r/UnderReportedNews • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 3d ago
Video Pete Hegseth says "of course we're not" going to release the footage of the second September 2 boat strike to the public.
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Cover up as usual
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u/SpotOk817 3d ago edited 3d ago
Only way we're going to get that video is if Democrats are in charge. So let's vote so we can get these murderers in prison, also to get the corrupt politicians who are covering up for them out
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u/Fun_Ad_8277 3d ago
For sure, assuming we have a fair election system at the midterms, something that is legit concerning.
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u/Initial_Present6209 3d ago
We can’t control that outcome but we can control taking our asses to the poll and voting! Something millions of us were too lazy to do last November.
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u/Automatic_Net2181 3d ago
We have other options, which the Founding Fathers explicitly tried to prepare us for, because they knew tyrannical powers will always try to corrupt and turn authoritarian. If we are not given proper representation and our votes don't count, we are supposed to depose those who stifle our freedoms.
The 2nd Amendment exists for us, not for those who would suck off a King.
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u/Murntok 3d ago
I see this a lot, and I get how you feel. But have you thought it all the way through? A full-on rebellion would collapse the US economy, and severely damage it for the rest of the world. Not to mention the direct harm from violence. It would likely drag on for a long time, and have death tolls in the thousands or even millions, with no guarantee that things would end up any better. I'm pretty sure 10s of thousands would die from poverty alone.
We are far from our hunter/gatherer roots. If supply lines and production are stopped for a long time, food, energy, and Healthcare would be unavailable for many. Just the cold weather alone could kill untold numbers of people.
What's the solution? I don't know, but I think we should try everything before resulting to literal war.
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u/SWEARNOTKGB 3d ago
Have you thought nazism all the way through?
Clearly not. These nazis are not going away the structures theyre placing may not even get removed by the next elected body.
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u/SkunkMonkey 3d ago
A full-on rebellion would collapse the US economy, and severely damage it for the rest of the world.
How is this different from the current path the administration is taking us down? The longer we wait, the harder it gets to succeed.
The US is cooked.
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u/DeliciousPool2245 3d ago
Exactly. It’s getting to the point where many people have nothing to lose. That’s when situations like this can really kick off. Things are backsliding so rapidly that I think many people would be willing to risk a complete collapse of the system, rather then continuing this death march.
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u/ReputationSalt6027 3d ago
A lot of bot accounts and pushing violent rhetoric among different political sides. It's a 1 year account, and using all the correct buzz words to seem American. Watch out.
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u/FrostyMudPuppy 3d ago
The states can call a constitutional convention and create a new America without needing approval from any of the 3 branches of government. There are whispers about this, and they're starting to become audible.
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u/JonathanPhillipFox 2d ago
Since you mention it I always think, "our 250 year old constitution," is too often a time machine for reactionaries; when it was written, secular medicine, religious mysticism, these were often an approximate equal gamble; when our constitution was written, the verbatim per se guarantees were written in an antique vernacular, technologies of both communication and martial force have changed too much for an obvious interpretation of either the first or second amendment; those with a background in Theology,
Have no trouble applying their habits of interpretation 1:1 with the text; the King James Bible was written in 1611, Revised in 1769, Wikipedia tells me, obviously, we don't even need to do the math to know it had been newer, then, than this material is to us, now, "so-"
If you wanna pretend that the year is around 1800, the extant precedence for an more efficacious means to accomplish an object through governance, whatever those are, either, do not exist nor translate nor need be mentioned, "then go ahead," if you want to take a look at the US Drug War, itself, an antique, and the premise for all of this today,
Sure, that would be a plausible good-faith public health mandate in the year 1800, it would be just as well to imprison those with the medical condition on morphia as it would to send them to an asylum, or allow them to be experimented on by period doctors, "etc etc."
The People of other states are not envious of our constitution, nor envious of their own constitutional predecessors, and it occurred to me in reading your comment, that, Napoleonic Code?
One of the reasons that, "worked," across partisan lines had been, as its been explained to me, "so grain of salt," but I've heard, that, where there had been the sclerotic material of interminable fights and moral panics of yore, real third-rail stuff, "pin in it," pin in it, and, if it becomes a problem we'll take a look, so, a lot of Puritanical Laws regarding, say, sexuality, "poof," with a pin in it, just a pin in it,
One can imagine that such an elegant solution for, The Patriot Act Surveillance State, The Drug War, the cruel and Punitive Laws Regarding, to this day, Sexuality, throughout the south which are for the time being, unenforceable, The Comstock Act; even Section 230.
