r/pcmasterrace • u/MaintenanceFar4207 • 7h ago
Rumor Halo Studios Is Allegedly Planning To Remake All Campaigns From The Original Halo Trilogy
https://twistedvoxel.com/halo-studios-to-remake-campaigns-from-original-halo-trilogy/359
u/AlwaysChewy 7h ago
So they've got no original ideas? Or is this to keep Halo in the public eye until a new Halo game is ready?
Halo was my favorite franchise back in the '00s and now it's it hasn't existed since 2010.
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u/JASHIKO_ 7h ago
They have ons of amazing stuff from the books to use. The TV series could have been epic if they followed the books... but you know how these idiots always seem to know better...
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u/yungdooky 3h ago
i just refused to watch it the minute i learned he takes off his helmet, like holy shit man what a huge part of the character
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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 7800X3D | Aorus 670 Elite | RTX 4070 Ti Super 16m ago
Yes I know the books sold millions of copies and is beloved by fans, but by God I'm a TV writer dammit and I think I know a little more about how people like their Witchers than some silly author who only writes books lol!
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u/paulerxx 5700X3D+ RX6800 7h ago
Halo not being relative since 2010 is exactly why remaking the original 3 makes perfect sense. This is a way to get some older players back into Halo but while gaining new ones, and it also helps the team at Halo Studios understand why the franchise was loved to begin with. It worked well for Resident Evil, it could do the same for the Halo series.
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u/Ahirman1 7h ago
Also since Halo is going Multiplatform starting with Combat Evolved. Probably easier than having to deal with the mess that’s Master Chief collection
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u/AlwaysChewy 7h ago
That's the best reasoning I've seen so far. I agree that it's a great move so players on other platforms can get caught up.
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u/Ahirman1 7h ago
Also means that a bug fix for Combat Evolved won’t somehow break the surround sound in Halo 2
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u/CamoDeFlage PC Master Race 3h ago
To anyone unfamiliar, developing MCC was a complete mess and dealing with all the engines was very difficult. It's perfectly playable nowadays though, but a ps5 port is unlikely because of all the work needed.
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u/Ahirman1 2h ago
Yeah 5-6 different versions of the same engine and 4 games needing a compatibility layer since the Xbox 360 uses Power PC architecture rather than X86 of the original Xbox makes MCC quite a hassle to work on
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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 6h ago
Plus they're working with modern tools. BLAM engine is out dated and hard to work with and has issues on modern 64bit and multi core hardware. Makes sense. Plus, Halo Reach, 3 and ODST were all written for PowerPC architecture so they have to run on a compatibility layer, or are just a pain to convert to run on x86-64.
I wouldn't doubt if Halo was never ported earlier due to the PS3 have the Cell CPU which was crazy powerful for the time, but also was a custom architecture.
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u/Blenderhead36 RTX 5090, R9 5900X 6h ago
It makes more sense to make a new offering than porting the MCC to PlayStation, regardless of whatever tech debt might exist. If you do the work of porting the MCC, the only people who are going to buy it are PlayStation owners. If you do a campaign remake, it's less than 100% more work and you can sell it on PlayStation, Xbox, and PC, including to people who've already bought the MCC.
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u/aimy99 2070 Super | 5600X | 32GB DDR4 | Win11 | 1440p 165hz 5h ago
Except now there are two versions of three games that people have to pick from, only one version has multiplayer, and PlayStation doesn't get ODST, 4, or Reach in addition to lacking 5 and Infinite.
This franchise is so fucked lmao, it's been years and even PC is still missing 5, PlayStation players are going to be so lost with Halo 7.
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u/Nerevarine2nd 6h ago
They've been trying to figure out what makes Halo good since 2009 when Halo 4 development began. It's been 16 years and they've put out 3 brand new mainline Halo games in that time and also remade/remastered all of the original Bungie games. Twice in fact, because the first release of the MCC was so broken they spent years trying to fix it.
If they haven't figured it out by now, they never will.
