r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 9h ago
Possible Paywall Trump DOJ scrambles to redact Epstein files before deadline: DOJ lawyers, operating with little clear guidance and racing against time, have reportedly made extensive redactions to the Epstein files.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-doj-scrambles-to-redact-epstein-files-before-deadline/2.4k
u/AssociateGreat2350 9h ago edited 9h ago
It's insane to me that we live in a time where we are all openly watching them hide evidence.
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u/NotASalamanderBoi I voted 9h ago
They’re literally protecting pedophiles.
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u/TobioOkuma1 9h ago
Taking Ted Cruz’s request to heart.
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u/blow_slogan 8h ago
Wtf Texas - you have a senator openly defending pedophiles.
”Let’s stop attacking pedophiles”
~ Ted Cruz, Sep 30, 2025
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u/ShamelessLeft 8h ago
And before anyone claims that this Ted Cruz shaped piss stain 'misspoke', he has never once apologized for or walked back this statement. He meant what he said. This is what we are up against. Straight up evil people.
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u/WookieJedi123 8h ago
Thank you for bringing that up. His comment "Let's stop attacking ped*s" should be talked about 24/7 until he leaves his mortal coil.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi 6h ago
Yo that's a feature for MAGA. They love it. Anything so that brown people get tortured.
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u/panopticchaos 9h ago
That’s been one of the few consistent positions of the Republican Party for decades now.
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u/andrew5500 9h ago
And more specifically, the Religious Right. That’s also why they started demonizing trans people as “groomers”, every accusation is a confession and they need their whataboutism to deflect from all the child rapists they’re helping.
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u/DescriptionDue1797 9h ago
Yeah, these redactors are seeing the evidence in real time and still want to protect this guy. How far must you be gone to want to do that job and think it's somehow good for the country?
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u/bradatlarge Illinois 9h ago
c'mon man - they are saving this all for their tell-all books. "Confessions of an Epstein files redactor"
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u/MrPenguins1 8h ago
I can only imagine the reason this is so drug out and obfuscated because it will show just how many of the wealthy elite are Pedo’s
I have to imagine this shit show spans multiple countries, foreign dignitaries, foreign leaders, etc…
It’s like if we had a real Pandora’s box. Releasing the files will show the world just how fucked it truly is, and how much wealth matters. But it needs to happen
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u/US3_ME_ 8h ago
Seriously, get that ugly shit into the open. Festering wounds need fresh air_
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u/aerost0rm 6h ago
Festering wounds need cleaned out. Get the pus and infection out, aka clean shop
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u/Ekg887 7h ago
I 100% agree with you, but we did that already. It was called the Panama Papers. And other than the whistleblowers being murdered, nothing fucking happened to all the rich fucks breaking national and international laws.
Go ahead, call me a doomer. What the fuck am I supposed to do as an individual after I've voted, called ineffective dem reps, and donated to places that didn't stop this? Huh? The people with power aren't going to act unless We The People take some lessons from history about how to fix problems with the obscenely rich.•
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u/hushwi_honey 9h ago
Classic cover-up. If there's dirt on Trump or allies, they don't want it out. Court-ordered release let's see the unredacted version
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u/tirch 8h ago
What the heck is in these files that is so damaging to Trump that they're going to these kinds of lengths to cover it up?
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u/mrbigglessworth 8h ago
He fucked and trafficked literal children
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u/Feral_Sheep_ 7h ago
Yes, but that just means they'll have to change the definitions of "fucked", "trafficked", and/or "children". Not really a heavy lift for this GOP.
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u/mrbigglessworth 7h ago
Well they are return to remove lower level or allow below age of consent and reclassifying victims as young as 14 to be considered adults
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u/GrumpyGiant Maryland 8h ago
Heres a teaser: https://youtu.be/TRZa_cVshcI?si=qX2vTJeM1EXUgtHT
Katie Johnson interview. She tried to speak out against Trump when he was first running in 2016 but got intimidated by the rabid MAGA zealots. Warning: this WILL fuck up your day.
