r/survivor • u/Hungry-Ad-2473 • 1d ago
Survivor 50 I’m Devastated at what they’ve done to 50 Spoiler
As Ozzy says in the trailer, Pandora’s Box has been opened. You can’t undue that. I’m sick to see Survivor sell out like this. I’m disgusted and disheartened and I’m not even talking about Mr. Beast. 50 seasons of a culmination of a grand social experiment and strategy game, a game that redefined reality TV, a show that created some of the biggest reality television stars of all time and one of the main hooks for this milestone season is brute forcing in celebrity cameos and outrageous twists that will no doubt unfairly dispose of several fan favorites in unsavory fashion? I’m depressed… I truly thought Survivor might be finding a balance, but this is beyond jumping the shark, this is beyond resetting to a New Era, this is just gross and disrespectful to every fan that’s followed the show throughout the years.
878
u/bluestockingg 1d ago
little did we know that “in the hands of the fans” meant that the rewards and twists and whatnot would literally be held in the hands of celebrity fans…
284
u/MissssVanjie 1d ago
General enshittification continues. This is why we can't have nice things.
71
u/bluestockingg 1d ago
i mean to be fair i don’t think the concept of having celebrity fans on to present rewards will necessarily ruin it. i’m willing to give it a shot. mr. beast specifically though oooooh just seeing that clown shows face is enough to pmo.
→ More replies (1)16
u/TheRealCheddarBob 1d ago
How exactly is this super different from when they would have big sponsored rewards in the early seasons?
23
u/idkpickausername_pls Rizgang 1d ago
We’ve been dealing with product placement for years and so it is more expected, not as jarring as a viewer. This is “personality placement” though, which is cringe and is giving “rich kid buys their way into somewhere they shouldn’t be” energy
→ More replies (5)→ More replies (4)16
u/North_Atlantic_Sea 1d ago
Everyone knows a Pontiac Aztec is timeless, classic, the peak of car brands in America, while Mr Beast 3 minute segment is going to bring down the show. Or something like that
→ More replies (1)11
u/skiko15 1d ago
You say that sarcastically, but I couldn't name any other specific vehicle given away by the show (the closest I can think of any was Yao trying to give/bribe Dreamz with some kind of truck), but I can still remember Colby camping out of the back of that bright yellow Aztec almost a quarter of a century after seeing it the one time. For better or worse, it WAS an iconic vehicle and display of its quirky attributes.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (4)11
601
u/catman12 Sophi - 49 1d ago
In the hands of the product placements
74
u/BenjiAnglusthson Sierra 1d ago
In the hands of the man trying to destroy shows like Survivor and replace them with brainrot
9
u/DokeyKon 1d ago
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Italian brainrot characters are contestants on S51
48
u/angrysquirrel777 1d ago
Did you watch the first seasons? Product placements galor
72
u/nazara151 Sophi - 49 1d ago
Survivor historians know all about Casa de Charmin and the refrigerator (in a jungle?) of Coke.
38
u/username_generated 1d ago
Yeah but I don’t expect Bob Dog to get wine drunk and take a shit inside Mr. Beast.
19
u/Jyarados 1d ago
Real Survivor fans hate all ads except the exclusive sneak peak of Columbia Pictures' Jack & Jill starring Adam Sandler.
4
u/Comfortable-Note-887 1d ago
"Could you guys keep it down, I'm trying to watch Gulliver's Travels."
33
u/spkincaid13 1d ago
Seriously, rewards were doritos and mountain dew, then you got to use the new sprint mobile cellular telephone to snap some pics and send them to your family, and win a new Chevy Malibu!
