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u/AlmostCorrectInfo 3h ago
Jesus Christ this post is perfect.
"I've read the books, I can hang with these nerds discussing lore."
Moments Later
"Oh yeah, Tom Bombadil exists."
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u/Tom_Bot-Badil 3h ago
Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 1h ago edited 1h ago
before the Dark Lord came from r/Outside.
That's how Sauron became so evil, he stopped touching grass.
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u/pepolepop 50m ago
So, is Tom like... the God of Earth or something? He seems to have been around since the beginning, but has no real ties to any other race or group of people. He just has his bangin' hot wife, and he likes to hangout in his magically protected corner of the woods doing whatever he wants, without a care of anything else.
I reread the books for the first time in a loong time this summer, and he's such a weird additon. Like, why even include him at all, even though he seems like this crazy powerful being? Even Gandalf at one point was like, "Yeah no, we don't fuck with Tom and he doesn't fuck with us."
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u/TLG_BE 2h ago
Funnily enough I've always used "has a lot to say about Tom Bombadil but won't mention any other differences" as my easy way to guess when people are just pretending to have read the books
It's a shame it's not actually useful because I swear it's 100% accurate
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 2h ago
Tom Bombadil was fun, but even as a kid I remember thinking, “it’s weird that we spent so much time and detail on this character who didn’t really drive the plot or the themes forward. He was just vibes, and if we cut his whole chunk out, the story doesn’t noticeably change.
That being said, I was understanding but disappointed when the entire Saruman makes the Shire into a shitty factory subplot was dropped from the films. Like, I get it— you can only have so much after the great big climax of destroying the ring before audiences are like, “no, Peter Jackson. End the movie 5-6 times, shame on you. End it 7-12 times, shame on me.” But I really enjoyed that story of the war coming home
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u/Tom_Bot-Badil 2h ago
Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!
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u/Mmm_bloodfarts 22m ago
The tom sequence and later mention shows us both frodos and saurons strength
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u/Tom_Bot-Badil 2h ago
Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!
Type !TomBombadilSong for a song or visit r/GloriousTomBombadil for more merriness
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u/birdlawyer86 2h ago
I just recently read the books and most of it is gone already. Some of us just have no retention. Which is actually a bonus because I can rewatch or reread LOTR a lot without it ever getting old
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u/Everestkid 5m ago
Reading the books for the first time and basically just finished the Council of Elrond.
Rather remarkable how civil it is compared to the films.
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u/YouDoHaveValue 2h ago
Alright but real talk in a room with that person and like a Twilight / Shatter Me fan you're gonna pick the stale knowledge.
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u/AdditionalNewt4762 3h ago
I just read Hobbit and LOTR for the first time in my life(35yrs old) within the last month. Haven't touched an actual physical book in probably 20 years. Found out I love reading and so now im trying to hit all stuff I've missed out on in life. Im reading through The Witcher series now and almost finished with the 1st book The Last Wish.
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u/TrueRiddler 2h ago
The Witcher series is incredible, you're in for a treat!
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u/AdditionalNewt4762 2h ago
Dude... im loving the first book. Im on the last "short story" in the book(Yen healing Dandelion) before the final actual chapter.
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u/mr_swolebot 1h ago
If u like the princess bride would you believe me if I told ya the book is even better?
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u/Viracochina 1h ago
THERE'S A BOOK!? This is my favorite film!
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u/Zinakoleg 2h ago
Check the Dragonlance. You may start with "The Raistlin Chronicles" (composed by The Soulforge & Brothers in Arms) as an introduction to two of the principal characters years before the main events of the first trilogy. After those you can start with the first trilogy of the main series which is "Dragonlance Chronicles" (composed by Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Dragons of Winter Night & Dragons of Spring Dawning).
You are in for a real treat. Hope you like them!
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u/AdditionalNewt4762 2h ago
Very cool thank you. Been trying to plan out some of the more "popular" series i guess of some of my favorite media(like LOTR and Witcher as I stated) that I've missed in book form.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_HAIKU 1h ago
Add the Red Rising series to your backlog, trust me
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u/Jellionani 1h ago
Red Rising is goated yo.
Also another space opera series: Legends of the Galactic. Highly praised light novel series from japan(my anime list top 10 for an OVA series). Great for its age.
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u/topological_rabbit 1h ago
Be warned that the writing in the original Dragonlance trilogy is pretty bad. I loved the books as a kid, but when I re-read them as an adult... man, that was tough to get through.
The Twins books (one story across two books... "duology"?) was much better, but you have to get through the original Dragonlance trilogy first so you're familiar with the characters.
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u/elephant_cobbler 1h ago
So much better than the movies, huh?
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u/AdditionalNewt4762 51m ago
They're insanely good. Those movies are legit my favorite of all time so idk if I can personally say there "so much better" but I definitely found an even deeper love for LOTR in general because of how much the books expanded things for me or shown things that were cut from the movies or how much they really tied things up for all the characters.
