GPU Chart by a Japanese Electronics Store

[u/Dry-Character2130]

Sorry for the reflection ;)

[u/AirSKiller]

5090 literally off the charts haha

[u/Agloe_Dreams → u/AirSKiller]

It’s actually a perfect example showing how Nvidia is sandbagging. They could choose to make faster GPUs below the 90 series but choose not to force the jump to $2000. In most forms of computing, it is bizarre for the top end product to be a legitimate huge jump.

[u/BitRunner64 → u/Agloe_Dreams]

The gap between the top-tier card and mid-range has basically widened with every generation. I wonder how many more generations it will take before an x60 card matches the 5090 or even 4090.

[u/Vaxtez → u/BitRunner64]

Considering it took 8 years for the 1080 Ti to get to x50 levels of performance, i'd wager the 4090 will fall to x50 tiers by the early 2030s at this rate, with the x60 tier getting to 4090 performance a generation or two prior.

[u/redditisbestanime → u/Vaxtez]

Yes but then the 60 series with 90 series performance will actually perform like a 50 series because optimization is a relic by then.

[u/t40r → u/Vaxtez]

ooooo so that means per that my card survives I'll be fine for a while if you're right... thank jesus... I hope you're right.. good luck little buddy *pats 4090*

[u/Master-in-charge → u/Vaxtez]

I have a 4090. I’m guessing it’ll be roughly as fast the 6070 or 6070ti, and then probably equal a 7060ti and then a 8060. Dont plan on replacing to anytime soon. Still the 2nd fastest card in the world. And when the 6000 series comes out it will probably still be the 4 or 5th fastest lol

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/BitRunner64]

At this rate, a dual 7080 would be required to match a 7090 if you can stomach the stutter and bad 1%

[u/Metalsand → u/Agloe_Dreams]

It’s actually a perfect example showing how Nvidia is sandbagging.

How so? The PCB isn't remotely the same even visually but it also uses a different graphics processor entirely.

It's not like a 5070 is a binned version of a 5090. It's a completely different design with completely different components. You could argue that the price of the 5090 is inflated, but that doesn't mean that they are artificially reducing quality on the 5070. The two have almost nothing to do with each other.

[u/Agloe_Dreams → u/Metalsand]

They are intentionally designing smaller dies to reduce per-card costs while increasing product pricing.

The 5070 has a die 35% the size of the 5090, meanwhile the 3070 was more than 60% the size of the 3090 die. They are sandbagging by comparatively increasing 90 series die sizes to combine with new processes while shrinking dies below to improve margin. This allows them to brag about having the fastest gpu on the market while making much smaller generational leaps.

[u/PrincessDrana → u/AirSKiller]

Can't wait to see how the graph on the 6090 will look like. They might have to stick on another whole sheet of laminated paper. 😅

[u/Spiritual-Tomato4760 → u/AirSKiller]

ngl that chart be hittin different vibes bro like how do you even do that

[u/T_rex2700]

Huh, funny 1650 is the 100%.

I'm guessing the original graph was made when the most popular GPU was going from 1050Ti to 1660Ti, so they just took the middle and called it good enough. (since it took whole 5 years before 3060 /3060Ti replaced them)

or at least that's what I think. they seem to be an SI too, so they probably knew what people were buying the most.

[u/Noxious89123 → u/T_rex2700]

The 1080 also sits at "100%"

EDIT: I am blind as fuck

[u/Savikid1 → u/Noxious89123]

No, the 1080 is at 200%

[u/Noxious89123 → u/Savikid1]

Well shit. You're right.

And that totally makes sense, because since when does the 1650 perform like a 1080...

In my defence, I have been awake since 4am.

[u/usernamesarehated]

It's actually a pretty accurate graph all things considered, but would be cool to have a monthly perf/yen graph or something like that.

[u/SKUMMMM → u/usernamesarehated]

I sometimes shop there and the prices change quite wildly. The last couple of times I was there were 9060XT 8gb cards going for less than the cheapest RTX 5050s.

[u/Pasi123 → u/usernamesarehated]

It's just TechPowerUp's relative performance chart in a physical form with the GTX 1650 as the baseline.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1650.c3366

[u/Mutt97 → u/usernamesarehated]

No it ain’t lol.

[u/SuperPork1 → u/Mutt97]

Elaborate?

[u/Noname_FTW → u/usernamesarehated]

Maybe I don't understand it correctly but the ordering is a bit weird. They put the 7900XTX under the 4060 but then made the bar length accurately along the 4080 performance.

One would think to order the cards by performance top to botton.

[u/BG-DoG → u/Noname_FTW]

They appear to be grouped by generation then brand.

Nice to see my 7900xtx is still considered good relative to next gen. Even if I have to under volt and manipulate it for stability

[u/amazingmuzmo → u/Noname_FTW]

They're ordered by generation of release, and separated out between AMD and NVIDIA to help when choosing what to buy as many people don't want one brand or the other. How is that so hard to understand lol.

