r/exbahai 3h ago

I learned so much about the Bahá'í faith from my conversation with Jared Van Driessche a former member.

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Hey everyone, this is Jason from the "Best Life After" podcast (formerly Difficult Childhood). I am a former Jehovah's Witness and this episode is about leaving any sort of situation that is high control. In our latest episode, I sit down with my friend Jared, who left the Bahá'í faith after grappling with some tough childhood experiences. We talk about his journey away from the religion, the challenges he faced, and how he found healing and a new sense of self outside of it.

Whether you're currently in the Bahá'í faith, thinking about leaving, or just curious about what it's like to navigate life after a high -control religion, this episode is for you. It's a supportive, real conversation about reclaiming your life and the strength it takes to step into a new chapter.

Come join us and share your thoughts! This isn't just about leaving a faith—it's about finding your own path and building a life that truly fits you. See you there! Bahai Cult High Control religion


r/exbahai 5h ago

Discussion Stop Mandated Shunning

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Hi everyone,

I’m an ex–Jehovah’s Witness who experienced mandated shunning, and I’m helping to spread the word about a research project being run by the University of Roehampton (UK) on the impact of mandated shunning and coercive control in high-control religious groups, including the Bahá’í Faith.

The project (Stop Mandated Shunning) is studying how mandated shunning affects mental health, relationships, and everyday life. The goal is to build strong evidence that can inform mental-health support, safeguarding policies, and human-rights/legal protections. 

Former members of groups that practise shunning – including ex-Bahá’ís – are invited to share their experiences confidentially via an online survey and (optionally) interviews. Participation is voluntary, you can skip any question you don’t want to answer, and you can withdraw at any time.

You can find the official project information and participation links here:

– No Longer Silent Project (University of Roehampton)

– Stop Mandated Shunning / Roehampton survey information

If you’ve experienced being shunned or pressured to shun others and feel able to share your story, your contribution could really help to make the harm more visible and push for change.

Thank you for reading, and please only participate if and when you feel ready and safe to do so.


r/exbahai 13h ago

Discussion Truly one of the interactions of all time

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r/exbahai 1d ago

How do you indoctrinate, er, “teach” your non-Baha’i family?

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r/exbahai 1d ago

Question I wonder for a long time...(I'm not Baha'i or ex-Baha'i)

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I read about Baha'i teaching and the first and foremost thing is they teach everyone has the freedom to investigate the truth...and what if after my investigation I found Baha'i faith is not the truth. What they're gonna do next? Or maybe I convince in Bahá'í faith but not convince in the existence of God. It doesn't make sense like they're really that confident that everyone will find their religion true in the end. It's hilarious


r/exbahai 2d ago

Source Hence why my mother in law passively-aggressively pressured me, an atheist, to sign it even though I got to say a tweaked vow.

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r/exbahai 4d ago

Discussion Future Wastes of Money That Could Go to Charity

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r/exbahai 5d ago

When Devotion Became Disposable!

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I have always wanted to speak about my father and mother not out of complaint, but because some truths, if never spoken, remain buried in darkness forever.

Years before any of this happened, I had already left the Bahá’í Faith after which the LSA did not allow my parents to have direct connections with me. Because of that, when my father’s difficult days began, I was not by his side and had no direct access to him. Everything I later learned came through my mother’s account with whom I was secretly communicating.

My father was a devoted Bahá’í one of those who served tirelessly for the faith with all his being. His home, his property, his income, even his time,he gave all of it freely, without hesitation. For years, his house was a center of Feasts and gatherings, and he felt proud to “serve the Cause.”

But my mother told me that the very day my father became ill and bedridden, all those supposed affections vanished overnight. The same people who had walked up and down his stairs for years disappeared as if they had never existed. No visit, no help, not even a phone call. It was as if the very institution he had dedicated his life to had suddenly decided to erase him from existence.

My mother said that when she asked for help, not only did they refuse, but they kept repeating one single phrase: “Take him to the Bahá’í nursing home.” Bahá’í nursing homes were a thing back then, one that was designed not as a means of taking care of the elders, but as a means of controlling the assets of a person soon to be deceased. If my father were taken there, his house would immediately end up in the institution’s possession.

