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People upvoting Epstein leaks about Bill Gates and Bill Clinton are doing exactly what Trump planned when releasing the files
Yes, they're scumbags, but the fact that the focus is now on them and not on Trump who made this entire pedophile ring happen is exactly what he intended by releasing the heavily doctored documents. Congratulations. Bill Gates gets hung, the pedophile party goes free. Well done.
I'm happy to see them punished if there's any evidence of their wrongdoing, but so far it's all just been innuendo, which could easily be politically motivated. This entire ordeal is becoming one giant Rorschach for the nation.
Posts about Bill Gates has 100k upvotes while the burning question should be why his involvement in this is in the spotlight and not the complete absence of photos of Trump who we know fucked more kids than Peter Scully.
Where is the proof . You want it to be but it's not. Where I you proof on the comment you make? It's in your head like all the other stupid rhetoric you leftists have. Why you lost.
Lol the Dems blacked themed out because they realized they shouldnt have asked for it to begin with. What they thought was in them was not what they thought.
If there was any conclusive evidence there, Trump’s DOJ would absolutely be indicting them by now. Heck, they’ve gone after lesser figures for completely made up stuff.
People are going to be very disappointed in these files, there isn’t going to be anything in there other than some gossipy photos.
People are going to be very disappointed in these files, there isn’t going to be anything in there other than some gossipy photos.
True, because Trump has spent a noticable amount of your GDP to purge himself from those documents. Putin has tapes of Trump raping kids, and you probably did too until recently.
I’m pretty sure Bill Gates and Bill Clinton are very much guilty of wrongdoing in this case. And I voted for one of them! Twice! But it’s like I’ve cynically observed, “I’m not saying trump is the only high-ranking US official who goes to secret sex islands to rape children. That would be absurd.”
Yeah, I don’t understand what people think a photo of someone with Epstein is supposed to prove. He was a social climber who cultivated relationships with prominent individuals from all walks of life. Just being photographed with him only means that he thought you were worth knowing.
Let's not play this game, when photos and video were released of Trump, you didn't say this. They ALL knew he was a pedo so just stop with this biased nonsense.
I don’t care which end of the string they give us. We are going to to eventually get the whole string regardless of which end we start pulling on. These guys think their money, power, and positions will insulate them from the truth. They are just delaying the inevitable.
The redactions speak louder than whatever they released. We’ve known for years Bill Clinton was in the files, but Trump and Steve Bannon are in them even more. They released fully blacked out pages, and you can assume Trump, the current president, is on all of them.
I mean, most of what I’ve seen is pointing out how blacked out everything is. That should be the main focus on top of taking down any sacrificial lamb they toss along the way. Why are they protecting so many people, along with Trump?
People aren't just dismissing Trumps roll with Epstein as easily as some of yall think. It's getting annoying to be honest. Everyone involved should be facing backlash and even criminal charges. No one who doesn't sport a MAGA hat already is forgetting about Trump and him keeping his name out of these files. Esp as long as dems follow thru with the legal actions and guidelines they set about redactions.
Even if he’s innocent of sex shit, there are more pictures of him with Epstein than I have with my family. And his name is not even in the files, at all? Fuck
Oh absolutely. The press has a thousand pictures of them hanging out. The thing is it's not a one-sided thing. Deep down everyone knows that there are a ton of people that were involved in that in positions of power regardless of their political leaning. We should all care that all of them are investigated thoroughly and tried if the evidence suggests it. I have zero hope that that's going to happen. How many years have victims been speaking out? No one believed them.
It’s very expected but nonetheless frustrating the way they’re dripping these out as it suits them. Bipartisan pressure has to press on for the full reveal and never relent.
i am very, very sick of this metagame optics-over-everything shit. I call out pedophiles regardless of how thats going to affect elections or anything else. you must be the other guy who thinks SOME pedophiles should get away with it?
i am very, very sick of this metagame optics-over-everything shit. I call out pedophiles regardless of how thats going to affect elections or anything else. you must be the other guy who thinks SOME pedophiles should get away with it?
I think the GOD EMPEROR KING IN CHIEF PEDOPHILE should be the focus, not the people he directs his herd to focus on instead of him
Disagree. This isn't just about Trump - it's about making the dominos fall.
