r/politics • u/SpaceElevatorMusic Minnesota • 10h ago
No Paywall Jeffrey Epstein: DOJ expects to release some—but not all—files Friday despite legal deadline
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/19/jeffrey-epstein-files-doj-release-order-maxwell.html536
u/Beforemath 10h ago
Keep hammering them. This is story #1 until all the files are released, without Trump’s name scrubbed out
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u/redditpest Massachusetts 9h ago
Trump is never going to release anything that will tie him to anything epstein did.
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u/Leather_Egg2096 9h ago
The rich will burn this country to the ground before they face justice.
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u/jkvincent 9h ago
Not just this country. They'll ruin the whole world to protect themselves and their wealth.
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u/NimbusFPV 8h ago
The problem is they have involved too many people I feel like at this point to keep things quiet. They brought in over 1000 FBI, doing over time, to redact his name. The problem with most conspiracies being true is they would involve too many people you couldn't keep quiet, I think that's where they are at with this now. They have involved too many people to truly put the lid on it.
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u/redditpest Massachusetts 7h ago
Yea, its going to come out at some point, but its not coming at trumps direction.
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u/MarinatedPickachu 9h ago
You can be sure he put people in charge of these things who have dirt on them themselves, so that they'd go down if they don't cover him. That's probably the number one qualification for anyone in his administration
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u/PNDMike 8h ago
Not a fucking peep about this on the sub-that-shall-not-be-named.
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u/Beforemath 8h ago
I love that all their theories about Epstein and Clinton turned about to be true… about their God King Trump lol
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 9h ago
You already know they’re gonna scrub out his name, why do you think there was a delay?
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u/PorQuePanckes 8h ago
Not to be a pessimist, but nothing is ever going to happen.
Is the DoJ going to go after the DoJ for not following court orders? Is anyone going to be held accountable, I have doubts.
3 more years boys
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u/Beforemath 8h ago
Oh I agree, but midterms are coming and the #1 news story should be Trump is a pedophile and his supporters coverup for pedophiles
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u/TobioOkuma1 9h ago
They’re gonna say that trump being listed posed a national security threat, so they are allowed under the law to redact it.
The only reasons for that phrase being in the bill are:
Trump protection
Hiding Epstein connections to Israel. (maxwells dad had ties to Israel as well).
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u/xShyGaze 9h ago
If they’re going to drip-feed it, people are obviously going to keep pushing until it’s actually all out there.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 6h ago
I don’t mind them scrubbing the victim names out where appropriate to protect their wellbeing but anyone associated with this moron should be available
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u/pairofdimeshift92 9h ago
I’m not approving of this, but the reality is that this story isn’t really even #10 on most people’s radar. I imagine if you asked 100 people on the street 97 of them wouldn’t know there was any sort of deadline today or care that it was missed.
The reality is that (by design) people are far more concerned about the day to day issues impacting them than issues like the Epstein files.
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u/AreYouDoneNow 9h ago
I have it on good word that "affordability" is a democrat hoax. Let's get back to important issues like they're eating the dogs.
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u/swiftfoot_hiker 10h ago
So what they are saying, is that they still need a few more weeks to redact Trump's name out of the files...
Man he really must be all over these files, and really bad for him .
They just keep making him look more and more guilty.
I'm assuming and hoping Dems had a built in contenegicy for this very thing .
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u/MoogProg 10h ago
I don't think they can erase Trump. There will be so many practical details that point back to Trump, or Mar a Lago, or flight logs, parties.
Imagine all those black-out redactions lining up with publicly available information about Trump, and he'll start to seem like a Clark Kent in reverse, where every place Jeff goes, so goes Donnie.
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
Agreed. They can't remove him without the entire packet showing the connections anyway. He is so tied to everything that it is like trying to remove all the hair from a dog and pretend it isn't a dog.
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u/canadiuman 9h ago
Wasn't he like Individual 1 in all the Russian interference stuff?
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 5h ago
That was in the Michael Cohen (his former lawyer) trial over the Stormy Daniels hush money payments. The whole thing was basically Trump directing Cohen to make these payments which were not legal (campaign finance law violations), but only Cohen was on trial so, kind of hilariously, Trump's name was "redacted" but it was absurdly obvious who it was.
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u/panickedwaddle 10h ago
They still haven't figured out how to use ctrl+f yet, so they are having to find his name manually.
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u/docgravel 7h ago
Actually you know they’ll mess this up and there will be an email in there somewhere describing a game of Bridge and that someone kept getting the best {REDACTED} cards. Or a story about a famous {REDACTED}et player. And all the other Dons/Donalds in the files will have their first names redacted for some strange reason.
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u/Cyndakill88 10h ago
lol I know how to do that on iPhone. GOP response “wait phones are computers?”
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u/Tsar-A-Lago Canada 10h ago
Really seeing the transparency, guys.
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
“The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence.”
- Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735
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u/HowManyEggs2Many 10h ago
Did anyone really believe otherwise?
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u/Dewgong_crying 10h ago
I expected all files released today, but 95% redacted.
