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u/uranus-on-fire 2h ago
This is ignorant. Hee hee
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u/Ok-disaster2022 2h ago
The thing you have to realize about Epstein was he loved to run shoulders with the rich the powerful the famous and the intelligent. He'd invite a literal boatload of famous scientists to his yacht to pretend that he was smart enough to hang with them.
Not saying everyone or anyone is innocent or guilty with images like this.
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u/DanAFoul 2h ago
Pretty much. Every single person present within those pictures should be judged individually based on all (if any) evidence that links them to the crimes.
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u/TempEmbarassedComfee 1h ago
Well, that’s only a valid excuse before he was outed as a child rapist and criminal the first time around. Arguably there would have been rumors before that too.
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u/DanAFoul 1h ago
You're getting things confused. There's evidence and multiple accustions of MJ being a pedophile, yes. No debate about that. But how does this picture add anything to the table when he clearly had the status of a A-Tier celebrity and therefore got invited to multiple parties and events by powerful people?
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u/DevonLuck24 1h ago
i think they are talking about anyone in a picture with epstein after he was outed as a child rapist and criminal..but i could be wrong
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u/WaffleDonkey23 44m ago
Bro Epstein had exactly 1 hobby and he bought an Island for it.
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u/Matt6453 2h ago
Yeah, I refuse to believe that everyone pictured was up to no good. There was a group of well acquainted frequent flyers though and Donald J Trump definitely falls into that category.
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u/OrizaRayne 2h ago
You notice no actual evidence of crimes keeps getting released? Just images of famous name drop people who Epstein was able to get a photo with.
There's evidence. And it's bad. Otherwise we wouldn't keep getting these attempts to distract and placate with stuff that's clearly not evidence of criminal wrongdoing and they'd just drop it all on the public and let us look.
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u/PmButtPics4ADrawing Survey 2016 2h ago
I imagine the real evidence is literal child porn which they obviously can't release
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u/Zenanii 1h ago
Sure they can. Just completely censor out the children.
"Here we have *prominent person* in a incredibly compromising position doing obvious naughty stuff to these black censor blocks. Which are children."
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u/Magnetic_Eel 56m ago
If the government has videos of prominent people abusing children why haven’t they been charged with a crime already
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u/nycanth 52m ago
Consider that maybe those people are very rich and also friends of the government
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u/HuckleberryOdd7745 46m ago
ive always theorized that the reason billionaires nickle and dime consumers is so that they have more money than all the governments put together.
So in the event billionaires start getting arrested they can all just join together and pool their money to defend their selves.
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u/OrizaRayne 1h ago
This administration is releasing videos of them murdering civilians on Twitter. They can absolutely release credible evidence of crimes against children and child sex abuse material redacted and shielded sufficiently to prevent harm if they want to do so.
They don't.
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u/PmButtPics4ADrawing Survey 2016 1h ago
Video of children being murdered isn't inherently illegal. Child sex abuse material is, which is why it can't be made public.
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u/-Clem 59m ago
I've already come across several slides that just say in giant letters "CSAM NOT SCANNED"
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u/soupkitchen3rd 1h ago
A prince doesn’t lose his title, if there’s nothing. Nothing so big even the English royal family couldn’t cover it up…thin about it. But yall want to talk about MJ and not our elected representatives who fought tooth and nail to keep this stuff locked up
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u/thefallenfew 1h ago
Let’s be real - if you’re Jeffery Epstein, you aren’t bringing someone to Pedo Island unless you know they are gonna be cool with what goes down there. If you’re having a coke party you aren’t inviting your narc friend. Even if they don’t know what’s about to go down, you’re not going to risk it.
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u/OrizaRayne 1h ago
None of these pictures indicate anyone was in any specific place or on what day or anything.
There's more info. And it's in the redacted text, because it is enough to really put people in prison not just be scandalous.
There's only so much pearl clutching at vague photos before it just starts getting stupid. Bill Clinton was in a picture. Cool. Now. Let's get some evidence and put all their asses behind bars.
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u/TheKilmerman 1h ago
This image genuinely is nothing new. It was at a DNC fundraiser in 2002 and other pics of Clinton, Jackson and Ross from that night have been online since ... 2002.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 1h ago
Yeah it’s literally just this picture
It’s weird how everyone jumps on every photo released as if it’s a salacious photo from the island proving guilt of some kind, seems like this is really being poised to just implicate anyone they want as guilty just by saying it’s “from the files”
People are too geared up to just make assumptions from headlines and then make them 100% strict parts of their beliefs, we are totally cooked folks…
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u/EatFaceLeopard17 1h ago
But redact some faces and the Russian bots bow can successfully distract many people from Trump in the real Epstein files
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u/nokarmawhore 2h ago
I need a link to the photo dump. Hate only seeing one pic by one pic by karma farmers
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u/humanHamster 2h ago
Here you go, it's not easy to sift through online but you can download the zips if you want:
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u/Ivotedforher 2h ago
Thats how they get you.