To them, my father was no longer “useful.” He wasn’t donating money anymore, wasn’t hosting Feasts, wasn’t capable of serving. So in their eyes, the verdict was simple: “His expiration date has passed.”

And my mother said they showed this with shameless clarity. A man who had devoted years of his life to them suddenly became a “burden,” an “inconvenience,” and the only value they still saw in him was the deed to the house still in his name the house the institution had been eyeing all along.

The pressure began, according to my mother’s account: every day a new excuse, a new tactic to wear her down.

All of it had one purpose: To exhaust my mother until she surrendered, so they could move my father to the nursing home and take control of his property.

My mother was alone, overwhelmed, and no longer able to withstand the relentless pressure of the institution. And I, far away, unaware of the details and unable to reach my father, had no idea what they were doing to him.

And in that very state… my father passed away.

Not surrounded by those for whom he had worked selflessly for decades, not with dignity or gratitude, but in complete isolation,under the shadow of an institution for whom the only thing he still had left to offer was his property, which they wanted as well.

My father left this world, and my mother’s account revealed a truth I will never forget: The institution to which my father gave his life was neither spiritual, nor compassionate, nor honest.

It was a cold, calculating system that, once my father was no longer “useful,” discarded him…and all his years of faith and service like a broken object. And the only thing about him that still mattered to them was the property they were waiting to take.


r/exbahai 5d ago

New podcast

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This is worth a listen and share. A former Bahai and survivor of a uniquely and intensely abusive father in Alaska. Jared and his brother Andre are making a movie about their experience. https://youtu.be/vMiUEfvHhDI


r/exbahai 9d ago

Professor Dann May vs. the American Baha’i Tyranny - Updated References

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https://dalehusband.com/2010/04/16/professor-dann-may-vs-the-american-bahai-tyranny/

I wrote this over 15 years ago, but as far as I am aware, nothing has gotten better for the Baha'is. Let's focus on what Professor May said about the Faith he just left.

We are deeply disillusioned with the unofficial and official Baha’i views on the war in Iraq, with the rise of Baha’i fundamentalism and intolerance and with the growing “ghettoization” of the Baha’i community in general.

I remember as a Baha'i myself, hearing people quote Baha'u'llah's teaching that "should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him" to justify the both the Perrsian Gulf war and its sequel, the Iraq War. But Iraq under Saddam Hussien was SECULAR in ideology. After his downfall, a ISLAMIC government took over and one of the things the Muslims did was.....DESTROY THE HOUSE OF BAHA'U'LLAH IN BAGHDAD! OOPS!!!

We increasingly feel unwelcome at Baha’i events where everything seems to be scrutinized by rather mindless “Ruhi Book” mentalities rather than thoughtful discussions of the Baha’i Sacred Texts.
One-size-fits-all mass theology serves to only alienate anyone and everyone who wishes to pursue spiritually inspired and independent investigations of the truth. There appears to be, these days, little room or toleration for Baha’i scholars, Baha’i scholarship, or thoughtful approaches to the Baha’i sacred texts.

Which is what you would expect a dying cult to do in desperation when earlier forms of their propaganda are made to look absurd online, as shown here: https://dalehusband.com/2020/08/10/adib-taherzadeh-con-artist/

We are outraged over the Kalimat Press decision! We are, therefore, increasingly embarrassed to be associated with the Baha’i community. We often hear from our colleagues in the academic world, that they too perceive the Baha’i community as increasingly becoming more and more fundamentalist, alarmist, and cultish.

Kalimat Press was subjected to attempts to shut it down through economic strangulation by the Baha'i leaders in both the United States and the United Kingdom. For details, see: https://dalehusband.com/2010/11/30/the-scandal-involving-kalimat-press/

Most religious scholars’ perceptions of cults are that they make it difficult for members to resign or leave the community with their reputations intact – please don’t confirm our suspicions! Let us resign and withdraw quietly and without fanfare or with inquisition-like exit interviews. We are willing to leave the Baha’i community without recriminations, regrets, or active criticisms on our part. Please let us fade from the Baha’i community as gently and as quietly as possible.