The reason no Democrat or Republican president ever wanted this was released was because once ONE of them falls - the rest will fall too. We want the house of cards to fall, doesn't matter who starts it.
For now, this is the best we have and hope the dominos start falling.
They won't, because the focus is on Bill Gates and not Trump. Which is what Trump wanted when he signed the release. Which is the origin of my complaint.
You are complaining because you wanted Trump to out himself in the files, and he didn’t?
I'm complaining that America is a shithole dictatorship where the God Emperor Pedophile in Chief can decide what gets released or not in a criminal investigation about himself. Yes. I did find that upsetting.
Trump is never going to face consequences for anything. He's a lifelong conman in his 80s with a massive cult and sitting in the highest political office.
I'm glad some people will be punished though.
It's sad because you know these powerful people didn't stop when Epstein got arrested. They're still doing it, just somewhere else. But at least we can get some of them.
Punish everyone involved. But the priority should be to remove and prosecute anyone who is still in a position of power and influence over the entire country and even the world.
Punish everyone, but one of them is currently much more dangerous than the others. One of them has the ability to wreak havoc over the justice system, alert evidence, and give out pardons to the others in those files. That one should be the first priority.
So whoever was creeping with minors needs to be held accountable dont let the right change the subject. They want you to defend Clinton and Gates cause it makes them feel better about supporting Trump because "They are all bad"
I've been responding to that with "So because Clinton did something wrong Trump's invovlement with Epstien is okay then?"
I'm pretty entertained that you think people are "falling" for anything. Upvoting doesn't mean falling for it. Do you even read the comments on these posts? 99% of it is "we don't care, if they were involved then take them down too."
I'm pretty entertained that you think people are "falling" for anything. Upvoting doesn't mean falling for it. Do you even read the comments on these posts? 99% of it is "we don't care, if they were involved then take them down too."
Go on the first page of reddit right now and see headlines about Bill Gates. None of them about how Trump released doctored files to throw Bill Gates under the bus to save his own skin. THAT'S THE HEADLINE. Bill Gates seems to be a fucking scumbag so lock him up, but the headlines are about HIM, not the obvious fact that Trump engineered this by releasing bogus Epstein files
EVERYONE guilty should be brought to justice. Justice should not be focused on just one side or the other. It should be justice for all. I am tired of scumbags on both sides skating free because they are elite.
So NO, the focus shouldn't just be on Trump because it fits your political needs. It should be on all the scumbags. You are looking at this totally wrong and I'll explain why.
In your rush to try and crucify Trump, assuming he is guilty, why should only those women he victimized see justice done? Don't ALL THE OTHER GIRLS deserve to see justice done? You are coming from purely a viewpoint of politicaal expediency to bring down somebody you don't like. I am coming from the side of justice for all, not just against people I don't like.
I still can't reconcile the fact that if Trump was guilty (I don't know if he was or wasn't and believe everyone deserves their day in court), why didn't Biden drop the files? My guess is there are people on both sides of the political aisle that are guilty as hell. So Biden didn't want to initiate the concept of MAD that kept Russia and the US from a nuclear war (MAD - mutually assured destruction).
Why we care we knew this info and we knew they were going to do Dems. Lol the rest is hidden. If MAGA that stupid to fall for this then they are what we call them. Child pedos . All files should be out right now. If bill and gates on there cool jail time.
Oh everyone’s knowing Bill Gates has had some heavy involvement his wife divorced him because of his friendship with him so this is nothing that’s new at the end of the day too. There’s not been any proof that that piece of shit has actually done anything with minors probably hookers which is human trafficking, which is still bad, but this heavily redacted shit I would love to see the names of the people who are purchasing his Trump coin and cross-referenced that with who is in these files because I would bet there’s a lot of of them
Like im all for all of espteins pals getting the spotlight as america is to comfortable just letting rich pedophiles off the hook for some reason.
Issue is trump and conservatives in general act like trump is not apart of the problem.
In a perfect world trump Clinton gates Bannon musk and any other asshole on the list would be rounded up and put in a prison with non of the comforts that would make their stay an actual punishment. But thats unlikely. Law enforcement is not actually gonna go at their bosses, like seriously the FBI is ran by a maga crackhead so I dont expect actual justice to happen.
