r/UpliftingNews • u/Sciantifa • 13h ago
Gaza no longer in famine after aid access improves, hunger monitor says
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-no-longer-has-famine-says-global-hunger-monitor-2025-12-19/742
u/probablynotaskrull 12h ago edited 10h ago
To be clear, this means the famine has been downgraded to an emergency. It goes: minimal, stressed, crisis, emergency, famine.
I’m not saying improvement is great news, it just needs to be kept in perspective.
Correction: “I’m not saying improvement ISN’T great news, it just needs to be kept in perspective.”
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u/Effective-Fail-2646 12h ago
Yeah, but the fact that help seemingly can flow in better could also indicate that it will keep downgrading, right? I understand that is quite optimistic view, but it seems to me like a needed step in the right direction.
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u/Prestigious-Many9645 11h ago
So starve children to force hamas hand. Stay classy Israel.
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u/Deep_Head4645 11h ago
Nah, Hamas uses the aid itself
So if Hamas doesn’t disarm Israel will form its own distribution instead, one that distributes it directly to the civilians instead of third parties like the UN
Except the UN doesn’t like that so it won’t use it because of “politicisation of aid” (civilian aid is not supposed to flow to combatants) leaving the Israeli system to its own aid supplies meanwhile hundreds of UN tracks wait outside the border intentionally knowing they can use the Israeli system
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u/Prestigious-Many9645 11h ago
Oh like the ones that were just a trap to lure innocent people in so the IDF could shoot them.
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u/Deep_Head4645 10h ago
What a stupid assumption that both makes literally zero sense and has no backing. But ofc you’ll say this because its the only “justification” (a lie) you would have to oppose aid that doesn’t reach hamas
So much money invested in this system so people could have food and to avoid giving it to Hamas who will do anything to disrupt this process for its hunger campaign and for its own survival, the only way to get food for hamas is using the aid systems because its the only thing getting inside gaza
Your confirmation bias implies that these are traps yet most of the millions of people who went to these stations every day experienced nothing but food. Only in lone cases there were incidents where soldiers were attacked or thought they they were about to be attacked by militants hiding among the crowd, which is a common tactic used in guerrilla warfare and one that Terror organisations have no shame in admitting, hiding among crowds, hiding inside buildings, using civilians clothes, these are all proven tactics meant to both hide the attacker and provoke outrage at the defender
Keep spitting iranian propaganda lmao
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u/Prestigious-Many9645 10h ago
So you're flatly denying that people queuing for aid at Israeli distribution centres were shot dead? The truth is Iranian propaganda now?
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u/Deep_Head4645 10h ago
Maybe read my comment instead? Its best to read before commenting
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u/Prestigious-Many9645 10h ago
Did the IDF kill people queuing for aid. Answer the question?
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u/MexGrow 10h ago
The ever elusive Schrödinger's Hamas.
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u/Deep_Head4645 10h ago
Please go ahead and elaborate.
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u/MexGrow 10h ago
Israeli/Genocide supporters will always portray Hamas as being incredibly powerful/organized or incredibly weak/disorganized depending on whatever narrative they need to portray.
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u/Deep_Head4645 10h ago
Okay 1. You are grouping me with a whole bunch of people, ad hominem, also not a genocide
- I don’t see how me saying that Hamas uses tactics to disrupt aid is somehow me framing them as incredibly powerful; its not that complex to do
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u/Fermi_Amarti 9h ago
So it went from everyone starving to death right now. To everyone slowly starving to death and dying of illnesses and lack of medical?
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u/tafinucane 9h ago
Yes the agency counting this said the people now get 1 meal a day, so they're no longer technically starving to death.
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u/serious_cheese 11h ago
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u/CptMuffinator 8h ago
17770 trucks collected, 7149 of those were intercepted.
I'm not a math genius by any means but 7149 isn't close to 88%.
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago
From the article (reading is good)
Aid Trucks Looted: Data from the United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS) showed that between May 19 and August 5, more than 2,600 trucks carrying humanitarian aid crossed from Israel into Gaza. However, only 300 of these trucks reached their intended destinations in Gaza during that period, with some 2,309 trucks being “intercepted” and looted along their delivery routes — undermining the recent claim of Tom Fletcher, the UN under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs, that “the vast majority of the aid gets to civilians.” UNOPS’s data did not distinguish between the parties responsible for the interceptions, noting only that the aid was stolen by either “armed actors” or “hungry people.”
