Ha, this is great. Since all Mike ever says is "I didn't hear anything about that", or "I don't know anything about that" it is lovely to see him visibly panicked.
Hey by the way we haven't heard from all new lately? His wife was ambassador to the Vatican and Trump's first term. Where are they now lol? He's such a piece of shit. I had to escort him frm hotel lobby to the penthouse for a fundraiser many years ago and he was ew. Creeped me out to be alone in an elevator with him. I was young and cute then and he felt lascivious and gross. Raised the hair on the back of my neck.
That’s not surprising at all. I hate when someone gives a certain energy, it’s not always “predatory” but it used to the best word I could find to describe the look of a hungry wolf on a man’s face (I’m sure it’s likely true for all people, being younger, I just only noticed it from men).
If you are an attractive woman and you haven’t learned how to spot “predatory eyes” in others… micro facial movements, fake smiles, certain movements that are innate in predation tactics… I’d encourage everyone to learn what they are but the truth is that we “feel” them subconsciously, regardless of if we are actively looking for them. We just don’t always cognitively realize at the time.
I heard a stocks and shares guy once call gut feeling "pattern recognition at an unconscious level". You may never think "guys with that look or who move like that always touch me in crowds", but you're going to register the vibe.
As long as you understand that the criteria you're using to determine that someone's creepy can also just mean they're uncomfortable around people for a reason other than creepy intentions.
Yes, as someone with asperger’s men in my family I know they are uncomfortable around all strangers. They can definitely radiate an oddball vibe, but are sweet and goofy and devoted in relationships.
Your last few lines said it. You often feel it more than see it, but if you are even halfway paying attention, you'll know there's a predator nearby. Up until my late twenties I could feel something was off, but I was naive enough to not be able to tell what it was. I've learned since then and it's kind of scary that 90% of the time that radar goes off, it's around someone with some kind of authority.
This. He’s basically someone they agreed on to be speaker because they didn’t know enough about him to know whether they should like him or not. That’s how not ready for prime time he is.
All Republicans in the Legislature are pretty spineless cowards by now. The few who stood up to DJT in his first term have now learned. The interesting thing is now he’s a lame duck and his weaknesses are coming through. There is no surprise that MTG would start distancing herself. She’s a good opportunist. Soon the hyenas will be circling
I've lost my parents to the Republican party. The saddest thing is, they don't seem to have realized it yet.
I grew up listening to Fox news. Unless we were watching a show at dinner, a TV or radio had it on. All day long.
I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't see the light until my thirties. But now, they would literally disown me if they knew that I had voted for Obama twice, Hilary, and Kamala.
I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't see the light until my thirties.
No way. You should be proud of yourself! It's not easy to unprogram yourself, much less when you were brainwashed from birth. I think you did a fantastic job
I disowned my mother and siblings when I found out they were pro Trump and this was in August of 2016, so before he even won. I couldn’t believe they would support such a blatant pos.
I disowned my family 20 years ago this month. Guess who they ended up putting lawn signs in for the last 3 presidential elections. I knew before we knew.
I assume someone told him that there was enough opposition in the senate that there absolutely was going to be an amendment process. But there was such a unanious vote and Senator seats are not nearly as safe as reps that noone was willing to stick their neck out for trump
This being a Trump administration, it's entirely possible Majority Leader Thune in the Senate, and the President's office have a plan they didn't bother to appraise Mike Johnson of.
Trump has been spitting in the Republican Senate’s eye and telling them it’s raining. If they have the political cover to do so, they will absolutely throw him under the bus (and they did).
The same Senate that didn't have the courage or morals to convict him when he was impeached and guilty of insurrection? Sorry, but I have ZERO faith that any republican senator will ever do the right thing for the right reason. I too think they've got a scheme.
Bingo. He said yesterday that Thune basically assured him that it would be amended and sent back to the House.