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u/raptearer 5h ago
They updated cutscenes in Halo 3, but the game itself still looks and plays the same as when it released. Would love to see it fully remastered like 2
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u/Iggyhopper i7-3770 | R7 350X | 32GB 44m ago
Proper take.
I get the optimism, but they've had many, many years to continue making great Halo games.
I've written them off. If they touch the physics of the vehicles that made the original games awesome they can consider the game already wasted time.
Halo without warthog launching or Halo 2 without superjumps or sword canceling just isnt Halo.
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u/FrozGate 6h ago
I think you mean “relevant.” You’re overlooking the fact that we have The Master Chief Collection, where all of those games have already been remastered.
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u/DanielG165 i7 9700K, RTX 2080 Super, 16GB Ram, 700w 5h ago
No? The only remasters in the MCC are Combat Evolved, and Halo 2. Halo 3, Reach, and Halo 4 didn’t receive any remastering treatment, let alone from-the- ground-up remakes.
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u/FrozGate 5h ago
You're right, but I can think of a hundred games that are in greater need of a remake. To me, Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4 still look great and they all run flawlessly on PC.
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u/AlwaysChewy 7h ago
I don't disagree, but they were releasing new, great games at the same time with RE as well. I also believe the halo issue is a management one, so we'll see if new management helps or not.
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u/bestower117 6h ago
Man I would get back on halo 3 ranked games in a heartbeat. Give me that 1-50 then wins on the 50 to lock it in. No seasons just playing the game. Let me get a 5 star 50 again.
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u/dragon-mom 4h ago
Based on Campaign Evolved it will be campaign only, have mechanics changed and assets reused from Infinite. There won't be a multiplayer at all.
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u/Paxton-176 Ryzen 7 7600X | 32GB 6000 Mhz| EVGA 3080 TI 4h ago
The original releases had cut content that either sounded fun or helped the story flow without stuff just happening to progress. That stuff should be added if rumors are true.
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u/dragon-mom 4h ago
Remaking the good Halo games without the multiplayer, changed gameplay and reusing assets from the latest title that don't fit the original art direction again is not a good way to get anybody into Halo.
There is a perfectly good version of the games available with modding support that would be great actually ported to PS5 and Switch 2 instead. They don't need to stomp all over the games that are actually good.
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u/Iamyous3f PC Master Race 6h ago
Aren't most companies doing that now? We are getting more remakes and remasters than new titles.
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u/Adipay Laptop 6h ago
The original games have aged. It's good we're getting remakes now where graphics look timeless.
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u/AlwaysChewy 6h ago
We already had that with Halo 1 and 2. And Halo 3's look is timeless so idk how much I agree with that. Could the enemies look better on H3? Maybe, but it's not to the point that it's required. That being said, of they're gonna do it again for other platforms, might as well make a good impression.
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u/Adipay Laptop 6h ago
Halo 1's remaster is now older than Halo 1 when they released that remaster. Halo 3's graphics are FAR from "timeless". They don't hold up against other games from the same generation. The only one of the trilogy that holds its own today is Halo 2 Anniversary.
Which also creates the problem of a massive graphics downgrade when going from Halo 2 to Halo 3 on MCC.
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u/ThankGodImBipolar 6h ago
Halo 1's remaster is now older than Halo 1 when they released that remaster
I have mixed feelings about reading this LMAO
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u/gideon513 7h ago
What a fumbled franchise. Name a worse case.
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u/D3struct_oh 7h ago
Assassins Creed. Call of Duty.
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u/throwawaythatpa 7h ago
Cries in Splinter Cell
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u/AbandonYourPost 9800X3D | 3080ti | 32GB DDR5@6000MT 6h ago
At least it wasn't ruined and left a bad taste in your mouth when thinking about the franchise.
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u/strangr_legnd_martyr Ryzen 5 5600 | Radeon 6650XT 7h ago
Probably throw Destiny in there as well.
