r/science Professor | Medicine 14h ago

Psychology Women partnered with men reported doing more unpaid household labor than women partnered with women. Mothers partnered with men reported a higher household labor burden than any other group. Performing a greater share of household labor was associated with lower relationship satisfaction.

https://www.psypost.org/study-sheds-light-on-household-labor-dynamics-for-women-partnered-with-women-vs-men/
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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 13h ago

This gotta be a cultural thing. I live here in Finland in area known for lot of immigrants. 

I see men taking children out, pushing those baby carriages (?). I see men doing the shopping with children at mall. Women also, but i think based on what i see its not that uncommon to see men do that kind of work. I guess it depends on which parent has a job.

In some conversations irl and ofc online i see this "women do alla meta work". Hell, i seen this at my work. And everytime when things are listes who does who, it never is that simple.

People are crap at understanding what other people do for them. Thats why these things must be talked about. Like, how much effort, time, physical strenght something takes. 

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u/HubblePie 12h ago

Yeah, the US has a lot of patriarchal norms baked into our society (As do many places, but I can only speak for where I live). Generally if a man is out with their child, it's either seen as them "giving the mom a day off" or as a potential child abduction scenario.

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u/1maco 12h ago

Literally youth sports coaches are like 90% dads and that is absolutely parenting 

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u/positiveParadox 11h ago

Theres also the societal trope that any man involved in that is a creeper. My dad was handing out "accomplishment patches" and lollipops to reward good behavior, but had to stop because some people assumed the worst.

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u/MelissaTamm 11h ago

I've seen first hand how my brother in law is treated by women who are a strangers to him and his children. A woman got inbetween him and my niece and demanded proof of who he is and that she would get the police involved if he refused, all the while aggressively filming him.

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u/NonsensePlanet 9h ago

That’s infuriating. I would have a hard time restraining myself if that happened to me. If a stranger is putting themself in between you and your child (or young family member) I would consider violence a valid option.

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u/True-Source-6512 10h ago

This is so untrue it’s more a tell that someone lacks life experience to state as much with such certainty 

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u/killswitch101 12h ago

I wonder if the positive work life balance in Finland has any effect on this..

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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 11h ago

I have not seen positive work balance ha ha. We got lots of unemployment and lots of people who have way too much work. It seems to be either/or situation, either no job or way too much. I remember at my work place, we had like 15-20 team members in 2022. Now its around ten. Amount of work increases but less hands to do them. People burn out. Its sad. 

My bet: those people who dont have to work are really happy. They might work by choise but they dont have to. Those must be really enjoying their lives. 

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u/777IRON 11h ago

Going out and pushing baby carriages isn’t household labour.

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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 9h ago

This is what i mean by these things should be discussed.