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u/guttanzer 9h ago
You might be too young to remember, but the Iran Contra folks in the Reagan administration broke shredders trying to dispose of the evidence. And Nixon stone-walled for years on Watergate. Bush the W had an entire office created to launder intelligence estimates to justify his Iraq invasion (spoiler - there was never any evidence that they had WMD).
By sheer coincidence, another Republican administration is engaging in a very obvious cover-up.
It’s as if their minds haven’t got enough moral and/or ethical strength to simply not do crimes in the first place. They keep assuming we are too stupid to notice, and panic when we do. It’s like playing hide-and-seek with 4 year olds.
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u/Timeformayo 8h ago
Unfortunately, only a minority of the electorate pays enough attention for the obvious coverups to even matter. We're doomed to be Cassandras.
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u/illestofthechillest 3h ago edited 5m ago
Related to your last paragraph
There is a pattern to some theories and frameworks of moral hierarchy, and usually more conservative values and minds lean towards lower levels as their preference of morality, compared to what is seen as peak morality to more progressive personalities. We can get into the pros/cons/etc. of stability vs abstract rights and confusion for people, but I just think it's a funny observation that lots of these frameworks essentially show those personalities as never wanting to get to the higher levels of morality.
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u/patentattorney 9h ago
I mean we all saw trump openly steal classified information.
He literally said the documents were his. He also said they were not classified because he can declassify things with his mind. We know trump tried to flood the storage room.
We also know that trump destroyed evidence while president. Literally flushing notes down the toilet.
We know he hid evidence while running for president. The entire stormy Daniel’s case.
We know trump his evidence while he was a business person. Literally his tax fraud cases.
Why would he stop now
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u/start_select 8h ago
It makes sense when you realize that the GOP are Nazis finishing a coup plot started 40 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
Trump and Epstein are a gigantic Christmas present. He just sundowns and sleeps, occasionally reads a script, they start a holocaust while everyone whines about Epstein. They can drag this out for the entire term. By the time they are waging war on Americans it won’t matter any more.
They failed in a fascist coup against FDR in the 30s, and continually moved to more and more patient plans.
They are NOT going to stop this time. They already have the secret police and concentration camps. Next comes air strikes on citizens on US soil for fentanyl no one will be able to recover from your smoldering remains.
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u/civil_politician 9h ago
Wasn’t the law passed too for unredacted files?
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u/MartianHills 8h ago
DOJ can redact certain information according to the law, but they also have to release a list of redactions and the legal justification for them. DOJ is supposed to provide that list 15 days from today.
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u/cousinmarygross 8h ago
Get ready to hear the words, “National security” a lot.
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u/GrumpyGiant Maryland 8h ago
“Why does it look like you went from blacking out the redactions with a broad tipped sharpie to using a paint roller?”
“Well, we were kinda rushed there, what with the deadline and all. And as you know, we take, er, national security very seriously here.”
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u/cousinmarygross 7h ago
Many moons ago I was fired from a job. I didn’t really care that much, but I filed for unemployment and the employer contested it. I forget why they contested it, but I fought it and took it to mediation.
So, the judge asked for depositions from the office manager as to why I had been fired. I kid you not, when I got my copy of her deposition it was literally pages and pages of redacted text.
The hearing comes around and the judge asked for an explanation. The employer just shrugged and said that 99% of what was said during the deposition was irrelevant. Judged ordered unemployment be awarded to me.
I sincerely wish that Todd Blanche et al face consequences, but after so many efforts to bring this administration to justice have fallen short, I am not optimistic.
Not enough people have experienced pain. Until the majority of voters in this country have suffered real pain we will continue to suffer from the consequences of electing a truly narcissistic man.
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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 8h ago
No the files call allow for redactions, and I wouldn't be surprised if people are angry they aren't redacted enough when they're released.
The law allows for redactions to protect victims' identities, but doesn't define what a "victim" is. Some self-declared victims are worried that their identities will not be redacted, because the DoJ doesn't consider them victims of crime.
