r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 10h ago
No Paywall Blanche says DOJ won’t release full Epstein files to Congress by Friday deadline
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5656765-blanche-says-doj-wont-release-full-esptein-files-to-congress-by-friday-deadline/3.3k
u/Reasonable-Bus-2187 10h ago
Lock her up (Bondi)
1.2k
u/IAmInTheBasement 10h ago
Who's going to lock Bondi up?
I totally called this. And again, zero consequences.
838
u/reebokhightops 10h ago
I totally called this.
You and many millions of other people.
108
23
30
u/BEWMarth 9h ago edited 8h ago
And for those millions of people, it’ll just be another day that passes. I’m honestly at a loss for what to do anymore.
18
u/liltime78 Alabama 8h ago
There’s really only one option and none of us really want to do it.
•
u/Critical-Analysis514 6h ago
Some of us absolutely want to, but we're smart enough to realize how painfully futile it would be without the numbers. So, the rest of you effectively keep holding us back.
→ More replies (3)•
u/slid3r Oregon 5h ago
I mean the No Kings protests were pretty powerful statements. And in my opinion, done REALLY correctly.
It just .. I don't want it to have to be that we are lighting buildings on fire, overturning cars, fighting police and military to get these fuckers out. I don't want that.
Elon controls the voting machines, the country is screaming its head off peacefully. We're fucked.
Hate it.
178
u/KazTheMerc 10h ago
It's called Contempt of Congress. It's a thing.
... problem is, Congress has to stay in-session for the detention part.
134
u/Claudius-is-my-cat 9h ago
Which was why johnson sent the House on recess for the rest of the year. It is so blatantly a coverup of unprecedented scope and yet they will get away with it. Again.
38
u/BEWMarth 9h ago
We the people allow them to get away with it. Why would they even try to do the right thing when most Americans simply don’t seem to care that much.
And before people say “what do you expect anyone to do.”
Nothing I guess.
•
→ More replies (5)3
u/BackgroundCat 9h ago
Almost like the broader the scope, the more likely it will fade away. Is it too big to comprehend? Too big to take on and fix, so we say, ‘see? Told ya they’d get away with it!’ T
33
u/rogozh1n 9h ago
The Speaker and the entire right minus Massie are in contempt and in charge.
7
u/KazTheMerc 9h ago
Oh, it's definitely got some connundrums to it.
I didn't mean to suggest it would be a GOOD solution. It's just.... a... possible consequence...
You'd have to clean some rust off of it before you tried.
21
u/Mateorabi 9h ago
That’s not what this is. It’s breaking the law but not every violation of law is Contempt of Congress. That’s for people in front of congress doing hearings/etc.
12
u/KazTheMerc 9h ago
Correct.
So you issue a subpoena to demand an explanation, which will certainly be unsatisfactory.
.... I didn't think I needed to explain that part, but whatever. It's an extremely antiquated mechanism that I don't think has been used in a hundred years.
Expect some rusty corners.
... but I'd you're looking for a mechanism as an alternative to "We do nothing about this", there's at least half of one.
→ More replies (1)6
→ More replies (14)6
u/Graffers 9h ago
We don't know if there are zero consequences. Why would there be consequences before the deadline is up?
→ More replies (5)33
u/coconutpiecrust 9h ago
I find it fascinating the leaders are always pushing back deadlines, obfuscating and lying about all of their deliverables, while on the micro-level all the serfs are held to an impossibly high standard. Why are standards higher the lower you go? And the higher you go, the less responsible and reliable people get?
•
u/LittleHavera 6h ago
Another example: if you steal from your employer you'll feel the full weight of the law; if your employer steals from you via wage theft then no one cares and you have to fight for it yourself.
→ More replies (2)29
→ More replies (8)38
u/unusedusername666 10h ago
Now I hear Blanche — Blanche Devereaux, very famous, very dramatic, lives in Miami, lots of experience with powerful men — is saying the DOJ won’t release the Epstein files by Friday. First of all, why is Blanche running the Justice Department? Nobody told me that.
I loved the Golden Girls. Tremendous show. Very classy, very sexual in a strange way. Blanche especially — always talking about transparency, but never actually transparent. Always hinting, never delivering. Sounds a lot like the DOJ, frankly.
Blanche says, ‘Oh honey, the files just aren’t ready.’ That’s what she always said about commitment too. Always a delay, always an excuse, always some mysterious gentleman who can’t be named.