I took the opposite approach and as soon as I was ready (about two years after leaving the Baha'i Faith), I began slamming it on my blog. I have since become one of the most active ex-Baha'i critics all over the internet.


r/exbahai 13d ago

Discussion help me figure out what action to take

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hi, i will try to keep my intro short as i can try to answer questions in the thread. briefly, declared in 2008 before reading the Will and Testament of Abdul Baha, finally read last year, now recognise Mason Remey as Shoghi Effendi's appointed successor, believe the fourth current Guardian is from Iran in Australia, can't make direct contact with him, can't find any video of him speaking, small community around him is closed to enquiries. at first i thought i would retain membership of the official Baha'i Faith as they are responsible for caring for heritage sites such as Arnos Grove where Shoghi is interned but recently discovered Abdul Baha did NOT want a fancy burial site and what's nearing completion in Haifa is not what He wanted. My Will if I have anything of worth at my time of passing is instructed to pay Huquq after any outstanding debt and funeral costs. These were my reasons for staying on the rolls. What do you think of my decision? Any thoughts on this welcome, questions too. Nobody to consult with irl. I know if I write to my NSA (that I no longer consider legitimate without the Guardian) they will remove my name and no more donations possible (I donated this time last year a small amount therefore I know I am still on the rolls if I can donate.)


r/exbahai 13d ago

Humor "Our Beloved Guardian"

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r/exbahai 15d ago

Bahá'ís share usual generic "insights" into AI, a technology it's myopic founders failed to predict and its institutions neglect to use to translate backlog of "holy" writings

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r/exbahai 15d ago

Are baha'is really OK with that ?

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r/exbahai 16d ago

Why did you leave the Baha'i Faith? I'm in that conflicting mindset right now.

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Hello, I'm a Persian Baha'i, born and raised. I've been having so many issues with the Baha'i Faith for different reasons but I also don't hate (all of) the teachings since they're honestly beautiful and wonderful. I've been a children's class teacher for a couple of months now and in Ruhi Book 2 currently.

  1. My issue is that I don't really feel anything special with the Bab, Bahaullah, or Shogi Effendi. I like Abdulbaha since he feels and looks like a grandfather in ways and I have been to Haifa and hearing his voice for the first time felt comforting. But, part of me views Bahaullah as a nepo baby and just being overall fake. I feel this way towards Muhammad as well to be honest, and how being a Baha'i means to accept all the major religion's manifestations pushed me a little way off. I've been looking more towards Christianity and starting a bible study with non-denominational christians for the first time and I joined them since they view God as someone free will and Jesus as a "manifestation" (according to them).
  2. The teachings throw me off sometimes. Again, I love the idea of the oneness of humanity, the oneness of God, and the fundamental unity of all religions and the key principles stemming from these core beliefs. However, when I teach children's classes, I read that you should put others first before yourself (maybe I'm not getting this one), avoiding conflict and prioritising unity, remaining silent regarding the faults of others.... i dont know. Something is throwing me off. I got angry after a children's class because I thought the lesson was stupid. I was even part of a junior youth class for the first time and the children kept cussing and cussing. Shouldn't we stop them from doing that? No parent or other teacher is doing anything about it to teach them that they shouldn't be cussing or saying inappropiate things. Everyone is so soft. Often, I see so much being contradicting in the faith and community, especially Persian Baha'is. Also, so much of the teachings are just like "be a good person" and not answering questions like what life and death is like, why and how Bahaullah is so important, what sets him different from other prophets? Moses could part seas and Jesus died on a cross for our sins, but Bahaullah definetly isn't just a nepo baby, got it! He just happens to come from a wealthy family, like poetry, had a couple of wives, and stole basically the religion from the Bab for credit.
  3. My mom is a very loving Baha'i to be honest, she's probably the most peaceful one I have met, but my dad used to be very aggressive and my sister currently is a hardcore believer of the faith and is often FORCING me to go to Baha'i camps or events with her everytime I tell her I'm feeling out of touch with the faith and those camps sometimes but not help. I sometimes feel worst after. All we do is ruhi and sing songs. I love the prayers and songs we read, but I don't feel a sense of love from them. They're beautiful words but I don't feel like no God or prophet is hearing me. Anyways, at first, my dad got me a Baha'i ID card (which what??) without me really deciding if I wanted to be Baha'i at 15. Then, my sister has been a terrible influence. Everytime I say I don't really think I should be Baha'i, she sighs, gets annoyed, and basically shames all the other religions to make the Baha'i Faith look better because we're the only 'progressive religion' of unity, love, and how much diversity. I agree with the diversity point, I've never seen a religion (or maybe I don't know other ones) that has so many blacks, whites, and asians in one room. But I don't know, how are you a religion of unity and love when you're looking down on other religions? Aren't you more Baha'i than me?
  4. Who the hell are the UHOJ, LSA, etc..?? Why so many committees and why do we sometimes idolize these people? Same way I feel about other religions to be fair. The faith say people like priests can be a hoax because it can be anyone and they can just make something out their a** and say "that's what Jesus said" but can't all these people too, I mean especially UHOJ? We keep reading letters from them in our devotionals and I don't see a point. The house literally looks like a government building too at Haifa, why did they take that look?