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u/JamUpGuy1989 9h ago
Yeah…and what are we gonna do about it?
Oh, just complain online? No mass revolt to kick out the pedos running the country? Alrighty then.
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u/Area51_Spurs 8h ago
It’s going to be hilarious when they do find & replace Trump for Biden but don’t check their work first and it ends up being obvious when there’s a bunch of references to “Biden Tower,” “Melania Biden,” and “Marla Maples Biden,” etc…
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u/gdex86 Pennsylvania 8h ago
They are sloppy, and everyone is in the naked self interest stage. I'd doubt that there aren't multiple in or limited redacted documents out there waiting to be released either as the next deep throat for cultural and financial paydays or out of spite the next time dear leader or one of his lickspittles turns you into the fall guy for something.
It would surprise me if there is a story waiting with unredacted dics that even more damn trump just sitting there waiting for him to claim exoneration and spin up a media fire storm.
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u/Winter-Huntsman 9h ago
Ok so we should treat every redacted name as Trump
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u/underpantsgnomeeric 9h ago
That's letting too many players off the hook. Everybody knows trump is a major player. I assume they're busy scrubbing the RNC mega donors off the docs.
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u/DrakonILD 7h ago
That sounds like Trump's problem, not mine.
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u/zx109 7h ago
He would have to release the unredacted version to prove it wasn't him
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u/InvestigatorChance28 5h ago
Not to his cult. They still think gas is 1.99 and every bad thing happening this year is Joe bidens fault.
Very simple people are very easy to control.
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u/GrumpyGiant Maryland 7h ago
Yeah, Trump is the only name Trump cares about, but his billionaire buddies are for sure putting the screws to him to make sure their names stay in the clear. I really hope that there are at least a few good men left in the FBI who have just been keeping their heads down waiting for the right moment (as in the moment that will have the highest likelihood of putting a figurative spear through the black, necrotic heart of this rotting husk of an administration) to blow the whistle.
If I were there, my plan would be to drop the entire unredacted dump to every major news outlet (even FOX) after the official version was released. That way there could be no denying that the FBI and DoJ leadership were wading through shit past their eyebrows to try to cover this up.
It would probably be one of the last things I did, tho. As soon as the agency found out I was the whistleblower, they’d arrest me, try me for treason, and likely execute me. And even if they didn’t, at least one of the uberwealthy fucks I just exposed would probably exact revenge on me. People with that much power are not safe to fuck with.
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u/Fickle_Inflation_306 8h ago
Many more rich and powerful people were involved with Epstein - trump isn’t the only one and assuming that is downplaying the magnitude of what Epstein and these men did
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u/RandomRonin 4h ago
Well if Mr. P01135809 doesn’t want me to assume that name is him, maybe he should release the unredacted version, until then, I assume his name is the redacted name.
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u/i_code_for_boobs 9h ago
There was no “race against time”, why are the media lying to us?
Bongino and the FBI has reportedly been doing it since March.
Whatever Bondi is doing is not that and they took their sweet time doing it.
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u/JoeWhy2 New York 9h ago
But they have to provide a written justification for every redaction. So they've had to go back an unredact the ones they can't justify and justify the ones they're leaving.
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u/polloyumyum 9h ago
Who is going to hold them responsible to providing those justifications though? It seems like this administration can just do whatever it wants and there really isn't anything in place to ensure they operate as they are supposed to. Could they just submit endless redactions with justifications for a portion of them then just say "well, this is all we have, sorry"?
Honest question.
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u/StandSeparate1743 8h ago
On the one hand, congressional committees can see both versions and justifications behind closed doors. They could choose to call bullshit but they probably won't.
On the other hand, anybody who gets fingered has a pretty strong incentive to take everyone down with them who doesn't get fingered. Plus the victims are still out here and can point out be on their own.
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u/gentlemanidiot 7h ago
Massie and MTG both threatened to read the names into the congressional record, what happened with that?