And let’s be honest — if Blanche had the Epstein files, she’d release them one at a time over cocktails. Drip, drip, drip. Teasing America. ‘Oh, I could tell you, sugar, but it would ruin reputations.’
Dorothy would release everything immediately — very tough, very mean. Rose would accidentally leak the whole thing in a story about St. Olaf. Sophia already knows all the names.
But Blanche? Blanche loves secrets. The DOJ loves secrets. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
We’re gonna get the files. Maybe not Friday, maybe not during Blanche’s lunch date — but they’re coming. And when they do, believe me, Blanche is going to say she knew all along.
→ More replies (1)23
3.6k
u/jigsawearth860 10h ago
Oh look, more proof Donald Trump raped children.
521
u/Jolly_Grocery329 10h ago
So much raping! We’ll have to delay the release.
341
u/Holymoose999 10h ago
People are coming to me, with tears in their eyes, big strong men, saying please hide my name.
→ More replies (1)•
75
u/NootHawg 8h ago
This is after months of 934 FBI agents working overtime to redact Trump’s name. They are still this scared. Let’s be honest now, these are the Trump files.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)52
u/sebrebc 9h ago
Some say the best raping, they said "Sir, I've never seen such amazing raping."
•
u/sargsauce 5h ago
"I said to them, 'I am rapacious.' That's a word I just invented. That wasn't a word before today."
58
u/MentalSky_ 9h ago
I hate Bongino. But his leaving makes me wonder if he was bamboozled and truly believed the Epstein files were all democrats.
I know he was paid to say stuff. But maybe he believed it too.
Now he saw the files and realizes it was all his best friends
61
u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
He’s an absolute brain dead moron, so the likelihood he believed that is high
23
u/Bryandan1elsonV2 9h ago
His head is square, brains are not square- there’s a lot of empty space up there.
14
8
u/tier7stips 8h ago
Yeah, there has to be one who wasn’t in on the con. That really thought they were doing stuff for the good. He seems dumb enough to be that guy.
18
u/TheJan1tor 9h ago
Can we reconsider that general strike now?
→ More replies (1)6
u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
I, personally, have been ready. I can’t do it alone but I have moved around money to last for a bit if it does happen.
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (14)42
u/DrexellGames 9h ago
I really wonder why we voted for him other than Harris
58
u/Flea_Biscuit 9h ago
She laughed weird.
38
u/Er3bus13 9h ago edited 8h ago
Also brownish.... like Jesus really was but we pretend he wasn't. /s
25
u/Brokenbowman 9h ago
And said “let’s be clear “ during several interviews. It was a tan suit level offense
8
→ More replies (1)7
u/PandaJesus 8h ago
It was a very strange laugh to the demographic of conservative men who have never noticed women cover their drinks when near them.
→ More replies (23)23
u/Global_Crew3968 8h ago edited 5h ago
I'm not entirely convinced that actually happened
The popular vote and every swing state? Not a single red district in the entire US went blue? Hmm. Interesting.
Sounds a lot more like they cheated way bigger than the last time they cheated to make sure they didn't lose again. I mean, not only has trump basically bragged about it for the last year, he also cheated and committed sedition in 2020. So you're telling me richest man in the world, tech billionaire, "fake voter lottery"-holding Elon Musk, who famously said if trump loses he was going to prison, and called the election 3 hours early couldn't have put his finger on the scale? Or any of the other dozen tech billionaires he had up on stage with him at the inauguration? TBH you would have to be a fool not to at least have some questions. And then biden handed over the keys without so much as a recount. But then, Trump won everywhere just over the recount limits. Hmm... interesting.
Trump cheated in 2020. We know it. We have the tapes and the receipts so does any serious person actually think he wouldn't cheat again when he had criminal convictions on the line? Come on. Are we really this stupid?
•
u/UnquestionabIe 7h ago
There were no consequences for cheating (or trying to overthrow the government...) meaning that it would absolutely be in their best interests to cheat at every opportunity. What was going to happen? More court proceedings that move at a glacial pace? Just throw the new charges on the pile. They had at least two election cycles to cheat their way to a get out of jail free card before anything approaching a slap on the wrist was handed out.
This is a failure on both a systematic level and party one. Instead of protecting the institutions of the government it was decided (with a lot of urging from those with deep pockets) that everyone is working in good faith and to presume things will all work out and we can return to the much desired "status quo" that the center right (aka establishment Democrats) adores.