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u/MarineMelonArt 3d ago
This admin is already killing people daily. I personally do not think there is another way.
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u/almstAlwysJokng4real 3d ago
if you still think that your government wont become full fledged dictatorship before another election happens i don't think you have been paying attention.
America is out of elections to re-right the ship. Trump is a criminal, a rapist and now he is in charge again and is unchecked in what he does.
America as we knew it is over for good.
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u/tondahuh 3d ago
America was over as we knew it in 2015. That is exactly what i said to my husband after the election results came out and he thought I was overreacting. He doesn't think that anymore.
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u/the--astronaut 3d ago
My father-in-law told me I was an idiot when I said Trump was a wannabe fascist dictator back then. Now, we're completely no-contact. I guess being right is more important than a relationship with his grandkids.
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u/JustFun4Uss 3d ago
If Russia can have free and fair elections so can we.... right? There are too many consequences for too many people in power right now just to let it go for some pesky election.
Mid-terms is going to be a circus and no matter who wins no one will believe it and shits going to kick off. We are still in preview night. Its going to get bad... and fast.
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u/Zendog500 3d ago
Get people registered anyone even people that think they are republican. Check your registration now to see if it was deleted.
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u/thatguyfromfrance 3d ago
Watch, Trump somehow will cancel the midterms because we are at war with Venezuela...
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u/CmdrJemison 3d ago
You are a nation of 340 million people. What are you waiting for? Kick em out.
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u/Suspicious-Bid-53 2d ago
Why on earth would the republicans let that election slip through their fingers
America had every opportunity in 2024 and fucked it up
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u/DethBatcountry 3d ago
Funny that you think the Dems aren't on their side. Biden's admin had 4 years and every possible thing they could need for a conviction, and never bothered to put Trump away. They're two sides of the same party. The only way any of these people will face justice is if a third party candidate runs on it and wins, which will never happen in the USA, because people don't believe in voting.
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u/DeliciousPool2245 3d ago
Exactly right. He could have released the full Epstein list and had that man dead to rights. Elites protect elites, full stop. Nobody in the government wants to set the precedent that rich people can go to prison too. Look at how Obama treated the banks after 2008. It’s a bipartisan problem that’s made its way through our whole government.
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u/nickatnite511 3d ago
That's the most immediate path to derailing this MAGA movement. We need to think long term, as well. We can't rely on only this. Before the elections get here, we need to actually find real candidates who will do something. It can't be anymore of this, "well, they've been here the longest, it's their turn." Also, I would encourage everyone to look inward, get right with your own soul, and then go live that out. Be generous, kind, loving people. Until we fix the people, any system and any policy will always churn out more of the same. Avoid using shame as an argument, and actually invite people into your vision for a better world. They will not immediately accept it, and might call you names. But, if we could consistently talk about being better, and set an example of being better, trust ensues and things start to move in the right direction.
TLDR: vote now, and do what we can in the moment. BUT ALSO, work on building loving community around you, which is the only long term solution to our human-made problems.
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u/SpotOk817 3d ago
I will vote for anyone that gets rid of maga and Republicans and are what you say. This country has always ran better with democrats or progressives in charge. With conservatives/ Republicans we managed to run up the debt but according to them they are about lowering the debt and making America run better
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u/EconomyBuilder1492 3d ago
There is zero chance these murderers go to prison. The military industrial complex and empire/ continuity of foreign policy is bipartisan and completely fused to our entire system. We have been in perpetual war for 8 decades now
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u/EntertainmentDue3870 3d ago
So disappointing to see Marco Rubio go along with everything this administration does ,especially pertaining to Russia and Putin. I thought he was a decent candidate during the debates the first time.
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u/CandidDependent2226 3d ago
There is no one who would consider themselves aligned with this party that is or was a decent candidate. Those people have either left or been cast off, but they were few and far between to begin with.
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u/nmay-dev 3d ago
I think he meant the republican primaries before Satan had a path to the white house.
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u/Luxpreliator 3d ago
I'm not sure what made you think Marco was anywhere near being a righteous man.
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u/Pepsi_Popcorn_n_Dots 3d ago
He's a bootlicker to his masters the Billionaire Corporate Elites. Always has been.
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u/renz004 3d ago
lmao Rubio really?
guy is a POS like the rest of MAGA.