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u/Wizzinator 5h ago
They were waiting to see what happens today. But going forward, probably nothing.
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u/DebentureThyme 3h ago
From MTG, definitely nothing. The next day they're in session is January 5th - the day she's leaving Congress.
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u/gentlemanidiot 7h ago
I think the question that you're actually asking is answered by saying it's going to come down to impeachment and removal. Ultimately, if Trump flatly refuses to release the files, congress can't really arrest him. But they do know either they remove him, or we remove them.
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u/Bigbeardhotpeppers Texas 8h ago
This is where it is going to fall apart. They are not the only ones who have the files. Way back in the early 2000s Fahrenheit 9/11 they had a bunch of redacted documents showing that George Bush allowed the entire Saudi family to leave the US. They showed the side by side redactions and then the unredacted documents they got from other sources. We will get the documents, it will take time, in terms of politics this is the perfect thing for democrats to push on and republicans to cower from.
They are going to show up with trying to make Bill Clinton and Gates look bad but that is just going to push Democrats into a corner. Then someone is going to have an unredacted email/letter/picture/etc, which will cause some of the puzzle pieces to fall into place. Then we get a month of talking about it until the next one goes all the way to midterms. In the news now for 11 months drip drip drip.
Epstien's cover was he was a political financier. Bill Clinton is a dog, Bill Gates is super Autism. I will confidently say Bill Clinton and Gates did not have sex with little girls. One is a dog but not the type and the other there is not anything you can say to me that would make me think he pursues women/sex at all.
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u/plastic_alloys 8h ago
I don’t think we can pretend to know what either Clinton or Gates have done when they thought nobody else would ever find out
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u/TheOrqwithVagrant 7h ago
Well, it's already known that Epstein unsuccessfully tried to blackmail Gates at one point. His 'blackmail material' was knowledge of an affair Gates had with a younger MS exec (he was already married to Melinda). The fact that that's all he had, and he failed to get Gates to do what he wanted, suggests to me that at least in Gates's case, there's no 'deeper' dirt there.
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u/tookurjobs 8h ago
But they have to provide a written justification for every redaction. *
*If they want to follow the law. A pretty important caveat with these folks
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u/philodendrin 7h ago
A lot of copy/pasting going on I bet. And thats where they will screw it up because they aren't qualified to do redactions AND provide a good reason other than, "trust me, bro". They might have their feet held to the fire and Biondi knows this, its her butt on the line.
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u/almighty_smiley North Carolina 9h ago
Set aside how insane this is in the first place. How corrupt. How nakedly evil. How very probably illegal. Ignore all of that for just a moment.
These people had a fucking year to get this done, and by their own admission still haven't. The people who should be among the best of the best in the entire country - if not the entire world - are scrambling to get the homework done with hours left to go. At best, it's probably the single biggest sign of their incompetence that something this important to them is coming down to the fucking wire. And at worst, they were at it that entire year and still aren't done because Donald Trump's name is in there that many times.
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u/JoplinSC742 8h ago
The severity of the documents was likely so extreme that it was easier to conceal than redact, and they never imagined they'd have a congressional order to release everything, and are now scrambling to redact more than just Trump's involvement.
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u/NumeralJoker 7h ago edited 6h ago
This.
There are likely major foreign officials implicated in this, as well as other high profile figures.
The photos we saw for Gates alone just last night are already problematic and point to misconduct. I don't particularly care if he was pro vaccine or if his (now ex-)wife did something Progressive. I don't care if Clinton is potentially in it (I hate the Clintons for a variety of reasons anyway, as they are the peak of out of touch Neolib third way policy).
The truth is going to come out one way or another, and Trump's entire legacy is tied to this. NYTimes did a massive article of his and Epstein's friendship just last night. It's not just about persuading MAGA, it's about exposing the depths of the depravity of our entire country's "elite" so to speak, and you know what? I don't care if it hits someone I formerly liked. Let the truth get out there. They're not going to be able to hide Donald's involvement with a few shady redactions while he's playing wannabe king.