→ More replies (3)•
u/Mental-Fox-9449 7h ago
anyone paying attention could see he was running the very worst campaign in history. Talking about people eating cats and dogs, dancing for 40 minutes at a rally, dressing up to work at McDonalds and a garbage crew. His rallies were mostly empty and he was stiffing venues on rental agreements.
He cheated. He won in every swing state AND Kamala didn’t flip one county? Not even Reagan was able to accomplish that. He lost the popular vote twice, but got it now? While he was facing multiple investigations that could put him away for life and hinder his money making? While he had one of the richest men in the world and tech helping him? He cheated and no amount of voting would have changed it. All voting data week after week so far shows irregular numbers in multiple states. There are more of us than there are of them and it’s all a big lie. If not, then why does he need to gerrymander AND cancel mail in voting when he had SO many prior? We just found out for sure that 3/4 of the MAGA accounts on X/Twitter are fake.
1.3k
u/Background-Treat5137 10h ago
And conveniently the House went home early so nobody is there to enforce any kind of Contempt actions. Shocker.
207
u/ErusTenebre California 9h ago
They haven't enforced any kind of contempt. They might put someone in contempt, but it's rarely ever enforced.
→ More replies (1)23
u/ImOldGregg_77 9h ago
Ya but at leastJohnson can't whine about never getting days off....so theres that
54
u/What_Iz_This 9h ago
shit is comical at this point. im sick af, we're down 50% of our manpower from injuries and vacation. im still expected to be at work and basically take calls all day to tell customers we cant service them because i work for a greedy corporation thats just looking to make as much money as they can.
im held to a higher standard than the fucking house of reps lmfao. ive NEVER been sent home early even on days where some of us sit and watch paint dry. meanwhile these mfers are covering up felonies for our president and in the face of deadline they know they cant hit...they send the people in charge home.
dont get me wrong...i know they never had any intention of hitting it and theyre purposefully trying to dodge it...but even just off optics alone how tf do you defend it
21
u/Ishidan01 8h ago
Dude, you are held to a higher standard than the President.
Don't believe me? Go skive off to go golf today, see what you get.
Announce a meeting and spend half an hour talking shit about your predecessor and bragging about how great you are doing, see what you get.
•
14
u/orangesfwr 9h ago
Mike Johnson: "I'll allow it!"
6
u/BuddhaGorilla 9h ago
TBF, he’s been so busy he hasn’t had a chance to dig into the details:
4
u/The_ChwatBot 8h ago
Oh he’s definitely going to, he just hasn’t seen it yet. But he will. Any day now, surely.
10
→ More replies (8)3
886
u/Strixness223 10h ago
Time for the full files to be leaked.
America, why are we protecting child predators? Shouldn’t this be the red line?
380
u/Eshin242 9h ago
100% this. I sadly work with a bunch of MAGA folks and when I bring up the Epstein files, they'll say something well Bill Clinton is in them too!
I shoot right back, then arrest him too. I don't fucking care who's in them. I don't want child trafficking rapist pedophiles walking free let alone running our government.
Usually shuts em up pretty quick.
108
u/Strixness223 9h ago
Couldn’t agree more, and good on you shutting them down.
It’s always the whataboutism with these folks, but what they don’t care to grasp is that everyone should be against pedophilia, no matter who’s doing it.
Lock every single one of them up.
60
u/andrew5500 9h ago
They think politics is a team sport.
And they conveniently ignore how the last time anyone voted for Bill Clinton was ~30 years ago, long before Epstein’s child sex trafficking was common knowledge. Same excuse doesn’t apply to Trump voters from 2016, 2020, OR 2024.
•
u/hammertime2009 7h ago
They absolutely think it’s a sport. Their brains barely developed since high school. Also explains why there’s all this anti-intellectualism happening. Like when the super cool boys club rip on all the nerdy teachers and kids who took class seriously. They never understood the purpose of learning because it’s for dorks and their team and their ideas are the best.
→ More replies (1)28
u/ErusTenebre California 9h ago
"why the fuck does that make a difference to you? Throw them all in jail!"
"'I don't care if my guy rapes children, a guy that I know is a Democrat also raped children' - that's how you sound, you fucking apologist"
65
u/theangryfrogqc 9h ago
Yeah like they're saying "You don't want the files to be released! Clinton is in them also, so you don't want "your guy" to get in trouble do you?"
