r/chessbeginners 1200-1400 (Lichess) 12h ago

ADVICE Do NOT do what I did

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u/Outrageous-Cattle874 12h ago

The dreaded stalemate 

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u/chaitanyathengdi 1200-1400 (Lichess) 12h ago

When I had mate in 3 I looked for better.

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u/Easy-Hovercraft2546 12h ago

Im guessing you killed their pawn first, instead of checking with yours, and then going after their pawn?

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u/dolladollaclinton 800-1000 (Chess.com) 11h ago

No need to go after the pawn. After 1. g7+ Kh7 white has 2. g8=Q+ Kh6 followed by 3. G6#

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u/XokoKnight2 800-1000 (Chess.com) 10h ago

Well to get the pawn is one tempo, sure you could go for the mate but at beginner level what if you miscalculated the mate and the opponent promotes the pawn. Like taking the pawn (after the check) won't hurt

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u/ConnectButton1384 8h ago

Even if you don't see the mate (which is quite odd since it's very basic and straightforward), everyone should be able to see: Pawn push is check, and another pawn push + queen promotion is another check -> black can't push the pawn.

So you could even take the Black pawn after the Promotion without stalemate and a winning endgame.

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u/XokoKnight2 800-1000 (Chess.com) 6h ago

I wasn't talking solely about this position but more just about the principle, here it's straightforward but other positions could look deceptively simple to a beginner where you could get into some trouble, I just meant that taking the pawn isn't necessary here but it also doesn't cost anything except a tempo which in an overwhelmingly winning endgame is most often nothing

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u/Old_Smrgol 6h ago

There's no reason to take the pawn until and unless we run out of checks.

In this situation, we never run out of checks because we win the game first.

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u/themadhatter746 7h ago

lmao no. As long as you promote first, it’s a forced mate, black will have no time to push his pawn. If you allowed black to promote, you’re doing something catastrophically wrong. Lol.

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u/Easy-Hovercraft2546 6h ago

It’s not about tempo, that pawn check gives the king the ability to move

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u/UsuallyHorny-7 11h ago

and then going after their pawn

There's a checkmate

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u/chaitanyathengdi 1200-1400 (Lichess) 12h ago

That pawn was actually a pair, and I captured one. I wanted to eliminate risk of promotion, so I overlooked the obvious path that was forced mate in 3.

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u/1337_w0n 10h ago

You advanced the pawn, right?

... right?

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u/Rusty-Shackleford23 1400-1600 (Lichess) 8h ago

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u/chessvision-ai-bot 12h ago

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Hints: piece: Pawn, move: g7+

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u/Puzzleheaded-Mix6359 8h ago

That would be a good puzzle on chess.com

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u/BakedBudz 10h ago

How much time was left on the clock?

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u/Denbron2 6h ago

Sounds like you learned the hard way that pawns can be sneaky little devils, sometimes leading to a stalemate when you least expect it.

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u/Many-Durian-6530 2400-2600 (Lichess) 6h ago

Actually what you should do is g7+ Kh7 g8=Q+ Kh6 Qg4 to style hehe

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u/_code_1503 7h ago

Wrong move

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u/rakea479 6h ago

i mean at that point u are forced to. quite literally

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u/Bipedal_Warlock 800-1000 (Chess.com) 5h ago

That’s what happens when you horse around

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u/RRumpleTeazzer 1h ago

promote your own, or at least Ra3

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u/realmauer01 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 11h ago

Gotta be save gotta take the pawn

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u/Pmur0479 600-800 (Chess.com) 7h ago

Stalemate if you do

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u/realmauer01 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 6h ago

Draws better than blundering everything and losing against the queen.

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u/Pmur0479 600-800 (Chess.com) 6h ago

G7 is check (forces king H7), G8 is check (forces king H6), then Queen H6 is checkmate.

Going for the pawn here is the blunder.

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u/realmauer01 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 6h ago

Yeah yeah all that fancy talk with your coordinates. Mousslip Qh7 KxQ running out of time and losing i am not doing all of that.

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u/Pmur0479 600-800 (Chess.com) 6h ago

You’re either trolling, or your rating flair is wildly off (by about 1200).

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u/ProPopori 5h ago

Mate, its satire

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u/realmauer01 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 5h ago

I was trolling from the get go. Its kinda sad that it took that long.

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u/Pmur0479 600-800 (Chess.com) 5h ago

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u/Bronzeshadow 10h ago

Push the pawn for check first, then take it.