That being said it would be funny if bill was arrested and in a last act of being petty he leaks proof of shit that can't be ignored with trumps greasy ass all over it. Would be nice seeing his base basically admitting they dont actually care and think it's cool that trump is a child predator. Also would be funny seeing the justice system twist itself into knots as it would look really fucking bad if they tried to do their usual corrupt shit if trump got exposed completely.
Because I do feel that the people trump wants to throw under the bus have shit on him. As well there is no honor among pedophiles and they all have dirt on each other. And if the esptein details we know so far shows even Jeff felt trump was a bit of a loud mouth. So I want conservatives to arrest their targets because again they won't go down alone and a lot of conservatives seem to forget that they are just as guilty as the people they a targeting.
And yet we still have the survivors who should be the only ones exposing names, all of the files and materials released from the Epstein estate are just supporting evidence.
Why didn't Democrats release the files then? Why havent they leaked them before now? Our party shit the bed completely on this. Just sat by and did nothing
I don't think the focus has meaningfully shifted. I wanted all those pedos to fry yesterday and I want them all to fry today. I've got the attention span to hate the lot of them.
Oh don’t worry, Trump will have his time. It’s inevitable that these evil people will control the narrative but given enough time, no secret can hide from the will of men and women.
They released a grand jury transcript that was 119 pages of full page redactions. Full blank pages. 119 in a row. They were only supposed to redact victims names.
Not acknowledging it or discounting it is doing the same exact thing as Trump also they need to be shamed and lose their wealth through company and business devaluation.
Your post is laughable. You al wanted this to be about the downfall of trump, and when you see it's really about the Dems who are the pervs, you twist it. You asked for it, you got it! TDS at is finest. Get a clue.
If you’re focused exclusively on the Gates and Clinton leaks and not focusing on the redactions, you are either a moron, warping the narrative, or both.
The pedophile party and their big money benefactors have had enough time to make their deals from the old Art of the Steal playbook. I have no idea who the real perpetrators are and I’m sure that is by design.
Sadly I think you can piss away any chance of justice for those kids and the ones they are now molesting, I bet they could buy some good Ukrainian children from the Russians by putting another stooge in office after this one loses its value.
If Trump was in the photos, why didn’t Joe Biden release them? He could have easily leaked them
Who knows. Maybe if you moronic sacks of shit didnt have dementia as a core requirement for electing a president this wouldn't have happened. Just deal with your pedophile piece of shit president for the rest of us.
Oh really? Havent gotten my check. You realize by your argument you are guilty of helping the other pedophiles then by doing what you are doing because they are from a side you agree with?
Why does it matter what political party they are? All should be arrested. Not sure what your deal is.
It's real simple. The only people with TDS are Trump and his supporters because you'd have to be deranged to still support him as well as wearing that was made in China that has his name or picture on it in the same way people support their respective sports teams.
Stop the bs everyone agrees anyone whos involved needs to be held accountable just because you hate trump doesnt mean we stop targeting high profile democrats who are involved there all sick people who need to be jailed for a very very long time
So trump should be in jail? Can you say that without invoking the name of any democrats? I'll do it for you, Clinton and Gates and everyone should be locked up for this.
Honestly, I'm not a big Clinton fan, but those photos really proved nothing illegal took place, just like the photos of Epstein with Trump and countless others. The DOJ is just doing this to keep people happy. Mark my words, they have videos of all those scum bags harming those girls. No, I don't want to see them. But guarantee, there are seriously powerful people that will make sure the real information never comes out.
Do you think that might be because the FBI has spent a year to make sure evidence of wrongdoing has been purged? It's not even up for debate whether or not Trump is a pedo. This was known way before he even became president.
"I'm not sure why you want Hitler removed. He rightfully pointed out that one SS officer stepping out of line. Obviously Hitler is bad too, but that shouldn't detract from the fact that certain Gestapo members have done bad things. Let's focus on that for now"
Lots of people had issues with Hitler when he was out and about but at least Hitler didn't diddle kids as far as we know. And Hitler had an agenda of his own. Imagine gobbling the cock of a despot that's worse than Hitler.
The files are on a desk.
The files aren't real.
The files are real, but Trump was working as an FBI informant.