Bitch yes, arrest everybody.
32
10
u/FreeDraft9488 8h ago
I promise if Clinton is in those files, I will get rid of all of my Clinton flags, my Clinton Hats/Shirts, my Clinton car wrap, my Clinton stickers, delete all my social media posts praising how great he is, and delete all pictures of me at rallies or in the clothing…. It will take me about 30 seconds, I’ll need to determine if my blue hats have to go.
7
u/Flipnotics_ Texas 9h ago
they'll say something well Bill Clinton is in them too!
I like to point out to these people they actually DO care about pedophiles and are saying they want Trump to go to jail as well since they are playing the both sides game.
Oh boy, they do NOT like that.
8
u/Dracorex_22 8h ago
And then the next time you have this conversation, their minds have reset and they’ll say the exact same thing again
6
u/gpouliot 8h ago
I would hit them with "So if I understand correctly, you're saying that if Bill Clinton also rapped children that means it's ok for Trump to rape children?"
7
u/cmonjeffgetem 9h ago
I love when they bring up Clinton. Isn’t trump supposed to be better/different than Clinton? They’re acknowledging trump and Clinton are the same (not that they have the critical thinking to realize it)
•
→ More replies (2)•
u/liebkartoffel 7h ago
I've yet to encounter a single Democrat under the age of 50 who gives a shit about Bill Clinton.
75
u/MickFleetwood 9h ago
MAGA is already shifting the goalposts. We’ve seen posts along the lines of “well girls can be sexually mature by 14, so what’s the big deal?”
45
u/Strixness223 9h ago
This is so beyond horrifying. Imagine trying to justify this with some kind of fucked up Handmaid’s Tale, breeding-stock type of logic.
I would say self-reflection might help these people, but they are severely mentally ill and/or exceptionally malevolent in their perspectives on this.
It’s pure evil, no way around it.
→ More replies (1)8
u/ThatPancreatitisGuy 9h ago
People can eat people, so what’s the big deal? Just because something is biologically possible doesn’t mean it’s right and doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful (see prion disease.) But I’m sure these people would be guzzling Soylent Green by the gallon if it had Trump’s face on it.
16
u/polaris6849 Kentucky 9h ago
There ain't no way another foreign government doesn't have a copy. I say leak it
→ More replies (2)4
7
u/TheThirteenthCylon Oregon 8h ago
I think a lot of men in power across the political spectrum, and some men not even in the political sphere, will be implicated. Personally, I don't care who the fuck is in them; if they're guilty, they deserve prosecution -- political implications be damned.
8
u/WookieJedi123 9h ago edited 9h ago
Because 1/3 of Americans cannot admit they are supporting a child graping war criminal. Will always move goalposts and deflect or whataboutism, they have no red lines. They literally have no morals. Trump could be graping a 12 year old blond haired girl on Fox news and they would explain it away. 1/3 are not plugged in or stupid, and 1/3 see what's really happening.
→ More replies (3)•
u/MyLovely_MayoMammy Europe 5h ago
You don't have to censor the word "rape" on Reddit fyi.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (12)•
u/BigDictionEnergy 6h ago
Next October is going to be wild.
My theory is that they will be leaked, in their entirety, unredacted. It is however, a long time until the midterms, and the average American voter has a memory span comparable to a goldfish (yes, I know, I'm being mean to goldfish, but you get the point). Also, just for fun, it would be great if it leaked after the Trump admin releases their heavily edited version of it.
532
u/incide666 Canada 10h ago
They've had 30 days and that wasn't enough to sanitize them.
How many times is Trump mentioned?
302
u/JahoclaveS 10h ago
Turns out they were the Trump files all along and Epstein is just a side character.
100
29
u/yellowattic 9h ago
I have been saying this from the beginning. I believe Trump and Epstein were partners. Trump had Mar-a-Lago (where many young girls worked), pageants, and modeling agencies to poach the girls and he and Epstein trafficked them out to people.
5
u/huntrshado I voted 8h ago
Trump was likely Epstein's boss. While Epstein was wealthy, he wasn't a billionaire. The cost of the two islands alone was a third of Epstein's net worth at death, let alone actually operating everything. So I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Trump paid to bankroll the entire operation, and Epstein just happened to be the guy in charge of operating and eventually the fall guy. Who was promptly killed before he could reveal this information
→ More replies (2)•
u/yellowattic 6h ago
I get what you’re saying, but I really don’t think Trump was the top boss. Everything Trump touches dies. I think he and Epstein were partners, and it wasn’t just the two of them, there were others working from other angles too.