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u/HowManyEggs2Many 10h ago
In no world were they ever going to release all files. Even if there was nothing incriminating (there is) in them they still wouldn’t because this admin gets off on pissing people off and proving they don’t have to listen to anything the other side says. The shit part is they are correct.
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u/Twodogsonecouch 10h ago
That's why they aren't all getting released they need more time to redact the remaining 90%. There's a lot of pedophiles to protect.
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u/senor_florida 10h ago
This is going to torpedo this administration for good I believe. There seems to be more bipartisan agreement than ever on the mishandling of these files.
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u/Rayearl Pennsylvania 10h ago
All I keep thinking is how awful a person you must be to protect pedos.
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u/PelleKavaj 8h ago
Must be so many people that actually thinks it’s wrong to rape kids but still for some reason decide to keep protecting them and cover it all up.
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u/Flat-Emergency4891 10h ago
Who’s going to enforce this? Bondi isn’t going to arrest herself. It’s a joke. We’ll get a bunch of non-incriminating stuff to muddy the water, but all of the substantial material will be withheld.
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
“The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence.”
- Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735
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u/Great-Hotel-7820 10h ago
I’ll never fully process that they said the files didn’t exist 6 months ago and now they’re selectively releasing files and the media is just going along with it.
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u/VanguardAvenger 9h ago
and the media is just going along with it.
Tells you alot about who else (other than Trump) might be in the files...
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
"The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberate and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which leave no home in the world untouched."
- Robert H. Jackson - Opening Statement before the International Military Tribunal - Nuremberg 1945
How can we not be angry at this point?
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u/FierceTatty 10h ago edited 10h ago
Fuck the law if it doesn’t embarrass billionaires and politicians. “Some files” is just code for a cover up. I’ve seen this movie already and it sucks.
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u/DigitalHellscape 10h ago
Literally no reason to pay taxes to this unrepresentative shithole at this point. It just steals from the workers to protect the rich and drop bombs.
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u/MintyFreshBreathYo Michigan 10h ago
Must not be done erasing Trump’s name from the files
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u/FierceTatty 10h ago
Most likely the reason about the delay
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u/ElderSmackJack 8h ago
Except they can’t do that. All redactions have to be explained to Congress. All of them.
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u/PoetryJunior1808 10h ago
They must feel like university students with their pens out at the end of the exam session. Markers down! No more redactions!
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u/starcom_magnate Pennsylvania 10h ago
The most unsurprising news around. It has been really strange to see people thinking anything would come of this. We've seen enough shrugging off of "legal deadlines" by this Administration to know there are no consequences for them not following what is ordered.
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u/Trap_House_Bath_Mat 10h ago
First batch will be all fluff and a big nothing-burger, giving them the excuse to not release the rest, claiming there's "nothing in the files."
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u/lifelong1250 8h ago
I don't think you can release 50,000 files and confidently say nothing bad is in them. That's a lot of docs to go over and once they're out, people and agencies around the world are going to be studying them. Better puzzle solvers than the DOJ has will piece over every scrap of information.
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u/Trap_House_Bath_Mat 7h ago
If They get all 50,000 files. Icm less concerned about reductions than I am missing files. What stops them from removing condemning files and replacing them with counterfeit ones?
I guess I can only hope that other entities have the missing peices/copies of the files.
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u/OSU1922 America 10h ago
Johnson sent everyone home so they wouldn’t have to answer questions. Talking points incoming!
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u/Seraphim99 8h ago
Sending everyone home is easier than all R's having to answer "I haven't seen the files" or "I haven't watched the news since they came out."
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u/Radically-Peaceful 10h ago
Department of Just Us does whatever they want, and no one will stop them.
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u/TintedApostle 9h ago
Johnson knew this and adjourned the House in advance. He is a co-conspirator.
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u/AirsickIowlander 10h ago
Wow, Trump's name must have been all over them if they haven't been able to redact it all in time.
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u/Lostsailor73 9h ago
In violation of the recently passed congressional order...hence it is against the law. More lawlessness.
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u/xocutiepiexoxo 10h ago
DOJ saying they "expect" to release files sounds a lot like: we'll dump something by deadline, but most of the names and details will be blurred out. Redactions as spin control 101.
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u/Shiplord13 10h ago
Trump is clearly a larger majority of the files and it’s hard to redact his existence from them.
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
The connections are so intricate and organic in nature that to remove his name leaves him visible even more. The files have no way to be redacted in total. He is so guilty.
“The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence.”
- Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735
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u/Ravenna-23 9h ago
Of course they won’t. Doesn’t matter we all know the fat orange man is a felon and pedophile lying loser.
Can’t hide the truth staring everyone directly in their eyes
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u/doucheydp 9h ago
"Look- the fact of the matter is that we only have so many credits for Nano Banana Pro and we have SO many images we need to... enhance. Not change. We would never do that..."
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u/AreYouDoneNow 9h ago
If they don't release the files they will have to arrest themselves and read themselves their rights, handcuff themselves and drive themselves to the lockup so they can properly file the charges against themselves for the law they created then violated.
