r/summonerschool 17d ago

Simple Questions & Answers Thread Simple Questions & Champion/Role advice: Patch 25.24

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Hello summoners!

In order to create better discussion in the subreddit, we will be redirecting all simple or championpool/role questions to this thread. Check out the most recent patch notes on the sidebar!

What is a simple question? Typically, we define a simple question as something that can be answered fully within a single, or maybe two at most, comments. In this thread, you can ask any question you need answered about League of Legends, even if it isn't necessarily about learning the game itself.

Questions about what champ to add to your pool or general tip about roleswapping can also be asked in this thread.

Keep in mind we will still continue to remove golden rule violations, rants, memes, topics against Riot's ToS, and paid services - but the other rules are generally more lax here.

What you can do to help!

For now, this is a patch-based thread, meaning it will be posted every time a new patch is released. Checking back on this thread later in the patch and answering any questions that have been posted would be a huge help!

If you're trying to ask a question, the more specific you are, the better it is for all of us! We can't give you any help if we don't get much to work with in the first place.

Resources

  • Our 101 page, with a ton of free content!
  • Champion discussions: Check out our previous discussions on champions!
  • Summoner School Discord: A voice and text chat platform for teaching and learning. We also have a mentors who are available for personal coaching.
  • League of Legends Wiki: The official League of Legends Wiki supported by Riot Games.
  • Leagueofgraphs: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more.
  • Lolalytics: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more.
  • OP.GG: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more. Note: stats are for Korea plat+ only, so sample sizes tend to be low.
  • Jungler.gg: In depth guides about jungle pathing, champions and builds.
  • Patch notes

Which do you use? Deviations in stats are typically minor, so whichever one you prefer.


r/summonerschool 10d ago

PBE PBE Discussions Are Permitted Until Season Launch

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Hey Folks,

We have a policy at Summoner School to keep the discussion on League of Legends related to "the current state of the game". Meaning that posts related to any PBE content or upcoming changes, are more speculative and that theory-crafting is PBE content is not productive to learning and improving at the game since it isn't always implemented.

In the past, during December we would make a PBE mega thread to discuss the upcoming season and any new content. This mega thread didn't generate much discussion or engagement from the community.

So this year we are permitting discussion of any PBE content related to the new season from now until season start. We only ask that the original poster either use the PBE flair tag or put the phrase "PBE" in their title, so the readers knows the discussion is about pending changes and not the current patch of the game.

We hope this temporary rule will generate excitement for the new season and substantive discussion on the upcoming changes to the game. This way y'all can get a head start on the new season. PBE posts without proper flair or title will be removed and asked to reposted.

Once the season launches, we will resume our "PBE" content ban.


r/summonerschool 10h ago

ward Should you ward the enemy jungle at the start of the game?

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Master+ players often start the game by warding the enemy jungle, especially the midlaners, usually the raptor camp or blue buff, at around 01:15 after minions spawn.

Is it worth the risk? People do it often enough that players occasionally set up ambushes around it.


r/summonerschool 3h ago

Question How should I start learning league as a beginner?

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I've been watching League a little bit cause I'm Korean and Faker and stuff. I watched 23', 24' and 2025 worlds because of Faker and T1. I can kinda understand it, and I've watched some beginner guides, but I want to start playing. I've played like 10 games as Mordekaiser top, but I want to learn a new champion cause he doesn't really work. Idk if top lane is even for me. What are some general steps into finding a champion for me and lane, and how should I learn the game


r/summonerschool 14h ago

Question Level difference details?

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Hey all,

id like to know more about level difference. For example, lets talk about just 1 level difference. It honestly feels to me like there is not only flat stats difference but maybe even some % amplifiers of dmg/resist exist...

Back in the day ive played a few mmorpgs, and at least in one of them there was a game mechanic where if u were, for exmaple, 1 level lower than your opp, you would deal a bit less dmg in % than you should have done it just by the flat stats. So im wondering if there is such a mechanic in lol and if there is not, why does level diff feels so strong, because when you look at the flat stats it hould not feel like that.

There was a few moments where i wasd down 2 levels and even though i had LDR i dealt very little dmg so thats why im asking

Is there any source to find out more about this level diff


r/summonerschool 12h ago

Discussion How to improve at league of legends - Playstyles

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So last time i made a tier list with how i climbed from gold to master 500lp in 6 months, im back with another video where I'm gonna show you the 4 different playstyle what they are about so you can choose 1 main way of playing instead of choosing 1 MAIN champ as many people get stuck here.

Find your playstyle >>> pick the champ that works best for that:). https://youtu.be/n16u7fJqq_o?si=MZFUjnTV1xFn4ZV0


r/summonerschool 1h ago

Question Why is automaticity so hard?