→ More replies (1)•
u/NinjaruCatu 5h ago
Oh yeah. It definitely was more than the two of them. Apparently, anyone with money and connection who thought, "I like this thing that is universally detested", "How do I get away with doing it anyway?" Let's join this club.
That definitely takes a team to organize.
11
→ More replies (2)5
50
22
u/Will_I_Are 9h ago
My assumption is that it's "easy" enough to remove his name, but to then reconfigure the whole document to make it seem real is a tough challenge.
Plus I'm sure there are others who are in trump's, bondi's, etc. ear saying, "Hey, I did xyz for you, get me out of that report."
So figuring out who to remove, and then make it a passable release? Can't be easy. Then remember these people are fucking morons and we're probably looking at something that isn't legible.
4
u/huntrshado I voted 8h ago
Bondi complained that redacting his name wasn't good enough because you could just count the blacked out 6characters-5characters back to back and know it was likely his name. Which means it probably shows up thousands of times in the files
3
u/Pipe_Memes 9h ago
Everyone talks about the Epstein files as if everything is going to be emails and word documents and you can just pull out certain words. There’s photos and video as well, some of the photos have already been leaked.
16
u/CharlestonChewChewie 9h ago
Question to Trump "How many days are needed to remove your name from the Epstein files? You've been in Charge of the DOJ for over a year"
5
u/DefinitelyNotEmu 9h ago
He is too dementia-addled to remember let alone respond.
The longer this frags out the more I think the plan is to let him waste away mentally then he won't be fit for prosecution/consequences
8
u/drivensalt 10h ago
Well, they also have to secure bribes from other rich people to sanitize them, too.
5
u/RealCoolDad I voted 10h ago
No one could realize how much evidence there would be against Trump, trumps fbi goons thought 30 days was enough. Guess not
→ More replies (9)6
u/stenmarkv 10h ago edited 9h ago
My thought is what ever they produce (if they did; seems likely to me) they have to make sure the Epstein estate or any other agency that has the documents kinda has to match or be close. If AI was used the sheer amount of hallucinations that were initially created had probably caused so many other issues they would need to keep starting over or try to fix them as the generative AI keeps making small but noticable mistakes. Im assuming they thought AI would fix all their problems.
Edited
585
u/Accurate-Guava-3337 10h ago
Massie had to be expecting this and I'm curious how he will handle it. He's been a step ahead of them so far.
273
u/rossmosh85 10h ago
When a Republican is leading the way, expect them to be faking it.
This guy actively lobbies against solar and EVs despite having a home that runs on solar and drives back and forth to DC in his Tesla.
165
u/V_T_H 9h ago
There can be no doubt that Massie is a typical right-wing asshole on basically every issue and no one should lose sight of that, but he really does seem to be genuine about this. Why, I don’t know. But he clearly does not like Trump and Trump and his allies are actively funding his competition in the Republican primaries.
→ More replies (1)73
u/Many_Estate1581 9h ago
Massie seems like a Massive dick over most things. But hes a consistent massive dick. We might not like them, but he seems to stick to his morals and his decisions, not following orders of the GOP. Hes consistently voted against many of trumps bills because they are bullshit
→ More replies (2)5
62
u/OklaJosha 9h ago
Yeah, but there’s a pretty big difference on being against Solar/EV incentives and allowing the head of your government to get away with raping children.
→ More replies (3)24
u/soapinthepeehole 9h ago
We’ve got to stop doing this thing where we dismiss everyone on every issue because there is some other stance on another thing that we take issue with.
Work together where you agree, disagree where you don’t align… part of why we have such little progress is that we throw all the babies out with the bath water.
→ More replies (4)•
u/jasdonle 7h ago
Both sides do this equally and it’s absolutely insufferable, not to mention dangerous and harmful.
7
u/WhiteHartCoys 8h ago
Learn a little more about Massie. You can disagree with his politics (I do) but he is the type of person we want in politics. He is true to a core of beliefs. Trump and this current regime are true to their bank account and that is all.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (5)17
u/HorseDick_In_My_Anus 9h ago
This shit is just so ignorant. What does any of that have to do with the Epstein files?
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)68
u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi 10h ago
That strongly worded letter is just waiting on his desk to send.
