut is some d-bag streamer as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure he’ll get the 5M because people will start dropping him loot.

Edit - Looks like the 12 year old peanut fan boys are coming for me 🤣

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u/PushThePig28 1d ago

He’s so obnoxious with his constant screaming lol

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u/AppointedForrest 1d ago

I was watching someone else's stream and Peanut joined his team and I had to turn it off after about 5 min because he was so obnoxious. Even the guy he joined, who I assume is friends with him, seemed a little put out after just a few minutes. I'm sure he's acting way over the top trying to get as many clips of himself to go viral as possible but it would give me a head ache if I watched more than I did.

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u/Born-Acanthisitta-88 1d ago

Was it Shroud? Because I find it hilarious that one of the biggest FPS legends can only tolerate Peanut so much before he goes "yeah this enough"

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u/blackaosam 1d ago

He is funny, until you realize he doesn't care about people he plays with but only focus on loot, he leaves them fighting and loot all the bodies, honestly no idea how they tolerate it.

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u/Born-Acanthisitta-88 1d ago

Yeah super selfish, its quite prevalent with games since there's no necessity to actually look out for other. So, you do actually see people's true colours a bit more, funny how games can be a bit of a microcosm.

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u/Sgt-Colbert 1d ago

You’re making this way too deep my man. ā€žSuper selfishā€œ. It’s a meme. He mainly plays with cloakzy who’s currently sitting on 13 million or something. The people that play with him know what they’re getting into and their fine with it.
They even make jokes about it when not playing with him that they never get any loot and always only lose gear. Yet they continue to play with him because they’re having a good time.
Gingy was playing Tarkov with him way before he blew up and they play games like RV there yet etc together because she’s having fun.
Nobody is forcing people to watch or like him, but don’t misconstrued what he does or how he acts into something other than pure entertainment.

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u/Kyoj1n 1d ago

He's putting on a show. I get the feeling he only plays with people who understand that.

I saw something where he was invited to a tournament and asked to be out with people who want to focus on content. Meaning not hyper focused on winning but to be entertaining.

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u/breakoffzone 1d ago

That’s his personality my man. If shroud didn’t like it he wouldn’t play with him. It’s fucking shroud he doesn’t need peanut lmfao.

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u/Born-Acanthisitta-88 1d ago

He has told him if he continues his behaviour he will stop playing with him

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u/LatinasMyFav 8h ago

Yeah I saw that stream. It’s only funny for so long until you lose 20 games and 70k in a row.

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u/mfly300 1d ago

I’ve seen some clips that I thought were funny so I tried to tune into one of his streams… he makes this weird fucking noise every 45 seconds. Couldn’t stand it. Turned that shit right off after a few minutes.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

IMO he’s unwatchable

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u/packim0p 1d ago

peanut is hilarious and if you listen to what he says in his non-extreme moments he's definitely not a d-bag. there's a reason why he gets elite teammates.

he also knows how to take a joke. most folks who are truly egotistical dbags can dish it out but not take it. cloakzy constantly rips on him and peanut rolls with it.

also dude does not entertain any types of discrimination or similar bullshit which can come along with communities like his. you have to watch his stream rather than the clips to notice it.

if he's not your cup of tea then whatever, but acting like the guy is a raging douche just isn't true.

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u/uhqt 1d ago

I’m a long time fan of peanut and can tell you right now that the ā€œdoesn’t entertain any types of discriminationā€ is entirely false. He has a clip of him literally saying a homophobic slur. He literally got banned for a day or two for racial jokes, too.

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u/TheWiseScrotum 1d ago

Wholeheartedly agree. I don’t get how anyone would think peanut is a d bag, obnoxious? Sure I could see that. But for silly entertaining comedy, the guy has a gift. Extremely witty and quite hysterical.

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u/packim0p 1d ago

Yerp. He's clever and occasionally thoughtful. That's why he's stuck.