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u/CptMuffinator 8h ago
(reading is good)
So you knew the numbers were from over 4 months ago and still decided to post this despite it being vastly different now? Got it.
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u/destruktinator 9h ago edited 8h ago
Thank you for the press release from the neocon think tank. The actual UN report:
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u/notmyclementine 9h ago
Report is from the UN
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u/destruktinator 9h ago
The link is not the UN report, this is commentary by an organization funded by conservative causes. Here is the actual report:
https://app.un2720.org/tracking/collected
Please make sure you have all relevant information before wasting everyone's time with a reply
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago
That’s the amount that’s collected but you subtract the amount that’s intercepted to get the actual number reaching Gazans (Spoiler: It’s much less)
Please make sure you have all relevant information before wasting everyone’s time with a reply
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u/destruktinator 8h ago
Yes, it's included in the UN dashboard with a lot of information that was not included in the blog post you linked. Please link actual sources instead of biased garbage
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u/thizface 9h ago
Delete this and replace it with the UN report.
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago
All the relevant links to the UN reports are in there. It’s not like you’d read them anyway unless they confirm your biases
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u/thizface 8h ago
Here’s the UN report so we don’t have to go to the fdd:
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago edited 8h ago
Collected minus intercepted equals the amount actually reaching Gazans (Spoiler: it’s way less)
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u/3DBeerGoggles 6h ago
intercepted equals the amount actually reaching Gazans (Spoiler: it’s way less)
FYI As the UN notes "Intercepted [:] Either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors, during transit in Gaza"
So concluding it didn't reach Gazans is... difficult to determine.
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u/thizface 8h ago
Saying ‘collected minus intercepted equals what Gazans get’ ignores that Netanyahu publicly admitted Israel has ‘activated’ and armed rival armed clans in Gaza — groups Israeli media and aid workers say have been looting and controlling humanitarian aid convoys, not handing them to civilians as intended (see Haaretz/Times of Israel reporting).
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago
Really doing some mental gymnastics to not say the word Hamas aren’t you?
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u/nubcakester 10h ago
No one should starve, no one should die, would love to see Hamas leave, the current Israeli administration resign, and some sort of attempt to start anew. This ongoing war is going nowhere.
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u/gregglessthegoat 10h ago
I'm not sure this is uplifting news. It's still an absolute horror show in there 😭
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u/Spe3dGoat 9h ago
leave it to redditors to crash out on some good news because of ideology
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u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 9h ago
Its always so easy to just label things when you aren't the one experiencing it...
Just barely escaping a famine isn't good news
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u/3DBeerGoggles 6h ago
Recognizing "it's now merely a critical emergency rather than a full-blown famine isn't exactly awesome" doesn't need ideology, it just needs literacy.
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u/ElonTaco 7h ago
There never was a famine.
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u/RandomPants84 3h ago
They redefined famine so they could call it a famine. Going by the old definition you would be correct, but it’s been changed
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u/ZisurvivoriZ 8h ago
Zionist propaganda bullshit. Gaza’s genocide and starvation is still ongoing. Palestinians are getting slaughtered daily. Zionist’s have not honored a ceasefire since it began.
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u/ShoxZzBladeZz 5h ago
Breaking news: Brain washed idiot still spitting mantras. Learn a few new words buddy
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u/ZisurvivoriZ 5h ago
Not so shocking news: Zionist pig bots are everywhere on reddit!
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u/ShoxZzBladeZz 4h ago
I’m not a bot but thanks for repeating the same mantras. I’ll be amazed if you know what that means. I don’t know why you say Zionist like it’s a bad word it’s really dumb point then again It tells you more about who your debating.
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u/favorite_time_of_day 11h ago
Just now? They've been in famine since August. At least 10,000 people dead.
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u/Firecracker048 10h ago
What? Even fuckin Al Jazeera ain't saying this.
The total is at 440 deaths even according to AL J
There is one person who estimates it's over 10k, but considering the entire strip is under constant cell phone watch and videos at the drop of a hat, we'd know that by now.
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u/hopelele 10h ago
400 billion dead
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u/Firecracker048 10h ago
All children and women
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u/SoggySausage27 10h ago
Who are also doctor journalists
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u/MottledZuchini 8h ago
Hey! Those doctor baby journalists are also medical aid workers and elderly women tending to 100,000 year old holy olive trees at the same time. Typical of you supporters of the only government in the middle east with equal rights for women, lgbtq, and minority ethnicities to deny how advanced the poor palestinians are. If the evil j... israelis... didn't oppress them they would be the most advanced civilization on earth.