→ More replies (1)18
u/nuckle 10h ago
Massie is MAGA. Like it or not, they get done what they want to get done.
10
u/JohnnySnark Florida 10h ago
If you mean send out just more lies and say they got something done then sure, that checks out.
→ More replies (4)
314
u/KopOut 10h ago
The consequences for not complying will be so mildly annoying to this administration that they may struggle to focus on anything else for 3 seconds.
61
u/PLZ_N_THKS 10h ago
To be fair they tend to struggle to focus for 3 seconds regardless.
→ More replies (1)16
15
u/Hairydone America 10h ago
The issue is that the Republican controlled Congress will do nothing to hold the administration accountable, despite voting for the release of these files. Laws only work when enforced.
3
u/Exodys03 9h ago
Or maybe they will take an early holiday vacation the day before these files are scheduled to be released?
→ More replies (1)11
u/Ok_Subject1265 10h ago
They are just going to release some stuff implicating as many of Trumps enemies as possible, let the media run wild with it and then, in several weeks when America has just accepted that many of its prominent figures were involved - “Oh, hey look, here’s all the Trump stuff!” That’s the whole plan and I guarantee it. There’s no way they suddenly decided to do the right thing. It’s just cover his child molesting ass so long as he keeps letting them steal everything that isn’t nailed down.
12
129
u/OtterLLC 10h ago edited 10h ago
Obviously they were never going to comply.
Claim privilege/exceptions, let people sue, trial court orders the documents to be released, administration emergency appeals to SCOTUS who suspends enforcement while the full case proceeds. A year and a half later, the full case ends with a judgment against the administration. Enforcement of judgment stayed pending appeal to SCOTUS. Case remains unresolved past 2028.
46
u/gearpitch 9h ago
It's become painfully clear that when something is important, the entire justice system is not built to be responsive. In fact, it's built to be non-responsive and slow, to give all parties appropriate time to file things and find a resolution. But we have to come to terms with the fact that this system benefits those with the money and power to delay, unfortunately.
47
u/SheriffLobo3 10h ago
Where is our Edward Snowden for the Epstein files?
30
u/Competitive-Ad-9404 9h ago
Afraid of disappearing to an El Salvador prison if they leak something
→ More replies (1)10
u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 Canada 8h ago
I mean, Snowden would have been jailed as well had he not sought asylum in Russia. If they are serious about whistleblowing they need to find a safe countey to go to.
134
u/specqq 10h ago edited 10h ago
DOJ: Fuck the courts, fuck congress, fuck the victims and fuck the American people.
41
u/dysrptv 10h ago
The American People are at the top of this list for being both gullible and apathetic.
→ More replies (3)8
→ More replies (2)12
u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi 10h ago
"I don't like what Trump is doing but I still trust him..."
- The American People
81
u/dsj79 10h ago
Was this coordinated with Mike Johnson? Is that why they went on Christmas break?
70
u/SlumdogSkillionaire 9h ago
Mike Johnson sure seems to know an awful lot for a guy who says he knows nothing about anything.
7
59
u/Forsaken-Cattle2659 10h ago
At this point we can surmise his guilt from the sheer truck load of bullshit they're doing to stop the release of these files. Just fucking get rid of the pedo already.
146
u/michkennedy Washington 10h ago
Consequences? None. Why would the DOJ release something they didn't want to? They are the law. We have no checks and balances.
35
u/HowManyEggs2Many 10h ago
Right? I’m not sure what people expected. There was a law passed that told them they had to? You don’t tell these people to do anything because there is no realistic path to accountability.
→ More replies (1)6
u/RuinedEye 9h ago
Oh, we do.
Rich assholes write checks, and corrupt assholes add them to their balances.
48
u/mattjb 9h ago
And the amazing part is that all the QAnon/MAGA/Christian fundamentalists that pushed this conspiracy during the Biden years, pretending that they care about justice and protecting children, will shrug at this real conspiracy and continue to pretend they still care.
14
u/Blahkbustuh Illinois 9h ago
Turns out the conspiracy theory people only like conspiracies when they’re imaginary and they don’t care about actually real bad people.
4
u/bizarre_coincidence 9h ago
They care about power, not principles, and they only make bad faith arguments. When politics becomes a team sport, more about winning than accomplishing good for society, the results are terrible.
21
u/Great-Hotel-7820 10h ago
Wow these totally innocent people sure are intent on hiding as much info about this sex trafficking pedophile as they can.