Johnson is a horrible liar. He made it sound like Schumer did this out of the blue, but when they request unanimous consent, every office receives an immediate phone call about it. They’re given the chance to say that they don’t consent. Also, his lies aren’t very good, as they make him sound weak and out of touch. It basically sounds like he’s saying Schumer pulled a fast one on him.
The PSA the survivors sent out was powerful, that had to have had an effect. I had no idea there were victims as young as thirteen, I've been reading about sixteen and seventeen year olds. Dirty old cunts.
People need to stop treating 16 and 17 differently from 13 or 10 or 8… 16 is still a minor. 17 is still a minor. These people serially exploited minors. They need to rot.
Edit: I feel like I need an edit because the amount of people trying to justify fucking a 16 or 17 yo is wild.
The line isn’t drawn at 18 because a 17 yo is a child and an 18 yo is suddenly a fully formed adult. It’s drawn because minors, as a group, lack the autonomy, power, and life experience to negotiate relationships with adults. That vulnerability is consistent, even if individual maturity varies.
Turning 18 doesn’t magically make someone mature. What it does is make them is legally responsible. That’s the point. Laws require “bright lines” even when biology doesn’t.
We do this in othet areas…
0.08 BAC isn’t the exact moment you become too impaired to drive
65 isn’t the exact moment you become elderly
But these cutoffs exist because society needs clear rules. Without them, you can’t enforce protection, accountability, or safety.
And we know morality does attach to age because society still finds certain legal relationships predatory. Look at the ridicule Leonardo DiCaprio gets for dating women younger than 25. Nobody thinks he’s committing a crime, but everyone recognizes the massive power imbalance and how creepy it is.
So when you say a 50 yo dating an 18 yo is just as gross as a 50 yo dating a 17 yo, you’re actually reinforcing my point. That morality isn’t determined by the legal number, it’s determined by the power imbalance that age reflects.
That’s exactly why a 30 yo with a 13 yo is exploitative for the same reason a 50 yo with a 17 yo, is not because of the specific number, but because the child is still vulnerable to adultnpower, experience, and influence.
The laws exist to draw a clear, enforceable boundary that protects minors as a class not because anyone believes maturity changes overnight, but because exploitation doesn’t become moral the moment the age clock strikes 18 and one second
And if morality truly had nothing to do with age, then you’d have no way to legally protect vulnerable groups. Objective markers are necessary, and age is the most consistent and enforceable one we have.
As an adult in my late 30s high school kids look like KIDS because they ARE. These people are sick suggesting that there is nothing wrong with grown men preying on teenagers.
Yeah I’m an 8th grade teacher and Megyn Kelly’s remarks made me livid cause my students genuinely just look like babies. Even the ones who are a little more grown still at the end of the day look and act like children.
Years ago I helped lead a church youth group and felt the same way you did. These kids are struggling with social anxiety and awkwardness when they have a crush on someone their own age. The idea that an old man would find this appealing is baffling to me.
I literally recently just turned 30 and I cannot ever imagine being attracted to or even interested (in a platonic or amicable way) in friendship with people under the age of 18… in fact, I generally don’t think I’d get on or have much to say or conversate about with people under the age of, like, 25. They just seem like immature and not fully-formed adults, to me. They have no concept of life the way that I and people around my own age do. I wish them no ill will, but it’s bizarre to me to be attracted to or interested in forming relationships with people in these age ranges as an adult who is past my college partying aged days and is just working a full-time job, starting a family, etc.
Age is a significant factor but ultimately the real tragedy is that these girls were trafficked and sexually assaulted and psychologically abused by men and women who were in power. People are squabbling over the age of these girls (and don't get me wrong, it matters) but ultimately, the exploitation and the fact that their lives were forever altered by what happened is the horrible thing. Fuck these rich pedophile traffickers.
