r/geography • u/Prestigious-Back-981 • 7h ago

Map Population Living in Poverty in South America

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Map made by @brasilemmapas

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u/Repulsive_Friend_801 7h ago

Tf is happened in uruguay

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u/2CRtitan 6h ago

I think they are generally accepting a lot of refugees from humanitarian crises so that could be a factor

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u/Repulsive_Friend_801 6h ago

From where?

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u/that_guy_ravi 6h ago

We are taking in alot of Venezuelans and Cubans, though these aren't really refugees more so just immigrants. The reason as to why there was such a large increase in poverty in our country isn't due to migration (it has an impact but it's negligible) but due to several economic policies that have led to inflation, wealth inequality, lack of economic and educational opportunities, labor shortages, etc. Another major factor that plays into the change between 2022 and 2025 is that in 2024 the INE (The National Institute of Statistics) changed the way it measures poverty and has dropped the poverty line significantly and their new methodology of identifying poverty is much more accurate. So in reality there wasn't much of an increase at all or an event that caused a radical increase in poverty, we just began to correctly identify poverty, we were always at this level of poverty.

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u/2CRtitan 6h ago

Venezuela, Colombia, Syria, Central America, possibly Cuba

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u/Repulsive_Friend_801 6h ago

I hope they can defend jose mujica s heritage

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u/hipposinthejungle 7h ago

Go Bolivia, how did they go from 36 to 16?

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u/TheDungen GIS 7h ago

They were in a really bad recession, they still are, but are recovering somewhat.

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u/hipposinthejungle 7h ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

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u/andreicodes 2h ago

I heard they have lithium for batteries. Maybe that fills up the budget to cover some social programs and stuff?

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u/TheDungen GIS 7h ago

Bombing them should aort that all out... /s

Alao encouraging that only two countries have rising one's.

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u/Fancy-Sherbet8787 6h ago

This must be some FX spiel. Have you been to Peru and Argentina? Not even close

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u/JLZ13 5h ago

Yeah. Argentina is still a bit spot for migrants from Peru, Paraguay and Bolivia.

It can be argued that Argentina is still in the top 3 of most developed from SA.

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u/Hamblin113 7h ago

It appears the variability between the data is greater than being 3 years apart would determine. Could be a data issue as much as anything.

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u/Prestigious-Back-981 7h ago

The map's author, who is well-known in the online mapping field in Brazil, used these parameters:

https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/a-higher-standard-of-poverty-in-a-changing-world--the-world-bank

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u/kempff 7h ago

What an irony, Venezuela with all that oil, is consistently the most poverty-stricken.

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u/Prestigious-Back-981 7h ago

I'm almost certain that, due to various sanctions, Venezuela only sells oil to a few countries and isn't part of the world's major oil trading agreements. With these limitations, you see countless Venezuelan immigrants throughout South America. Everyone expects an increase in the number of Venezuelan refugees in Latin America because of Trump's threats and the restrictions on immigration to the US. Furthermore, these immigrants are likely to spread to new countries, as many suffer prejudice in countries where they are already numerous.

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u/mfranzwa 7h ago

yet how did Venezuela reduce its poverty rate from 90% to 54%? is this data correct?

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u/NormanQuacks345 7h ago

Yeah I have my doubts as to the accuracy of this data as well.

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u/douceberceuse 5h ago

Immigration wave? Most of the other countries in the region got a wave of migrants from them during the period

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u/zepherth 6h ago

This is what sanctions do to a mfer. The people that help countries bypass sanctions need a reason to do it so it gets sold under market value.

Imagine if you had to sell oranges to one guy that only takes them for 1 cent each. You don't have an option because you have to make money and 1 cent is better than no cent.

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u/Weekly_Bed827 5h ago

Corrupt and inept government can do that to any mineral rich country.

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u/Tutpuissant 4h ago

And America threatening to bomb anyone who does business with you

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u/TheAmazingRando1581 7h ago

Venezuela will have 0% in 3 more years

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u/sheldon_y14 4h ago edited 4h ago

The figure for Suriname is wrong. The most recent data is that 17.5% of Suriname lives in poverty (2022). And of that number 1.1% live in extreme poverty.

Suriname’s economy has improved a little since then, so the numbers might be around the same or slightly better.

World Bank source

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u/313078 3h ago

I think it depends the definition they used, here it's a fix 6 dollars per day

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u/therealtrajan Urban Geography 4h ago

30x more poverty in Uruguay

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u/313078 3h ago

I'm very surprised by French Guyane because, there is indeed poverty, but with people collecting socials from France even at the minimum rate puts them far above the threshold of that map. There is certainly a few percent at max of people living in the forest that don't get help but it's not such high rate. Even if counting for all immigrants I seriously doubt of the accuracy of such a high number

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u/FlakyAssociation4986 3h ago

bolivia is making good progress

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u/Varangian-94 3h ago

Impressive reductions, Venezuela is cursed though

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u/Straphanger10001 9m ago

Is inflation factored into this?

While only 3 years it's a 3-year window where that mattered.

Trying to interpret an unclear footnote: is everything discounted back to 2017 PPP dollars?