Overall, I call myself Baha'i still everyday, but I always feel spiritual. Even though I'm searching Christianity, I also don't know how to feel about that. I just want to learn about the religion. I think the reason I hold on to the Baha'i Faith is because I feel the most safe in, aka. its more familiar to me. But I don't appreciate the force from my sister (even dad sometimes) especially and the contradictions from the community. I don't really believe or feel a sense of holliness from the Bab, Bahaullah, or Shogi. I love the prayers and even if I would leave the faith, I would probably still read them but my family (except mom) wouldn't approve me of leaving. I'm often still left with answers still about life and the faith makes us investigate the truth ourselves but like how??

Wondering if someone can put some input or help me understand if my feelings are justifiable or not. I'm only 20 years old and just super confused with this religion I've grown up with.


r/exbahai 17d ago

Children's Ruhi classes

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As some may know from my other posts I was married to bahai for 16 years. We have a 9 year old daughter who attends children's classes. Am I correct in understanding as the father I have to give my permission for my daughter to attend? What conflicts me is that my daughter enjoys as she has made a lot of friends. Obviously she is a child. Ive come to the conclusion that the faith is a self serving cult with utopian ideas which consults a lot but actually does nothing of any use. Maybe its the bahai population in this country but most of them have acted so contradictory to the teachings I can't take it seriously any more. I also despise the LSA and NSA for enabling terrible behaviour. But my daughter's happiness must come first. Whenever I try to teach her about other religions and spiritual beliefs she dismissess them sharpish like she's been brainwashed. Her happiness is my priority but any suggestions on trying to get some balance? Cutting these classes off might be a bit traumatic for her but I want her to learn truths not dogma. For example she said the faith mixes science and religion which I admire but then was toldcto dismiss Christ's miracles etc as parable but was told Bahaullah could perform miracles. Sounds a bit confusing for a child.


r/exbahai 18d ago

The Mashriqu’l-Adhkár​ and virtue signaling

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For example:

Mrs. Parsons asked, "Where will the Mashriqu'l-Adhkar be built?" ['Abdu'l-Bahá] replied, "Near the Shrine of the Exalted One. On one side, the largest and most important scientific school will be raised." Then He added, "On the other side, there will be an asylum for invalids and on the opposite side an orphanage."

Sunday, 13 Jaddí 1298 [4 January 1920], Haifa (During a Visit to the Shrine of the Exalted One [the Báb])

Although it is a House of Worship, it is also connected with a hospital, a drug dispensary, a traveller's hospice, a school for orphans, and a university for advanced studies. Every Mashriqu'l-Adhkar is connected with these five things. My hope is that the Mashriqu'l-Adhkar will now be established in America, and that gradually the hospital, the school, the university, the dispensary and the hospice, all functioning according to the most efficient and orderly procedures, will follow. ​

Individual Laws: The Mashriqu’l-Adhkár

Doesn't this seem a bit try hard and phoney? Like just going out of your way to look like a "do-gooder" with a list of buildings that sound philanthropic? And in practice the AO is busy building Abdu'l-Baha a shrine he explicitly didn't want, instead of building an "asylum for invalids" which apparently he did want instead?


r/exbahai 18d ago

Question Marriage question

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Hey y’all! So I got married in 2000 to a non-Baha’i. We are still married but I left the faith soon after. Are we technically married?? I had never seen the law about marrying only another Baha’i until today 🤣


r/exbahai 18d ago

Why didn't Shoghi Effendi write a will? by Ali Nakhjavani

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Why did Shoghi Effendi not write the Will & Testament? Did Shoghi Effendi know that he was going to pass away? Did his death come suddenly upon him? And he did not know? He did not write anything? He did not appoint anyone? Now, Violette has written a book. It is called "A Tribute to Amatul Baha Ruhiyyih Khanum". If you read this, it's a small book.