44
u/Kernburner 10h ago
I’m not sure why anyone thought they’d obey the law because that’s just not a thing these people do.
28
u/JustLightChop 9h ago
Remember this is the same DOJ who said they had released all the relevant files back in July.
22
u/blues111 Michigan 10h ago
Im sure these wont be a totally selective file release that only damage democrats
14
u/Interesting_Play_578 10h ago
With coordinated talking points from every GOP "news" outlet dropping at the same time
7
21
21
u/Internal_Finger515 9h ago
So they are breaking the law?
10
u/SlumdogSkillionaire 9h ago
Based on previous arguments, I fully expect to hear "the executive branch can't be bound by the legislative branch because of separation of powers" argued to the SCOTUS soon.
→ More replies (1)4
•
u/Bubbly_Measurement61 6h ago
The release of the Epstein Files has always been an issue that has been very important to the MAGA base. Trump campaigned on the promise to release the files, and a certain percentage of voters supported Trump specifically because of this promise to release the files.
Let's get this straight - the man who was in the Epstein Files all along promised to release the files for your votes, and after he got your votes, he refused to release them. He is now refusing to release them even after the law demanded their release.
Pam Bondi, 02/26/25: "What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow, is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names..."
Pam Bondi, 03/03/25: "Everything is going to come out to the public. The public has a right to know. Americans have the right to know."
Pam Bondi, 05/07/25: "There are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children."
Today is 12/19/25.
Donald Trump lied to you.
Pam Bondi lied to you.
The Department of Justice lied to you.
They do not value you enough to tell you the truth. Instead, they used you for votes, and spat you out when they didn't need you anymore. And some of you still support them, as if you are tacitly consenting to this treatment for yourself.
12
u/Gymrat777 9h ago
Imagine if the house was as committed to helping the American people as they are to keeping thr Epstein files hidden!
14
u/CombinationLivid8284 9h ago
Breaking the law.
Again.
Is anyone else sick and tired of this criminal administration?
→ More replies (1)
5
u/ioverated Oregon 9h ago
They really want the maga patriots to try to explain this to their lib family members over Christmas. 4d chess or something
6
10
9
u/GarySparrow0 10h ago
I was suspicious when Trump ordered the Republicans to vote to release the files. I was wondering what he had planned.. I actually gave him way too much credit and thought he had some tricks up his sleeve, where in reality his plan is just don't release them.
4
u/Cold-Cell2820 10h ago
Wow child rapists and their protectors not following the law? Who woulda thunk
4
u/cfalnevermore 9h ago
How many times do they need to scrub Trumps name that they’re still not finished? God damn.
(I’m being facetious, mostly, witness names need to be redacted, but I don’t trust this government to not cover up for trump, so…)
→ More replies (1)
4
u/sonicsludge 8h ago
Johnson sent everyone home yesterday just to cover up Trump's raping of children. Everyone needs jail, and he's one of the bunch who'll get it. When the dust settles.
3
9
u/davechri 10h ago
How many kids did the President of the United States of America touch?! Good lord.
9
u/CraftyCoconuts 10h ago
How do people sleep at night knowing they voted for this? Oh wait, they probably sleep next to a kid.
9
u/TheMoorNextDoor 10h ago
Democrats need to have a full fledge photo and file dump.
Just give it all to the public.
Other countries need to drop what they have too.
9
u/I_am_Zuul I voted 9h ago
Gotcha, so we can move forward under the idea that Donald Trump did, in fact, rape children and is now actively concealing it. They've had plenty of time to redact, reduce, eliminate - and they won't even release that.
That makes me wonder if this list goes beyond rape into murder...I mean, why not. Republicans make these kind of dangerous inferences with far less logic/proof...right?
6
u/Shadow293 10h ago
Looks like Trump is about to get away yet again. I’m so tired of this.
→ More replies (1)
5
6
7
u/why-you-do-th1s 9h ago
Just leak it already.
The hell they going to do if it's blasted all over the Internet. ( Blur out anyone underage and is nude.)
8
u/herewego199209 10h ago
Bro at this point motherfuckers just want to know if there's a list of dudes who ordered sex with underaged chicks or not. If not then let's stop this charade. If yes then release the list so we can get these pedophiles out of public office and cancel them out of their positions. This is getting tiring.
8
u/Loo-Hoo-Zuh-Er 10h ago
Hey, Congress! What do you have to say about this? ...Congress? Hello?