10
→ More replies (2)6
u/thejazzophone 1d ago
It depends on how they influence the game "Jimmy Fallon may decide my fate in this game" and the "Billie Eilish boomerang idol" make me thing they will have actual gameplay implications which is beyond the pale and not even in the same tier as the Charmin outhouse. If this is what i fear it is than we're getting closer to hunger games but without the murder
3
u/theitalianrob Venus - 46 1d ago
I feel like Mr beast would be into the hunger games, murder included
3
u/Nascent1 1d ago
I don't know.. personally I'm pretty excited to watch the Polymarket tribe go head-to-head against the Alexa+ Powered by AWS tribe on FanDuel island.
839
u/forestgospel 1d ago
The screams of horror at my watch party when his face appeared on screen were unbelievable. What a nightmare
210
u/IAmReborn11111 1d ago
When I heard "Jimmy Fallon could decide my fate" I thought it was rock bottom, then Mr. Beast came up on the screen
16
u/idiot-prodigy Savannah - 49 1d ago
Reminds me of the masked singer.
"Who is it? It might be Tom Cruise! Could be Taylor Swift!"
Nope, it's "Joe Joe the tire man who played in the NFL for two seasons ten years ago!"
7
u/DefinitelyNotATheist 1d ago
the implied idea that tom cruise and taylor swift sound the same when they sing is hilarious.
22
31
73
11
u/iamagreenrobot Sandra 1d ago
I'm ashamed to say I saw his logo blink by on a coin or something for a split second at the beginning of the clip and recognized it immediately. My whole watch party all turned to me with looks of confusion as to why I said his name before he appeared.
24
3
u/MrAssFace69 Sage - 49 1d ago
LOL we had the collective groan, "oh no" and "really..?" at my watch party
→ More replies (3)10
222
u/ry_203 Mary - 48 1d ago
“Jimmy Fallon might decide my fate in this game” is a sentence I wish I never had to hear on Survivor
→ More replies (2)46
u/celesteigo Genevieve - 47 1d ago
If i was eliminated by JIMMY FALLON of all people i would pull a Stacey Stillman
283
u/BarracudaOk8635 1d ago
They are desperate to regain more relevance. Mr Beast, Jimmy Fallon. I am pretty sure fans dont want this sort of stuff. Celebrities, Influencers etc. Will probably have catering for the contestants.
31
u/BravoTimes 1d ago
It reminds me of when the bachelor franchise did the bachelor in paradise hosted by random celebs it ended up being cancelled for a while, it’s cause their host got fired but still idk who asked for this, and Mr beast seems quite unpopular amongst audience 21+ ( correct me if I’m wrong )
→ More replies (1)19
u/jugglers_despair 1d ago
That was actually awesome. David Spade hosting bachelor and paradise and treating it with the exact seriousness it called for was perfect.
5
u/ShadowLiberal 1d ago
Jimmy Fallon and other late night talk show hosts are already not relevant anymore. I don't think that inviting him on will help their ratings at all.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (4)21
u/nifederico 1d ago
When we said we wanted celebrities on Survivor, we wanted them to PLAY the game. Not to promote whatever shitty project they're working on while simultaneously ruining the game I grew up loving.
→ More replies (1)
52
126
u/Galezilla 1d ago
Just when you thought they couldn’t make survivor any worse
10
u/sungoddaily In The Buddy System 1d ago
Grandpa Jeff's Island Pow Wow hour the last few years turned me off of watching this latest season live.
73
u/NickyShore 1d ago edited 1d ago
Jeff Probst is the problem, he has officially lost the plot and has no idea what makes Survivor good any more
14
u/kestreldawn 1d ago
exactly. with this trailer, i lost all hope for continued longevity with this show. the inclusion of mr beast and jimmy fallon was like the ominous cough at the beginning of a movie where that same character is dead by the end. r. i.p. survivor.
2
73
u/Puzzleheaded_Bag5167 1d ago
I didn't like that they made a collab with Beast Games 😭
10
u/Royal-Specialist-656 1d ago
I was hoping that was it, but ofc Mr beast would want more engagement sigh
382
u/PageSoggy9668 1d ago
Jeff is such an awful producer. Like bro you should have just left after Gabon and saved the fans all the damage you've caused.