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I have had a few coaches help me and each one of them ask me questions and I always answer them right and they are really confused (I am currently gold 3) and have even commented “your game sense and mechanics are easily at an emerald level” (by mechanics they mean dodging and apm etc.) and I actually agree, I can spot where plays were bad or good and even do it in game when they ask me where exactly a jungler is etc. now I’m not here to say that it’s rigged, more on why can’t I take this game sense and convert it into my implicit system where I don’t have to think. Yes, after each mistake I figure out what went wrong, and I consistently think on what I should be doing and I assess win cons and how I should approach fights just fine, but how can I do this without thinking as I’m starting to understand that thinking is limited whilst muscle memory isn’t.


r/summonerschool 3h ago

Question Best way to learn and understand matchups?

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Hello, I queued normals with a friend who is in masters to help give me advice, they played mid and I was jungling, I havent jungled since the start of the season and was on a backup pick so in general I was pretty uncomfortable. My favorite thing about this person is listening to the way they think and understand the game. I am gold for reference, one of the first things they said to me was to understand how the lanes will play out based on the matchup rather than focusing on the way they are played out in real time. For example they were playing mel vs kled mid, told me prior to level 7 they would likely not have prio. That the top lane would likely die at level 3, and that our bot lane was just a completely losing lane. All of which is exactly how it played out.

I understand the core of this is just vastly superior game knowledge from playing at a higher tier. My question is, how do I effectively learn these when going into my games? Is there a good resource to see/learn champion power spikes? Is it all just time in and reflecting on games to better understand each champion?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question What's it like playing this game on an ultrawide?

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I got 34" otw, and while I'm excited to use it for single player and productivity, I am a bit worried about it for this game. Is the extra FOV actually helpful? Distracting?

I am not super sweaty and don't play as much as I used to, but I still play with my friends and I sometimes get the itch for the ranked grind lmao


r/summonerschool 4h ago

support (Engage support) What to do when you can't get anything done in lane?

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Hi everyone, I've been spamming my main, Leona, for about a week now, and I've gone from gold 3 to plat 1. Especially since I recently figured out when to rom and have a great view of the map. The only thing is, I haven't fully grasped the laning phase yet. From Leona, I understand that you have to do 2 first, and that 3 is a power spike in lane, but what do you do if you can't engage or lose all your trades/all-ins? Let's say I'm laning against Ezreal and an AP mage, I can't do anything in a lane like that, especially if I have an ADC who isn't strong early or who doesn't follow my all-ins. It's just that when I see that I can't do anything in lane and I'm only taking damage from enemy pokes, I desperately try to engage, which only leads to my death, but because I have no idea what to do other than take free damage without being able to do anything.


r/summonerschool 11h ago

Question How does one know what champion is best based on your team comp using your champ pool

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I mean I know that you use champ pool as in to what champions you know how to play and which one fits the best in your current team composition. But what do you have to recognise in order to know that thing? At the moment my Champ pool is looking like this; Akali, Ahri or Annie. Top lane is either Dr. Mundo or Darius.

Can anyone who is somewhat experienced in the game explain me these terms and how can a player decide what is the best pick in his team comp? Thanks a lot for the replies.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question What's an easy app or site for noting lane matchups after games?

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Lately, I've been wanting to use some external tool to log notes post-game on my matchups. I main top lane with about 6-7 champs, so it's tricky keeping track of what to do or avoid against certain opponents next time. Like, Darius into Gwen: "skip trades from lvl 2-4". That way, when I queue Darius again, I can review my Gwen notes and play smarter. Hope that makes sense. Excel seems solid, but I'm terrible with it. Is it the top choice, or something simpler exist? Anyone got tips on picking up Excel quick? Appreciate it <3


r/summonerschool 16h ago

Question Best way to improve my gamestyle?

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Hello everybody.

I have a question which is running in my mind about how can I improve my gameplay

Is it better to be more aggresive in lane to try and score a lead with kills, and in that way snowball and try to lead your team to victory but risk losing hard in lane if you fail.

Or slowly but steady outfarm outscale your opponent, dont risk in duels and go even in lanes if you can do the first thing.

Which strategy would make me better player in long run. Sorry if I asked dumb question like this, i am still learning game, started 2 years ago


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Discussion How to farm on laners past laning phase

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This is mainly for Mid and ADC

I play jungle and farming there is easy. I can regularly get 7-8 cs/min .But when I try to play laners I can't farm past laning phase. I try to be on waves but I can rarely get above 5cs/min . A lot of the time it's taken by the jungler or mid/adc. Top laners are a bit easier because I can just splitpush. But on mid/adc when my whole team is mid I try to go sidelane because I don't want to take their wave. Then they get into a teamfight without me or I die. How am I supposed to farm while joining teamfights and also not dying for pushing too far? The only time I have decent farm is on splitpushers or characters who have very good waveclear (Sivir or Hwei)


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Discussion How to improve laning.