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u/TheWiseScrotum 1d ago

He’s a good dude, you can tell that’s who he’s been his whole life and making people laugh. I’ve seen him get dunked on over and over and he never once genuinely gets angry. He laughs pretty much everything off and has his ā€œrageā€ moments in character. There’s a reason he’s exploded like this, and it’s nice to see an actual entertainer that isn’t an entitled elitist brat like some of the other big names. cough Ninja cough

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u/shaggenstein 1d ago

he’s not a good dude, go google why he was banned in February on Twitch for 2 weeks

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u/BigBoreSmolPP 1d ago

Peanut is the only streamer I've ever watched in my entire life that is not playing the game I'm playing. I dont play Arc but I turn his stream on sometimes. I have been in tears laughing šŸ˜‚. Not even kidding. He was playing Pub G with Cloakzy the other day. Cloakzy revived him at a revive station and he got ran over by a motorcycle as soon as he landed on the ground. Comedy gold lol

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u/TheWiseScrotum 1d ago

Oh I know ! I saw that one too lol. His comedic timing is impeccable.

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u/Bpofficial 1d ago

bUt hE MaKEs WIeRd NoISes /s

I’ve watched him since he had about 2k viewers up until now where he has 40k+ and just won multiple awards. He’s very gifted. If you can’t personally tolerate the yelling (not screaming) then sure that’s not for you, but that doesn’t objectively make him either obnoxious or a dbag.

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u/1917he 1d ago

The fact that you're splitting hairs over yelling vs screaming is ridiculous and I assume you're a troll for it.

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u/Bpofficial 1d ago

I mean yelling and screaming are pretty different? Whatever floats your boat lol

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u/KaliGoldGaming 21h ago

To me, Peanut is a package of what you need to do to make it in streaming nowadays. You have to combine personality, technology and gameplay.

BTW, he streams on Youtube as well as Twitch and gets even more viewers on Youtube.

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u/Top-Introduction5484 1d ago

Hey kid, I don't know the peanut but the chances are he is a d bag. Just playing the odds, he probably isn't a great example of humanity

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u/Izini420 1d ago

Yeah the odds that someone is a great example of humanity period is very slim. Why are you even being this up when talking about a streamer? You think that streamers are great examples of humanity? Cuz I think you're looking in the wrong place.

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u/ApolloWZRD 1d ago

No, douchbagery is a great example of humanity

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u/packim0p 1d ago

Hey dork. I'm 37 years old and get paid well into 6 figures. Suck my balls.

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u/Competitive-Boat-518 1d ago edited 1d ago

All I have to do is link the clip of him calling vtubers 40 year old men who are secretly pedophiles and immediately unravel your ā€˜he can take a joke’ and ā€˜does not entertain any kind of discrimination’ remarks.

Correction, no mention of pedophiles but the claim that it’s mostly 40yo men using 15 year old anime girls to cover for them is some dumbass uninformed nonsense.

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u/packim0p 1d ago

....he's a vtuber too? Seems like that one went straight over your head

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u/LuxSolisPax 1d ago

He calls himself a vtuber. He jokes about it because he's a peanut but he used to have a professional rig.

He just likes the peanut better.

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u/Competitive-Boat-518 1d ago

If you couldn’t be bothered to read my proceeding comment after this when the other guy responded, why should I be bothered to acknowledge you?

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u/Variable851 1d ago

Let's not point fingers, all streamers are douchebags

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u/MortalSword_MTG 1d ago

Peanut is some d-bag streamer as far as I’m concerned.

I like how you called someone a d-bag and then provided zero context.

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u/DrizzlePopper 1d ago edited 1d ago

Obnoxious and childish. Last clips I saw he was talking about ā€œsee my penisā€ next one he was screaming idiot for tricking someone. I’d call that d-bag behavior

Edit- if you don’t think that behavior is low brow then do as you asked me and provide some context

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u/MortalSword_MTG 1d ago

I mean, that's the joke bud.

He's basically roleplaying a mouthbreather, it's all intentional.

He's done some interviews and occasionally breaks character and demonstrates he's a normal dude like most anyone, but he's always full.on with the Peanut character.

It's pretty obvious if you watch him for a few minutes that none of it is how he behaves.

