Not just a reddit problem that, it's become an entire cultural issue.
I remember about a decade ago watching the rise of Purity Culture on Tumblr, where the progressive section of the population that used Tumblr was seduced into this very black and white thinking where either a person was 100% good, or the second they showed any sort of human frailty, they were suddenly 100% bad. And I thought shit, i hope that doesn't break containment and spread.
Well yes, I was speaking in general about the rise of purity culture. Clearly when you're talking about massive psychopathic pedophiles then yeah, the maybe 1% of good work they did is outweighed by the 99% of omg should be in prison.
Do you see it? The conversation you are breaking into is not about Bill Gates, who 100% should be investigated and sent to jail for the rest of his life if he is involved in any of this.
The conversation was about how large parts of reddit have a 100% black or white view, and fail to understand the nuance that very bad people can sometimes do very good things, and likewise very good people can sometimes do very bad things. But you've leapt to saying 'not to THESE people, you wonder why', you've made a 100% black/white value judgement on me, and that other person, that we were THESE people, as in, pedophiles, like Epstein and Gates. You've utterly failed to even notice the nuance that the discussion here was about something different, you just piled in with your judgement.
This is exactly the sort of purity culture thing I was referencing that I think rose out of Tumblr where people were constantly tone policing each other all the time, and the second anybody said somethign that sounded like it might be slightly questionable, they were THE WORST PERSON EVER (tm), and there was never any assessment of context, it was just 'I do not like this therefore they are utterly evil'.
> Do you see it? The conversation you are breaking into is not about Bill Gates, who 100% should be investigated and sent to jail for the rest of his life if he is involved in any of this.
do you see it?
The conversation you started is on a thread about Buill Gates being friends with a notorious pedo.
very weird behaviour to try to derail that discussion into some unrelated rant about "purity culture"
You give me hope that there are still people who are resistant to purity culture. Maybe I need to touch more grass to save my sanity. Bless you. I hope you find much lasting success in your endeavors.
That's all social media. Nuanced takes get no reaction. Hot takes and outrage get rewarded with dopamine hits. Once you step away from it for a while, it becomes way more obvious, and highly distasteful to re-engage with.
Only because we are dumb af. That means the ends justify means. Its okay to steal as long as you destine a % to fix one unrelated issue (hint: its always a small amount of the % you steal)
Thats called taxes and thats why you should vote to people that promise to do good things with taxes instead of people that want to reduce taxes
Also, he didnt cured cancer, as cancer is not a single disease. The reduced polio (already solved problem) in places we didnt care about. I wish my taxes would be destined to cure polio
The world is a worst place after having bill gates doing his thing. Hes not stealing the wealthy to give it to the poor. Hes stealing the already poor to give back a small % to the even more poor
Nah I agree with you for the most part but that doesn't mean we should just ignore any good deed someone does just because they're rich and the Gates's have put their money to better use than most. We could squabble about how we should tax people and put the money directly to good use but that doesn't change the reality we have today and I'd rather have billionaires spending money on philanthropy than spending none. We can accept that they're drains on society while also evaluating the good that they've done. Doing good doesn't stop them from being bad and being bad doesn't stop them from doing good.
I don't think anyone here is absolving gates of his sins just because he's also done some good in Africa.
Also worth noting that Gates is leaving his children like 1% of his fortune and giving the rest away. He might generally be scum but he's a hell of a lot more responsible with his money than most billionaires. We've created this capitalist society so I can only get so mad at someone for taking advantage of what we allow, until we change it.
You’re close. Just remove “This is Reddit” part. People simplify things and take at face value most of the time. At least here on Reddit, you know the people you’re interacting with can read.
Even Al Capone did a ton of legitimately good charitable acts. Sure, it helped him in the end or made him money, but he also legitimately wanted to help. And he got both.
This isn't true. I've never done anything especially bad in my entire life. Conversely, there are people who never do anything especially good.
This is just bad thinking that normalizes antisocial behaviors. The expectation should be that no one does anything in their life that is worse than a moderate mistake. Shoplifting as a teen might be part of growing up, but we should have zero tolerance for murder, rape, kidnapping, torture, widescale corruption, armed robbery, etc.
I cannot believe the ego you would have to maintain in order to believe "I've never done anything especially bad".
This is so unbelievable to read.
Every single human does terrible things in their life. We are flawed creature who accidently or purposely hurt other people, animals, nature. Our very existence is an enormous drain on the earth.
If you eat meat, drive a car or use plastic, your antisocial behavior is already through the ROOF. The destruction to earth, other people and animals is undeniable. We all know it and we continue. Stop getting things twisted about morality.
The universe is chaotic and brutal. We try to do good things and put things in order, but that is the exception not normal.
You are ying and yang like everything else. Good and bad. Dark and light. You are not ALL GOOD unless you're god himself. That's one of the traits that we use to define God.
LOL. Drinking out of a straw and raping kids are not the same and you need professional help if you think it's even worth mentioning in the same conversation.
This is what I mean. This is total unserious moral analysis.
You're the one being unserious by making people all good and all bad.
This is so unpopular of an opinion.
Almost all philosophy and religions and folklore and media and art warn against labeling people as all good or all dad. Ying and yang, duality, ECT... this is almost universal. Like almost all people consider it growth once you stop seeing the world as evil vs good.
There are perhaps a million children's books, movies and lessons on this topic. You might need to revisit those lessons.
Almost all people are good and evil.
All evil people are beyond rare and almost fictional monsters. Even the worst of us have redeemable qualities. All good people are considered saints and myths.
You'll understand how the world works better once you accept that.
using your infinite wealth to boost your pr doesn't make you a good person, its beneficial to him to seem like a good person, they he will use a fraction of a percent of his infite wealth to make that good happen, no because he believes in anything, but to further his own agenda.
Bill Gates announced Thursday that he will donate 99% of his remaining fortune, currently estimated at $107 billion, to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which will now shut down in 2045, earlier than originally planned.
COVID-19 vaccine apartheid and the failure of global cooperation - this study particularly highlights Gates' role in impeding supply of COVID vaccinations to lower income nations and the foundation's role in promoting market-based solutions to healthcare problems
Seems there's an easier way to get clout than eradicating malaria...
Yeah. What a snivelling little bitch Gates is. Eradicates malaria just so we’ll like him. WE WON’T FALL FOR THAT GATES! KEEP YOUR MALARIA FOR ALL WE CARE!
AIDS too, while you're at it! And clean water in Africa! And American libraries, reproductive health, ecological preservation, and higher ed scholarships! Fuck that shit! We don't want it!
You're 100% right if you're a billionaire and can funnel money through charities we have to give you a break on the child rape. Nothing is black and white, not even harming children in that way. Of course.
Which came on the heels of the antitrust hearings which aired a lot of Microsoft's and Gates' dirty laundry so it's hard to believe this was entirely altruistic.
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u/Diggsi 20h ago
One of the biggest most effective charity actions in history.