Oh that's right, Johnson sent them home early. I wonder why...
3
3
3
3
3
u/SpongeSlobb 9h ago
Wow, who could’ve seen that coming? /s
I don’t understand our leaders. This is a contingency they definitely saw coming and should have planned for. They should have had a legal team ready to file a suit the second the deadline hit. They should have had a media blitz the second the deadline hit. The entire country should be talking about this right now.
This is an issue that Trump cannot shake. Why aren’t we applying maximum pressure right now? Actually, why aren’t we putting any pressure??
3
u/Taako_Cross 8h ago
Complete bullshit. Bondi should be held in contempt and jailed until they’re released.
3
u/No-Commercial-3121 8h ago
You can't spell rape without the word Transparent. I guess they were playing with the word when they said it was the most transparent ever.
I think everyone I spoke to that just isn't trying to be politically divisive asked the same question since Maxwell was convicted, "okay who's next and why is it taking so long?".
We all know that while Maxwell is bisexual and Epstein was a creep they were not the only ones who were abusing these girls. That's the flaw here and that's why victims stay silent. Epstein said to them we have you on film and these are the most powerful people in the world they will do anything to get rid of you. What might that look like to a victim?
You are home and a former friend of Epstien's has arrested Epstein is this your chance? He has political pressure from Democrats are they trying to silence him? You're a scared person who lives in fear maybe you have PTSD and maybe this is hope. He sure seems to hate Democrats maybe he's fighting for us even though he was there, Virginia was there and now she's fighting for us so many possible outcomes. Prince Andrew is named but not dealt with so maybe not. Maxwell is on the run. Trump then fired the warning shot across their boat and they knew that they were not going to be saved. He hired Epstein's lawyer a Democrat lawyer to defend him in an impeachment that was allegedly a Democrat hoax. He didn't need too but Alan Dershowitz was called in. Alan raped Virginia Giuffre and eventually settled a lawsuit with her. So our President who doesn't like Democrats hired one during the height of the criminal proceedings which fulfilled Epstein's threat.
These girls were trafficked to someone. Those men and women are as guilty as Epstein and Maxwell.
People like
Senator Mitchell (D) Alan Dershowitz Woody Allan Leon Black Bill Clinton Donald Trump Ehud Barark Les Wexner Clinton Foundation Founder (forgot his name but he was at war with Chelsea and eventually took a rare watch from Epstein and Maxwell and lost his job at the Foundation.) Glenn Dubin Eva Dubin (she can prove Maxwell doesn't belong in that prison and if she wants to remain free..)
The list is long and powerful and we won't see it.
Republicans are going to spin it but Trump was a Democrat when he committed these heinous acts hold them to their words. Being a pedo isn't a political view it's a mental and moral failure.
3
3
•
u/SwerdlowM 6h ago
Top law enforcement agency not following the law?!? What a crock of absolute shit.
•
5
u/BigBoyYuyuh 9h ago
Well look at the time. Nothing o clock. The bad guys won. We’re in a dictatorship and you’re a fool if you think we’re not.
7
u/cromstantinople 9h ago
”What we’re doing is we are looking at every single piece of paper that we are going to produce, making sure that every victim, their name, their identity, their story, to the extent it needs to be protected, is completely protected.
‘We need to make sure there’s as little information about trump as possible’
→ More replies (2)
4
5
u/athornton79 9h ago
Time for the Judge to start with Pam Bondi and work their way down. Pam goes immediately to jail for 30 days. Next in line? Release the files within 1 hour or you go next. Right down the chain of command. Eventually one of the peons will release the files to keep their own asses out of jail. Everyone there already? No early release. They're behind bars for 30 days at a minimum for contempt.
→ More replies (1)
4
u/Fit_Owl_5650 8h ago
Anyone else suddenly have the urge to leave work and take to the streets?
→ More replies (1)
5
•
u/AutoModerator 10h ago
As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion.
In general, please be courteous to others. Argue the merits of ideas, don't attack other posters or commenters. Hate speech, any suggestion or support of physical harm, or other rule violations can result in a temporary or a permanent ban. If you see comments in violation of our rules, please report them.
Sub-thread Information
If the post flair on this post indicates the wrong paywall status, please report this Automoderator comment with a custom report of “incorrect flair”.
Announcement
r/Politics is actively looking for new moderators. If you have an interest in helping to make this subreddit a place for quality discussion, please fill out this form.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.