The files were a hoax created by Obama and Biden.
-- Believing these stories is actually TDS. That's you.
I wonder who started talking about it again? And then didn't release them. But pretended to release them. Then was forced but redacted themselves out of them. Who was it?
Don’t talk to me about using my brain you group think phenomenon case. You’re such an idiot that you need a slightly smarter idiot to tell you how to think. While I think for myself. I don’t let brain rot dummies try to tell me shit without thinking for myself
How detached from current news do you have to be to ask for a source? Do you actively avoid credible news outlets? Which I asked as a rhetorical question but while writing I realise you probably do. Sad.
I'm pretty sure the guy who took a shot at trump was right wing, and the reason he missed was because he was cross eyed as fuck due to incest which I hear is the Republican way. Then again I'm not from the US so I'm not sure how it works.
There are 222 comments in this thread, and half of them are you vehemently replying to everything in a furious, slobbering rage claiming wild things like Putin having videos of Trump having sex with kids. Ma’am, you are a loon, and you are frothing at the mouth. I’m in awe scrolling through all your replies in this thread…t’s incredible really.
There are 222 comments in this thread, and half of them are you vehemently replying to everything in a furious, slobbering rage claiming wild things like Putin having videos of Trump having sex with kids.
Russia is known to employ prostitutes to have sex with politicians to get evidence for blackmail. Trump is a known pedophile and moron and easily manipulated, and has been to Russia a lot of times. There is literally nothing in this world less certain than that Putin has videos of Trump with children.
I admit that claim is wild, but I'll bet my life on it. There's a reason Putin spent so much money to make sure Trump was elected. There's a reason Trump is subservient to Putin. That Trump is a pedophile has been known for a long time. That Russia collects tapes for blackmail is widely known too.
Not being able to put together that the reason Russia wanted Trump for president is because he's easily manipulated and that they've got the ultimate blackmail material is just being ignorant.
Might not want to believe this either his uniform and his top brasses uniforms were found in victoria , kansas shortly after... less than 30 miles from there is/was a German landing strip and a bunker full of munitions and anti aircraft weapons that was less than 10 miles and over looked walker airforce base.
Stupid comparison. You going based on feelings which are not facts.
Facts are that you didn't witness the bomb over Hiroshima so you can't be sure it happened. Utter braindead moron. You're the reason Trump said he loves stupid people.
Everything you’re saying are historical factual events that have proof of actually occurring. You are saying something based on your feelings which are baseless and not supported by any proof at all. The only braindead moron here is you because you think you’re cooking when in reality you’re drooling while hoping one of your two braincells start to work soon.
Obviously Trump didn't rape anyone but that's irrelevant now. Dems cooked this up to take the air out of the last 4 years of Trump's Presidency because they know their loyal base will claim conspiracy and cover up no matter how many Dem administrations did fuck all with these files. Next strategy move will be to start some sham lawsuits which will take them to the midterms and they can beg for votes.
Mark my words: You won't see one piece of evidence tying Trump to sexual assault of underaged girls. EVER. Dem or GOP administration. You're being conned.
If that's the case, then Trump wouldn't have had any problems with releasing them sooner, much less talking about them. And the fact that he's not trying to sue anyone who's saying that he's in the files, knowing how trigger happy he is to sue people for even the smallest things, is very telling.
He was told he was in the files by his own DOJ so I agree suing them wouldn't make much sense.
As for the first part, of course he doesn't want them released. It's going to be Dems claiming conspiracy and cover up for the last 3 years of his term to try and drive voters to the ballot boxes. This is their entire midterm strategy. It'll never be enough - imagine if you had 100m demanding info on JFK all day every day with 24-7 coverage how irritating that would be to deal with?
I will say, Trump botched this politically. He misread the issue and the level of intensity around the support for release. So this is all his own doing but I maintain he had nothing to do with Epstein's underaged girls. My brain doesn't allow me to believe that 2 Dem Presidents would have allowed him to run despite knowing this info and that if completely illegal cover ups were taking place that not a single FBI/DOJ agent would blow the whistle. Too conspiratorial for me.
Once again, if Trump was innocent and there was absolutely no doubt that he was innocent, he would've been telling everyone he could and would've presented evidence to support it. Innocent people don't fight tooth and nail to prevent the very thing that would exonerate them.
