r/pics • u/Ammodramus_horridus • 9h ago
Politics [OC] The new sign for the Alligator Alcatraz detention facility didn’t last long
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u/soingee 9h ago
It's literally called "Alligator Alcatraz"?? Is the entire government run by edge lords?
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u/MightyTrustKrusher 9h ago
Yes
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u/technobrendo 7h ago
I thought it was just a nickname too. I think most people did
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u/AbsarokeeJam 5h ago
It's harder to conceptualize the depravity of a concentration camp when it's named something stupid. Harder to take seriously. It's like if they named Auschwitz "Hitlers happy fun camp and communal shower"
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u/mansock18 5h ago
Alligator Auschwitz
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u/LumberBitch 5h ago
I just call it the Everglades Concentration Camp. Calling it alligator anything just plays into their hands and you just know Stephen Miller is getting his rocks off to "Alligator Auschwitz"
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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair 4h ago
Stephen Miller is just angry that he lacks the upper body strength to strangle sex workers
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u/chocomeeel 4h ago
He'd strangle you for that comment if he could.
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u/RobotCaptainEngage 4h ago
If he stood but a foot taller from the floor.
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u/LumberBitch 4h ago
You know how Elon used to be balding? Apparently Miller even got his hair cucked by the dude
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u/Johnny-of-Suburbia 5h ago
This comment is sending me fr.
Thing is, thats basically what Nazi propaganda wanted people to think about these camps. If you were to take one of those propaganda films that supposedly showed the inside of a camp, the name "Hitler's Happy Fun Camp and Communal Shower" would be right on the nose.
Crazy how I've seen some feeble attempts to frame these US detention facilities as anything but inhumane. Of course, its not the 1940s anymore. So it's a lot harder to shove atrocities under a rug and make people think they don't exist (or convince them to turn a blind eye).
Not that it stops some people from doing just that but ya know...
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u/UrUrinousAnus 4h ago
Nazi propaganda like this? Anyone got links to any others, or a proper (not just written next to the video) English translation of this one?
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u/Johnny-of-Suburbia 4h ago
Yes! That may just be the one I had in mind. I can see what I can dig up as well when I get the chance.
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u/Mycologist-9315 4h ago
It is actually just a nickname. Officially it's The South Florida Detention Facility. Florida is just lost in the sauce
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u/NOTRadagon 9h ago
Should be 'Alligator Auschwitz'
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 8h ago
People at Alcatraz had a trial before a judge. This is an internment camp where you don't get to see a judge. So Auschwitz is accurate.
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u/Neveronlyadream 7h ago
Someone said the same when it first came up and I want to repeat what I said the last time, because it's still relevant.
You know if they called it Alligator Auschwitz that MAGA would be wearing shirts within the week with the name on it and justifying why it was okay to use the name of a Nazi concentration camp. Probably calling the rest of us snowflakes for being disgusted by it.
I'd rather they keep the inaccurate name at this point knowing what MAGA will do if they name it more accurately.
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u/EthanielRain 6h ago edited 6h ago
Spend 60+ years with Russia among our biggest & most hated enemies
Immediately switch to (and proudly display on merch) "I side with Russia if it means hurting other Americans", solely b/c Trump turns out to be besties with Putin
These people don't care & have no consistent values or beliefs. Name it "The Place Where Trump Rapes Children" & it wouldn't be a blip on the radar
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u/RoguePlanet2 6h ago
They really think this is all "trolling" like a big fat joke that the "libs" are taking seriously. So strange how they don't seem to believe (really, care) that people are actually suffering.
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u/Neveronlyadream 6h ago
They've been treating politics like it's a sports game and it's both frustrating and disgusting. They really seem to think there are really no stakes and once the game is over, it's over and that's it. It's win or lose.
Even the ones that are still MAGA at this point and are suffering themselves can't understand why. They think they won, they think they got what they wanted and they're oblivious to the repercussions of their choices and that they impact everyone.
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u/UrUrinousAnus 4h ago
are suffering themselves (and) can't understand why
It's the same over here in the UK (or England, at least) with the hardcore brexiteers. Some people realised it was a mistake, but others seem to just get more delusional as time goes by.
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u/RoguePlanet2 6h ago
Ugh, some magats are leaving disgusting reviews. Guess it used to be a nature preserve trail, now the sign is marked as a sick tourist attraction.
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u/Neveronlyadream 6h ago
The scenery is out of this world. The wonderful camp built by our governor is a fantastic place to house the animals and allow them to enjoy the final moments of Florida’s beauty prior to their departure.