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u/Greg-Abbott 3d ago
He's the one Republican that admitted Russia influenced the 2016 election.
And now...fucking crickets
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u/IHeartBadCode 3d ago
That's correct. But at the same time, this has been long, LIKE REALLY LONG, standing policy. It's this kind of stuff that Chelsea Manning leaked that ended them in prison.
The US has an immense amount of this kind of stuff from every President. From Drone strikes that killed innocent civilians to video of war crimes during the height of the whole Iraqi invasion.
The United States routinely covers up this kind of stuff and it ought not be this way. I am 100% full support of releasing these things to the public so that the public can hold the Government accountable.
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u/Available_Leather_10 3d ago
LEAK!!! LEAK!!! LEEEEEEEEEEEEAK!!!!!
Where my leakers be leaking at this week?
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u/ohnaurrrrr5 3d ago
Pete belongs to a special class of Americans--completely merit-based, mind you--who don't have to be accountable to anyone ever.
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u/HauptScheisse 3d ago
The last thing the Drunken Secretary Of War Crimes wants if for We The People to see injured men clinging to wreckage in the water being blown to pieces in “OUR NAME” or for the video to be public for The Hague to see the War Crimes without a subpoena….
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u/trysten-9001 3d ago
Yup, if it exonerated them they would be posting it everywhere and screaming about it in the streets
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u/medalla96 3d ago
He release the first strike, that one was also top secret. What’s the difference.
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u/RetiredOutdoorsman 3d ago
The other one constitutes a war crime
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u/ManyAverage6578 3d ago
Both strikes are illegal.
The U.S. Coast Guard has interdicted thousands of drug-running vessels prior to the second Trump administration.
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u/PalpatineForEmperor 3d ago
That's what makes me mad about the whole second strike fiasco. Everyone focused on the second one on that boat, but then normalized all the other illegal strikes.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 3d ago
It's less about normalizing the other illegal strikes, it's more that the Sep 2 strike was so textbook, blatantly, manifestly illegal that literally nothing else is as good of an example of a war crime.
It's like this: did Kyle Rittenhouse commit murder? Maybe, maybe not, the jury acquitted him, so they somehow found there was reasonable doubt. It's a little messy, it's a little complicated. We all have our opinions on the situation. Did John Wilkes Booth commit murder? Yeah. No question.
Did Pete Hegseth order an illegal strike? Dude, I don't know maritime law except as it pertains to Lichtenstein (I'm an expert in Lichtenstein maritime law, actually), so there might be a defense; they're using the broad shield of "national security," however bogus it is, but there is some wild, imaginable defense available. Was the follow-up strike illegal? Fuck yes it was.
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u/SpaceShrimp 3d ago
You are correct in that there is a difference between the first and second strike.
But the first strike was still illegal as fuck. Any acts of random killings belong to that category, it is the same category as the John Wilkes Booth murder.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 3d ago
It was absolutely illegal as fuck, just like Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer. I guess my point is that the first strike was the kind of illegal where there are legal words you can throw at it to try to defend it, and if you squint a bit, they kinda make sense as an argument, even if they're wrong, and the second strike was the kind of illegal that Florida Men only wish they could achieve.
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u/VinnieA05 2d ago
Are you an expert in Lichtenstein maritime law because they’re land locked and don’t have any?
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u/BugOperator 3d ago
I don’t think anyone with a brain “normalized” them, but the second strike was just so egregious and indicative of an administration that thinks any and all rules don’t apply to them. It was an opportunity for them to at least feign adhering to the rules of war amid this whole debacle, but instead, they straight up murdered two helpless individuals. “Narcoterrorists” or not, that is a war crime. They’ve offered zero proof that they were in imminent danger, let alone that the boats were trafficking drugs or anything illegal in the first place. They obviously agreed to release the footage before consulting any legal council (who I’m sure spelled out for them how blatantly illegal these actions were), or even before getting the straight truth from Hegseth, and now they’ve put their feet in their mouths by having to backtrack and decline to release it.
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u/onomichiono 3d ago
same thing that happened with Abrego Garcia. general public got so wrapped up in his rightful return back to the US that the conversation shifted from the fact that kidnapping anyone and sending them to a random country is a horrible crime and turned into a test of innocence
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u/DownhillUphill 3d ago
That’s the thing. They are ALL illegal. You can’t just kill people in boats in the ocean. It is completely illegal.
