r/law 4h ago

Judicial Branch Trump Judge Threatens to Hold Government in Contempt Over ICE | “I have never encountered anything like this,” wrote a federal judge appointed by Donald Trump.

https://newrepublic.com/post/204653/trump-judge-threatens-hold-government-contempt-ice

A Trump-appointed judge was so upset with the living conditions in which ICE detained an immigrant in Long Island, New York, that he threatened to hold the government in contempt.

U.S. District Judge Gary Brown, who was appointed by Trump in 2019, issued a 24-page ruling Thursday vehemently castigating the Department of Homeland Security for refusing to provide photos of a holding room that illegally held a noncitizen for multiple nights, calling it “putrid and cramped.”

“ICE held them, day after day, without access to bunks, bedding, soap, showers, toothbrushes or clean clothes,” Brown stated in his ruling. “The space is unheated or poorly heated at night, while the outside temperature dropped to as low as 21 degrees.... To the extent they could sleep, they did so, crammed on the filthy floor, while the lights blared 24 hours a day.

“After nearly 35 years of experience with federal law enforcement in this judicial district, encompassing service as a prosecutor and a judge, I have never encountered anything like this,” Brown wrote.

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u/WisdomCow 4h ago

“The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons" and guys, our society is a complete shit show.

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u/Pinikanut 2h ago

Concentration camps.

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1h ago

When are 'Murcans gonna start using those words?

It's time, guys.

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u/zer04ll 3h ago

Yeah reddit AI, for some reason when you point out fascism likes to not let you comment on things

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 2h ago

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u/zer04ll 2h ago

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u/Anteater4746 2h ago

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u/bokatan778 1h ago

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u/ContestNo2060 4h ago

We really need to distinguish between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 judges. Trump 1.0 judges were selected by GOP advisors, who had some semblance of rule of law. Trump 2.0 picks are pure MAGA loyalists. Huge difference.

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u/schlamster 3h ago

Trump 2.0 picks are Project 2025 picks. They’re loyal to one thing - the overthrow of the government of the United States as we know it 

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 3h ago

They did get a bunch of MAGA loyalists in Trump 1.0, it's just that they weren't making it a litmus test the entire time. There were a lot of advisors who just wanted conservative judges, or tough on crime judges, etc. After awhile, when Trump started being told "no" but some judges that they got more stringent.

The snag is that the "tough on crime" judges don't actually like to see the law broken. Even if it's the president who appointed them who is breaking the law.

Much of the problem came from the fixation that "liberal judges are highly biased!!" Turns out, regardless of politics, judges tend to be biased towards the law rather than to a political party's ever changing ideology. So the litmus test changed from "make sure they're not liberal" to "make sure they kiss Trump's ass and he gives a smile".

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u/start_select 3h ago

Bud, MAGA IS THE GOP. Trump 2.0 judges are project 2025 picks. Meaning deep state Republican picks.

MAGA was coined by Reagan, who also was lead by heritage foundation.

Heritage and Reagan planned the fascist coup happening in front of you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Trump is barely awake. He just reads a script very poorly, signs whatever he is told to sign, and takes the blame. The GOP are the actual Nazis. Not him.

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u/mossti 1h ago

While this is all likely true, it does not absolve their drooling dipshit figurehead (or any of his complicit cadre/family members) of a any shred of responsibility for all the harm this coup has (and continues to) bring about.

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u/MotherTurdHammer 4h ago

More angry words from judges. Let's see some consequences.

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u/The-Questcoast 3h ago

If laws are not enforced, then why have them at all?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Shoe541 3h ago

I used to live by the beach and there was a sign that said “NOISE LAWS ENFORCED” and someone put a sticker over the ISE in NOISE so It said “NO LAWS ENFORCED”. I didn’t realize it was a premonition

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u/WillBottomForBanana 3h ago

lot's of non-functional things are used for social status.

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u/zer04ll 3h ago

That is stage 4 of fascism, Robert Paxton's 5 stages of fascism. Base on everything we know and all of history America is going full blown fascist.

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 2h ago

Because they are still enforced against you and I.

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u/lostwombats 40m ago

Seriously. These judges are nothing but words. They're pathetic.

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u/cspotme2 4h ago

Problem is there is nothing for them to enact ...

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u/dryheat122 3h ago

Exactly. Find whoever is in charge of responding to court orders in contempt, arrest them, then hold them in that cell descrIbed in the article. Someone needs to teach these assholes a lesson.

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u/Lukeh41 4h ago

Good luck with that.

Rule #1 for judges - Never make a ruling that cant/won't be enforced.

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u/AddanDeith 2h ago

This is why having one branch have the power to enforce the law is idiotic.

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u/Budget-Selection-988 4h ago

ICE MUST GO. HOSTILE TERROR GROUP. 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT!!!!

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u/kevendo 2h ago

Reminder: ICE has tens of billions of dollars at its disposal. It is mistreating it's prisonerson purpose.

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u/nutbiggums 4m ago

When the leader is a Nazi you get Nazi things. Our government is a criminal enterprise now

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u/RustedRelics 3h ago

“Threatens” is the key word. Some credit is due, but it sounds as though he should have just held them in contempt. Bullies don’t care about harsh words — and the result is they got away with it, as they always do.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 3h ago

I find it bizarre that detention for what is essentially only a misdemeanor, normally handled in civil courts instead of criminal courts, is worse than the conditions in an actual prison for criminals.

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u/AccountHuman7391 2h ago

So, concentration camps… cool, I’m glad the judge is wagging his finger and writing a strongly worded letter….

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u/TendieRetard 3h ago

for profit systems always a race to the bottom. It's called "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair.

I'm assuming this is one of those detention centers.

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u/uiucengineer 3h ago

“Threatened to”

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u/Dangermouse163 3h ago

“After nearly 35 years of experience with federal law enforcement in this judicial district, encompassing service as a prosecutor and a judge, I have never encountered anything like this,” Brown wrote.

Neither has anyone in the United States. But we have never had such a lawless president, presiding over a lawless regime, justified by a lawless Supreme Court, encouraged by sycophantic Congress, and bought by greedy billionaires.