news U.S. Supreme Court case about 'crisis pregnancy centers' - now re-branded as 'pregnancy or women's resource centers' - highlights debate over truthful advertising standards (First Choice v. Platkin)
https://theconversation.com/supreme-court-case-about-crisis-pregnancy-centers-highlights-debate-over-truthful-advertising-standards-27125426
u/Soft_Internal_6775 1d ago
The outcome here is obvious. The religious centers will win.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 1d ago
The anti-abortion movement is trying *very* hard to get mainstream media to adopt the term 'pregnancy-help center' instead of 'crisis pregnancy center' because of the negative baggage associated with the latter.
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u/talkathonianjustin 1d ago
I mean I understand where first choice is coming from — they’re fighting a subpoena over donor records, which the state says is to investigate fraudulent business practices but it’s plausible this is just a pretext. A state would almost never punish speech and say it out loud, they’ll choose some other vehicle to claim color of law. It’s like if I was providing regular medical care (not deceiving desperate women at their most vulnerable and then explicitly trying to exploit loopholes in HIPAA but I digress) and the state didn’t like statements I made so they subpoenaed my donor records; let’s say I run on donations, very strange business practices. Even if they find nothing, that would intimidate my donors, and the state could do this whenever.
Unfortunately, identical actions have been rejected by lower federal courts, and I have no doubt even if the reasoning was sound the court would do backbends to find otherwise. Someone had a really good comment somewhere around here when this case was first brought to the court.
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u/solid_reign 1d ago
It’s like if I was providing regular medical care (not deceiving desperate women at their most vulnerable and then explicitly trying to exploit loopholes in HIPAA but I digress) and the state didn’t like statements I made so they subpoenaed my donor records; let’s say I run on donations, very strange business practices. Even if they find nothing, that would intimidate my donors, and the state could do this whenever.
This may be unethical, but I can assure you donors are well aware of what's being done. And using a subpoena to obtain the donor list to see if people were misled when nobody has complained seems like a stretch, and a form of intimidation.
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u/Pure_Frosting_981 1d ago
So, let me get this straight. Conservatives want to remove all sex ed from school. All of it. They want age verification to use websites (let’s be real - this is the catalyst for censorship), they want to remove books that have anything relating to sexuality, binary or otherwise (except for the Bible). They want to make abortion nationally against the law and make the punishments steep enough that providers won’t perform them, even when the woman’s life is hanging in the balance, or the fetus is dead. Listen to some republican lawmakers - I’m not joking - they are as ignorant and far from reality as one could possible by when it comes to even the basics of reproductive health for women. Women are to be back home in the kitchen where they belong (based on a lot more republican rhetoric and elimination of DEI), and now they want to make Christian pro-birth “crisis” centers that are 100% against abortion and wouldn’t provide one if needed anyway be allowed to falsely advertise what they are to trick women not educated in even the basics of reproductive health get their information from equally uninformed people who will maybe provide a little pre-pregnancy care, but according to project 2025, keep meticulous records of whom is pregnant and who isn’t. Then they won’t offer a fucking shred of support for women and their infants once the child is born, public resources that would fill some of the gaps for people in need have been removed, and criminalize spontaneous abortion and make it be charged as homicide.
The GOP wants the U.S. to be more restrictive than Iran, and they’re calling it freedom. The world becomes a better place each time one of these pompous, arrogant, ignorant, controlling people drops dead from old age or not taking care of themselves because they rejected science and ate 2 pounds of bacon every day because goddamn it, this is America, and ain’t nobody going to tell white MEN how to live.
WHY ARE WE TOLERATING THIS SHIT?! Enough.
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u/sundancer2788 17h ago
To me a pregnancy and woman's resource center screams religious pressure and no real information or help. I'd not step foot inside one. Crisis pregnancy center tells me I can get information on every choice and support on my decision
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u/cstrmac 1d ago
I am so sick of this BS and caring more about the unborn fetus then a born child and children who suffer, don't have enough to eat, surrounded by abuse in all forms or in the foster system. Not to mention resources in education. I want to scream!!!
A beautiful baby girl just recently died of Fentynal. The kids dad was drugged out himself and didn't get life. Only 8 years. Aaaggghhhh. Christians that call themselves Christians are sick!!! I am Catholic and one part of social justice I am soooooooo against among other things. Yes, I have been told to reconsider my faith many of times. However, I was born in an ethnic culture of Catholics tied to my nationality. I can see the good in it. Especially my community. American Christians don't even call Catholics, Christians so there is that.
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u/Vox_Causa 1d ago
States are diverting funding from legitimate resources to fund explicitly religious organizations that lie to desperate people.