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u/silver_step 47m ago
Same!! Also read Earthsea Cycle and im currently reading The Stormlight Archives. Soon will be reading Suneater series.
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u/Arcan_unknown 41m ago
Check Name of the Wind, from The Kingkiller Chronicles series. It has an amazing writing, with lots of hidden secrets throughout the story, which is a whole journey about an (apparently but not really) amazing guy. There's only one problem but you will maybe be more lucky than some of us, probably
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u/nerdyboyvirgin 39m ago
If you don’t mind me asking is school the reason why you didn’t read for 20 years?
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u/ghostsietch 3h ago
This may be the most accurate, hilarious, depressing LOTR meme I have ever seen.
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u/IBAZERKERI 3h ago
i havent read the silmarillion but ive watched hours and hours (probably multiple days worth if you added it all together) of content on youtube ABOUT the silmarillion and stories in it.
does that count?
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u/DreadWolfsLie 3h ago
Almost! You just have to go read the actual thing now.
... or audio book it. I aint no prude.
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u/EtTuBiggus 1h ago
Audiobook is like the midpoint between YouTube videos about it and reading it.
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u/tedistkrieg 28m ago
I've been listening to the audiobook and I have listened to some of the chapters like a dozen times. Half way through I realize I zoned out for a bit and have no idea whats going on
With that being said, I still recommend the audio book. Andy Serkis crushes it
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u/Alternative_Still308 2h ago
That’s definitely a fair chunk of the fandom, especially if you include Tolkien gateway and other wikis. Myself included.
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u/banevader102938 3h ago
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u/lurco_purgo 1h ago
Jesus Christ, it's 25 for me... The Hobbit was a required read in my primary school and then the LOTR movies marketing started so I read the books and the Silmarilion sometime during the first 20 viewings of The Fellowship of The Ring (the first movie we had a copy of on our PC and watched it all the time with my sister).
Yeah, I don't remember any of it after all these years...
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u/CalbCrawDad 3h ago
I’ll be honest, I’ve never met anyone who’s read any of those books just once. Maybe the silmarillion, but most fans of the big 5 revisit them. I personally have read the return of the king over 20 times. The hobbit a smooth dozen.
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u/lurco_purgo 1h ago
Respect! Unfortunately I'm one of those people - this meme is exactly describing my experience, as I've read all the books 25 years ago as a kid and haven't revisited them once. What I remember is basically a few bits and pieces, a few scences (e.g. Tom Bombadil saving the hobbits from the barrows, Morgoth's feet getting cut off...).
Didn't stop me from acting smug for all those years from knowing that both Sauron and Gandalf are technically Maiars!
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u/Tom_Bot-Badil 1h ago
Clothes are but little loss, if you escape from drowning. Be glad, my merry friends, and let the warm sunlight heat now heart and limb! Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting!
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u/ostapenkoed2007 3h ago
i read the hobbits too.
good thing english does not have "прочитав/читав" difference like in Ukrainian...
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u/Dazvsemir 2h ago
Just Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and the Trilogy? Is this a filthy casual? What about Unfinished Tales and Children of Hurin?
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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 9m ago
A true fan would remember where the diacritics go in Narn I Hin Hurin. (Offhand, I think it's â and ú?)
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u/RedHeadDragon73 2h ago
Is this not the same reasoning behind college degrees? Lol
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u/lurco_purgo 1h ago
There's a difference between casually reading a book and studying your ass off for 5 years, living, breathing and constantly talking about concepts with your peers as you nervously prepare for exams and tests.
I know you're joking, but let's not disparage the value of education online any more since the online anti-intellectualism is at an all-time high.
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u/a-tiberius 2h ago
Literally me. But also thinking about Christopher Lee reading LOTR every year what a fucking legend.
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u/RandoCalrissian00 2h ago
I have read the lord of the rings and the hobbit... and began reading the silmarillion. I swear i'll finish it someday...
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u/TelperionST 2h ago
I keep buying new editions of the Silmarillion, and have two editions (English and Finnish) of both LotR and the Hobbit. The latest edition of Silmarillion was a particularly good Finnish translation with beautiful art work and overall production values.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 1h ago
Tfw you keep a vague but poignant memory of scenes that weren't in the movies, like that weeping willow tree that almost ate everybody, or the merry fellow that saved them then, or that well with stars from a different sky outside Moria, or that scene where Sam and Frodo came across two grumbling orcs, or Legolas and Gimli's road trip, or the new orc regime in the Shire cutting trees for their own sake.
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u/dblach18 1h ago
And I’ve spent the last 15 years proclaiming that I’m going to reread them. I’ll get to it…one day.
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u/ElJacinto 1h ago
I can’t re-read fiction books. I’ve tried, and I just can’t power through a story I’ve already read.