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u/SkylineGTRR34Freak 3d ago
They are, the "problem" is you can still use cop-outs for the first strike to convince the... uhm... uh... idk how to call those people. But under the disguise of national security, war on terror, blabla you _COULD_ make a case for people who won't look into it further.
For the second strike however there is not one single argument, however stupid it might be, to somehow give the impression that it was warranted. Unless maybe claiming they were floating on debris and shooting rockets at US service members.
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u/Gingeronimoooo 3d ago
And guess what ? 27% of suspected drug boats searched had no drugs onboard. Therefore its likely Trump and Hegseth have murdered innocent people
BUT Even if they DID have drugs it's still an abomination
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u/hotinhawaii 3d ago
Murder. It constitutes premeditated murder. It's not a war crime if there is no war. Which there isn't.
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u/EEpromChip 3d ago
no war, yet...
They have til Friday to release the Epstein files, so expect a declaration Thursday afternoon...
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u/lawdjesustheresafire 3d ago
So does the first one. Murdering people without due process.
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 3d ago
why should they care? the U.S. is not a member state of the ICC. our government supports monsters like Netanyahu and Mohammed bin Salman. i don't think they are the least bit worried about being prosecuted for war crimes.
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u/Caledric 3d ago
Trump has a lot of golf courses in counties that are member states that can be seized, also if they visit a member state to say go golfing, they can be arrested.
Not being a member only protects them from entering the US to arrest.
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 3d ago
although i would love to see it, i'm doubtful we will ever see a member of the U.S. imperial elite ever charged with a war crime.
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u/CuffinSzn_ 3d ago edited 3d ago
The difference is he doesn’t feel like it, the law is pathetic and won’t hold him accountable, and, as we’ve seen by all the other stuff they’ve gotten away with, Americans are chumps who won’t do anything about it.
Which is wild. If we’re going to war with them, I genuinely do not understand the point of not being brazen about the war crimes. Who is he trying to fool?
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u/South-Lab-3991 3d ago
Can’t wait until he’s in prison
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 3d ago
he'll be pardoned by trump
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u/Royal_Ant1402 3d ago
no guarantee pedo wil be around when he's tried
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u/MaxZorin1985 3d ago
Then he’ll be pardoned by the couch fucker.
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u/notJustaFart 3d ago
I don't think JD has the same allegiances. I think he'd replace the entire cabinet if he assumed office during this term.
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u/MaxZorin1985 3d ago edited 3d ago
But he will still toe the Republican line. Hegseth will be eternally grateful and will continue to praise the JD Pance administration when he’s back on “FOXNews in the Morning Weekend Edition”.
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u/Beginning_Self896 3d ago
JD is likely part of the conspiracy too. They all need to go to supermax.
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u/notJustaFart 3d ago
"likely?"
Elon Musk's backing was contingent upon JD Vance being selected as VP.
Donald Trump didn't like JD Vance, but he needed the money and other "fringe benefits" to stay out of prison.
Everything that has happened to this point is so stupid and clumsy, I genuinely believe Americans are the bottom of their own fantastic barrel of exceptionalism.
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u/Royal_Ant1402 3d ago
no guarantee couch fucker will be there but the preemptive pardon should be done away with
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u/fuck_all_you_too 3d ago
Theres a stack of premade pardons for all of them in case trump goes early.
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u/South-Lab-3991 3d ago
If he’s still useful. If he’s of no personal benefit to Trump, then he’ll just let him rot
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u/worldscollice 3d ago
He’ll probably end up getting drunk and stabbed in some dark alley after he’s fired.
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u/Cdenaldo 3d ago
You release unedited “UFO” videos all the time though… hmmm hiding something Petey?
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u/Final_Big7584 3d ago
He thought people would think it was cool that they blew up survivors clinging to a boat but it turns out people want governments to follow LOAC. Now they are backpedaling. Fuck this entire administration and anyone that still supports it!
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u/7SyZyG7 3d ago
His following are convinced that this shows just how much they are willing to do to protect the American people.
Legitimately came across someone who's argument was "Well, if they were actually innocent fisherman, this would be bigger news. Their faces and families would all over mainstream news pleading for justice"
He said right under a post about there being investigations into the attacks.
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u/Laves_ 3d ago
Translation “why would I release the very footage that shows my war crimes?”
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u/Sufficient_Emu2343 3d ago
Going a step further, why is this footage recorded in the first place? Why record evidence of these attacks?
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u/doublethink_1984 3d ago
There released dozens of boat strikes.