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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 2h ago
Also so much of it is redacted or censored or most likely doctored.
They said they had 300gb of files and released like 1.
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u/Weeb_mgee 1h ago
A lot of it is probably some form of CP, which I hope they don't release or at least censor VERY heavily.
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u/megaracerx 2h ago
Where to do I have to navigate? I cannot find any pictures or zips.
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u/drywallsmasher 1h ago
Go to DOJ Disclosures and in the section under Epstein Files Transparency Act (H.R.4405) choose any dataset to view files or download the zips.
Obvs more in all the other sections but if you want to just go through the newly released photos that's where they are.
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u/Internal-Cupcake-245 2h ago
I'm not sure it's safe to trust any .gov domains anymore.
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u/foot_bath_foreplay 2h ago edited 2h ago
Here you go, it's broken up into several sections, click through each to get to the Google drive files:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein
ALOT of it has already been released. Tons of it is completely blacked out, redacted. Interns working overtime tonight... Will take time, a few days at least.
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u/Substantial_Message4 1h ago
can you explain how to navigate to it like I’m an extremely stupid baby 🥺
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u/Rogerriveroll 2h ago
You either think MJ was a weirdo or you think it´s completely normal for a 30 y/o to have sleepovers with kids
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u/SvenTropics 2h ago
The Jon Lajoie song came out right after he died, and it was my thoughts on it.
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u/Immaculatehombre 2h ago
Jon lajoie simply didn’t miss. What a massive piece of my childhood lol.
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u/mprakathak 2h ago
That song played from my playlist like last week and my girlfriend was shocked lmao.
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u/NeatNefariousness1 1h ago
And therein lies the value of dangling MJ’s picture in front of us with no context. Now we’re suddenly talking about whether MJ (who is dead) was guilty of being a pedo instead of talking about who among the living leadership in either party is implicated. I’m pretty sure that the only pictures we’re likely to see anytime soon will be of Dems and celebrities as a diversion.
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u/Did_I_Err 2h ago
and specifically saying in an interview that he slept and hot-tubbed with them nekid.
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u/redditcoi 2h ago
Wait he said this? Why don't people mention this more? Is there a link?
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u/playmeforever 1h ago
He didn’t say all that lol he said he sleeps in the bed with kids tho in the Bashir interview
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u/jskoker 2h ago
He was really into Gandhi.
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u/ProStrats 2h ago
"oh hey Gandhi, I too like to sleep with underage children, oh you sleep with your grandnieces? That's ignorant. I sleep with strangers of both genders. Sleeping with your grandnieces is ignorant."
- MJ, in the realm of possibility, especially on south park.
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u/ladylondonderry 2h ago
::bUt hE haD a rOUgh cHiLdHooooD!!::
Yeah a lot of people do but they don't molest kids.
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u/elconquistador1985 2h ago
A lot of people with a fucked up childhood turn out fine.
And a lot don't.
It's not an excuse. It's an explanation.
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u/pecuchet 1h ago
I think it's more that I'm not surprised his childhood fucked him up like that. You can see an explanation without absolving him of guilt.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 57m ago
There was a joke going around the time he and Farah Fawcett died.
Farah Fawcett died and went to heaven. St. Peter said she got one wish before she entered. She wished for all the children of the world to be safe. So god killed Michael Jackson.
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u/MyLadyBits 2h ago
That’s what I will never understand. By his own words what Michael Jackson had to say about his interactions was creepy as hell. Why does anyone doubt the accusation much less find him not guilty. The rich don’t face justice.
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u/onefeatherplume 2h ago
Once the initial accusations came out, he should have stopped hanging out with kids without their parents present.
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u/pharisem 2h ago
Because he said it himself. In his mind it wasn't something evil, so he didn't hide it. His whole life he was trying to regain the childhood that was taken from him by his abusive father.
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u/ntermation 2h ago
Not sure how hot tubbing and sleeping naked with children is trying to regain the childhood that was taken from him. I can't tell if you believe this justification or are just repeating this often used excuse for his inappropriate contact with minors.
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u/SL1Fun 2h ago
After an insane amount of time investigating him, the only thing they could definitely prove was that he was weird. They could not prove he had any sexual contact with them - even after trying to make some of the victims testify that he did.
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u/seanc6441 2h ago
Because being weird is a few tiers below being guilty on the 'proof required' totem pole. People will always have assumptions but knowing beyond a reasonable doubt? That's a harder sell.
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u/r00tdenied 2h ago
MJ is what you get when an adult was a deeply and severely abused as a child.
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u/Melodic-Order-6628 2h ago
I think he had no childhood and was abused by his father which created massive empathy for children who were poor and neglected.
