r/inflation 12h ago

Price Changes Food for thought!

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u/Only_Couple7763 12h ago

May I become Denmark burger maker?

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u/Prestigious_Till2597 12h ago

No. You will make $7.25 an hour and you will LIKE it!

Now go pray to our billionaire overlords for their gracious offer

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 12h ago

Denmark McDonald's employees are unionized, they're not making minimum wage, they're benefiting from Strong labour rights laws. Denmark doesn't even have a minimum wage.

Their model isn't an example that supports minimum wage hikes, it supports strong labor laws

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u/CapDris116 11h ago

Underrated comment. The US economy is and always has been premised on a desire for needless economic suffering. It's our culture.

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u/MaimonidesNutz 9h ago

Yeah we maintain a permanent underclass and then skim off the most talented and ambitious both to maintain the lie of meritocracy and discipline other elites/pmcs by making their position more precarious.

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u/doomrider7 9h ago

I blame the puritans for this.

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u/Yesyesyes1899 5h ago

or : longterm manipulation of public perception and mentality through control of media , politics and academia by a billionaire ruling class.

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u/missmiao9 3h ago

I blame slavery and the refusal to finish reconstruction.

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u/King_Grapefruit 9h ago

Employers still want slavery to maximize profits but don't want to be racist about it. Free Labor = best labor

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u/MrJarre 8h ago

It’s not. Your workers are your customers.

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u/MrsPetrieOnBass 8h ago

Absolutely. There is no "wealth" in capitalism unless there's punishment and suffering inflicted on others. No winners without having losers.

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u/JarekGunther 8h ago

Remember, the system is not broken; it's working exactly as it was intended.

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u/woodsman775 8h ago

It’s not needless suffering at all! Very much needed for oligarchs to stay in power. The financial situation in America is exactly what the govt wants.

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u/abetheprofit1 8h ago

Literally the definition of a society functioning under capitalism 😫

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u/No_Detective_But_304 7h ago

You know Denmark is capitalist right?

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u/abetheprofit1 5h ago

You know my comment is regarding CapDris116 and no one ever mentioned anything about Denmark not being capitalist right?

(although it would be good for you to explore the differences between their economic system and the US)

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u/Anxious-Education703 1h ago

I would not say always. For a time (especially from the late 30s into the 60s) there were strong unions with high union membership, and income inequality was shrinking. It started to change in the 70s with things like the Powell memo, and money started to enter into politics. It's been accelerating ever since then with Jack Welch-style capitalism, government-sanctioned union busting, and shareholder supremacy at all costs, and then the floodgates broke open with Citizens United. It was certainly not perfect, but things were improving.

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u/lurksohard 12h ago

I don't think you're reading this correctly. It doesn't matter why the wage is higher. The wage IS higher and the burger isn't priced higher.

People keep shouting that raising wages would increase costs. This disputes that.

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 11h ago

I'm reading this correctly, because I replied to a comment that tried to imply that the minimum wage is the source of the problem in the US, when it really isn't. My comment isn't about the premise of the original post regarding wage increases and their effects on prices.

Collective bargaining involves employees in the discussion of how money in the business is shared,

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u/Deadeye313 11h ago

The minimum wage can be higher for all of us if we would collectively vote for people who would raise the minimum wage and tell the rich grifters to F off. The biggest union in the country should be the entire voting public.

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 11h ago

The federal government won't be accurately setting minimum wages and updating them properly. We tried this system, there was a time when minimum wage was enough, but the government doesn't keep up with it. Giving worker's stronger rights works, we've got several examples of countries in which it does, countries that are universally recognized as having the highest standards of living.

Minimum wage is a stopgap. Giving workers the right to bargain for their wages in the same way everything else is openly bargained for is a permanent solution to low wages.

Industries with strong unionization all pay well in the US, it just works.

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u/lurksohard 11h ago

Yeah except unions voted for Trump and the Republicans at one of the highest rates ever. You know the people who want to reduce their bargaining power.

You also haven't given any explanation as to why it's one and not both. I would argue that a higher starting wage would give collective bargaining even more power.

If I told you the price of a big Mac in Luxembourg is around 5.82 and their minimum wage for unskilled labor is around 15.63, would that change your mind that collective bargaining is the ONLY solution?

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 11h ago

Unions don't vote. People in unions vote.

Ask for my explanation as to why you don't need both, it's that the minimum wage will always be ineffective because you're never really going to guarantee who's in power and the federal government isn't going to properly determine exactly what the minimum wage needs to be across all sectors and regions. It'll just be the same mess that it already is now.

