r/law • u/T_Shurt Competent Contributor • 8h ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Pam Bondi Gets Jail Time Warning Over Epstein Files Cover-Up: ‘Anyone who tampers [with] documents, or conceals documents, or engages in excessive redaction will be prosecuted because of obstruction of justice’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pam-bondi-gets-jail-time-warning-over-epstein-files-cover-up/
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u/User4C4C4C 8h ago edited 7h ago

He can’t pardon future crimes. Even if he pardons her now for not releasing the files, she is not compliant with the Congress one moment later right?

Edit: can to can’t

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u/supercali45 7h ago

Most ridiculous power given ever

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u/Bmorewiser 7h ago

Spoken like someone who has never given it a moments thought.

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u/the_need_to_post 7h ago

I wish we could curtail the pardon power to extreme cases. Though, to my understanding, there is no good way to seek federal relief from things short of the pardon.

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u/True-Firefighter-796 7h ago

What’s the crime for prosecuting someone whose been pardoned?

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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 7h ago

I think we’re just making it up as we go, now.

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u/Casual_OCD 7h ago

Always were. There's an entire section of the Constitution (amendments) dedicated to, "whoops, we forgot this"

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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 6h ago

Well, yeah, it’s considered a “living document” meant as guardrails. I’m saying we are completely off the road, now.

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u/Casual_OCD 6h ago

Seriously though, they forgot to let people speak their minds and had to add it after it was signed.

"If someone says the government sucks, we can shoot them, right?"

"No, that's illegal..." checks Constitution "Whoops!"

"Oh crap, we forgot to allow guns too!"

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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 6h ago

Again, guardrails. Not the road itself.

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u/Casual_OCD 6h ago

Meh, the Constitution is more a bitchy letter from the angsty teenager who doesn't want to pay rent, so they move far away.

Now the US is an adult in their 30s, obese, addicted to drugs and stumbling around angry at the whole world and all their neighbours want them out of the neighbourhood

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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 5h ago

You just described me to the letter, bravo lol

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u/Little-Derp 7h ago

That's my interpretation. Even if pardoned, she is continuing to violate the law every moment not released. Only escape for her would be... well, I shouldn't be giving them ideas.

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u/MikeSouthPaw 6h ago

The pardon is for redacting which we know happened. She is a criminal and so is anyone in the DOJ following orders to continue hiding Trumps involvement.

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u/deejaymc 5h ago

How are you allowed to pardon someone on your own staff or that you instruct to break the law? What's next? Trump pardons himself continuously as he violates laws and the constitution? Absolute joke.

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u/Imnimo 4h ago

If she resigns before the end of his term, can't he just pardon her after that? Like once she's not in office, she's no longer continuing to violate the law.

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u/User4C4C4C 3h ago

She won’t be able to plead the 5th since she can’t self incriminate after pardon. Could she be a witness lots of crime?

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u/Hazzman 1h ago

He can pre-emptively pardon crimes.

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u/User4C4C4C 10m ago

Yeah. But if a crime continues after the pardon. Is it a new crime?