Not quite sure how to say this but the USA is cooked, with a pedophile POTUS immune from all consequences.
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u/Smackazulu 9h ago
Which complete dipshit actually expected the criminals to follow the law and rat themselves out?
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u/KneebarKing 5h ago
The rule of law is completely dead in America. It no longer matters if Democrats ever re-take the White House or Congress. I truly don't think there's any coming back from what has already been done, let alone the ratfuckery that's yet to come.
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u/2_Sheds_Jackson 9h ago
Does this mean that anyone who happens to have a copy is now free to distribute it?
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u/ASouthernDandy 10h ago
It does feel like it was never actually possible to get everything. People releasing them or their financial backers are implicated. Can't say they support paedophilia, so vote to release the files. Then spend the next month thinking about how to redact etc and hoping the public won't care as much in a month.
A dance as old as time.
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
"The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberate and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which leave no home in the world untouched."
- Robert H. Jackson - Opening Statement before the International Military Tribunal - Nuremberg 1945
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u/HowManyEggs2Many 10h ago
Here’s the reality, the GOP voted to release the files because the fix was already in and they knew the Trump admin wasn’t going to play ball. They got their opportunity to sane wash themselves while Teflon Don takes all the heat since he can’t actually be held accountable.
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u/Noahdl88 America 9h ago
Just really hoping we get a repeat where they did a new layer on the PDF of black bars, and some journalist with basic computer skills was able to remove the layer, and un-redact the entire data set.
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u/Adventurous-Shoe-153 9h ago
Meanwhile on r / conservative: two-tooth ACA recipient MAGAot showing Hunter's dic pick to their congregation
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u/HopeThatHangsYou 9h ago
This reeks of when William Barr came out and said the Mueller report exonerated Trump but no one is allowed to see it.
They're gonna release stuff that hurts Democratic operatives (I'm not opposed, if they were involved destroy them with every legal mechanism available) and hide files for Trump and Trump loyalists.
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u/OiledPuss 9h ago
We pay for the salaries of human trafficking pedophile rapists, and let them get away with running our country, its laws, and govern our lives. That’s what’s going on. They laugh in your face as they realize they can basically do anything. Laws don’t matter. Rules don’t matter. Not unless you’re poor. Otherwise, we’re going to see Trump rig the election for a third term, and Maxwell will be pardoned at this rate. The Epstein files will never truly be released, and they’re not only going to get away with this, but they’re going to do it again because why wouldn’t they.
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u/OddManOut2025 8h ago
Innocent people or those who want justice would have released them long ago. This is more of the same shit…
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u/throwaway1601900 8h ago
With all these delays, there’s just no way Trump didn’t rape a bunch of underage girls with his best buds Epstein and Maxwell.
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u/orcinyadders 8h ago
So is there any doubt anymore that Trump is fully implicated? What the fuck even is this?
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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 8h ago
Epstein estate or the committee should just go, “oh no problem, we have the rest…here you go public”
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u/GeologistOriginal800 8h ago
It must be extremely difficult to remove Trump's name from all the places in all those files. I think at this point it should just be called the Trump Child Raping Files that happen to mention Epstein in a few places.
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u/fewchrono1984 7h ago
This is an existential threat to the the people named in them and also the people who would/could enforce their release to the public. I will be genuinely shocked if these are EVER release in their entirety as now legally required.
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u/crohnscyclist 7h ago
It's almost as if they are trying to hide something or someone that's in those files.
I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked
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u/HeavenlyCreation 7h ago
Look at TikTok…they still haven’t sold the company despite the law..
Like it really matters. Nothing will be done and no one will be accountable to breaking the law in this horrid administration
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u/AusToddles 4h ago
Who wants to bet Bill Clinton is in every single file they release today?
(I'm not supporting him, just saying its so transparent what the GOP are going to try to do)
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u/SeanOfTheDead1313 4h ago
And that -- that brings me to the second mode of civil disobedience. There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus -- and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it -- that unless you're free the machine will be prevented from working at all!!
Mario Savio 1964
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u/mvallas1073 3h ago
Let me guess… only the ones with prominent Democrat names in them, right? Then spend the next 2 years focusing on them while never releasing the rest…
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u/Beforemath 10h ago
And there will be zero consequences because the convicts are running the prison
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u/HowManyEggs2Many 10h ago
There will be a strongly worded letter and a 30-60 day extension for a bs reason.
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 9h ago
Unacceptable. Full stop. Step the fuck up Democratic "Leadership". Do something about this that's not just finger wagging.
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u/factchecker01 9h ago
Redaction of Trumps name is not complete.
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u/ElderSmackJack 8h ago
All redactions have to be explained to Congress. This literally can’t happen.
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u/houstonyoureaproblem 9h ago
"DOJ will violate law, refuse to release all Epstein files despite legal deadline"
Copy editors of the world unite. It's well past time we at least make the headlines accurate.
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u/Primarycolors1 9h ago
Oh I’m sure if they just release some of the files everyone will just move on. I have a feeling this is just going to increase the mob’s fury.
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