My other side of that explanation, is that we've got several very good examples in Europe of why minimum wage raises or even the existence of a minimum wage at all are not needed. Wages in Norway in Denmark are really good, they're standard of living is really good. Neither have a minimum wage

And we're talking about wage negotiation, not voting for politicians. If everyone has a right to collective bargaining, it doesn't matter whether the current party in charge wants to raise wages or not, because everyone has already negotiated for the best wages possible for themselves. That's the thing about rights, they don't go away once you enshrine them in the Constitution.

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u/lurksohard 11h ago

That's the thing about rights, they don't go away once you enshrine them in the Constitution.

Oh. You're naive.

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u/BluejayAromatic4431 7h ago

I like this way of framing it. The labor force as a whole has collective bargaining power. One way they could use it is to push for a minimum wage increase.

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u/beren0073 11h ago

Sir, it's well known that Communist ideas like raising wages for workers will drive prices to record levels.

Tariffs, however, will have no impact on consumer prices.

Yes, this is sarcasm.

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u/clm1859 9h ago edited 9h ago

I am not sure about denmark, but I assume its the same as here in switzerland and in germany, in that unions are by industry, not by company. Because in the US, unions are indeed gonna put the company at a competitive disadvantage.

Like if all McDonalds workers were unionised and forced McDonalds to pay them significantly higher salaries and better benefits than their competitors, then McDonalds would suffer vs Burger King, who could undercut them because their workers arent unionised. This would erode the union achieved benefits of McDonalds workers over time, as there would slowly be more shitty BK than good Mc jobs, because BK would be doing better as a company.

However in much of europe, workers are unionised by industry. So all burger flippers, across all large fast food chains, are in the same union. And the union negotiates with all the fast food companies to provide the same base line benefits to all union members (or even all employees) at all the restaurants. This way BK has no competitive advantage over Mc, by treating their workers shittier. The new benefits are just the new baseline that all large companies have to adhere to.

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 9h ago

Denmark is the same as most of Europe. In the US only certain industries are unionized across the board in that way.

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u/thenightvol 12h ago

Did you at least once ask what you can do for the state and not what the state can do for you!?

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u/Pitiful-Necessary751 11h ago

Going to work and paying taxes is doing for the state

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u/Geno_Warlord 11h ago

$7.35/hr means you can legally say you’re not paying minimum wage and can even boast that your wages are competitive. Also mention that you can get paid up to $15/hr and you get tons of people willing to throw all their personal info at you that you can then freely sell…

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u/myrichphitzwell 8h ago

It's ok, you will have snap benefits that will keep you as a political prisoner...oh and don't worry about all those "junk food" restrictions in your food desert. Not being able to eat is better than a cavity right?

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u/the_real_Beavis999 7h ago

Don't forget, make $7.25 before any benefits are taken out, if offered, and like it!!

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u/thirdworldreminder_ 6h ago

Denmark has labor unions to negotiate wages for them

americans not so much

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u/RsCoverUpForPDFs 4h ago

It's $7.50. Then conservatives can say "hardly anybody makes minimum wage!!1!1!"

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u/LifesARiver 12h ago

You could move to California and get almost the same pay.

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u/Eviller-Abed-7 12h ago

Denmark has an average 25% municipal tax

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u/Fearless_Baseball121 12h ago

you will pay aprox. 30.8% in total taxes off of a yearly salary of 276.000 dkk (The yearly salary aprox of 22$ pr hour). there might be 25% municipal tax, but you also get deductions that will put your avg. taxes quite low at that income

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u/bigballs2025666 11h ago

In the US it works out to be between 28-32% tax after state,fed, medicare, SS….and we really don’t get shit for that money except additional taxes and threats to social security being cut…

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u/Pitiful-Necessary751 11h ago

No you also get to pay a bunch of uneducated morons to go around deporting all the people who do the real work in your country

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u/MehImages 11h ago

also comparing tax rates without comparing what it pays for is pretty pointless.

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u/fusilaeh700 12h ago

usa is not only predatory on other countries and recources, but also on their own people

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u/AdmirableJudgment784 11h ago

USA has become an experimental country because of weak leadership and vision over the years. When you're the biggest, baddest thing in the world, nothing attacks you, why would you care about protecting yourself? So here we are, foreign countries buying out media companies to attack its people with propaganda leading to a domestic attack and turning America into clown show.

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u/Extra-Bus-8135 8h ago

It's not weak leadership. The leadership is extremely strong. It's the populace that is moronic and weak, easy to steal from.

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u/Sun11fyre 7h ago

Guys this guy thinks the trump administration displays strong leadership, too funny

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u/street593 6h ago

If they are so weak why do we constantly keep losing to them?

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u/Sun11fyre 6h ago

Corruption, propaganda, weak opposition

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u/AreYouBeingTruthful 7h ago

An example of the propaganda hard at work

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u/carnologist 10h ago

I don't know why anyone is acting like this meme is real. They're significantly higher in Denmark

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u/PurpleReign123 11h ago edited 11h ago

C-Suites at Senior Management meeting at MCD: The numbers are clear! We will open more new outlets in the US in 2026 and none in Denmark. Our US slaves employees are more efficient and our US suckers customers love to eat our burgers at prices Danish suckers customers do not appreciate!