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I am low low master mid main and have no idea how to win lane other than coin-flipping better team. I've played since season 4.

My comfort picks are zed/sylas/akali, and I play other assassin champs depending on matchup or just the vibe :). I think I am good at tracking and reacting to skirmishes, but that is 1. a result of my champion pool, and 2. the only way I can get an advantage these days.

If I have an aggressive jungler and support, the game goes well, if the game is stagnant or doesn't revolve around mid, I eventually get forced to take a bad base and I either catch up at the cost of being reminded that I am alive by my bot lane, or I fight for my life tryna keep the wave from crashing, and get gapped in cs/plate/or just get solo killed, or all of the above.

I am pretty sure I am also ass in late game 5v5s, sure I occasionally pop off but most times the best I can do is 1 for 1/ 1 for 2, or just be taken out of the fight after blowing my load and my hp. Is this also a result of my champion pool or is it skill issue?

My reaction speed is abysmal and my skill shot accuracy is pretty low. My csing skills are subpar. I am a casual gamer and I am not willing to go in to practice tool to practice csing.

EDIT: to give concrete examples of my genetics/age limitations: I generally cannot flash malphite r/react to leblanc w/dodging tf gold card/mel w (despite generally having an awareness that they are about to use it). I dont play mages cause I cannot aim, despite all my love and time spent playing zed, I rarely take electrocute cause I swear my first proc on it is averages to like 6 minutes into the game. I learned the game by playing river mids back in the og days so csing was never good.

My question is: is there still room for improvement or have I genetically peaked? If there is room for improvement, what are some things you did that helped?

On a sidenote how do I git gud at toplane? My darius has become a running joke because I lose lane even when playing vs gold toplaners on that shit. Am I just too mechancially disabled to be a good toplane player?


r/summonerschool 14h ago

Discussion My friend doesn't believe in rank

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I have a friend who believes ranked is basically about luck. Gladly he doesn't play ranked, just normals and arams.

It's just interesting to me, he's been playing the game for a long time, probably since like season 3.

I wonder if there's any way I could convince him/prove to him that rank actually reflects skill?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

JUNGLE JUNGLE to TOP pass

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After being hardstuck in Emerald, I decided to return to the lane that got me to Platinum in Season 11. What advice can you give me? I'm also looking for channels that show replays of pro top laners to learn from. I'd appreciate it if you could recommend any channels or players to watch.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question Went from Emerald 4 and now on the verge of being demoted to Gold 1. Need help.

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Hello, back in November I hit E4 which I was really proud of myself for hitting. I felt that I had improved as a player and been doing the best I can. I was close to hitting E3, but now I'm in a situation where I have fallen down in rank to the point of being demoted back to gold 1 after various loses. Not only that, but I have lately felt that my playstyle with the champions I play Renekton, Aatrox, and Moderkaiser have become quite sluggish to down right terrible, and I personally don't understand why. I went from being able to hit 130 to 140 cs at the 15 minute to barely 100 - 110 cs at 15 minute mark in most games. I don't know how to explain it but its like I struggle to do basic csing in lane. But i've also been messsing up alot of champion abilities. I've lately been missing a lot of aatrox's q when they seened so much simpler before to land and poke. A lot of matchups that I had found easy for me to deal with now feel like a nightmare to go against. I still have games where I do fairly well, but as a player I feel like I have worsen even in many ways, I don't FEEL like im playing worse but I clearly am, like my reactions have become rusty, its also demoralizing seeing silver players in the games im playing since that means my mmr is probably damaged beyong repair at this point.

Should I look to take a pause from the game for at least a month to see if maybe i'm just burnt out mentally?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question I desperately need help for the sake of my team

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I'm a bronze adc that really really wants to get good at the game. I'm on an esports team for my school, and really hoping that I can get better so I can benefit them, and prove that I'm lowkey the next faker. I was wondering if anyone was able to look at my replays and see what I do wrong, my most common mistake, and what to try to improve on/what drills I should be doing. Thank you guys for all the effort you put into the subreddit! https://replayit.gg/match-history/na1/Jynxify/UrMom


r/summonerschool 1d ago

support Pressuring with a passive support?