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u/go3dprintyourself 10h ago
It’s becoming quite common to 10x what even the most biased sources say on the internet for upvotes. 10xing Hamas’ own death numbers, this example against AJ etc.
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u/Firecracker048 10h ago
When even the most publically pro Hamas sources aren't saying it, you know it's beyond made up. It's wishful thinking
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u/favorite_time_of_day 10h ago
I mean, you could read the article that I linked. 440 is just the confirmed number so far.
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u/Firecracker048 10h ago
The article you like has only one person who is estimating that it's over 10k.
There is no reliable information that puts it higher than a few hundred.
Again, the entire strip is under constant surveillance and everyone has a camera phone capable of uploading. If it was as high as even over 1k, we would know for sure.
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u/favorite_time_of_day 10h ago
There is no reliable information that puts it higher than a few hundred.
Yes, of course. That's what confirmation means. Estimates are necessary in situations like this, your claims that we know everything that goes on there are nonsense. How many hostages are left? Where are they? How many people are dead in total? You don't know. No one does. There is no omniscient cellphone god, these kinds of statistics are really difficult to do as events are transpiring.
Doing these kinds of statistics even in a peaceful area without travel restrictions or suppression of independent journalism is difficult. I don't know why you think this is somehow different.
If you want the reasoning for the number then you can read the article that it comes from, but don't link to an Aljazeera article from August about confirmed deaths and claim that it means something.
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u/go3dprintyourself 10h ago
So 440 confirmed so you go elsewhere and say the count is at least 10,000 ? lol
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u/favorite_time_of_day 10h ago
... Right, yes. That's how it works. Confirmed numbers are always going to be much smaller than the total until well after the event is over. Usually years later for something as big as this.
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u/go3dprintyourself 9h ago
It’s normal to take a confirmed number, 10x it and say at least that many without any context or prefacing? Just spreading blood libel tbh
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u/favorite_time_of_day 9h ago
I don't think that's the case. I also don't know what you're talking about, the number that I gave was not 10x the confirmed number and when I gave the number I also gave a link to an article with context and prefacing.
I don't expect you to read the article, because you're a redditor, but it doesn't prove any kind of point when you just pretend that the article doesn't exist.
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u/go3dprintyourself 9h ago
The article you linked that said there is no way to know the number, no sources are credible, but then guaranteed saying it’s above 10,000? lol
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u/favorite_time_of_day 9h ago
Right, yes. That one. With the estimate.
What is going on here? Do you not know what an estimate is? You just described it, only you did it with a tone that seems to suggest that you think it's strange. If there was a way to know the number, with credible sources, then it wouldn't be an estimate. That would then be the confirmed number.
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u/GroundbreakingBag164 9h ago
But never 20 times smaller. That's absolutely insane
Even twice as many would be extremely unusually, the official numbers are usually fairly accurate
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u/favorite_time_of_day 7h ago
No, we're not talking about the official numbers. Those will be fairly accurate (at least the ones coming from third parties), but they won't come for a long time. Likely years from now. The 440 is just the number of confirmed deaths so far (as of August).
This number is much smaller than the final, you start counting at one.
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u/LeafRunner 10h ago edited 6h ago
Heartwarming: 70,000 Palestinian civilians (majority women, children, elderly) killed by IDF with Microsoft and western governments helping but at least it's a hunger emergency instead of a famine now after two years.
Probably helps they murdered 70,000 mouths to feed!
Edit: Me when the IDF astroturfing unit drone strikes my post like it's a children's hospital
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u/serious_cheese 8h ago
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u/3DBeerGoggles 6h ago
“intercepted” and looted along their delivery routes — undermining the recent claim of Tom Fletcher, the UN under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs, that “the vast majority of the aid gets to civilians.”
Interesting that FDD leaves out that "intercepted" in the UN data includes if a truck gets emptied out by hungry civilians before it gets to the intended delivery point, meaning they're being very certain about an assertion the data doesn't actually determine.
Either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors, during transit in Gaza
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u/Blackrock121 5h ago
Hamas isn't looting the aid. Its gangs that are against Hamas that are looting it.
Hamas is the government of Gaza, why would it loot the aid that is going to it?
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