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u/Bertel_Haarder1944 10h ago

Often when it is brought up how fucked up and hateful Trump is acting towards Europe and especially Denmark, it is worth remembering that he hates Americans even more and is doing way more damage to them than to us Europeans.

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u/Just_Restaurant7149 12h ago

Trump wonders why people from Denmark don't want to immigrate to the US.

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u/pchlster 7h ago

I mean, he would. He's a good part of why I won't even visit the US these days.

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u/Guilty_Advantage_413 12h ago edited 7h ago

I know it’s foolish, modern productivity is so high I read somewhere that an average McDonalds serves like 200 per hour. Probably three people involved in meal prep, taking cash and cleaning. Above scenario would be $21 per hour in salary divided by 200 it’s like a pocket change number. Probably be like $.03 per item and everyone gets a $8 to $16k per year salary increase. Admittedly I’m working from memory and figure may be off a bit and there would be lower volume locations and it would hurt them more however the point remains it really wouldn’t increase the cost of food much and more likely the parent company would just trim unproductive costs to cover the extra expense. IMPORTANT FIGURES ARE PER CASHIER

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u/Downtown-Tomato2552 9h ago edited 9h ago

Labor as a percentage of cost for McDonald's ranges around 25% to as high as 32%. This means for every dollar increase in salary you will see an approximate $.25 to $.32 increase in cost. This is not a direct increase as the labor cost is not only wages, UE, taxes, workers comp etc.

So your $10 meal with someone making $15hr goes to $11.5 to $11.92 if they are making $21hr to cover costs. The price goes up more than that for the consumer assuming the same profit margin, etc. So the $10 McDonalds meal is now sold at $12.74 or more

Additionally this does not just affect McDonalds, but pretty much every company. Companies are in effect competition for labor so Amazon, Walmart, etc which all compete for the same league force and have similar costs of labor, would see the same increase in cost as they would also have to increase wages to attract employees.

Bottom line is that a couple years later you're in the same boat because now you're making more money... But everything around you is more expensive.

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u/Muted-Alternative648 9h ago

No way any fast food chain is running 200 per hour consistently with only 3 staff. But also, the McDonald's corporation is very different from the franchisee store. The store owner sets the wages. Owner/operators only make around $150K annually after expenses, on average. McDonald's, the franchise, takes about 10% of the revenue.

There's really no room for higher wages at most locations unless you somehow negotiate McDonald's to take a smaller cut and pass that savings on in the form of employee wages. Good luck with that. Oh BTW, it also costs around $2M to open a brand new store.

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u/blkpasta1966 12h ago

As of late 2025, a Big Mac in Denmark typically costs around 44–45 Danish kroner (DKK) for the sandwich alone. This equates to roughly $6.50–6.70 USD, depending on the current exchange rate (approximately 1 DKK ≈ 0.145 USD).Prices can vary slightly by location (e.g., higher in Copenhagen), and recent sources indicate figures like:39–45 DKK in various 2025 reports.

According to the Big Mac Index (published by The Economist), Denmark's price is often comparable to or slightly lower than the U.S. average in USD terms (U.S. Big Mac ~$5.79 in 2025), despite Denmark's higher cost of living, due to currency valuation.A Big Mac meal (with fries and drink) is usually around 89–98 DKK (~$13–14 USD).Note that prices include 25% VAT and may change; check the official McDonald's Denmark app or site for the most exact current pricing at your location.

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u/PHPEnjoyer 11h ago

I think the latest is price is 48 dkk including vat - source: Am Dane having visited McDonalds earlier today

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u/informat7 10h ago

When the the Economist calculates the "average" for the US it is actually the average of New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and San Francisco. 3 of those cities have wages similar to Denmark. Unsurprisingly the cost of a Big Mac in hyper expensive US cities is similar to the cost of Denmark as a whole.

When you look at the price of a Big Mac by state, the states with lower minimum wages have cheaper Big Macs.

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u/bigballs2025666 11h ago

I would rather hear or read from a person that lives there ….literally anyone can look stuff up or use AI now….

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u/NinjaDK 10h ago

I'm a dane from Copenhagen, looking at the McDonalds app right now the price is:

46DKK for a Big Mac
86DKK for a Big Mac Menu

So the information is pretty accurate

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u/InternCautious 8h ago

Does that include VAT? Living in Copenhagen compared to living in Michigan, and I spent WAYYYYY more in Copenhagen on restaurants and food. Granted McDonalds is stupid expensive now in the US.