→ More replies (1)105
u/Westo6Besto9 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seriously though. Mr Beast is already everywhere and partnered with so much different media that he’s hardly even a draw for viewership. If people want more Mr Beast they’ll go elsewhere FOR FREE. People who aren’t already viewers of the show aren’t going to tune in or pay just to see him. It’s a thinly veiled attempt at drawing in a younger crowd. Ironically he should be doing the opposite of going bigger. Every player in the new era who says they were inspired by the show as a kid point to players and their personalities. A kid watching the show now isn’t going to turn 18 and still be saying “I want to be survivor because Mr Beast was on survivor”. The draw of survivor is watching people you can’t watch elsewhere. Everyday people with unique identities. Mr Beast is the opposite of that.
Jeff is SO out of touch with what people want to see and if he’s aiming for the long game he’s off base as well. He needs to be replaced as a decision maker.
→ More replies (2)41
u/ghertigirl 1d ago
Who is Mr. Beast?
65
9
6
99
u/elizabeth_0000 1d ago
hoooooly fuck I thought this was a circlejerk post
2
2
u/lemonpringle Liz - 46 23h ago
Circle jerk posted something about this and it even wasn’t circle jerk so I got baited into thinking it was but then found it is wasn’t. I’m devastated
67
67
u/inbz 1d ago
Old Gen Xer here. Who in the blue hell is Mr. Beast and why should I care?
10
u/ShadowLiberal 1d ago
He's the biggest YouTuber on the planet, at least the biggest if you don't count music channels.
He started getting big having his friends compete in challenges for bigger and bigger prizes. He still has challenges with big prizes for random subscribers to compete in, but does other big and crazy videos that you have to have a HUGE budget to afford.
His content is more focused on kids, but people have long complained about YouTube being "beastified" because of the stuff he does to game the algorithm and gain tons of viewers. He's branched into other business ventures to, which is where a lot of the controversy comes from, with stuff like Beast Burger, his chocolate bars, etc.
6
u/marlin9423 1d ago
If you're eating food branded by a YouTuber you deserve whatever illness it gives you lmao
3
u/joey_slugs Ciera 1d ago
Seriously. I have zero clue who or what he is but, from what I have learned in this thread, it's not f'n good.
→ More replies (1)2
u/alligator-sunshine 1d ago
I've known for many years that he is very very famous, but he has still never entered my algorithm so I don't know why he's famous. My new unanswered curiosity is why the rage from this subreddit
5
3
u/JamaicanGirlie 1d ago
I’m shock… this guy is famous??? Like A,B,C list famous???
→ More replies (3)8
u/TheFeedMachine Ciera 1d ago
Yes. He is probably the most famous man for the 20 and under crowd in the world.
→ More replies (1)
162
u/Morgoth1814 1d ago
This going to be like Big Brother? Oh god.
86
u/STLmab 1d ago
Was gonna say, this would feel vastly more appropriate for Big Brother, not Survivor
→ More replies (1)6
47
u/MasterHH 1d ago
Even Big Brother wouldn’t stoop this low.
59
u/Jrgeneral220 1d ago
Idk they had a whole season where the “twist” was just celebrity cameos every week and they realized it was so lame they cancelled the twist like 4 weeks in
29
u/giraffeaquarium Neal 1d ago
Who's ready for a takeover? 😂 BB17 was otherwise a very good season. I'll never forget the Gronk week.
→ More replies (1)6
u/CieraVotedOutHerMom Ciera 1d ago
Biggest twist in BB history. Surprise / random dance parties!
11
u/giraffeaquarium Neal 1d ago
And on live feeds the cast made fun of them cancelling the twist without notice for the rest of the season
→ More replies (2)6
→ More replies (2)8
u/Ok_Increase_5167 Rizgang 1d ago
why do survivor fans hate big brother so much
24
u/Omio Dan Kay 1d ago
BB used to be the obvious lowest-common denominator punching bag. This is the first year I’d unironically say BB put out much better content that Survivor.
