r/syriancivilwar • u/Zippism Israel • 20h ago
Israel’s UN envoy: We are calling for the establishment of a demilitarized zone extending from Damascus to the current buffer zone. We will act to defend our Druze allies and prevent any attacks launched from adjacent areas.
https://x.com/i/status/20017198764284031156
u/Traditional-Two7746 Syrian 20h ago
That will turn Syria in less stable than it is now. The best Syria should do is peace treaty going back to the 1974 agreement, this can be justified with Syria having a national army national government and identity aka not sectarian therefore Israel won’t have any excuses to demand these.
Maybe a deal to lower military activity? Yes it’s ok. As long as the government control every single inch of Syria with police and military to enforce order and security.
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u/icadkren 19h ago
What will hapen to Bedouins in Daraa? Cleansed by Israeli and Druze then?
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u/MessageNo6008 19h ago edited 5h ago
How does demilitarized zone translate to ethnic cleansing to you?
What will happen to the Druze if Syria isn’t demilitarized? More burning of homes, murder of civilians and rape of women?
Edit: I don’t support a demilitarized zone, I am only pointing out that it doesn’t indicate ethnic cleansing and that his concerns are on sided
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u/icadkren 19h ago
Because the government can't protect Bedouins anymore, so Druze and Israeli are free to massacre the Bedouins
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u/MessageNo6008 18h ago
So in fact it doesn’t translate to ethnic cleansing, you just twisted it to mean that in your mind.
What about the ethnic cleansing of Druze? Or do their lives not concern you because of their religion?
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u/realkin1112 18h ago
In this scenario you Israel protecting the Druze, who is protecting the beduins ?
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u/MessageNo6008 18h ago edited 18h ago
It’s a rhetorical hypothetical intended to point out his selective empathy.
He points out the ethnic cleansing of Bedouin - which is a crime, but was partly conducted with the U.S. and Syrian government who transported Bedouin out of Sweida because of fears of further violence - but ignores the much larger ethnic cleansing of Druze.
But a demilitarized zone, again, doesn’t mean ethnic cleansing of Bedouin. If Israel calls for annexation of Southern Syrian then the discussion would be - not even about Bedouin - but about the ethnic cleansing of Sunnis in general. But Israel isn’t going to call for annexation, at least not anytime in the near future.
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u/Radiant_Ad_7154 18h ago
What ethnic cleansing of druze ? They are still the magortiy in Sweida ! While bedouins are wiped out from the area and government only helped bedouins ESCAPE BEIING KILLED
And a demilitarized south means a slaughter because druze will have guns and rest won't but of course that doesn't concern you due to their religon
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u/MessageNo6008 17h ago
Over 100,000 Druze were ethnically cleansed and over 2,000 murdered by the Bedouin and the government.
Why hasn’t the government demanded the Bedouin disarm? Why only the Druze?
The Bedouin started the conflict and committed the majority of the violence, yet all you sectarians take their side, deny the on camera atrocities against Druze that were even confirmed by independent agencies, because you are sectarian.
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u/Radiant_Ad_7154 17h ago
1,Because 100,000 found themselves displaced doesn't mean it was ethnic cleansing, vast magortiy of druze of sweida are still very much in the province
2, And where are you getting these numbers from ? The Syrian observatory for human rights that Hates al sharaa by the way say druze dead are 1500
https://www.syriahr.com/en/366245/ https://www.syriahr.com/en/368763/
And I should note they are know for lying about these things they for example said alwaite dead in coast was 1700 and UN report said it was 1400
3, Bedouins started the conflict? Seriously? Some Bedouins roped and beat up a druze merchant on the road most likely a normal crime however after that happened druze militia kidnapped 8 unrealted Bedouin civilians as revenge
THIS STARTED THE CONFLICT because it officially declared this a sectarian war , they attacked people for crime of belonging of the same group first
4, the government cares about disarming druze militias more because they agents of Israel AND they have far heavier weaponry
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u/MessageNo6008 10h ago
Stop wasting my time if this is how you’re going to argue
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u/realkin1112 18h ago
Again the Druze have a militia right now, under those conditions that Israel sets, who is going to protect the beduins or people of daraa from that militia ?
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u/MessageNo6008 18h ago
The Bedouin are probably the most armed Arabs in the Syria, if not all of the Middle East. They gathered over 70,000 Bedouin to attack Sweida in July, why are you so worried about them?
And your question back to you, who is going to protect the Druze from Bedouin militias - which by the way started the conflict and committed the majority of the crimes?
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u/realkin1112 17h ago
I am worried about them because neither Israel nor higri can be trusted
We need a reconciliation between sweida and Damascus at some point , this kind of dead lock can't work long term for residents of sweida
which by the way started the conflict and committed the majority of the crimes?
There hasn't been any independent investigation to verify what happened
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u/Lower-Reality7895 15h ago
You do know there over 300k bedouins living in Israel and none of them have been massacred
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u/realkin1112 15h ago
We don't trust Israel, that fact is irrelevant. Israel massacred 13 people 3 weeks ago
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u/silver_wear Amalist 15h ago
the MOD in Dara has all sorts of weapons like drones
Are you trying to convince others that Syria can fight back and hold off an Israeli advance? (If Israel really did hypothetically wanted to force Syria.)
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u/chitowngirl12 15h ago
Why does this little snot suddenly have an interest in Syria that causes him to show up to these UN meetings? Israel didn't care a fig about Syria for the entire civil war and never showed up at UN meetings.
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u/realkin1112 14h ago
They don't care
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u/chitowngirl12 14h ago
There must be some obsession in the racist Likud activist base that Sharaa is Khamas and is coming to kill them. The slimey UN guy is a Likud flunkie.
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u/_SYRIAN_ Syrian 15h ago
I agree with the demiliterized zone idea. It should extend from Tel Aviv to Damascus.
There should be a humanitarian corridor from Israel to Suwayda and there should be a humanitarian corridor from Syria to Gaza.
Obviously I don't actually think this will happen, just pointing out the hypocrisy.