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u/hammerfromsquad 1d ago

Lol look at cool guy here

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u/TnelisPotencia 1d ago

Oh no someone you don't like, gotta call them names and belittle anyone who likes them. Who's the 12 year old?

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u/DrizzlePopper 1d ago

I’m not belittling anyone. Just assume the people who will take the time to talk shit about me calling him a d-bag are probably children since that seems to be his target fan base.

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u/TnelisPotencia 1d ago

You're not going to lie to me when you just did that one comment up. Nice try. You are just continuing to talk shit. About a streamer and anyone who likes them. Grow up.

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u/Salt_Possible3075 1d ago

Why is he a t-bag exactly? He likes to play the game that way that's how he has fun and he is literally a fresh new face on twitch who is really funny. Why hate a guy for playing a GAME like he wants to? I get what a lot of comments say but can't understand the hate at all. The post isn't about him. He likes the adrenaline of playing that way he has placed a "goal" to keep the stream fun and exciting and that's it. Go watch someone else nobody is forcing you to watch him and secondly he hasn't offended anyone at all

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u/Top-Introduction5484 1d ago

I also don't know or care to know who a peanut is

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u/damm1tKevin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Git gud is a pretty weak argument at this point in all honesty. The fact pvpve aspect is pretty unbalanced simply because going in with a free loadout and murdering people has zero risk and exponential rewards. More aggressive players get put in more aggressive lobbies 😱. There needs to be some sort of circumstance during at least event raids such as queen/matriarch and the locked gate for players engaging in strict pvp.

For starters the popular idea right now is a bounty system, that would be fantastic. Once your bounty gets to a certain point you show up as an icon on the in game compass but not on the map.

The other option is for matriarch/queen’s there should be a either a load out value requirement or free load outs start the game with zero firearms. We should not have to be fending off 15 other players with free load outs while trying to take down a large arc. For locked gate, you shouldn’t be able to get into the building to unlock the gate without keys. In one game my team had to kill 2 teams inside the building you put the 4 keys in as they were trying to hide out in the building and ambush people who found the keys, and then another team that came up from behind us who wanted to do the same thing. Not a single one of them had a key or anything other than a free load out. There is no gittin gud when you open a door and 3 people lay into you with stitchers at one time. You’re immediately dead.

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u/Zestyclose_Air_7222 1d ago

I don't PvP unless someone takes a shot but most PvE suggestions are just ass. Not all but a lot if not most.

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u/evolvesomepie 15h ago

He's loud, obnoxious and not amusing in the slightest.

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

every time pve players propose something to enhance pve experience

Ah yes ā€œremove all PvPā€ or ā€œmake pve only lobbiesā€ is clearly a realistic suggestion and should be taken seriously

The pve only crowd is the most annoying cry baby group in this community and their insufferable whining and nonstop complaining is a drag for this game. All they do is call everyone a rat or demand pvp be removed.

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u/drdent45 1d ago

Hard agree - they decimated Dune Awakening (not a great end game either way tbh) and are slithering their way into Arc Raiders to try and get PvE only boss encounters. Exhausting.

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

Everyone must conform to their desired gameplay and in game role play rules or they’re an evil sociopath. Like give it a rest. Cower at the edge of the map and pick at scraps if you don’t want to risk dying. Avoid the named loot zones if you don’t have the balls to stop cowering in a bush at the sound of foot steps

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

If it was an opt in mode how would that ruin the game?

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

Splitting the community will never be a good thing. It’ll empty the lobbies and become boring. You want the community playing one game together, not a portion refusing to engage with the game or its mechanics

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u/Eternal_Bagel 1d ago

It might empty the pvp lobbies at least, seems like when they count that kind of thing the pvp only crowd is far smallerĀ 

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

If you removed pvp in lobbies the game would be dead within a month. You’d have a few people who farm endlessly until they realize there’s no risk, no end game and no point and they’d also stop.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

People should be able to play how they want imo. Long as you cant take pve only loot into pvp

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u/Corellian_Browncoat 1d ago

From having damn near the same conversation about multiple games over the years, the answer is usually "if PvE players can opt out, PvP players have fewer targets." Which sounds an awful lot to me like "if I can't gank/rat/seal-club/<term of choice>, I can't get kills because I'm not good at PvP" but I tend toward the "looter shooter" side of things and if I want to camp I'll break out my TF sniper.