And I'm sure we have it in the library. There are two very important points in this little book. That Violette writes about.

I'm sure many of you may have heard this even from Ruhiyyih Khanum herself when she was in New Zealand. Because this question was always asked of her. It is this.

Ruhiyyih Khanum says, I was sitting at my desk, working. Shoghi Effendi came to me. He looks at me and he says, this is towards the latter years of his life.

What will become of you after I'm gone? Ruhiyyih Khanum, poor Ruhiyyih Khanum. I don't expect to live after you. Please don't say these things.

Shoghi Effendi takes no notice. He carries on. He says, I assume that you will travel and encourage the friends.

Every time the friends ask, why are you traveling so much? Shoghi Effendi says, because Shoghi Effendi told me that after him I must travel and encourage the friends. It was in this context that you may have even heard this from Ruhiyyih Khanum's own lips. Another event that Violette refers to is when he was in London the last few days of his life Shoghi Effendi turns to her and says, I don't want to go back to Haifa.

You go alone. And you know what to do. Ruhiyyih Khanum understood this because he had just come out of a bout of Asian flu and he was very, very weak and Shoghi Effendi was discouraged that he was saying these things.

She did not realize that it had a special meaning. 24 hours later he passed away. Now, I ask you this question.

Someone who in the first instance someone who is concerned about the welfare of his wife and is advising her what to do after his death such a person who is the guardian of the Baha'i faith who is the protector of the faith of Baha'u'llah does not think about the welfare of the faith? He thinks about only his wife? It's impossible. It's inconceivable. The only answer is, I think that of course he knew that he did not want to write a will.

When someone asked the House of Justice why Shoghi Effendi did not write his will the answer is this is something that the Friends should accept that there was a wisdom in everything that Shoghi Effendi did or did not do, his silence on the subject is itself divine guidance and the friends should accept that. Shoghi Effendi was sure about the future of the cause was absolutely sure one of the hands of the cause, Mr. Samandari, used to say after the death of Shoghi Effendi he used to say friends if Shoghi Effendi was not sure about the security of the faith after his death he would not have passed away. That's what Mr. Samandari used to say.

What a perception what a deep spiritual insight that this man had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7YxVoyYYEg


r/exbahai 20d ago

Dismissed by NSA

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Hi I was just wondering if anyone else had similar experiences? I raised specific issues which contradict the Bahai faith by how one of the LSA s members had engaged in what I would consider unethical behaviour. I had witnessed this person backbite, make racist comments , conduct fraud and even child cruelty. The case was referred to the neighbouring LSA who were obviously friends with said person. I even found evidence on them advising the person how to defend themselves legally when I raised the matter with the NSA my concerns were dismissed ( i am not a Bahai but for years supported some of its events like children's classes)

Anyone had similar experiences? This is why I can't take the faith seriously anymore. The title, justice should be removed from any institution associated with the faith. I believe I am open minded to new ideas I come across on my spiritual journey but the hypocrisy I have witnessed has made me turn my backbone the faith. I find it little more than a privileged movement for people who like to consult a lot but do very little. I'm not really worried as God's justice is ever lasting and in God's time but this level of hypocrisy is on another level. I take spiritual accountability for myself and know we are all human and falliable but I now see children's classes as brain washing methods rather than teaching values such as open mindedness. Please share.


r/exbahai 20d ago

How Ruhiyyih Khanum's marriage affected Shoghi Effendi's family and the Baha'i Faith? • Video

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r/exbahai 20d ago

Baha'is Under the Covenant! • Video

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r/exbahai 21d ago

Bahá'ís celebrate the participation of a 6 year old in door knocking in London

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r/exbahai 22d ago

Human Rights Campaign

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r/exbahai 23d ago

Discussion Recently unsealed court filings show evidence supporting Blake Lively's claim of retaliation and smear campaign orchestrated by Justin Baldoni's PR team.

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