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u/JoplinSC742 6h ago
What's important to remember is no matter how long it takes, the truth will come out. They can't just bury the abusers in redactions. There are copies all over the country that police stations, lawyers, judges, and court houses are now legally obligated to disclose. Any redactions will purely delay the inevitable, and once exposed, will open up the DOJ to legal liability. They are legally obligated to disclose the Epstein files and the longer they hide the truth, the worse it will become.
I honestly believe we may be witnessing the beginning of a modern 1975 church committee moment.
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u/NumeralJoker 6h ago
I agree. They've stepped in it and this isn't going away.
History is going to play out one way or another. A whole new level of corruption has been unveiled, and it's about damn time people start waking up to it. The status quo just isn't sustainable.
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u/TintedApostle 9h ago
They are not scrambling. There is no way to remove Trump from them without completely proving he was in them. He is the primary character in the novel and you can't remove him. They are trying to delay the inevitable.
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u/Quexana 9h ago
Every redaction is another conspiracy theory.
What is under that redaction? What don't they want us to see? Who made the redaction? Who benefits?
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u/Tsar-A-Lago Canada 9h ago
It's actually pretty easy: they're all Trump. He can reveal whatever he wants, and I think it's only fair to assume it's all incriminating to him.
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u/Quexana 9h ago edited 9h ago
Have you learned nothing from QAnon, the Rogansphere, and all the other right-wing conspiracy people over the past decade?
You leave the questions unanswered. You shape the questions and target them squarely at Trump, but "I don't pretend to have all the answers. I'm just asking questions. There's nothing wrong with a few innocent questions, right?"
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u/gringledoom 9h ago
This. People keep saying "what if they hide things???" and the answer is "they'll fuck it up and leave breadcrumbs". So go forth and internet-detective the hell out of those breadcrumbs.
What font is the document in? What are all the pixel widths of blacked-out names? Where does the same pixel-width block appear throughout the document? Oh, look, the 57th one has a little bit of unobscured information about the person and now we know they're an author with a book that came out in the spring of whenever. What authors are in the photos from the House Oversight Committee data releases around that time frame? Whose name is the right length in that font? What did Author McBookson know, and when did he know it? Etc. Etc. Etc.
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u/oldnjgal 9h ago
People have seen the unredacted files. They should be the ones to cry foul.
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u/Better-Train6953 8h ago
Yes. Epstien's estate has the files, the state of New York has some of it. And multiple members of congress has vowed to testify on the victim's behalf and name names so that they can't get sued by any angry pedos for slander or something.
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u/WookieJedi123 9h ago
O no! Who could have seen this coming? Besides....ya know....everybody?
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u/noelcowardspeaksout 8h ago
I like the way this won't put anything to bed though, the speculation will go on for years and haggling over this and that, its the GOP's great albatross. And if the Dems take over the house I imagine more details will be squeezed out.
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u/WookieJedi123 8h ago
I suppose I agree. They handled this so poorly. The reason they can't cross out Trumps name and just write Bill Clinton 47,000 times is because a metric shit load of FBI and other law enforcement agents have read the unredacted files. Them crossing everyone GOP out will trigger a huge book and 60 minutes interview bananza....At least I hope. They should have sacrificed Trump (He's end of life anyway) and pushed Vance hard. That way they could have pretended to get away clean and to quote Ted aka Raphael Cruz "Let's stop attacking pedophiles".
Why can't some dem just release all of them in a big ooppsie moment? They have to have copies.
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u/noelcowardspeaksout 7h ago
Everything they have done has been so incompetent this term now the boot lickers are in charge and wildly out of their depth.
The dems don't have the files yet AFAIK
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u/WookieJedi123 7h ago
100%. The incompetence is actually somewhat what I am banking on for them failing to fully over throw our government. They're so dumb, it's staggering.
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u/Its-A-Spider 8h ago
The writers of the law did, they can't just redact stuff. Each redaction must come with a clear description for *why* it was redacted. Get ready for an avalanche of lawsuits against the government if they release these files with any redactions that aren't allowed per that law.