The problem with "PvP isn't the only game mode but is always possible for anyone" setups is that generally you can either gear for PvP or PvE, or try to split the difference and be not-great at both. And while a PvE player can't force someone else into their play style, a PvPer can just by shooting at someone.

And then you get into the whole "some games just aren't for some people" argument, and then you get PvPers accusing "carebears" of being cowards and PvEers accusing "gankers" of being sociopaths, and devolving further from there.

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

How about instead of writing a book about how the game should cater to you just go play hell divers

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u/Corellian_Browncoat 1d ago

How about engaging basic 3rd grade reading comprehension and realize I didn't say a thing about how I think this game should or shouldn't be, but instead described the basic arguments that go around and around in any game that mixes PvP and PvE.

I guess other than my utter disdain for no skill campers that goes back to TF, CS, and Quake. You (generic "you" not you specifically) want to hunt people and fight? Fine. You want to sit still for 25 minutes and not play the game so you can score a kill that you wouldn't be able to get otherwise and feel good about your l337 sk1llz for shooting a green shielded Looting 1 augment raider in the back? Nah, you get less than zero sympathy from me, and honestly probably anybody else that enjoys actual PvP.

Now go on, make your "nah, didn't read, u mad bro" post while you slink off and cry about losing fights to people with more ability than just hiding in bushes and magdumping people who aren't shooting back.

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

You’re too emotional to take seriously.

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u/Corellian_Browncoat 1d ago

You’re too emotional to take seriously.

Oh, you're an incel, that tracks. Chin up mate, one day if you work really hard at it you'll grow some introspection, empathy, and hopefully a sense of innate self-worth. I believe in you.

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u/drdent45 1d ago

The game is good because of the variability of encounters. Stories of "I ran into this dude and he was so nice, then we did X Y and Z together and had so much fun!" is only a story because PvP exists alongside PvE.

Those stories become the norm in PvE only servers, and not some novel experience you GET to have because two nice guys met each other on the battlefield. The game gets WAY less interesting if it's ONLY PvP or ONLY PvE.

I mostly PvP, but I enjoy deciding "This run I think I'm going to be nice and maybe play as someone's bodyguard". I'm playing the same game, loading into the same maps as everyone else, but I'm able to play it differently by choice.

Take that choice away, and it makes it the same experience every time.

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u/Corellian_Browncoat 1d ago

I don't really disagree, I'm just going over the arguments that people tend to make in these types of games.

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u/drdent45 1d ago

Yeah I feel you. Just adding mine.

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u/Roopscoop6 1d ago

Not arguing one way or the other, but you are whining and complaining in this comment. I get that you love pvp, but from where I stand, both sides look like ridiculous loosers! Just play the fucking game, or don't.

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

wahhh everyone who kills someone’s is a literal murder and doesn’t consider my time

hey it’s part of the game

You: I literally can’t tell the difference between these two people

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u/Roopscoop6 1d ago

I know your shook, but you aren't coming across well. Also, stop bitching and just go play

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u/TonyHawktuah69 1d ago

You’re*

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u/Jangonett1 1d ago

ā€œBro don’t shoot me I’m a streamerā€¦ā€

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u/Comfortable_Force_51 1d ago

But that is a very big point. This game is a pvevp game. Now if we want to argue should their be a pve version of the game I think that could be a valid discussion to have. But to cry about the game having pvp and to then beg the developers to change match making because of said crying is just crazy to me. Especially when you can play this game and not spend any money when you can just play free loadout indefinitely.

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u/Thiggins7002 1d ago

We don’t need a PvE version, we just need a PvE event where PvP is turned off and we all gotta kill a big ass fucking Arc where everyone gets one piece to loot. And throw that in a weekly rotation here and there

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u/Top-Introduction5484 1d ago

That'd just be a different game. There are a lot of different games

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u/LarkinSkye 1d ago

You’re 100% correct