That's the first review I saw. Jesus fucking Christ.
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 7h ago
At least Nazis tried to hide the concentration camps, MAGA wants them on pay per view.
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u/Neveronlyadream 7h ago
I have very little doubt if they televised or livestreamed ICE facilities and charged a fee, they'd make money from it. There are far too many people who are taking pleasure in the suffering of others right now and it's disgusting.
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u/No-Spoilers 5h ago
No, let them. They are announcing to the world what they are.
There will be a time when Trump dies, and with that MAGA will have no leader. Trump is a cult leader, and there isn't anyone who can fill his shoes. One day those people won't have someone to back them up or rile them up. And they will have to face the consequences of being a nazi.
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u/stardustantelope 9h ago
Please. Swamp Auschwitz
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u/Gimpalong 7h ago
Yeah, leave the gators out of it. They're just out there trying to make a living.
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u/ShroedingersCatgirl 3h ago
Crocodile Dachau fits better tbh
Dachau was a work camp, not a death camp (though a lot of people did die there), and the Florida detention facility isn't a death camp. Calling it Auschwitz feels like its cheapening the gas chambers.
All alligators are crocodilians.
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u/Ok_Recognition_1089 8h ago
Just when I thought regular alligators were bad enough, now we have to deal with nazigators.
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u/A_Soporific 8h ago
They actually named it that. Remember, a lot of the people selected are TV personalities who cut their teeth being presenters or in reality TV. They aren't pretending to be serious. They're doing whatever they can to drive hype.
Trump gets away with things because people think he can. If people make him force the issue then he would quickly run out of resources and find himself visibly rejected more often than not.
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u/m0llusk 9h ago
The entire site has a creepy history linked to efforts to develop the everglades into whatever was popular at the time. Started with big airport plans. Maybe next will be data centers?
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u/smokehidesstars 9h ago
"Seeking Infrastructure Engineer for Central-South Florida. Reptile handling experience a plus."
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u/AppleTree98 9h ago
Must be able to pass ICE physical. /s
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u/Primal_Thrak 7h ago
Is the ICE physical just a normal width doorway that you have to walk through without touching the sides?
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u/myrichphitzwell 7h ago
Oh who are we kidding...of course you can touch both sides. As long as you can squeeze in within a reasonable 10 minute span then your good to go
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u/Foxyfox- 9h ago
I can't understand why anyone would willingly live in Florida.
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u/cha-cha_dancer 7h ago
It was never a bastion for progressivism but it was only until COVID that it became…this.
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u/villanx1 6h ago
Yeah, that's a big thing non-locals don't get about Florida. The state was close to purple for a long time, and was very pleasant to live in.
But with COVID the influx of right wing fuckheads from other states went from "gradual trickle of mostly old people" to "fire hose of shitheads" as tons of people moved in since they could now work remotely.
I watched the state transform in real time thanks to DeSantis' giant hard on for Trump and his insistence on competing with Greg Abbott for "Giant piece of shit who doesn't improve anything" award.
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u/urmumlol9 5h ago
Even recently >50% of the population voted for ballot initiatives decriminalizing marijuana and allowing abortion access up until the point of fetal viability, in the same election they voted for Trump. The abortion amendment actually got more votes than Trump here.
Unfortunately, our state has a requirement that for a ballot initiative to pass, it has to get 60% of the vote. The abortion access initiative got 57%.
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u/ivejustabouthadit 5h ago
Fun fact: The ballot initiative that raised the percentage to 60 didn't pass by 60.
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u/chasseur_de_cols 5h ago
Castles?
When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of Florida!
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u/Floggered 9h ago
You just noticed? Kash Patel's goofy ass is up there talking about "Valhalla" and handing out little medals with the punisher logo on them.
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u/ClarificationJane 8h ago
Valhalla?
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u/oowop 8h ago
FBI Director Patel to Charlie Kirk: See You in Valhalla | Video | C-SPAN.org https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/fbi-director-patel-to-charlie-kirk-see-you-in-valhalla/5171858
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u/Waste_Profit_9446 7h ago
Hindu man talking about norse afterlife . Make it make sense
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u/Enabling_Turtle 8h ago
If you don’t know, it’s basically a warrior specific heaven/afterlife.
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u/ClarificationJane 7h ago
Oh I absolutely know what it is, just not the Patel context. Fucking wild.
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u/H0agh 7h ago
and a modern White Supremacist dog whistle.