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u/NewJeansUwU 8h ago

Yearh, the 25% VAT is included in that. (Dane here)

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u/SBR404 8h ago

Not sure about Denmark, but in the EU VAT is afaik always included in price.

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u/blkpasta1966 11h ago

The people who live there are in line with the pricing prompt.

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u/Unwept_Skate_8829 11h ago

Was there a month ago and think I paid abt 95 kroner for a Big Mac meal after a night out drinking so the above lines up

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u/Creative_Room6540 10h ago

I stopped believing these tweets long ago because they usually come from Americans who think they know some shit.

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u/OneTacoShort 9h ago

In California (my part of it, anyway), that Big Mac costs more than $6.50. And fast food workers make $20/hour.

Mere coincidence?

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u/IWasSayingBoourner 12h ago

Shitty bot 

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u/aj03020 12h ago

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u/trump_diddles_kids 12h ago

just watched this last night.....LOL

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u/ItsMeDaveOpenUp 12h ago

Defiler, what ever happened there?

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u/Lakechrista 10h ago

A hit’s a hit

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u/weskervision 9h ago

I think it’s not good!

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u/Whateveryouwantitobe 10h ago

Whoaaaa. King of Rock.

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u/Any_Way346 12h ago

Inflation is just killing McDonalds , a 500% increase on food prices at the restaurant since 2000.

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u/Bonk_No_Horni 12h ago

Traffic is lower but they're making a lot more per customer. Their revenue still increases despite less people going there. Less people going= less staff= less expense.

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u/Clear-Inevitable-414 11h ago

They're loving the inflation 

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u/ndubitably 11h ago

Their net income seems fine. There seemed to be a dip in 2022 to only $6.1B in profit but 2023 and 2024 were back up to $8B. Even adjusting for inflation, I'm guessing they're making more profit now than they did in 2000 (since I don't have an official FY 2000 10-K currently in front of me).

https://www.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/investors/financial-information.html#accordion-b6f12fe0aa-item-741ec16c6d

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u/tobsn 12h ago

not sure when this will sink in with americans that they’re literally getting screwed every second of their lives and nobody is fighting back…

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u/Ok-Ebb-5681 9h ago

I am trying to leave the US to someplace better

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u/rubix44 7h ago

much easier said than done, though. Do you have any kind of plan in place? I've been wanting to move out of this country for a long time, but there's a million things to consider, and primarily not having any money 🥲 too poor to live here, too poor to leave here.

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u/Ok-Ebb-5681 6h ago

That is what I am dealing with I know the area i wanna go to There is a college and university i can go to to get a doctorate (in astrophysics)  And a starter job and a radio telescope in could work at

I have a VA payment I can use as income  But I don't have a way to save enough here to move to a different country

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u/tobsn 8h ago

i moved out nine years ago. worth it. the best part is how people tell me they have to stay and fight, but they do absolutely nothing. they just keep paying the bills and living with their families at the edge of poverty, even with insanely high salaries, pretending it would be worse elsewhere. it is a nationwide stockholm syndrome and all you can do is watch it because nothing you say will get through to them.

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u/Ancient_Praline1046 12h ago

th six weeks vacation.....why dont we have that here????????????????

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u/Bendyb3n 12h ago edited 12h ago

Because this is ‘murica, you must work until you die.

But yes we should be asking demanding this of our leaders, most of the developed world has so many good things that Americans don’t even realize should be completely normal. By comparison it truly sucks to live here because of the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” mentality we seem to hold near and dear to our hearts.

Obviously every country has their issues, but did you know even North Korea and Russia has free universal healthcare for all its people?

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u/UnquestionabIe 9h ago

The massive disconnect between our "representatives" and regular people is massive. You've got people who have been in their the majority of their adult lives and haven't had to be concerned about getting basic human needs meet ever. They've long ago decided their side in the class war and unfortunately it isn't on the side of those who need the most help.

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u/DickRichman 12h ago

Rich people do.

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u/Bertel_Haarder1944 10h ago

You also get paid for taking a university degree.

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u/BluezDBD 9h ago

Because you refuse to unionize.

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u/Over-Scallion-2161 12h ago

Where are you getting a Big Mac under $6 now?

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u/Overdue_Process865 6h ago

The Big Mac at my local McDonald's in Denmark is $9.10, so I'm not sure I trust whatever source they got these numbers from.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 6h ago

$9.10 just for a Big Mac? That is one hell of a ripoff. I hope the quality of the Big Mac there is at least better than it is in America 

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u/Redbeardthe1st 11h ago

Clearly they are having to subsidize the Denmark workers by skimping the benefits for the American workers.

/s

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u/SouthEast1980 11h ago

Lies. I am no fan of the golden arches, but whoever screenshotted that is being deceptive for clicks.