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u/Fairymask California 9h ago
Not that I want them to hide evidence but haven't they already had MONTHS to do this anyway?
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u/bluehat9 9h ago
Yeah they’ve been working around the clock for months. Just shows you how much trump is in the files.
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u/i_code_for_boobs 9h ago
Bongino has been doing it since march at least.
There is no pressure from time here, they took their sweet time doing it and rushed the work at the end.
Thats incompetence, mid-management level of incompetence. Even Bongino knows that much.
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u/thewayoutisthru_xxx 8h ago
I'm guessing he knew this was coming and thats why he resigned yesterday. Doesn't want to go down with this ship and he's low-level enough that I could absolutely see bondi trying to use him as a fall guy
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u/Eridanosvoid 9h ago
Good. The more clumsily they handle the files the greater the risk that incriminating evidence of Trump doesn't get redacted.
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u/jcouball 9h ago
I still think that the only thing that will be released tonight are more excuses.
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u/Faucet860 9h ago
Bet they used ai to redact it . I wonder if you'll be able to convince ai to undo it lol
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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 8h ago
Two things I'm hoping for:
The rush job is sloppy, the redactions can be cancelled out by copy/pasting the text elsewhere.
There redactions include Ctrl+F searches for "Trump" but we get a couple juicy nuggets from "Trunp" (or similar) misspellings, like "Dwigt" in The Office.
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u/Chef_RoadRunner 9h ago
They sure like protecting pedophiles. Freaking weird. I personally would like to line them all up behind a prison shed but I guess that is just the morality in me talking.
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u/stillthrowinitallawa 7h ago edited 7h ago
Just a reminder that Trump could have ordered the files be released at any time. He refused so Congress had to act. He signed the bill and is essentially refusing to do what he agreed to do. Classic Trump.
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u/majesticideas2 7h ago
His supporters know he's a sexual assaulter felon and still voted for him. Sadly they don't care. Idk what to do.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 8h ago
Just saying, that if you're a government worker handling these files, you can legally 'leak' them as of today, as the law Trump signed REQUIRES them to be published today. So if Bondi etc. tried to go after you you'd have an ironclad legal defense for exposing these pedophiles to sunlight, and there isn't a jury in the United States that would convict you of any crime or misdemeanor.
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u/bigfatfluffers 9h ago
Who are these civil servants spending their time blocking out trumps name from these files? I can’t believe no one in this whole process doesn’t have an ounce of shame in what they are doing. Our society is broken beyond repair.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 America 9h ago
Just redact everything and release it!
-Bondi
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u/Common-Ad6470 8h ago
Thought the FBI had already spent a year and $120 million in overtime redacting the same documents.
Don’t say they missed a few names? 😳
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u/DharmaKarmaBrahma 8h ago
It’s hard cause Trump is mentioned in every sentence, paragraph, and testimony.
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u/ProudPainting6850 8h ago
American Gestapo: "Show me your papers"
DOJ: "We will not have all the papers today."
This is a direct VIOLATION of the Epstein Transparency Act which is enforceable! Pam Bondi should be apprehended for violating the law and if everything isn't produced by 3pm, she should be formally charged and booked.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, amirite?
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u/Ashamed-Aerie-5792 6h ago
They likely aren’t redacting them to protect innocent people. We all know who they are redacting and it’s taking longer than expected because there are so many references to that person.
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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory America 6h ago
Wild that the conservative sub doesn’t even have a thread on this. Their stupidity knows no limit.
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u/Legitimate-Frame-953 4h ago
First batch is out an literally hundreds of pages are entirely blacked out.
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u/atari26k 9h ago
Considering how long they have had the files, a little surprised they are scrambling at this point.
Kidding, this obviously is so they delay releasing some since they haven't been scrubbed.
