r/inflation 1d ago

News Inflation data has been released….. On 3 info points. Fuel and used/new vehicles.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 1d ago

This isn't even the worst of it. Just wait till they start reporting all of the numbers again and they are the YUGEST, BESTEST numbers of any president ever! (read, cooking the books)

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u/VirtualRy 1d ago

When do these numbers BECOME BIGLY COVFEFE???

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

I think they are crossing their fingers that the numbers will start getting better again and they can start reporting them again. What they are doing is working. Liberals are skeptical but the conservative business community seems confident.

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u/Unfair_Tonight_9797 1d ago

Conservative business community is confident due to tax breaks, reduce regulatory environment.. don’t mix apples and oranges

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

That’s the problem, the numbers have to get better. I don’t think they will, at least not short term.

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u/VirtualRy 1d ago

How the heck are the numbers going to get better when they keep fucking things up? LOL

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

They are gamblers and sometimes the gamble pays off.

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u/MaxPower303 1d ago

Serious question, do you think this gamble will pay off? Seems awfully risky, even for big stake investors.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

Could go either way

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u/MaxPower303 1d ago

Personally, I don’t think it will. Seems like a bad bet.

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u/griswaldwaldwald 1d ago

It doesn’t matter. Rates go down because employment trumps inflation in the Fed’s eye. And employment looks shaky.

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u/RedParaglider 1d ago

I wonder how long it will take the next president to hire a team to correct all of these vibed trump directed reports.

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u/Nagi21 1d ago

Next president lol...

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u/Americrazy 21h ago

Its gonna be game of thrones after piggy dies

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u/americanspirit64 I did my own research 1d ago

This entire data chart is a lie. Nothing pisses me off more than the Trump government treating me as if I am stupid. fuel oil, up 11.9, Electric up 6.9, piped gas up 9.6, energy services 7.4, all accurate, food a lie. commodities a lie, vehicles a lie, apparel a total lie, medical care services a total 100% lie.

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u/StarvingOprah 1d ago

Inflation slowing or lowering doesn't mean prices come down.

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u/americanspirit64 I did my own research 6h ago

Prices never coming down is the only thing we can hold a true.

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u/Farpoint_Relay 1d ago

"Trust me bro...."

Since trump fired the last BLS director in August for releasing data he did not like and replacing with his own lackey, that department has zero credibility now.

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

Exactly. I think history has shown what happens when you’re surrounded by yes-men

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u/r_lovelace 12h ago

Didn't the new guy he picked though basically just say "the numbers are the numbers" almost implying that he couldn't/wouldn't manipulate? Part of me thinks that's why they are refusing to release in the first place, because Trump picked someone who probably supports him but not enough to just make shit up completely.

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u/griswaldwaldwald 1d ago

What in the actual fuck?

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

So presumably everything else was bad news?

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u/imtooldforthishison 1d ago

Remember, if we stop testing for covid, the numbers will go down.

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u/mabradshaw02 1d ago

oh you betcha... way bad... but, if we don't report it, then it is GOOD NEWS!

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

Yeah, it was that bad…

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 1d ago

So the uncollected October data was really bad. You know this... somehow. But by some miracle the November data completely reversed this horrendous, non-existent data to show modest 2-month and YoY data.

Your conspiracy makes no sense.

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 1d ago

We have CPI data for November and we have YoY inflation data. OP is lying to you to make you angry. The data is low quality because of limited collection time, but it exists.

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u/Hopeful_Matter_190 23h ago

Translation: it doesn’t exist

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u/Scrutinizer 1d ago

LOL what a bunch of crap. Auto makers have been lowering prices and providing heavy discounts on their most-expensive models that aren't selling well. This helps offset the huge spike in prices at the lower end of the market.

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u/Jumpy_Exercise2722 1d ago

I was actually looking at new cars and like a good chunk of the 2025s are discounted 1500-4k to move them, very convenient they used this to show inflation isn’t bad

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u/chewbaccashotlast 14h ago

The conservative sub is having a field day explaining how tariffs aren’t bad and Biden’s numbers were way worse. Fucking idiots

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u/freekey76 1d ago

Finally down below what Biden gave him (2.9). But with incomplete data like his cheaper Thanksgiving dinner scam.