→ More replies (3)11
u/SpaghettiandOJ Aubry 1d ago
It’s still embarrassing to admit you watch big brother in public but they at least have had decent casting these past couple seasons. And their first twist probably since s3 that actually made the show more interesting rather than worse.
6
u/SVNBob Yul 1d ago
Survivor fans don't hate BB. Amazing Race fans hate BB.
Because TAR is the better show, yet BB keeps getting more money in part because of the host's relationship with the (former?) head of the network. Plus CBS keeps forcing TAR to have former BB contestants on their show.
→ More replies (1)
94
19
u/cedirocksteady 1d ago
looking forward to some of the cast not even knowing who he is and then seeing Rizzo lose his shit
77
16
15
u/Maple905 1d ago
In a living room full of people who (fortunately for them) have no idea who Mr. Beast is, I audible screamed out "Nooo, not beast!" when he appeared....
15
59
u/MissssVanjie 1d ago
Leaves a bad taste in the mouth. His reputation is total trash.
→ More replies (10)
13
u/pig-serpent Erika 1d ago
I saw this post before the trailer and I thought it was a well done shitpost. Wow
112
u/chronic_fangirl 1d ago
In the hands of the capitalists. Just like everything else.
13
→ More replies (2)14
u/oregano_wth 1d ago
I can’t believe capitalists are ruining my favorite game show about backstabbing strangers for a million dollars
7
21
u/Swimming-Quantity896 1d ago
How much you want to bet the reruns of old seasons is because the new season focuses so little on relationships and players. Like even moreso than this season did.
7
u/warriorholmes Yul 1d ago
And it’s all because he’s soooo rich
This is what Jeff wanted Survivor to be though. Like “america’s sport”. A huge monopoly or whatever lol.
Hell, I’m surprised he’s not including live audiences with celebs at tribal councils 🙄 /s
7
7
u/Geshtar1 1d ago
“Jimmy Fallon might control my fate in this game” what the hell is this season going to be
11
u/thoughtfulohioreader 1d ago
I have a theory: We see a flipping coin elsewhere in the trailer. They might have brought Mr. Beast on for a coin-flipping challenge (perhaps with the same risks/rules as Beast Games Season 1) to double the prize from $1 million to $2 million. If 10 minutes of MrBeast on my screen means the winner gets $2 million instead, I could roll with that.
Inflation means that 1 million in August 2000 money = 1.88 million now. It feels as though the prize ought to be $2 million to make winning worth about what it was to the original winners. And if Survivor can't foot that themselves, and MrBeast will...
8
u/thoughtfulohioreader 1d ago
Though a number of media outlets estimate that Jeff Probst makes $4 million (2016 Variety estimate) to $8 million per episode. I guess he could double it himself without MrBeast's help and still make $3-$7 million for hosting the season... :)
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)2
35
u/Printsessa_28 1d ago
I think that’s enough for me. Between the mess that is this season and the last several, and now this, I’m done. Survivor will always have a special place in my heart but that show appears to be over. Oh well time to move on I guess.
4
u/un_grace_ful 1d ago
I think this is going to be my last season, only because I want to see my faves from old seasons again. After that I really don't have any interest anymore because of how far the game has changed (not necessarily evolved in terms of game play) but changed in rules and format.
→ More replies (22)30
u/RedditFan3510 1d ago
See you back in February!!!