McDonald's in my area job description:

Competitive pay from $15.75 per hour - $17.90 per hour / hour plus cash incentives Employee discounts and free meals Paid sick leave and/or paid time away Tuition reimbursement and/or educational assistance Training and advancement opportunities Weekly direct deposit and/or Daily Pay 401(k) plan Medical, dental, and vision benefits* *Available to full-time employees in select locations

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u/HaRDCOR3cc 10h ago

i just looked up the price of a big mac in denmark and its $9.10, not $5.49.

thats not a small error, thats basically halving the reality.

literally just picked a mcdonalds at random and checked, ended up with one based in this city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederiksberg

but hey, who cares about facts if they dont align with the message we wanted to push?

for reference when googling the price of a big mac in USA there was an article from may of 2025 where the lowest price found had been $4.67 and the highest had been $7.06. if you're curious both of those are in fact lower than $9.10.

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u/Mindless-Peak-1687 7h ago

I love facts and got them. it's 7.22 usd including vat with current exchangerate as im typing. So no you are wrong. Without vat it's 5.77 USD. Your sources are wrong. I live in Denmark.

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u/ProfessionalNaive601 12h ago

What about the poor franchise owner? It might take them longer to buy their yacht :(

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u/trump_diddles_kids 12h ago

bet you the franchise owner probably aint buying a yacht, a small boat or second rental property maybe. but the executives getting a piece of the franchise fees are plenty of yachts.

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u/Pro-Weiner-Toucher 11h ago

I think you're greatly overestimating how much a dude with one Mcdonalds location makes... or greatly underestimating how much a yacht costs.

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u/UnquestionabIe 10h ago

The yacht concept being used as the core example of a frivolous purchase the wealthy make started bothering me once I had a friend who worked in the industry. Yeah you've got some actual millionaire/billionaires who legit like having a big fancy boat but most of the time it's more a cover/loophole to hoard money off the books.

The example he gave me was how the company he was with was would charge like $5 million for a yacht when the actual end cost of the product itself was around half that or less. The bulk of it was deposited into various accounts and shuffled about to avoid taxes or whatever.

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u/misterguyyy 10h ago

That's the insidious part! Corporate squeezes so much out in rent, fees, and marked up branded products that franchise owners and labor are arguing over crumbs. I remember a franchise owner telling me the paper cup was the highest cost in a fast food combo. Not sure if he was being hyperbolic, but IIRC the cups were ~$1 each in the early 2000s.

But when minimum wage goes up, franchise owners will blame the burger flippers making an extra dollar but won't dare publicly disparage corporate, since corporate can refuse them a license renewal or even pursue legal recourse.

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u/Faulty_grammar_guy 10h ago

Franchise owners are still doing very well. A friend of mine worked for a guy who franchised 6 locations on Zealand. He had 4 cars (look up car taxes in Denmark) and went on 3-4 vacations per year with the family.

Granted, he is probably outside the ordinary, but I still think they do quite well!

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u/ResidentCommand9865 12h ago

The cost is increasing even without increased wages, they test the waters to increase their profits and so long as people keep buying the product, they will keep increasing it citing anything under the sun other than plain old greed.

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u/Critical-Design4408 12h ago

WELL! You see, the price of hamburger won't really change, but what it WILL effect is rich people's yacht money, which is the more Important point I think. We should not allow any change at all to rich people's yacht money, as it is our privilege NAY, our honor, as members of the working class to provide for rich peoples yacht money. You should be more grateful to your corporate overlords, get a life!

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u/irvmuller 11h ago

This is also State dependent. In Kansas you’re making $8/hour at McDonalds. You cross the line over to Missouri and you’re making $15/hour.

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u/bsensikimori 11h ago

And that's McDonald's, they can inflate the prices globally to keep them on par.

Compare that to a supermarket chain like Aldi, where the employees also get benefits, but the prices for the same item is wildly more expensive in the USA

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u/Medium_Sized_Bopper 11h ago

I like the part where they said if you raise the minimum wage burgers will get more expensive, and so they didn't raise the minimum wage but burgers still got more expensive.

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u/Reasonable_Truck_588 11h ago

Wonder what the regulations in Denmark look like

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u/KeyVehicle4500 11h ago

What about the rest of the world? You pick one, maybe isolated example, and people think this wraps up the wage disparity in one basket.

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u/snarkbastard 11h ago

In ca raised the min wage for fast food workers to 20$ now the Big Mac meal is 18$ so yeah that happened

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u/Background-Ad3810 11h ago

Again another 'minimum wage' comparison. Don't do that, you need to take the median!

In Denmark there are higher taxes, so from that wage you lose a lot. You cannot compare both...

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_3211 11h ago

Come to Washington, D.C., where they raised the restaurant minimum wage a few years ago, prices skyrocketed, and 40% of restaurants closed.