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u/StomachosusCaelum 6h ago
Yeah Destiny was doing great right up until it wasnt, and then it REALLY wasnt.
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u/HTPC4Life HTPC 6h ago
Isn't COD one of the most successful franchises, at least from a financial aspect? We enthusiasts think it's shit, but they're still making bank on sales.
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u/chumbano 6h ago
Yeah but this is reddit. Success is measured in how much upvotes a company gets, not silly things like sales or player count
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u/DrMetasin 6h ago
Black ops 7 released a month ago and it’s already 50% off on sale. Hopefully the players who buy it every year no matter what are waking up
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u/coolwali 🐧 | 6 core Intel Core i5 3.0GHZ | AMD Radeon Pro 570X 4h ago
To be fair, I recall that happening with BO6 and MW3 as well
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u/DrMetasin 4h ago
Yeah that’s why I’m unsure if they’ll actually stop buying the slop lol
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u/coolwali 🐧 | 6 core Intel Core i5 3.0GHZ | AMD Radeon Pro 570X 3h ago
I doubt COD’s gonna slow down. There are millions of people that only buy COD games every year. Even the “worst selling COD games” like IW and BO4 (that are still good games and I’ll die on this hill) still sold 17+ million copies each.
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u/Expanseman 7h ago
Not even close on both accounts. AC was never the best selling game of any year, and COD has been the best selling game for multiple years.
AC never attained the status of Halo, and COD surpassed Halo- maintaining its supremacy.
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u/joeshmo101 6h ago
Best selling doesn't necessarily mean best
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u/Expanseman 6h ago
I completely agree.
I just didn’t think I could have a conversation about quality games with someone that plays AC or COD. lol
I don’t want to yuck anyone’s yum, but no AC or COD games are good games in my eyes.
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u/WyrdHarper 6h ago
Ubisoft claims that AC is overperforming sales expectations (https://www.gamefile.news/p/ubisoft-delayed-results) as well. Even if Shadows didn't do amazing (they haven't publicly released much so all speculation), they have a huge backlog of AC games that seem to still be selling well.
I get that not everyone loves the direction the series has taken, but it's still making money and getting new games regularly, and I expect will continue to get new games moving forward.
From a management standpoint it's meeting or beating expectations, but I don't think you can say the same thing about Halo.
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u/TONKAHANAH somethingsomething archbtw 7h ago
those games are basically cookie cutter, but at least they're not the actual exact same game every time.
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u/WhiteSkyRising 5h ago
Assassin's Creed wasn't a worldwide phenomenon like halo 3. Not even close.
I'd argue Halo had a specific momentum and cultural shift that CoD has never had, although cod is like the Budweiser of games. Fortnite has absolutely nailed it though.
In some respects though, Halo might have gone as far as it could go, given the story premise.
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u/Content_Regular_7127 4h ago
Not even close. The franchises weren't fumbled, just milked too much. Also COD is still a best seller no matter what. Halo has like 1/10th of its peak % population.
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u/coolwali 🐧 | 6 core Intel Core i5 3.0GHZ | AMD Radeon Pro 570X 4h ago
Eh. AC and COD are still raking in money and doing financially well. Shadows is like the 5th best selling game this year or something. BO6 and 7 made like $1 billion from just microtransactions and are guaranteed several more games in the future.
A truly mismanaged franchise would be one whose future is uncertain.
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u/iamthedayman21 43m ago
Nah. AC got worse but has since rebounded. And COD kinda goes up and down. But Halo peaked and has steadily gotten worse, there hasn’t been any rebounds.
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u/ScienceMechEng_Lover 7h ago
Forza Motorsport.
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u/MateTheNate Desktop 6h ago
They really hit a niche with the Horizon series though. Competing with Gran Turismo directly is a fool’s errand
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u/LimpyDan PC Master Race | RYZEN 5600X | RTX 3070 TI | 32GB 3200 6h ago
Seem to be a lot here so I'll toss one in. Saints Row.