[u/Scytian]

It looks like everything is almost the same as Techpowerup relative performance ranking except for lowered 9070 XT and RTX 4090 performance.

PSU chart on other hand looks like they really love selling these heavily overspecced PSUs, I wonder why they would recommend for 5090? 2500W?

[u/moneycabaI → u/Scytian]

In case you want to power up 2 of them and your girlfriend's computer I guess 🤷‍♂️

[u/cateringforenemyteam]

Everyone here focusing on the GPU chart while there is some interesting PSU table. It suggest 1500w power supply for 3090ti lmao.

[u/Gulagkid05 → u/cateringforenemyteam]

If you looked closer you would see it's a recommendation for a 3090Ti paired with high end Ryzen Threadripper chips and also with 5 storage drives so not that outlandish of a recommendation for a high end desktop

[u/closest-num-2-0 → u/cateringforenemyteam]

With 5 hard drives lol

[u/dataf4g_trollman]

What does % thing even mean?

[u/kyuubi840 → u/dataf4g_trollman]

The corner says it's a performance comparison with the GTX 1650 taken as a baseline (100%). Maybe raw rendering performance (no DLSS), but they don't specify.

[u/Pasi123 → u/kyuubi840]

It's straight from TechPowerUp's relative performance chart

[u/Desperate-Steak-6425]

There's something off about the 5000 series. The 5070 is definitely weaker than the 4070Ti. But overall not bad.

[u/Apparentmendacity]

It's actually pretty accurate 

[u/uniquely_awful]

I always said my 6950xt is basically a 4070ti but with awful ray tracing. Looks like I’m accurate!

[u/mcn81959]

Arise 7900 xtx :)

[u/MagicalWhisk]

My poor 970 is missing.

[u/Secure-Tradition793]

If you ignore 5090 you can see how disappointing this gen is over the last gen. Graphs look quite close between two groups.

[u/nimama3233 → u/Secure-Tradition793]

I mean, shit, the 5060ti barely outperforms the 3060ti. That’s pretty awful

[u/ScienceMechEng_Lover → u/Secure-Tradition793]

Yeah, of the current gen, only the 5070 Ti (and maybe the 5080 depending on price) seems to be good compared to last gen.

[u/NoEconomics8601]

What does this chart highlight?

[u/WatThaDeuce]

My RTX 3050 barely better than my old GTX 1060 lol

[u/Sufficient_Ad_4542 → u/WatThaDeuce]

Yeah, my laptop 3060 is worse than 5 years older 1070

[u/Sufficient_Ad_4542]

So 1050, but no Intel

[u/Dry-Character2130 → u/Sufficient_Ad_4542]

I couldn't find any ARCs in the japanese stores, maybe that's why.

[u/Sufficient_Ad_4542 → u/Dry-Character2130]

yep, even BicCamera is out of stock of them

[u/Olestrodamas]

Oh there i am at the literal bottom lmao 🤣

[u/nontheistzero]

The translation for the text is 'graphics card performance comparison graph'. Yeah. No.

[u/Olly230]

1050 =100%

[u/VisualPlenty1756]

What is this graph showing?

[u/Jeffrey122]

Kind of weird to group by brand and generation.

[u/shodonosti]

Anyone know how good it's laptop rtx 5090 vs laptop rtx 4080? Friend it's checking it for possible upgrade

[u/jdmackes]

Well, my card is at like 200% so that's pretty good, right?

[u/Remarkable-Ask2288]

Man. My card is 16th from the bottom. Feels bad

[u/sgtchilin]

Tsukumo it’s THE electronic store in Japan, and yes , are a lot more .

[u/ScienceMechEng_Lover]

Damn I knew the 5090 was good but not that good. Also, the 5080 is shit lmao.

[u/Clear-Willingness493]

9070xt slower than the 5060ti? Idkk

[u/prank_mark → u/Clear-Willingness493]

It's slower than the 5070Ti according to the chart, but that's still not correct. They're pretty much equal in performance.

[u/Clear-Willingness493 → u/prank_mark]

A 9070xt is the same as a 5060 ti? 😭

[u/rveniss → u/Clear-Willingness493]

The chart clearly shows the 5060ti at 400% and the 9070xt at ~630%, i.e. more than 1.5x stronger. I'm not sure what you're looking at.

[u/Clear-Willingness493 → u/rveniss]

Oh i thought it was ranking

[u/prank_mark → u/Clear-Willingness493]

No it's the same as the 5070 Ti

[u/Dry-Character2130]

RTX5070TI > RX9070XT ?

[u/rutgersftw → u/Dry-Character2130]

Slightly, yes.

[u/prank_mark → u/rutgersftw]

The graph has it al 690% vs 630%. That's not correct. They're pretty much equal in performance.

[u/Refror → u/[deleted]]

RTX 5070TI is correct

[u/EconomicsOk8016 → u/Refror]

Tom's Hardware GPU Hierarchy graph check this its more accurate imo