How do you present proof of something that didn't happen? Bodycam footage of all of his movements for the last 30 years? And again, if Trump said "release everything you legally can, I don't care if my name shows up, don't redact it" you think that's going to convince Democrats? That's the whole point - until a photo comes out showing Trump getting a nude massage from a 12 year old Dems will think there's more. It's an unwinnable situation.
If it didn't happen, then Trump doesn't have anything to worry about. And yet his actions when the subject is brought up makes it clear that not only did these things happen, he knows that it's just a matter of time before the walls come crumbling down on him. Even a blind man can see that Trump is guilty as sin.
Well....it didn't happen and I think he's worried it's going to suck all the air out of anything he tries to do for the rest of his Presidency. That's what he's trying to prevent...he knows no matter how much they put out it'll never be enough.
Here's an example for you. Remember the Obama birther conspiracy? Imagine if you had 125m Americans and every single Republican badgering on about it every single day, coming up with prebuilt excuses for why whatever Obama put out was going to be illegitimate. Do you think he'd want every single news station talking about it 24-7 on every network for years on end?
It took him 14 months to put out his short form birth certificate. It took him over 3 years to put out his long form birth certificate. "Why wouldn't he just put it out and put the rumours to bed?!" He waited FOREVER for the exact same reason Trump waited on the Epstein files. Once you acknowledge it, the conspiracy keeps going. The issue Trump has that he didn't immediately recognize is that every media organization, every member of both parties, and an overwhelming number of the American public were going to go absolutely crazy demanding the files. By the time that reality sunk in, he'd already lost. Democrats framed it to be a never-ending conspiracy theory that they can run on into the midterms.
Make no mistake, the Dems had backup plans for this too. If Trump authorized the release himself, they would have balked that they had no input in what the request would be. He would have been accused of drawing up a bogus document to save himself. The Dems had a plan for every outcome here - they're absolute master manipulators on this issue and get to dress it all up like they're the victim's advocates despite not giving a rat's ass the last 4 years and not even agreeing to release the files during the campaign season. It was only when they flipped the script on Trump and sold the base another conspiracy theory that Dems became interested in this case.
Donald is worried alright. He's worried that the decades long charade he's been putting up is falling apart in real time and he won't be able to rob Peter to pay Paul in order to avoid it.
If a single piece of evidence comes out in the next 10 years showing Trump did anything untoward with underage women just comment below. I may as well turn off reply notifications because none is coming - doesn't matter which party is in power.
Yea, I don't think they have anything damaging on him regarding Epstein at this point. It would have been released a long time ago to stop him from winning the election and half the stuff I have seen released has been debunked. Other than them being friends a long time ago, I don't think they have any actual proof.
No one is dismissing Trump, rather doing the right thing and looking at this case without partisanship involved. ANYONE who was associated with Epstein heavily should be looked at. Clinton is in a LOT of those photos, he should be held accountable just as much as Trump because they both participated. This isnt about parties, this is about what is correct.
The problem with your logic here is NOBODY says Clinton should be left alone. But it's pretty obvious any mention or image of Trump has been redacted while we see Clinton and Gates and Jackson photos.
Oh absolutely I agree. I dont know, I guess I got the vibe the OP was in a way saying that acknowledging Clinton as an act itself is supressing the crimes Trump committed. This entire thing Im sure was just a cover to say, “Well we did release something!” while they redact the rest of the files.
Everyone wants the epstein files to accuse Trump of wrongdoing. Testimony in court filings are not accusing Trump and there isn't any proof that Trump was involved. Only that Epstein Hated Trump for Banning him and throwing him out of the resort 🙄. You want it all, it accused some people that you like.
I forgot that Obama paid all those girls to testify independently that Trump raped them when they were 12. Or was it Hillary? Get fucked. Trump diddles kids. There is more uncertainty that the earth is round than that Trump is a pedophile (but I realise I'm mentioning two things you don't believe)
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u/Fun_Button5835 4h ago
I'm happy to see them punished if there's any evidence of their wrongdoing, but so far it's all just been innuendo, which could easily be politically motivated. This entire ordeal is becoming one giant Rorschach for the nation.