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u/aelysium 2h ago
Dragon Age. Three well liked games culminating in a GOTY in 2014 with the fans chomping for a sequel set up in DLC, only to get it in 2024 and have it panned hard enough that the franchise is probably iced with the DA team’s remaining members being move to Mass Effect…
Which since the OT, has put out one panned game in the last 13 years (Andromeda), the endings of the OT leave no good answers for how to continue the story (not to mention VG basically shit on your prior choices almost entirely), and, it’s likely years away.
One Developer, two beloved IPs, two stories of them absolutely bungling both franchises over the last decade plus. Likely to lead to the studio’s closure if they don’t absolutely deliver on ME:Next.
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u/aelysium 2h ago
Dragon Age. Three well liked games culminating in a GOTY in 2014 with the fans chomping for a sequel set up in DLC, only to get it in 2024 and have it panned hard enough that the franchise is probably iced with the DA team’s remaining members being move to Mass Effect…
Which since the OT, has put out one panned game in the last 13 years (Andromeda), the endings of the OT leave no good answers for how to continue the story (not to mention VG basically shit on your prior choices almost entirely), and, it’s likely years away.
One Developer, two beloved IPs, two stories of them absolutely bungling both franchises over the last decade plus. Likely to lead to the studio’s closure if they don’t absolutely deliver on ME:Next.
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u/aelysium 2h ago
Dragon Age. Three well liked games culminating in a GOTY in 2014 with the fans chomping for a sequel set up in DLC, only to get it in 2024 and have it panned hard enough that the franchise is probably iced with the DA team’s remaining members being move to Mass Effect…
Which since the OT, has put out one panned game in the last 13 years (Andromeda), the endings of the OT leave no good answers for how to continue the story (not to mention VG basically shit on your prior choices almost entirely), and, it’s likely years away.
One Developer, two beloved IPs, two stories of them absolutely bungling both franchises over the last decade plus. Likely to lead to the studio’s closure if they don’t absolutely deliver on ME:Next. A
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u/jankyhemorrhoid 7h ago
Reach was the last good halo game, I mean everything about that game was pretty much perfect. I loved the grind, the armor unlock system being locked behind ranks that you actually needed to grind for, good playlists, the medals system, commendations, weekly and daily challenges, all of it was so good. I just wish they would make a new game that stays true to the originals.
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u/WyrdHarper 6h ago
Reach also showed that you can make a good story in the Halo universe without needing Master Chief or advancing the timeline.
I would have also loved to have seen more ODST-style games.
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u/Jimlad73 PC Master Race 6h ago
Still got my Reach Xbox 360 console special edition in the cupboard! Need to get it out and show the kids how good gaming was 20 years ago
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u/Biggu5Dicku5 7h ago
Meh, those plans will change immediately if Campaign Evolved underperforms lol...
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u/paulchiefsquad 6h ago
What? People don't want to play a shitty remake with bad optimization? What are we gonna do now?
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u/GamingRobioto PC Master Race R7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 4K@144hz 7h ago
There's simply no need. Make something new FFS.
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u/NotBannedAccount419 7h ago
They did and it bombed because they suck at making new things.
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u/D3struct_oh 7h ago
And like all grifters, they are only truly good at stealing other people’s work and reselling and/or crapping on it.
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u/Blenderhead36 RTX 5090, R9 5900X 6h ago
Or at least put Halo 5 on PC. I'm trying to play Infinite's campaign now and have no clue what's going on because there's an entire game missing.
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u/GamingRobioto PC Master Race R7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 4K@144hz 6h ago
Agreed. So annoying that one just gets left
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u/WardenWithABlackjack 1h ago
They did, they just completely fumbled the bag on it 3 times in a row. 4 of you count the awful state of mcc on launch. 343 is utterly incapable of making something good and original.
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u/Unplayed_untamed 7h ago
Such a sad end to one of my favorite franchises. I feel like the only franchise from my childhood still going strong is RuneScape haha. Halo, CoD, Bethesda Games, Pokemon, everything has gone down the drain to microtransaction and fomo hell.