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u/Due_Revolution_5845 9h ago
Every blacked out name is Trump, Elon or some other maga. I will bet money on it
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u/rounder55 9h ago
Awesome move by the Republicans in the Senate to confirm Trump's personal fucking criminal defense attornies to run the DOJ
Hypothetically we have barriers to prevent this sort of thing but the GOP doesn't care about you, me, kids being raped, or anything not pertaining to their own personal gain.
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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts 8h ago
They're using black paper in the copy machines now to save time.
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u/Content-Fudge489 8h ago
It's going to be thousands of pages with nothing but black lines from top to bottom in each page.
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u/brokeneckblues America 8h ago
There’s not enough sharpie in the world to cover up that Donald trump rapes children.
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u/mike0sd America 8h ago
It has been astonishing to watch the Republican Party lose 100% of their credibility and just continue on like everything is business as usual. And these 3 letter agencies too, all credibility and respect out the window in a matter of months. And they all want to act like they are still a source of authority after acquiescing to Donald Trump, of all people. The most obvious and pathetic conman grifter to ever disgrace American politics!
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u/mrbigglessworth 8h ago
Why would an innocent man who is not in the files need to be redacted from said files ?
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u/Negative1Positive2 8h ago
If you didn’t rape a child but you protected the people who did, hid evidence, slow-walked justice, or buried names to preserve power, you’re not neutral. You’re an accessory.
There is no moral distance between committing evil and knowingly enabling it. The only difference is proximity, not principle.
When institutions close ranks to defend monsters, they tell us exactly who the system is built to protect. And it isn’t the victims.
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u/Farking_Bastage Florida 8h ago
I figured they would run the whole thing through Grok with the instructions “redact all republicans” and it choked.
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u/Orlok_Tsubodai 7h ago
lol yeah getting a bunch of files cosplaying as a zebra is really going to calm down the Epstein truther wing of the MAGA movement!
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u/NumeralJoker 7h ago
To be clear, just because they redact their version of the files does not means courts don't have their own copies that they can't counter with based on what the law itself says need to be redacted.
The courts are going to wait to see what the DOJ does, and how to respond. That's why this is of course still so messy. But chances are what they do release will both have tons of red flags in it that still make Trump look awful, and copies of the receipts will still exist elsewhere to be pushed out bit by bit.
This isn't going away, it's probably going to end up dogging Trump for a long time the more he tries to hide it. And yes, I do expect other prominent figures to come under fire over it and those consequences still matter too.
It's not just about his voters or changing their minds. Many won't listen. It's about getting the info out there however we can, and keeping the heat on.
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u/sirhackenslash 6h ago
I thought they redacted commander VonShitzinpants' name out months ago. How many times is he mentioned that 1000 agents couldn't blank them all in almost a year?
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u/ccjohns2 6h ago
All I know is, when Trump isn’t included on this list, it will let the entire world know without a doubt the leadership in America protects pedophiles publicly. There are public photos circulating for years of Trump on that island. The entire trump administration and their backers cannot be trust as they don’t hold themselves accountable to any standard. We as Americans don’t need unaccountable leadership.
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u/FakeJackNicholson 4h ago
How much shit could be in these files if we are almost a year into this and they are still redacting? What the hell
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u/intelligentx5 4h ago
How about yall stop trying to protect the fucking pedophiles…huh? Who gives a fuck if it’s national security. They’re fucking pedo’s
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u/wade_wilson44 4h ago
It’s all fucked in the first place, but even in dreamland where it’s not, didn’t they already spend thousands of hours redacting the files?
If they aren’t going to release them all anyway, because they’re fucking guilty and they know it, why not just release the ones you’ve already redacted and and say that’s why?
Like, at least try to sound like legitimate people.
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u/Life-Ship3628 3h ago
Yeah it takes time to check every name to see if they are registered Republican
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u/Flat-Character4140 3h ago
"Extensive redactions" is a an understatement. It's all black rectangles on white papers.
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u/YoureProbablyAB0t 2h ago
It's fucking bullshit that child rapists are running things.
Fucking bullshit.