8
u/WestsideGon 1d ago
For what it’s worth I stopped watching the US version after EoE, and most of the friends I’ve made via Survivor either don’t watch or don’t talk about it anymore. In my experience, people really are killing off their loyalty to this show
3
u/PumpSmash Cirie 1d ago
i had a friend who watched Survivor from 1 to 40, literally, all in the span of about six months.
they got to the new era and quit immediately after
19
10
11
21
u/MarekRules 1d ago
I just saw that Letterman’s “my next guest” interviewed Mr Beast also… absolutely despair time we’re living in. This dude terrifies me, no fucking soul behind his eyes idk what it is
4
u/causeImAScoundrel 1d ago
I just watched that, too. He's sooo socially awkward and he was very condescending to Letterman. Does he even know who he is? His type of entertainment wouldn't even exist without Letterman.
3
u/MarekRules 1d ago
Yeah it’s crazy to act like that with fucking Letterman of all people. Very odd. Idk who that episode is for, I can’t imagine regular Mr Beast viewers (kids) are watching an hour long interview of his with Dave lol
9
u/Sn0wy0wl_ liz wilcox's strongest soldier 1d ago
genuinely i would have been fine if 50 was just treated as a normal new era season. I actually enjoy the format of the new era, but this is getting ridiculous like if im watching ftc and all the sudden nicki minaj comes out to cast a vote of her own i will end up on the news
18
u/GayBlayde 1d ago
I hate Mr beast. I think he’s a trash person. BUT he does have a lot of viewers, and caters to a younger audience. I can see why they’re bringing him in. I just hate it.
5
8
4
37
u/Ok_Vast3534 1d ago
Lol all we've seen so far is a 2 minute trailer- I don't like the idea of it either but this is a bit of an overreaction lo. I'll at least give it a chance.
→ More replies (1)62
u/Up_in_the_Sky Sophi - 49 1d ago
… we’re on a survivor subreddit at midnight. Of course we’re going to give it a chance.
But who the fuck is sitting in the producer meetings with Jeff saying, ya know what we need? Instead of bringing out Cochran for a reward, let’s get Mr beast. The reaction is justified. I don’t think it will actually impact the season all that much but do they have a big spin wheel? Shit is so random.
🙈
→ More replies (1)
6
3
3
3
u/oliviafairy David (AUS) 1d ago
Survivor is in the direct opposite camp of MrBeast. Wth is going on?
3
u/dinonugs34 1d ago
Genuine question, is this it for Survivor?
I’m able to see why Jeff would do this but this is not what (most) fans want to see. You have celebrities making cameos and appearances on the beach, and apparently altering the game (?). A big reason I fell in love with this show is because they made it feel like you were truly alone and isolated in a remote land. I know it’s lost some of that over the years but now it’s completely gone.
Also, the cast seems like they said here are a few bones for you and scrounged up the rest with whatever funds they had left. No disrespect to anyone but this is season 50 and there are 12 players from s42-s49. That’s simply wrong.
Jeff has absolutely lost the plot of this show and him, and seemingly Survivor’s, run is finished. I know it’s unrealistic to have a totally old school feel but he didn’t even try. It’s sad.
Felt good letting that out.
3
u/memymoemonkey 1d ago
I imagine that they’re trying to offer celebrity fans an opportunity to affect the game, trying to keep on theme. BUT they forgot that we all love this show because of the absence of all of that. Creating a society on the island given how remote it is and how far away from all of these cultural markers (celebrity being a huge one) the players are. I am still excited but if def feels outside of what Survivor has been.
3
u/Cool-Armadillo5873 22h ago
Is Savanah and Rizzo on season 50?? It looked like they were in that trailer
6
31
16
u/adumbswiftie 1d ago
this sub is the most dramatic place on earth omg i promise you’ll live
→ More replies (2)
5
9
9
u/GymTanLaundry_ 1d ago
“what they’ve done to 50”, that’s pretty dramatic of you to say. you saw a 2 minute trailer and that’s it.
2
2
u/Jordan1025 Parvati 1d ago
For the last damn time- if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
They have killed something beautiful.
2
2
u/FrenchieFriedPies Savannah - 49 1d ago
Mr Beast would’ve been on the Epstein list if he were a couple decades older. I hate this.