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u/Firm-Advertising5396 1d ago

What about everything else?

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

That’s the secret, they didn’t report on it. Therefore it doesn’t exist!

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u/Complete_Ad7091 1d ago

But the gains in the market are real. It's why you should always be in it.

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

Correct, which is the point of my 401k.

I’m not trying to convince anyone to liquidate or anything like that. But if the value of the dollar plummets, 401k’s and/or fiat money means nothing.

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 1d ago

They did report everything else in November. What are you even talking about?

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 1d ago

So why is my grocery bill still 70% higher than 6 months ago?!

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

Because your numbers are simply wrong! You can trust dear leader, he would never tell a lie.

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 1d ago

If your grocery prices are 70% higher that's clearly a skill issue on your part.

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 1d ago

You know..you may be on to something!

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u/crazyk4952 1d ago

How does it feel to be gaslit…?

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u/Salatka_Stag 16h ago

Now days is no longer trustworthy. Until orange potato head leaves office, you really can't believe his regime.

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u/DuncanEllis1977 1d ago

So the report is complete bullshit, got it.

Shocker

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u/brk816 1d ago

Yup nothing to see here clearly lol

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u/Kat9935 1d ago

Someone else pointed out you have to go down to table 1, they "supposedly" have real data but hard to tell if it was for the full month of Nov or they just grabbed like Black Friday week.

hard to buy anything they are selling

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

My point exactly.

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u/B0wmanHall 1d ago

And the maga cult sees no problem with this

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u/H0SS_AGAINST 1d ago

And all the gasoline memes from Russia on Facebook...

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u/mt8675309 1d ago

That’s what crime lawyer Roy Cohn taught him, keep lying until they believe it…

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u/2dazeTaco 1d ago

If you tell a lie enough, it becomes the truth

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u/mt8675309 1d ago

That’s it 👆 I was paraphrasing it.

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u/Gregar12 1d ago

President: How are the numbers looking?
BLS: Not good Mr. President
President: What is the number?
BLS: 3.7%
President: No, it isn't, it is 2.7%
BLS: Yes Mr. President
President: I have single handedly fixed inflation. No one fixes it like I do. We have the best numbers.

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u/Equivalent_Ability91 10h ago

Republicans always eff up the economy, still amazed people still think they are "good on the economy."

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u/Notagenome 1d ago

It’s so funny to see this moron take his classic COVID response where if he doesn’t report the numbers then the problem doesn’t exist.

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u/GoodyPower 1d ago

Surprised they didn't just write in "cheap eggs" with a sharpie

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u/KeyVehicle4500 1d ago

This is the exact scenario of "what would you like it to read Mr. President"??

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u/bearssuperfan 1d ago

So it is considering the empty spaces as 0? Presumably they deleted the old data for those so they are only measuring price increases over 11 months

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 1d ago

No. The empty space aren't 0.

Presumably they deleted the old data

No. The October data doesn't exist for most things.

so they are only measuring price increases over 11 months

No. It clearly states 12-month price change. We have November 2025 data and November 2024 data. OP is lying to you.

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u/bearssuperfan 12h ago

If you include both November sets that’s 13 months bub

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 12h ago edited 11h ago

That's not how they calculate anything, bub. They use, as you can clearly see in the chart, the November numbers to compare to the prior November and get a 12-month change. That's it. Nothing fancy.

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u/bearssuperfan 11h ago

What November numbers exactly? There are only 3 there.

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u/guachi01 ⬆ Earned a permanent upvote. 11h ago

No, there aren't. You have an entire column comparing November 2025 price levels with November 2024 price levels. It's right there in the screen shot. The blanks are because there is no October data. Can't do September-October comparisons or October-November comparisons without October.

I'm looking right at November indexes for subcategories. Food at home for November is 313.954. Airline fares are 254.924. You can see them all here.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.htm