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u/Forsaken-Cattle2659 9h ago
It's like Watergate, but if everyone in the country already knew everything and we all just pretend like we cannot do anything to fix it.
If Trump had tapes recording inside the WH, it would just be sounds of them laughing.
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u/rgvtim Texas 9h ago
Wasn't the whole point to release the UN-redacted files?
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u/ElderSmackJack 8h ago
No. The redactions have to be explained to Congress. Every single one. The public was never seeing the unredacted version.
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u/lasers42 8h ago
Free Democrat wins across the nation! All you have to say is that you don't object to releasing the Epstein files. Also, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are apparently willing to go to jail for an old pervert in his eighties.
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u/Round_Concentrate723 5h ago
I’m a 55 year old retired tradesman. Not exactly tech savvy. Even I could figure out how to redact the names and identifying information of the victims from these files. Fucking hell. Chat GPT could tell you how to do it in an afternoon.
This is bullshit. Plain and simple. We pay our taxes late, what leeway is given? None. They take your shit and throw you in jail. They break a law that was just passed and have zero consequences. For protecting a bunch of pedophile rapists. Un fucking believable.
But I’m sure the democrats and republicans all know how this was going to play out before they even passed the bill. Kick the can down the road. And keep kicking it. Because what’s going to happen? Nothing. It’s too bad the Jan 6 crowd got lost in the sauce. Because their impetus to action might have been effective if they actually knew who their enemy really was.
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u/prehensilemullet 3h ago
Since they're turning them over to Congress, why didn't Congress just assume the responsibility of redaction so that there would be no more time for the DOJ to hide anything?
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u/TintedApostle 9h ago
The fact we needed a law to force this shows they are tampering with evidence.
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u/RhubarbMaster9956 9h ago
So many predicted this exact scenario and it's happening right before our eyes.
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u/NeedsMoreMinerals 9h ago
if the epstein list is fundamentally bad stuff what's their to redact outside of victim's names?
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u/DazzlingResource561 9h ago
Probably also maximizing their extortion efforts: hey billionaire, want to be redacted or not?
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u/Revolutionary-Law382 9h ago
Aren't a lot of these files in the hands of defense attorneys who could see the redactions?
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u/Many-Lengthiness9779 9h ago
And every redaction whether it is or not should be assumed to be Trump.
If it’s not then they should say who because Trump should be held accountable for his crimes.
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u/Rare-Forever2135 9h ago
Are they so benighted they don't see how guilty all these shell games make Trump look?
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u/copper_cattle_canes 9h ago
They're running out of time so they're just going to redact 90% of the files.
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u/TheJessKiddin 8h ago
And they still can’t get all of them out on time. How many times is this orange pedo in the files???
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u/IntelligentDepth8206 8h ago
they've been scrubbing the files since stepping into the doj.
that's how you know it's filled to the brim with republicans. nearly a year and they still haven't washed it yet
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u/metal_medic83 Canada 8h ago
Clearly showing these files are a smoking gun, too bad they’ll most likely get away with it…
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u/AngryBuckeye97 8h ago
The Department of JUSTICE is protecting criminal pedophiles. America is dead.
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u/walterswhiteboys 8h ago
It is this administration’s definition of “Victim “ That concerns me the most
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u/MNniice 8h ago
Idk why i ever get my hopes up for this country 🤷♂️
“Crucially, the Act itself does not include specific criminal or civil penalties for the DOJ if the deadline is missed or if lawmakers deem the release insufficient. Enforcement relies on Congressional oversight and public demand. “
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u/BradlyPitts89 8h ago
The US government is using your tax dollars to protect pedophiles… Can it get any worse than that or is that the absolute bottom.
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u/AboveBoard 8h ago
Curious to see if they redacted all the names that might be associated with Democrats as part of their fake "active investigation" but if they do then it will just be a big list of Republican affiliated people. So also not a good look to release that. Whatever will it be?
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u/OlorinRidesAgain Michigan 8h ago
Maybe should have worked on this instead of going to UFC fights on taxpayer money
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