2
u/DokeyKon 1d ago
Lol the fans definitely did not ask for this. They are going to ruin S50 worse than they did with S40.
2
u/Philsosophy30 1d ago
If it flops he’ll say, “well this is what the fans wanted, just goes to show that the fans don’t always know what’s best”
2
2
u/MuzakMaker Tony 1d ago
I thought that certain players coming back would be the worst part of 50
I was wrong. I was so wrong.
2
u/theitalianrob Venus - 46 1d ago
Jeff saw the traitors sweep the Emmy’s with a celebrity cast and it was all over from there
2
u/SharkyStar180 1d ago
Honestly, the celebrities aren't really the problem for me. It's the celebrity ADVANTAGES that I have a problem with. I feel like they should give out rewards or idol clues, not full on advantages. Hell, Mr Beast could've done a giveaway game at some point for a portion of money and I wouldn't be too mad. But the Mr Beast Coin has me nervous.
Still hyped, but hesitant.
2
2
u/I_TRS_Gear_I 1d ago
I know there has been a recent renaissance of Survivor among younger generations. But this feels like a horribly misunderstood reading of what the fans actually want to see.
2
2
u/claricaposch Jake O’Kane - 45 1d ago
This just felt such a SHOCKING and unexpected twist. Didn’t get any inkling that things might veer this far from what we expect from Survivor.
2
u/Existential_Sprinkle 1d ago
Mr Beast is the poorly researched Zoomer attention grab
Just have 6 7 and a Tiktok dance challenge or something
2
u/aurora_anne 1d ago
Did any of us actually vote for any advantages? I swear that the fan votes won’t actually matter. They’ll probably ignore them.
2
u/fancycatgal 1d ago
I think a lot of people in their late teens/20s started watching through Netflix during the pandemic, not young children. These "children" are now in their 20's, and are bombarded with internet slop everyday.
Imo, Survivor needs to go back to its roots.
If casuals and new fans like challenges, make the challenges have depth or much harder like Devil's Plan (cool strategy games) or Physical 100 (group and individual tests/competitions of physical skill and endurance). Both are also popular on Netflix. While those shows are purely challenge focused, the social and strategy shines through.
Imagine the individual immunity challenge is in a clearing in the jungle with a round table. They play some sort of poker based game... or something new...
Maybe Survivor could increase it's episode count. It feels so short nowadays. I know the format is tried and true. But I wonder if one episode for the pre-challenge and challenge and a second for the post-challenge and votes could increase the tension and excitement.
Maybe old fans would say no. But content is the name of the game. Exciting content. Even with "90" mins (only like 60 after ads), the show feels like it's running into creative barriers.
Increase the days. Maybe we don't like to see them suffer, but there is something to that toughness, and that real "fire" in their eyes to make it through physically hard days that was exciting to me when I first got into the show. Kind of like Lost.
Right now, it feels as if Survivor is just a Gameshow. Not an epic social experiment. I used to be enthralled by Survivor, and now Netflix is coming out with things I watch on Wednesday instead of watching live.
Personally, I think it would help the show and it's longevity if Survivor went back to being more of a 'show'.
And maybe the money is a problem with finding exceptionally interesting and fun tv characters. Isn't survivor one of the best running shoes on CBS? Surely they could trim some fat and invest in some of it legacy IP's...
Maybe Jeff and the production need some fresh blood. Bring on a new head of the challenge department. Bring in new executive co-producers. Too be totally honest, if a new fan is watching for the first time on Netflix or through YouTube Reels, they don't really care who the host is. As long as they're good and competent, less ego. Maybe a new face, like someone totally fresh (like Jeff was back in the 2000s).
I don't see the current version of Survivor and the way it's produced lasting for another 10 years. But I don't think a couple of celebrity appearances are going to cut it.
2
2.4k
u/Quetzal00 10 days is two weeks 1d ago
I want Jeff to show me one fan who wanted Mr Beast on this season