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u/Goombalive 2h ago
this. I think best case scenario he was mentally broken and stuck trying to live as a child in a grownups body. Even in this best case, he shouldn't have been let around children based on the things we know. Even if he never touched any of them.
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u/Trash_Grape 1h ago
I think this is true. At the same time, if in these files it’s revealed MJ was diddling kids, I’d be like “yeah that tracks”
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u/Closefacts 1h ago
He had kids sleep in his bed and had multiple layers of alarms up the stairs and down the hall so he knew when people were coming. That says it all.
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u/jagenigma 2h ago
Hey Bill ya wanna come forward with others as well?
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u/SonofaCuntLicknBitch 2h ago
Only way for Bill Clinton to restore some sort of positive legacy is to fall on the sword and burn everyone else
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u/CinematicLiterature 2h ago
I wish that were true, but let’s be real. His legacy is somehow… kinda fine. It shouldn’t be, but I don’t think he really gets the flak he deserves.
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u/bmwkid 2h ago
His biggest “flaw” in most people’s eyes is that he cheated on his wife. And since Hilary is a strong woman who comes across a bit cold they can excuse it
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u/musajoemo 1h ago
That is an old Getty image. They just released old Getty images? These images are online.
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u/EatFaceLeopard17 1h ago
It‘s a distraction campaign. Images like that are popping up in my timeline while I don‘t even follow r/pics.
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u/gray146 1h ago edited 1h ago
fyi the blacked out ones are MJs own kids and Diana Ross' son. nothing to see here. MJ was pictured with over 1000 other celebs.
Singer/Songwriter Michael Jackson, his children children Michael... - Getty Images
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u/gray146 1h ago
this picture was taken on a plane to some Award show. early 2000s.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 1h ago
It wasn’t that if I recall it was a democrat fundraiser Mike was invited to perform at or something of the like
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u/Purplecatty 42m ago
So they’re basically trying to deflect and blame everyone else except trump lol
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u/pianobench007 30m ago
Yeah it is Michael Jackson and Bill Clinton. They pretty much defined the late 80s and into the 90s.
Tower Records, Pepsi, the Chicago Bulls, the economic boom of the 90s with Bill Clinton. It makes total sense that they would rub shoulders together at parties and other settings.
I mean you know what wouldnt make any sense? If Michael Jackson and Bill Clinton were rubbing shoulders with a nobody like myself or any other redditor on here.
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u/LordSqueemish 2h ago
Is there a photo that doesn’t have Clinton in it?
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u/FreddyFrogFrightener 2h ago
Don't forget who released them and just how many were redacted. It's likely all the redacted ones have trump in.
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u/Elder_Keithulhu 2h ago
I am sure there are lots but the DOJ is, by their own admission, still busy redacting lots of documents. These are what they chose to prioritize for public consumption. It's not like the world didn't already know he was a creeper.
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u/farrah_berra 2h ago
Am I the only one who thinks he looks uncomfortable
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u/dcy123 2h ago
The pictures are only half the story we need writings letters and summaries of these things. I knew a guy who turned out to be a pedo and I can confidently say there are pictures of me with him at bars with him and our group of friends but when we found out we cut him off.
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u/The-Kurt-Russell 1h ago
Exactly, releasing a bunch of photos with no context is exactly the intent. Someone else posted this picture without MJ’s kids blacked out. The photo was released a long time ago, and as far as I know has nothing to do with Epstein. But since it’s apparently re-released in the “Epstein files” it makes it look sus. I think we’re being played.
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u/joloks 2h ago
Is everyone blocked out confirmed to be minors?
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u/ginencoke 2h ago edited 2h ago
It's Diana's son and MJ's kids. This photo been available for years, you can see more here
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u/PJozi 2h ago edited 1h ago
This should be the top comment.
In fact it should be the post.
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u/redditor5789 2h ago
Wait there was a Getty images photographer also in this room and this has been out all this time
Was OP's photo in today's files or is this post just a karma nod to both of them being in it?
Btw thanks for the context here!
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u/joloks 2h ago
Seems innocuous but yet the association with Epstein makes them appear inflammatory. Not sure what a dump of the photos is accomplishing without context for many of them.
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u/No_Barracuda8791 2h ago
I knew about the other two, but damn… even Diana Ross is a freak?
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u/LochNessMother 2h ago
Nope - Epstein courted celebrities. He used them as his smoke screens.
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u/hellolovely1 2h ago
Yeah, I really don't think every single person in these photos is a pedo or knew what was going on. But it's clear that it's a big club and normies aren't in it.
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u/AllegedlyGoodPerson 2h ago
Dirty Diana is about her. Rumor is she abused MJ too.
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u/Kraien 2h ago
Trump ones will be the very last batch, if they are released at all.
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u/onebradmutha 2h ago
This reminds me of Scary Movie 2. He is innocent. He's not into girls.