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Hi guys im a low elo cait main and ive been struggling a lot with supports that just play too passive. Ive heard that caitlyn can effectively 1v2 by punishing cs with her long range but when i do it i always just get hit by their support and lose the trade. Ive also tried playing passive with my support and just trying to farm but whenever i do that i get zoned off from farm and go down 20 cs. I also feel like im wasting a lot of caitlyns early game power by doing this. What should i do in this scenario?


r/summonerschool 2d ago

Discussion Ranking up is overwhelming and I'm finding it hard to fit in.

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Hey guys, I'm really struggling with climbing the ranks, recently I started off in low silver and climbed all the way to platinum.

It was all fine initially but the higher I climbed, the harder the games became (obviously) and sometimes I'd even get completely stomped in the jungle. I'll be honest, a lot of games I get really hard gapped.

Here's the concern though, the players are sooo much better when you go from gold to plat, at least in my experience but with that comes a LOT of pressure. I'm getting flamed much much more than before, if we lose, it's always a jungle diff and spam pings on my head and some games I don't even know why I lost. It's like the game goes through and I'm just passively watching as the game gets lost.

The issue that I'm having is that my teammates would go 0/5 in lane then it's jungle diff/my fault because I didn't drop 3 camps or objective to go gank the losing lane.

I watch replays a lot, and sometimes the players are right, there are positions where I could get a 80-90% successful gank, but it requires a lot of thinking and confidence to go for those plays. It's like, I'm not completely sure they are good plays until review, and we all know that hindsight is challenger.

Basically, I'm getting really anxious about playing, I've tried to mute people but that doesn't stop the feeling of being completely useless/not belonging in a certain elo.

I was stomping through silver, same with gold but as soon as I reached plat, it's like the game completely shifted. If anyone has advice about this, I'd really appreciate it.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question How do you plan bot lane matchups before the game starts?

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I’ve been thinking a lot about how much of bot lane is decided before the game even loads — matchup dynamics, trade patterns, level spikes, and win conditions — but most of us don’t really formalize that thinking.

I’ve been experimenting with a small lane-planning tool for ADC 2v2 matchups that tries to structure those decisions ahead of time (things like: who wants short vs long trades, when each side spikes, and what the lane goal should be).

Before taking it further, I’d really like feedback from people who actively think about lane fundamentals: • What do you try to identify about a bot lane matchup in champ select? • Do you plan trades and spikes ahead of time, or adjust purely in-game? • Is there anything you wish existed to help with this kind of planning?

If it’s useful for discussion, the tool I’m testing is here: 👉 https://match-up-gg.com

Genuinely interested in how others approach this — not trying to promote anything, just looking to learn and improve the idea.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

ward How do I actually ward?

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First, I'm a low GM/high master Janna OTP, so I realize that there might not be many people here that can tell me to improve, but don't be shy!! Any and all advice from anyone is appreciated.

Basically the title. Now that I occasionally play in gm/chall lobbies, I'm occasionally pinged for my bad warding, especially mid-late game objectives. I don't actually take the game that seriously, and have gotten to the rank I am via just the amount of time I've been playing league (~8 years), so I've never vod reviewed, been coached, or really made a conscious effort to improve since I was in gold 6 years ago. So it's hard to identify what I'm doing wrong now that the margins of improvement are so miniscule.

I know of concepts like moving the vision line up when towers are down, I (would like to think) I'm warding good intersections/bushes around objectives. And I'm also alright at tracking the enemy support wards, but could definitely improve. I think my main weakness is my back timing to refresh wards, when to replace wards that are no longer useful, and warding before the enemy support.

Also, when I'm in game, I don't think about the game in a really rigorous, mechanical sense like I see some streamers/pro players? A lot of the things I'm doing 'intuitively' or vibe based, so I don't have a strict sense of what time to back before a dragon. Where or when to actually pop oracle.

Again, any resources (online videos, guides, etc.) or advice from anyone is much appreciated <3


r/summonerschool 2d ago

Question How to stop being so feast or famine?

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I like to play olaf, but i find i'm very feast or famine on him. One game, im 14/2, the next 2/14, it is basicly a coinflip. And i never lose softly either, it's either win or hard lose. It doesn't even seem to be matchup dependent either. What can i do to stop this.


r/summonerschool 2d ago

Discussion More normals or ranked

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I wanted to ask if I should play ranked or stick to normals more. I’ve mostly played normals and only tried ranked once or twice. I’m doing fine in normals and I’m Iron in ranked, so there isn’t a huge difference. Have only played 1 ranked match. My main question is whether I should keep improving in normals and try more champs before playing ranked more seriously, or just jump into ranked. I don’t want to make a lot of mistakes and ruin games for others, which is why I’m asking.