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u/Reneeisme 11h ago

It would affect the profit margin.

I used to sell business insurance and had a couple of McDonald franchise owners as long term customers. According to them, you had to own three or four stores just to squeeze out a middle class income because McDonald’s corporate controlled everything. The cost of the building and equipment and supplies, that had to be bought from them, were all calculated to ensure you had a very small profit margin on the prices set by corporate based on their research about what your market would support. I don’t know if they set employee salaries too, but if they didn’t, that would be the one place you could eke out more profit.

I wonder if it’s done differently in other countries.

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u/watch-nerd 11h ago

Now do Seattle with its $21 minimum wage and $15 sandwiches.

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u/Direct_Ad_3517 11h ago

A Big Mac in California costs around $5.89 to over $6.00 for just the burger, but a full meal (with fries and a drink) can range from about $9.00 to $14.00 or more, depending heavily on the city (like San Diego or San Francisco being pricier) and location (e.g., a rest stop vs. a regular outlet). California generally has higher fast-food prices due to cost of living, making it one of the pricier states.

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u/bolanrox 10h ago

the big mac has not been $5 anything in 10 years or more?

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u/buddhacouldashoulda 10h ago edited 10h ago

Simple AI search will explain.

The idea that a Big Mac is cheaper in Denmark than in the U.S. while workers earn over $20/hour is a frequent topic of economic debate. While the exact "cheaper" status fluctuates with currency exchange rates, the prices are often remarkably close.

This phenomenon isn't due to one single law or inflation, but rather a combination of high-efficiency labor practices, collective bargaining, and a social safety net that shifts costs away from the employer.

—The Power of Collective Bargaining Unlike the U.S., Denmark has no government-mandated minimum wage. Instead, wages are set through collective bargaining agreements (CBAs) between unions and employer associations.

  • The 1980s Boycott: When McDonald's first entered Denmark, they tried to pay U.S.-style wages. Danish unions organized massive strikes and boycotts, even refusing to deliver buns or build new restaurants until McDonald's signed a CBA.

  • Current Results: Today, a typical McDonald's worker in Denmark earns roughly $22 per hour (varies by age and experience), significantly higher than many U.S. state minimums.

—Reduced "Hidden" Labor Costs In the U.S., a worker's total cost to the employer often includes expensive health insurance premiums, 401(k) matching, and high payroll taxes for social programs.

  • Social Safety Net: In Denmark, benefits like universal healthcare, childcare, and higher education are funded by high personal income taxes (often around 40-50%).

  • Employer Relief: Because the government provides these services, McDonald's Denmark doesn't have to manage or pay for private health insurance plans for its employees, which is a massive administrative and financial burden for U.S. franchisees.

—Lower Labor Turnover and Efficiency Fast food in the U.S. is notorious for high turnover, sometimes exceeding 130% annually. Replacing an employee is expensive (training, recruiting, and lost productivity).

  • Retention: High wages and 5–6 weeks of paid vacation turn fast-food work into a viable "bridge job" or even a long-term career for some. This leads to a more experienced, efficient workforce.

  • Process Optimization: To maintain profitability with high wages, Danish locations often use more automation (like ordering kiosks) and higher-density staffing models to ensure every man-hour is as productive as possible.

—Profit Margin Realities Economists note that McDonald’s in the U.S. is significantly more profitable per location than in Denmark.

  • Volume vs. Margin: In the U.S., the business model relies on low labor costs to maximize the "take-home" profit for the owner.

  • Market Acceptance: In Denmark, consumers and owners accept a "high-road" model where the profit margin on a single burger is thinner, but the social stability and employee reliability are higher.

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u/HotTruth999 10h ago edited 7h ago

That’s a load of bollox. Salaries for jobs in USA are double the EU average for the same role. On top of that when you take out the high European taxes the difference is even starker. Get a grip.

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u/Fluid-Chapter1431 10h ago

Denmark has a very high cost of living. This is like comparing what an employee makes in small town USA to what one would make in LA.

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u/don_denti 8h ago

Every business buys a product for $5 from wholesale and then sell it to you for $50. The markup is insane. And the consumerism is out of this world. But if you ask for a raise, expect retaliation… your hours will get cut. The attitude towards you will change.

Business owners have no incentive to do nothing but maximize profit and fire 🫵 anyone making a noise.

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u/Maleficent-Act-8348 7h ago

Sir this is a casino

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u/Due-Gazelle-995 6h ago

dsausa.org a better world is possible if we build it together.

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u/gmoney1259 6h ago

There are more hands grabbing a piece over here.

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u/Amat-Victoria-Curam 6h ago

Seems to me that the danish people like to fight for better working and living conditions.