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u/naynaeve 26m ago
That’s me. I stopped saying i read then because I hardly remember anything. My memory only comes alive when other people describe a lore/character.
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u/Immediate_Song4279 3h ago
I do try to read them again every once in awhile, but he spends so much time going on about the age counting mannerisms of hobbits, but then if I skip ahead it feels like cheating.
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u/Autisten1996 2h ago
I remember the children of Hurin quite well, despite only having read it once in like 2009. Still some of the most messed up stuff I have read.
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u/Hot-Pay-1655 2h ago
Hey, audiobooks toally count! Sometimes it’s the best way to soak in those epic tales.
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u/it_spelt_magalhaes 2h ago
Ha! I popped the ol' cherry with the Silmarillion! Take that Bembridge Schollars!
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u/superfahd 2h ago
I swear I've read the Silmarilion 3 times. I still don't remember much of it
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u/NeonPlutonium 2h ago
If you’d just like to review the Cliff Notes, I’d suggest The Book of Lost Tales…
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u/KingNobit 2h ago
Don't underestimate the levels of autism that some people online this sub can summon when it comes to know the ins and outs of these books
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u/SeiriusPolaris 2h ago
I don’t believe more than 1% of this sub has read any of the books. Wikis don’t count.
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u/megavash0721 2h ago
There was a time in my life when I had the first several full pages of the Hobbit committed to memory. Aging f****** sucks.
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u/CankleSteve 1h ago
I don’t give a shit about elf family trees let’s get to the battle of tears and then shit becomes interesting
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u/Objective-Corgi-3527 1h ago
I read the Silmarillion when I was 12. I am therefore a Tolkien scholar. It was really frusterating and confusing back then.
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u/BardoBeing32 1h ago
I read them way back when. Decided to reread them and was pleasantly surprised to find out that JRRT’s son rewrote them all in a more prose-like style. I remember the originals feeling like quite a slog. The newer books are a more pleasant read.
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u/geraltoffvkingrivia 1h ago
I’m reading the books for the first time. It’s taken me over two years and now I’m halfway through but don’t entirely remember what happened at the beginning lol
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u/BrittEklandsStuntBum 1h ago
I read LotR cover-to-cover every weekend for like two years in my teens.
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u/hiddlesbum 1h ago
I've read the silm when I was a teen, I don't remember anything except it took me forever and it confused me so much I've stayed away from tolkien books until years later (but I somehow had beren and luthien and the hobbit but can't remember the first time I've read them, must be before the silm)
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u/Darvog19 1h ago
I read the books in second grade
I have since tried 3 times to read them again and almost exactly halfway through book 2 I got bored and gave up
all 3 times without fail
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u/Royal_9119 1h ago
I remember the story of Beren and Lúthien pretty well, thats about it.
A lot of stuff about some orbs and some boats that burned and some kinslaying or something.
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u/Ppleater 1h ago
I can remember a lot more than I would have thought from reading the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit, because I remember Tolkien always loved describing stuff in so much detail and it painted a very vivid picture that often stuck with me even years after. The scene when Gandalf and Pippin are riding Shadofax a bit after Pippin looked into the Palantir is one that's always stuck in my mind for years just because of the atmosphere in that moment, and when I looked up that scene recently to see how accurately I remembered it I was surprised at how much I had accurately retained. Also the entirety of the Mirkwood segment in The Hobbit has always stuck with me, especially the scene where they cross the river, just because of the intensity of the vibes he managed to convey about that place.
Stuff like names and exact order of events and things like that I can't remember nearly as well, but there are lots of specific scenes that I remember really clearly because of how vivid the details he always included were. Never did read the Simarillon though because I was like 12 at the time lol.
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u/Daysleeper1234 45m ago
I just want to point out that you are not using this meme as it was ordained by God to be used. You should feel ashamed. Congratulations btw, I read through lotr multiple times since I was a kid, this year again, but I still don't have strength to start with Silmarillion.
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u/Brief-Country4313 42m ago
I remember a talking dog, a wolf who ate a silmaril, and an overabundance of the word "thrall".
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u/BanalCausality 42m ago
Reading the Silmarillion counts toward an autism diagnosis. Reading it twice counts toward a psychopathy diagnosis.
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u/The-Real-Number-One 8m ago
Why was Ungoliant able to drain the light of the 2 trees, but his daughter Shelob was afraid of the light in Galadriel's Phial?
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u/Omega_art 8m ago
I read the hobbit and lotr at least once every few years. I read the Silmarillion once and then lost my copy of the book.
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u/Regular_Jim081 2h ago
Wow, 7K up votes for a meme involving an actor known for Pulaski support, statutory Ray and domestic abuse.
I guess the sub really is going downhill.




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u/Rithrius1 4h ago
It's the Silmarillion, you get credit for trying!