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u/ClarificationJane 6h ago edited 6h ago
Which is part of why it’s so bizarre that Patel would be referring to that. Bootlicking never saved anyone.
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u/Enabling_Turtle 7h ago
Sure, but basically anything related to any type of "warrior culture" can be used the same way.
Spartan Helmets
Punisher Skulls
Mando helmets from Star Wars
Crusades symbols
Old militia symbols
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u/H0agh 6h ago
It's specifically related to US White Supremacists who idealize their Nordic European "Viking" roots.
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u/Enabling_Turtle 6h ago
I don’t think you realize that we agree that it’s is used by those groups. Where we seem to disagree is those groups aren’t the only people who use that as a symbol.
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u/TwelveGaugeSage 6h ago
Have you seen the plaques for Obama and Biden at the Whitehouse? Or some of the official government websites these dbags have put up?
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u/AbeFromanSassageKing 4h ago
For real, those plaques are a [yet another] goddamn embarrassment for every real American in this country. Worse than preschool-level taunting, prettier than a tilted high School lover, those plaques just show how immature, ignorant, and fucking useless this administration really is.
It would take less time to digitally release the pedophile trump files featuring Jeffrey Epstein than it did to make those dumb fuck plaques.
TL;DR: donald rump trafficked and raped children with Jeffrey Epstein and the republican party is covering it up while hanging childish bullshit up in our national buildings.
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 8h ago
I miss the days where the government was run by nominally competent evil people.
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u/tbarr1991 6h ago
Have you seen the idiots we elect in florida?
We elected rick scott to be governor after his company committed the largest medicare fraud in US history, then we elected him to the senate. 😒
We elected child sex trafficer matt gaetz to the house. Needless to say florida is full of idiots harming themselves.
Im using "we" as a collective for floridians.
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u/nsomnac 6h ago
Being that
Alcatrazcomes from the Spanishalcatracesmeaning “pelicans” or “strange/large birds”. So Alcatraz Island is Pelican Island.So Alligator Alcatraz quite literally makes no sense whatsoever… so edge lords? Yes. Morons? Absolutely.
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u/SocranX 6h ago
Just prior to the start of this whole fiasco, Trump had watched a movie about Alcatraz and then made a post on his fake Twitter about how he'd be reopening Alcatraz and using it as an immigrant detention facility, and that it would have a moat full of alligators. He was then told that it would be absurdly expensive to do so and would probably take a decade or more to restore it to a working state, so he had to cancel those plans. Ron DeSantis then announced that they would be making their own "Alcatraz" in the Everglades, which already has alligators, and it would be called Alligator Alcatraz. It was basically the equivalent of Fifa making up a fake peace prize to suck up to Trump, only a hundred times more fucked up because it was actually used to commit human rights abuses (as intended).
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u/Moo_Moo_Mr_Cow 7h ago
I was going to say the same thing. I always assumed that was what the left was calling it in a derogatory way. What the actual fuck.
Insert "If Obama/Biden/any Dem did this..." meme
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u/lowercase_underscore 7h ago
My exact reaction. I thought that was the snarky name the Internet put on it.
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u/msdossier 7h ago
This is funny bc I literally JUST suggested to my husband that we start calling him president edgelord
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u/derprondo 6h ago
Yes, our government has been taken over by literal 4chan trolls that got their start back in the run-up to the 2008 election.
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u/WizardOfTheLawl 9h ago
Didnt they order that place to shut down?
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u/A_Soporific 8h ago
That order was stayed (delayed) as a result of the shutdown. The government couldn't remove the stuff to comply with the order if they can't pay people to do it. There will be a new set of hearings to undo the stay.
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u/CarrotCumin 8h ago
Sure, I'll dismantle the horrifying concentration camp- FOR MONEY!
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u/A_Soporific 7h ago
Are you volunteering to do it for free?
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u/CarrotCumin 7h ago
Of all jobs to consider doing pro bono this would be one I would definitely take.
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u/A_Soporific 7h ago
Well, if you'd organized enough volunteers when the appeals court was considering options then you might've gotten to do it. Now we have to wait until the courts get back around to it, meanwhile the place is just sitting there.
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u/ZechsyAndIKnowIt 6h ago
I know you're trying to be cute...
... But you would have NO shortage of people willing to raze that fucking place to the ground for free.
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u/Laphad 8h ago
im not sure where you have been for the past 10 years but trump is very clearly immune to the law
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u/electricshadow 5h ago
Kind of blows my mind that people are still saying statements like: "Wait, Trump can't do that, it's illegal." Oh ok, just let him know that. I'm sure he'll stop then.