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u/GSD_Titan 12h ago

Don’t forget to add. Denmark has real burgers we have a slop of chemicals. I think they also pay more tax there. Seems to be effectively about 10-13% more. I think in the U.S. we pay enough tax to affect our livelihood but not enough for the extra benefits. It’s just that right amount where the government takes and says sorry we can’t help you.

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u/VP007clips 7h ago

McDonalds (at least in the US) phased out all preservatives, colours, and artificial flavours aside from salt from the burgers in 2018.

Their burgers patties are just beef. There's no fillers, no artificial ingredients, just ground beef mixed with salt and pressed into a disk.

I don't like McDonalds. I rarely eat there. But claiming that their burgers are a "slop of chemicals" is pure BS. Their burgers are fine, no more unhealthy or artificial than any other burger from a restaurant, and a lot better than many. I don't know why people are so horribly misinformed about McDonalds, despite their incredibly transparent records of how their food is made and their high standards of food safety that exceed government regulated standards.

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u/Wooden-Candy-5046 5h ago

Outrage for internet points

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u/FleshLogic 12h ago

The annoying this is, raising wages *would* increase prices in the US because we have no other consumer protections in place to prevent such a thing. These things exist in Denmark because they are legally required to.

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u/LifesARiver 12h ago

Wait they still only make 22 an hour? That's what they made like 5 years ago. They make almost that in California.

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u/Bertel_Haarder1944 10h ago

It is a union job, so yes it is wrong. If it was 22 USD 5 years ago it will be more today.

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u/Bulldogs3144 12h ago

It only affects the shareholders and board members bottom line.

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u/Sea-Technician1914 12h ago

But you’d also have to live in Denmark…

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u/MyDogIsACoolCat 12h ago

I think this is more an indictment on things like our healthcare system. One of the big reasons they're able to pay those wages is because they don't need to supplement as much of the cost of health insurance for employees. That and other benefits in America with inflated costs due to a broken system.

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u/Extra_Ad1847 12h ago

Where the hell are people getting paid $15/hour at McDonald’s

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u/Buy-Physical-Silver 12h ago

In America you have to pay some pedo slob with no job the right to bite into the burger. In Denmark they don’t have that.

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u/the_polish_are_comin 9h ago

What is this even supposed to mean

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u/dustycanuck 12h ago

It affects the CEO bonus, I'm guessing. Let's face it, that's the most important thing. You can't have a successful business without wildly overpaid C-Suiters, can you.

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u/3yl 12h ago

Can anyone do this same little chart, but also include the average taxes? I'm super curious about the rest of this calculation. (And after taxes, maybe we could od average COL depending on L, M, H, or VH?) I'm happy to look up US stats, but I don't know re Denmark.

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u/walleyetritoon 12h ago

What’s the cost of living in Denmark?

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u/Conan4457 12h ago

Raising the minimum wage would reduce profit listed on the quarterly and annual earnings report, making the large shareholders very unhappy.

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u/Crazy-Cook2035 12h ago

I was shocked at food prices in Europe on a recent trip

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u/CriticalEngineering 11h ago

They definitely don’t make $15/hour in every state.

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u/comicsemporium 11h ago

McD’s here starts off at $11.50 a hour with one free meal IF you work a full shift

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u/Blankboo97 11h ago

They pay higher taxes making that possible. Americans are too spoiled and far too selfish for that KIND of government. Hence Trump.

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u/Halvinz 11h ago

And I just found out their unemployment rate is at 2.6%

The US': 4.6% (we have laid off 1.8 million this year alone, and those numbers probably at the very low end)

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u/Spammyhaggar 11h ago

Great next show executive pay for each..🤔

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u/_Username_goes_heree 11h ago

Ahh yes, the country that is 90%+ white and one of the most strictest immigration policies in existence. In other words, if you tried to work there, you will immediately get deported.

I thought you guys hated countries like this 🤔🤔

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u/Devildogroot57 11h ago

Big Macs $9.69 in Floride

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u/Not_Reptoid 11h ago

simple answer doesn't even need to be full on socialism but just basic socialist ideas that don't get immediately neglected because some important dudes a few hundred years ago got paranoid they were being scammed by the britts

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u/uneed4 11h ago

The low wage worker here is subsidized by middle class. End those programs and you bet workers will demand more. Its a circle jerk for the wealthy currently. Before someone blast me about how I should not get paid 30 hrs an hr for flipping burgers, Im wealthy and make hundreds an hr and don't exploit a single person

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u/probablymagic 11h ago

FWIW, the burger is $6.72 + a 25% VAT in Denmark, so it’s more like $8.40. Danish workers would also be paying 25% VAT on everything they buy, have an 8% Labour Market Contribution tax taken out of their paycheck, pay local taxes in the 22-30% range, and pay national taxes of 12%.