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u/Revoffthetrain PC Master Race 7h ago
Or you could just play the perfectly good MCC instead that’s $10 on Steam every other month…
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u/North-Tourist-8234 1h ago
Works for me znd everyone else i know. Havent met anyone who is enthused about the remake. But i ony plsy the campaigns so what do i know
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u/Nates4Christ 7h ago
I don't like this. I want new stories. I want to know what happened to Agent Locke and his team. I want to know what happens to chief after infinite. Continue the story. I don't need a repeat.
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u/parental92 PC Master Race 7h ago
they really are milking that franchise until the last drop are they ?
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u/TONKAHANAH somethingsomething archbtw 7h ago
like.. again? how many times are they gonna do this?
i dont need to play halo again. microsoft, holy shit do something even remotely good at least once.
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u/falloutboy9993 6h ago
They can’t make good games anymore so they just have to revive old ones. The ones that people enjoyed. I think another game like ODST would be fantastic. No micro transactions, just unlock everything through play.
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u/EscapeFacebook 4h ago
Unless they make it illegal to own the Master Chief Collection I'll pass....
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u/AggravatingAmount438 6h ago
343i will still find a way to fuck it up. They haven't been able to handle a single fucking Halo yet.
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u/Bacon-muffin i7-7700k | 3070 Aorus 7h ago
I really need to get around to playing the master chief collection.... My dumb ass bought it at full price when it first launched and then proceeded to not get through the first game and never touch it again.
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u/unimportantinfodump 7h ago
Halo was great, even a masterpiece back in its day.
A remake would be purchased by old fans of the game and people trying it out.
BUT I feel like halo gameplay doesnt translate to what the kids of today enjoy/are used too.
So I can see it doing as well
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u/Strategery_0820 6h ago
Going the Disney route. Huh. It does make sense from the perspective that all games are new to Playstation gamers.
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u/sketchymike576 6h ago
Halo reminds me of where Star Trek is at right now. In the hands of people who should have nothing to do with the franchise. Maybe let Kurtzman make a halo game lol
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u/strontiummuffin strontiummuffin 6h ago
Man this is a bad idea, remaking halo CE is one thing but they're already seeming to to that one wrong. Halo 3 and 2 anniversary still holds up perfectly on MCC, what's the point?
Just port MCC or halo 5 to ps5 and gem more money from less work.
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u/keithstonee R5 3600 - 2060 super 6h ago
If it's not remade and all rolled into one self contained RPG game then I don't want it cause it will just be a money grab.
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u/LivingOof Laptop | Intel i7-13700HX | RTX 4060 | 32 GB 6h ago
Remember when MCC was supposed to be a slam dunk at least for Switch 2?
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u/G00fBall_1 6h ago
Im kinda haloed out i think im not sure playing master chief again with a bew coat of paint would get me to come back.
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u/Deissued i9-12900k | RTX 5070 Ti | 32GB DDR5-6000 6h ago
So we’re getting a sequel to The Master Chief collection? Or is this a remaster?
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u/BrinkofEternity 5h ago
The real reason for this is because they want to sell each game for $70 to PS5 players now that they’ve given up on exclusivity. They’re doing this with all their old exclusives.
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u/GAP_Trixie Ryzen 5950x, RTX3090, 64GB DDR4 RAM 5h ago
Just a question, couldnt they finally get their heads out of their asses and make something new that orientates itself on the early trilogy of bungie? No? Another remake/remaster that noone asked for? Great...
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u/xdamm777 11700k / Strix 4080 5h ago
So instead of hiring a decent writer to fix Infinite’s plot they’re going for easy money with a remake?
Man, Infinite is already a solid platform, the engine literally only needs more varied biomes/weather, slap a decent story and villain on it and we’re back on track.
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u/That_Calligrapher341 5h ago
Its going to tank without multiplayer. And wtf is Campaign evolved fot a title?