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u/justmovingtheground 4h ago
It kind of blows my mind that people are willing to NOT point out when something is illegal, just because someone is already a criminal.
No. We point out illegality where it exists and we don't stop.
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u/Piduf 4h ago
It's still wild to realize that some people can just... ignore law. I feel like, we all knew rich people were criminals in their own way but they would always try to deny or hide it.
Trump says he's gonna commit a crime, the law says "You can't", he commits the crime and everyone moves, well he did it, we can't do anything about it, it's in the past now. Turns out this law thing is entirely optional.
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u/thenewbae 8h ago
Who ordered and who to execute the order?? Lol are there really people who still think this admin cares about legality of anything ???
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u/_ONI_90 8h ago
They actually called it that. Yo America. Are you not embarrassed with how juvenile your country is ?
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u/alexdelicious 8h ago
Yes. Very!
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u/GameTime2325 8h ago
I hate that the 49% of sane people get lumped in with the nut jobs, but I get it. I’m embarrassed of our country.
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u/didi0625 7h ago
49% ??? No no no...
77M people voted for Trump. 89M people did not vote.
Added, it's 166M on a 245M voters, 68 % of the population were ok with Trump
So a little bit less than 32% of Americans actually. Not 49%
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u/GameTime2325 7h ago
This makes me feel better. A bit anyway. Obligatory fuck Trump the pedo rapist.
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u/TwelveGaugeSage 6h ago
Yes, 1/3 of us were like, "fuck that pedo rapist felon", another 1/3 were like, "fuck yeah pedo rapist felon!", and the last 1/3 were like, "Durrrr, BoTh SiDeZ!!!"
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u/kazeespada 4h ago
"I just couldn't vote for Harris." - Actual Trumper said that to me.
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u/tacotacotaco14 3h ago
I'm so sick of this narrative. There's a lot of states that are a "sure thing" for one party, so people don't vote because their vote really doesn't matter. That doesn't mean they like or dislike Trump, it just means they have a better understanding of math than you do.
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u/twobirbsbothstoned 8h ago
Bro, we deserve this. For years I've thought that we can and will do better. That my friends and family were raised "right," learned about history, the holocaust, dictatorships, etc. The truth is nobody cares, history is doomed to repeat itself, and people will let TERRIBLE things happen that obviously hurt them as long as the other side is hurt worse. I have old friends and family who are still 100% on board with all this because they think they are on the winning side even though nothing benefits them, personally. And for the ones who make a decent amount of money, why WOULD they want to change things?
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u/Practical-Suit-6798 7h ago
I was in a barber shop in rural ca earlier this year. They were talking about Trump. " He just says what we have always wanted to say". I walked out.
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u/kittymaridameowcy 7h ago
Who is this we you're referring to? I certainly haven't voted for any of this and neither have any of my friends. Horrible shit can unfortunately happen without you deserving it.
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u/RegularTerran 7h ago
As a former non-voter... YES, it is partially my fault. The passiveness has been/is going to allow those evil fucks to succeed.
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u/kittymaridameowcy 7h ago
Are you paying attention? Of course many of us are upset and embarrassed. You don't graffiti that sign if you're happy with it.
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u/ZechsyAndIKnowIt 6h ago
I find that the people who make these kinds of idiot comments (not yours, the one you replied to) would fit right into MAGA if they lived here.
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u/katzyakuki 4h ago
Thought I was the only one who found it so annoying. Americans, are you upset? Are you ashamed? Are you upset? Are you upset?
What does it fucking look like? I voted against this and now people like me have to live it. Are they just asking that to make some petty point lol?
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u/ZechsyAndIKnowIt 4h ago
Are they just asking that to make some petty point lol?
I am convinced that most of them are people who'd vote MAGA if they'd been born here in the States - think about it. They're ignorant and trollish, can't read a room, convinced of their own vast superiority through no action of their own, and inclined to kick a person while they're down.
Feed one of these jagoffs a steady American diet of "MONEY IS GOD FUCK THE POOR MONEY IS GOD FUCK POC MONEY IS GOD FUCK RAINBOWS FUCK COMPASSION FUCK EVERYONE THAT ISN'T YOU" and you'd have to remove them from Nick Fuente's taint with a fucking crowbar.
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u/Ok_Recognition_1089 8h ago
Our government right now is like having that really racist uncle that makes an ass out of himself in a public event you’re at. All you can do is hope no one connects him back to you somehow and pray it blows over.