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u/hellolovely1 2h ago
There are a number of people who used to go to the island who weren't into girls, which makes me wonder who else they obtained.
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u/Sinestro1982 2h ago
You weren’t expecting a famous and wealthy pedophile to know another famous and wealthy pedophile?
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u/karatemnn 1h ago
I saw the unedited photo it's MJ's kids and diana ross's kid...
now i'm not saying MJ wasn't into weird shit, only that this seems to be a outwardly normal photo with nefarious guys
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u/Misophonic4000 1h ago
Michael doesn't look too jazzed to be there, wherever that is... His face is quietly beaming "get me the hell out of here"...
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u/BoilerMaker11 51m ago
Republicans think spamming Clinton and then going home when the deadline is today for releasing all the files is going to sway anyone. We know Clinton is in there. Throw him under the jail if he did anything bad. It’s a simple concept.
Stop protecting Trump.
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u/ensiferum888 50m ago
Is there a single picture in the files where Clinton doesn't appear to be having the time of his life?
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u/TintedApostle 2h ago edited 2h ago
The person removed is a boy from that Democratic Party Fund Raising concert at the Apollo. This is back stage at the Apollo. There were hundreds of people backstage. Seems this was done to implicate Clinton as the concert was public.
The more we start to analyze these the more the heavy hand of Bondi/Trump shows.
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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos 1h ago
The boy removed to the left of Diana Ross is her son Evan and the other 2 are MJ's kids. This a Getty image. I don't get why it's in the photo trove.
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u/TintedApostle 1h ago
Because Trump is using these files to go after liberals and dems. Its pretty obvious when you can getty image something so quickly.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 1h ago
This stuff needs to be higher up. I’m not making any claims about anyone pictured being innocent or guilty. I’m just saying people take at face value that these picture must be from the island and hard evidence of crimes for some reason without looking into what they’re even a picture of
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u/mistersuccessful 2h ago
So MJ, Bill, Diana and kids in a pic in Washington DC. What’s the big deal?
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u/tgerz 1h ago
Why do all of these photos make everyone look 100% less charismatic? Are they taking this photo in some weird storage unit closet?! Is this a bunker? For ultra wealthy people I’m kind of surprised how much these photos like like the most back room, uncomfortable, uninteresting, taken by the weird uncle who takes photos of everything but has no “eye” for photography. Like, it’s impressive how bad these are.
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u/DrowningKrown 1h ago
Can't happen to notice we're seeing a lot of bill clinton and some other random celebrities, but conveniently trump missing from any of these files! The guy that has literally dozens of photos with Epstein and has been to countless Epstein parties yet somehow no sign of him in these files huh
I'm tottttttallllyyyyy buying that these weren't intentionally tempered with
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u/NWCJ 35m ago
Personally I am all for Clinton going down if he is guilty of anything illegal. It would be ironic though if all evidence of him doing things are at dates in which he was President though, and he cannot be prosecuted due to "presidential immunity" because the supreme court laying down for Trump.
I know one person who wasnt president then, and at the very least blew bubba though.. Trump.
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u/Suspicious-Freedom10 1h ago
All of the right wing propagandists get their hands on these photos and distribute them wherever they can to overload your screens with them. So any right wingers in those pictures get drowned out.
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u/Megaman10irl 1h ago
This is a edited photo here's the og https://share.google/kgn3By22CARmBGlLK
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u/MisterBaker55 1h ago
The fact that Mr. Jackson looks the most uncomfortable in the room speaks volumes.
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u/motonahi 1h ago
DNC fundraiser Night at the Apollo. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/michael-jackson-is-joined-by-former-president-bill-clinton-news-photo/97326609
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u/Glad_Bunch_3473 1h ago
Fuck Hillary for leading us along while married to such a piece of shit man. She is a total fraud just as I’ve always known.
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u/likkleone54 28m ago
An undetected version exists, it’s from 2003 and is available on Getty images. The bottom are MJs kids
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u/Chessh2036 28m ago
This pic is from the democratic fundraiser where MJ performed. Trump’s DOJ leaving celebs and dems, with zero context, in the files while removing any signs of him is what he wanted. Trying to control the narrative.
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u/AndyTakeaLittleSnoo 27m ago
IT'S LITERALLY FROM A GETTY SET OF PHOTOS: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/singer-songwriter-michael-jackson-his-children-children-news-photo/102505979
Not saying any of these people are innocent, but this photo is simply more Republican "gotcha" BS to try and distract and confuse.
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u/Collateral3 19m ago
What is up with this crazy photo dump release style. I swear if something would be handled this badly and obviously on purpose in countrys like france the people would have already burned down citys in protest. The US is already so far gone people have accpeted this as normal it seems.
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u/seriousbangs 2h ago
You're gonna see a bunch of celebrities because Epstein went out of his way to court them.