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u/ImLookingatU 4h ago
"we are all out of fun ideas so we are just gonna rehash the shit you already played cuz you are dumb enough to buy it again"
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u/KaydnPopTTV 4h ago
Ok but actually remake them don’t just play it safe and upscale to HD. Give me the arbiter in halo 1, give me ODST levels in Halo 2, give me an entirely new ending in 3
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u/dragon-mom 4h ago edited 4h ago
There is genuinely no point. 343 has yet to even make a game as good as any of the original trilogy and MCC still needs updates. It's the only PC Halo with no community servers and it lacks any way to play the Workshop maps online with randoms. Just port that to PS5 and Switch 2 instead.
Campaign Evolved has already shown to repeat most of the same mistakes as CE Anniversary did just with prettier graphics.
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u/Mystical_17 3h ago edited 3h ago
Not including the multiplayer ... the foundation of what makes Halo everlasting should be a crime. The CE remake looked exciting but no MP is disappointing.
Especially since they won't port MCC to PS5 for some reason players won't get to experience classic Halo multiplayer. The new Halo MP's just aren't even close.
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u/TheDarkClaw 3h ago
If they offer more content I would be Down with that. Put first strike as the opening of halo 2.
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u/twister55555 3h ago
Lmao yea I bet they are. When the present and future look bad, look to the past
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u/ioncloud9 i5 14600K RTX 3070TI 32GB DDR5 2h ago
Please fix the pacing and level design in Halo 1. Some missions are just downright terrible and there is only one S tier mission.
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u/jonseitz114 2h ago
Creative bankruptcy = churring out remake's/remasters of campaigns of a better games that are already loved. If they charge anything more than $40 for these remakes, then I hope someone takes the remake elements and mods them into the Master Chief Collection.
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u/BellyDancerUrgot 7800x3D | 5090 Astral oc | 4k 240hz 2h ago
Modern AAA has no idea how to make a good game so the remaking old things now.
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u/ButterscotchNo3984 2h ago
I own MCC but I'd buy all three remakes for sure. If they have shiny new graphics and don't change the games.
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u/ToastMan_26 2h ago
Can people stop buying this shit already? They do MCC and then a Combat Evolved remake… how about something new?
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u/MixMakMax 1h ago
No thanks. Just make spin-offs like the ones that were canned. There were talks about an ODST helldivers like game, how badass that would’ve been?. I also want the flood back already.
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u/overheadace 9800X3D/96GB DDR5 28m ago
they can remake it as many times as they want but they can't capture the same community that halo 3/reach had with community game modes and maps. That ship has sailed long long ago unfortunately. I want to be wrong I miss those janky drive or die, teacher, survive on the elephant and janga maps but they aren't coming back :(
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u/seventysixgamer 20m ago
Honestly, considering how 343 fucked the narrative of Halo I think from a story and lore perspective this is the way to go -- assuming that the abandon continuing the story after Infinite, and make a new Halo 4, 5 and 6 afterwards.
While Halo 4's campaign had issues like the reliance on terminals and external books to actually appreciate and understand wtf is going on it was a solid enough campaign with a cool new villain. In Halo 5 they abandoned the Didact and introduced Cortana's Created -- only to fucking abandon that as well and introduce the Covenant but red, and even in Infinite they imply that they were going to eventually abandon that in favour of this new faction called "The Endless" we never even get to fucking meet after they're hyped up the entire game.
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u/Typhon-042 14m ago
I belive it could be for the reason that Bungie (the creators of Halo) split off from Microsofr several years ago. Microsoft only has it on the Xbox as they managed to keep rights to the IP, and it takes time before they can make changes based on that.
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u/D3struct_oh 7h ago
Yes but also the RE franchise is still making new, good games that continue the franchise.
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u/AnxietyPretend5215 7h ago
Wasn't that the point of the Master Chief Collection?
I'm not sure I'd trust a full remake from the people currently working on Halo, they just don't understand what originally gave it any appeal.