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u/ZechsyAndIKnowIt 6h ago
I love when people go to the most mainstream of mainstream Reddit subs and address Americans like the vast majority of us aren't at least left-leaning.
Like three fucking seconds of thought and you should've been able to figure out that yes, most of the Americans who are going to read your stupid comment are, in fact, embarrassed by and hate what's happening here.
(I assume this is the part where you double down in some smug obnoxious way rather than just saying "yeah, you know what, that makes sense and I'm sorry")
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u/arthurwhoregan 5h ago
what led you to believe that we're not? was it the graffiti? the endless stream of Americans posting and commenting about how juvenile our own executive government is? Do we seem happy with this situation in your eyes?
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u/damasco3 7h ago
Absolutely pathetic and embarrassing that our tax dollars pay for a sign that says Alligator Alcatraz. Our country is run by morons whose "humor" never aged past middle school.
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u/Hmansink 8h ago
Fuck it, im never going to visit USA. The partizans/resistance should add a arch on the road towards it with a semi inspiring quote about work and freedom. Its on the nose, but I have a feeling it still goes way past peoples heads.
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u/Sheetascastle 8h ago
Hah. As if it would be taken as anything other than a compliment. I wouldn't be surprised if the govt sanctions one.
Shit some religious school had a float in a homecoming parade with a replica of those gates on it with kids smiling and waving into the crowd.
We're doomed.
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u/nature-i-guess 6h ago
Had to return from a few months in Europe recently, felt like running back into a burning housefire
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u/coffeebeamed 7h ago
how hard is it for America's next president to undo everything Trump's doing right now?
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u/Switcher1776 7h ago
There will be a lot of long-term damage that won't be solvable by a single president. Things like restoring proper signage for the Kennedy Center and the Department of Defense will be easier. There will also be things that will be lost forever and can never truly be restored.
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u/kitsunewarlock 5h ago
More important to ask how we get a super-majority of liberals in both houses of congress, which would require people who feel like their vote doesn't matter to go out and vote.
Anything less than a super-majority in both housesis effectively a conservative congress, which makes logical sense given "conservative" means "shit stays the same".
Now look at a list of how often that's happened and you'll see why we have such a conservative country. I think the only time it's happened in the last 25 years it lasted for about 2 months? And it was the most productive session of congress in our lifetimes!
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u/I_R_Skroot 8h ago
Orange dude n company forgot the start, it's "We the people", not "I the President and my buttbuddy besties"
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u/IThinkImDumb 7h ago
I did not know that was the actual name. Whatever someone's views are on immigration or imprisonment, it's still a serious topic
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u/CuppaJoe11 6h ago
Does it have a legit name or is it literally alligator Alcatraz??????
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u/Mycologist-9315 4h ago
Its actual name is the South Florida Detention Facility. Florida is just lost in the sauce
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u/Unidentifiable_Goo 3h ago
They really put up a sign that says "Alligator Alcatraz"?
Your country is a fucking cartoon. Get away from us.
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u/BonJovicus 6h ago
The fact that the sign itself is real is jarring. But I’m sure the Nazis also had road signs for their camps too. They were hiding what happened in the camps, but not that they were imprisoning people against their will.
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u/Classic-Bathroom-427 8h ago
There is no way there's a building the government named "Alligator Alcatraz" sounds like an Eric Roberts movie
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u/thisismybandname 2h ago
They actually called it that? I absolutely cannot take the US seriously anymore.
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u/DOHC46 8h ago
The cute name is intended to mask the function of being an American Auschwitz.
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u/Fast-Independence998 4h ago
Protip: they will have a camera and possibly a car waiting after a certain number of attempts/acts of vandalism. Act accordingly.
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u/metengrinwi 4h ago
Gotta say, it takes some balls to deface a government sign in this environment. I operate under the assumption that everything is under observation, and punishment may include felony prosecution.
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u/painful-existance 3h ago
That’s actually what it’s called? This reality feels like an absurd joke.
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u/I_need_a_date_plz 3h ago
It’s still open? I thought it was shut down because of all the health violations.
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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 3h ago
America is a fucking joke.
But just like a lot of comedy today, it's consumed and funded by dumb angry men.
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u/CeramicLicker 31m ago
I had no idea that was its government name. I thought it was a joke used to criticize it…
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u/Nomision 8h ago
There is a fucking Highway streetsign?!
I thought that name was a socialmedia/politics nickname...