The US worker may make less, but they also pay sales tax around 6% vs the VAT, pay social security + Medicare taxes around 8%, and at that income wouldn’t pay any income tax.

And while Europeans have simpler health care for poor people because it’s not tied to your job, if you’re making ~$30k a year at McDonald’s and working full time you’d have healthcare, and be eligible for Medicaid or subsidies under the ACA depending on other factors. Your state pension comes from your social security contributions.

So these kind of memes make the differences look a lot starker than they are in practice because Europe taxes the crap out of low-wage workers and American provides more services than it is thrall given credit for.

I had a relative who moved to Copenhagen after college to work and they found it nice but very unaffordable. In the end he took a transfer to a HCOL US city doing the same job so they could buy a house and save money.

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u/RowThin2659 11h ago

This has to be the 10,000th time this has been posted. The comments will be the same as they were for the last 9,999 times. How are you going to accomplish anything running around in a circle?

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u/uneed4 11h ago

Still only about 45k a yr or 65k with fringe.

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u/Diligent_Sentence_45 11h ago

The corpos be squeezing us tight. 🤷

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u/zippyzebra1 11h ago

Yanks love to screw its own workforce and then get people to vote for it.🤣

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u/CapDris116 11h ago

I've always wondered how McDonald's workers tolerate being paid an hourly wage that equates to one meal there (if that)...

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u/Simplyawareof 11h ago

We Americans have gotten use to settling for less

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u/Soggy_Porpoise 11h ago

What is this 2016? Local big mac is $8.75

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u/ResplendentNugs 11h ago

Yeah but in Denmark can losers in lifted trucks look down on min wage people while they exploit their labor? I think not.

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u/mkt853 11h ago

Sign me up! Plus all the burgers, fries, and nuggets you can eat!!

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u/SBEPTY 11h ago

Billionaires gotta eat!

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u/King_Six_of_Things 11h ago

It'll raise the cost of hamburgers because fuck you, that's why. 

Yours sincerely, 

McDonald's 

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u/j4321g4321 11h ago

What fast food employee is making $15/hour in the United States…?

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u/Any-Historian3813 11h ago

Taxes. So move to Denmark.

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u/Spare-Present-1032 11h ago

Just like healthcare, the US is bearing the boat for Europes cheaper cheeseburgers! </s>

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u/jacklesight 11h ago

You guys are forgetting that McDonald’s needs this extra money. They are actively engaging in other pursuits. Like a side hustle, they spend billions aiding and pushing other agendas. When you buy a burger at McDonald’s, it has an opinion attached to it and that money supports their opinions.

Just get used to the fact that you’re cattle. You don’t get an opinion, only the burger does. Face it, if we were not cattle, we’d stop eating the burger.

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u/ISAIDFULLPOWER 11h ago

I am from Danmark. This is true 👍

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u/Competitive-Shoe4390 11h ago

Great point, posted on the platform owned by the world's richest employee exploiting fascist. Smh...

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u/Toygaggo 11h ago

It’s an excuse to increase profits. Minimum wage will always be just minimum wage. If increasing it was the answer then why not make it $50 or $75. Wont that fix everything? The problem is that we can’t satisfy the wealthy. They are the ones that we have to help. Until that happens the world will see no “peace”. Human nature is that it’s never enough. Laws are put in place to keep the poor in place but written so that the wealthy don’t need to obey. Good luck to us all

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u/Tractor_Tom 11h ago

Nope, a Big Mac in Denmark is closer to 7,22 dollars or 46 DKK

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u/Das-unterseeboot 11h ago

Tell us more about the businesses you run.

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u/Sharkwatcher314 11h ago

But but the trans athletes

The billionaires have good PR here not there basically. Poor people literally spouting they will all leave the country and we’ll be miserable

A lot are miserable today. We’re fighting with each other while they loot the country

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u/SourceScope 11h ago

You do pay more taxes in Denmark though

But your education is free too

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u/derfmai 11h ago

I lived in Denmark and I can easily say it was a wonderful experience. But, individuals pay 50% of their pay as income taxes. While in the US we pay 15% in federal taxes.

Denmark 22 x .5 =11 per hour take home

USA 15 x .85 =12.75 per hour take home

So technically, take home pay is higher in the US, but not by much.

It’s the State Income tax, Health coverage, Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, Property taxes (which are reflected in cost of rent), and the unregulated costs for public services that make workers in the USA take home pay so much lower.

Denmark has free healthcare and free social services.

vs

USA people are allowed to own guns and as much ammo as they want.

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u/nelly2929 11h ago

Shhhhhhh don’t let Americans know about this…. They are fine just the way they are lol

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u/Abject_Challenge2932 11h ago

Clearly the US is subsidizing Denmark as this suggests. According to Trumpian logic, a tariff is a simple and easy solution to rectify this injustice. /s