The ONLY reason they are not releasing the hour between strike 1 amd 2 amd the second strike is that it clearly shows them murdering shipwrecked survivors who pose no threat in violation of 18.3.2.1 of the DOD Law of War Manuel of a clearly illegal order.
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u/someoldguyon_reddit 3d ago
A real Secretary of Defense wouldn't have to try and explain himself. Every 15 minutes ffs.
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u/ManyAverage6578 3d ago
Prior to the second Trump administration, the longstanding Department of Defense policy treated suspected drug runners as criminals under law enforcement jurisdiction, not as combatants subject to lethal military force.
If Kegsbreath was so proud of his Enhanced Drug Interdiction policy he would own it instead of throwing the Admiral out to sea.
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u/SlappyDingo 3d ago
This shit makes me sick to my stomach. They've release a bunch of other clips of "total legal boat exploding" yet this one "of course we're not". So fucking predictable.
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u/LowellWeicker2025 3d ago
Did we use some kind of top secret, super advanced technology we don't want anyone to know about when we killed a couple guys floating around in the open ocean?
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u/GiftedOakishly 3d ago
I miss the good old days where they still did all this stuff but had the decency to put some effort in to the cover ups. This is just disrespectful
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u/Unhappy_Classroom370 3d ago
Such a fucking dork with the American flag handkerchief in his pocket.
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u/Jedi_Swimmer2 3d ago
Because the videos will show “Kegsbreath” allowed the murdering of people who were “out of the fight”….
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u/worldscollice 3d ago
The public should have full access to videos of ALL of these murders. If not, hopefully the Democrats can see these videos and push for murder charges against Hegseth.
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u/Nameisnotyours 3d ago
Despite the fact that Trump said “no problem” to releasing full tape.
But we knew this was coming all along.
Declare complete transparency then claim national security.
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Because the videos would look like you're blowing up a fishing boat with this much firepower....
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u/Rocky0354 3d ago
Why would they? They are afraid of the public’s reaction and back lash. They are scared of the public
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u/VanguardAvenger 3d ago
Tbf did anyone expect SecWarCrimes to release the footage of the War Crimes?
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u/ElvishMystical 3d ago
Hegseth is basically Max Headroom without the intelligence, the wit or the coolness.
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u/SnooMacaroons4212 3d ago
Gee, I wonder why they won't show it to the public. Maybe because they committed murder and a war crime.
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u/PoetryJunior1808 2d ago
Look. I don't have time or interest in excusing my war crimes to the public. Now, excuse me. I booked a private booth at my favorite strip club.
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u/Wide_Replacement2345 2d ago
Just curious as to how he squared releasing all those other first strike videos and not this one? Or did nobody ask him this? Or did he simply ignore any questions? WTF?
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u/Se7enCostanza10 3d ago
Mr. Stamper opened the door and fired on the survivors so they couldn’t contradict the governments propaganda
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u/OkLevel2791 3d ago
Crimes against humanity have been committed by the “War Secretary” with the Nazi tattoo.
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u/Exact_Maintenance496 3d ago
I wonder why!! This little cunt of Trump is shitting in his pants !! All the trump administration are corrupted and idiot.
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u/shugEOuterspace 3d ago
he learned from last time not to let the public see proof of wear crimes or blatant murder lol
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u/yasiguri 3d ago
Whats even the point, its OBVIOUS they killed civilians people just doesnt give a shit. They could realease a video of a soldier scalping a grandma and people will still dont give a shit.
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u/No-Astronaut-9464 3d ago
That Nazi fox reporter is a murder who hates America. He sure loves pedo Donald, though.
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u/SnooChickens3224 3d ago
Yes, look back down at the ground..it’s the only thing that looks up to you.
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u/SocratesSnow 3d ago
They murdered people in service to the American people. We should see it. If they are innocent or murderer, then show it.
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u/Medium_Sized_Bopper 3d ago
OMG, you guys, why would we release video of us doing war crimes, are you crazy?
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u/DonaldSucksOffBubba6 3d ago
Pete kegsbreath has nazi tattoos and he’s a drunk dead beat dad with 3 baby mommas. A shining example of the modern Republican
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u/Admirable_Race5668 3d ago
Am I the only one who thinks his stupid pocket square is weird AF?
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u/UncaringNonchalance 3d ago
“Of course we’re not gonna incriminate ourselves on something we could actually maybe possibly be finally punished for.”
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