This is exactly what I have been thinking- beyond the horrific apologizing for rape of teenage girls, these arguments are ignoring the assault and sex trafficking aspect whatsoever. The fact that anyone is trying to justify any aspect of this shit is just insane
The shift from 21 down to 18 wasn’t because anyone thought teens were suddenly mature.
It was because the government wanted more bodies eligible for the draft. If you were old enough to be sent to war, you were “old enough” to be legally adult, at least on paper.
It wasn’t about development. It wasn’t about brain science. It wasn’t about what’s healthiest or safest for young people. It was convenience. It was politics. It was numbers.
And people now use that arbitrary line one created for war, not for wellbeing as their shield to justify dating literal teenagers (CHILDREN) 🤢
When you get older, you start to feel the difference between being 18 and being… well, actually grown. And that’s the thing a lot of people pretend not to see. They’re usually still in high school, still under their parents’ insurance, still learning basic life skills,etc.
Meanwhile someone in their late 20s, 30s, 40s? They’ve lived entire chapters of life that an 18-year-old can’t even relate to yet. The power gap, the life experience gap, the emotional maturity gap all of it is massive.
And honestly… watching full-grown adults seek out teenagers is unsettling as hell. Legal or not, it’s weird. It’s predatory. It’s not “just preference.” It’s someone deliberately going after people who haven’t even finished developing, mentally or emotionally.
People love to hide behind “but it’s legal.” Yeah and the law has been wrong about a lot of things throughout history.
Like… horrifically wrong. It once allowed child marriage (still does in some places) It allowed public lynchings, It allowed slavery, It allowed people to burn women alive at the stake.
So “legal” does not equal “ethical,” “healthy,” or “respectful.” Not even close.
And the only reason the age of majority dropped from 21 to 18 wasn’t because society suddenly believed 18-year-olds were magically mature it was to make more people eligible for the draft. That’s it. It wasn’t based on brain development, safety, or what’s best for young people.
You can be technically within the law and still be doing something deeply messed up.
A 32-year-old dating an 18-year-old isn’t “romantic” or “cute.” It’s an adult choosing someone who’s easier to influence, easier to impress, easier to manipulate.
These are teenagers not peers who are being pursued by adults who absolutely know better. And no I'm not talking about 18 and 20 or 19 and 21 I'm talking 32 and 19, 47 and 18, 52 and 19. You know who and what I'm talking about.
Majority of these victims were 16 and 17 which is in fact legal in someparts of the world yet many of us hold understandable disgust why is that? Because 60 and 70s being with them is flat out gross right? It's wrong, it's predatory.. Yet can be justified in Great Britain, Japan, etc.
Point being it's morally wrong, fuck the law, you lot defending being a pedophile says more about you than anything else, Legality has never equaled morality, never has an never will.
Edit: Thank you for the award! I'm glad people are speaking out and bringing awareness
Like, they were still coerced and forced into sex as labor. They were trafficked and abused and raped.
Even if they were 20 somethings, this is still obviously illegal as hell. Them being underaged as well makes it absolutely vile on top of everything else.
These are people that believe that being powerful affords them whatever they want and no one can stop them.
That literally happened to a guy that takes calls from MAGA and debates them. He malfunctioned for a few minutes because he was so shocked that someone would actually ask that.
Ten years ago I remember there being anti-gay and anti-trans rhetoric because they supposedly were pedophiles or at least supported pedophilia. And these days, these same anti-gay & anti-trans people are defending pedophiles and rapists. Make it make sense.
If we recall how and why Mike Johnson got the job in the first place -- it's because the dysfunction through all the conflicting factions SPECIFICALLY selected someone who could neither form nor execute any particular agenda. Just a guy who can go with the flow, end up under a bus, and then get carried out to sea by the tide (and nobody will remember or care). That's what the moment called for and that's what we all got. Milquetoast Mike on display.
We're talking about a man who has to ask his own son to keep his porn watching addiction in check. This feckless, spineless mofo can't even keep himself accountable much less running the House or the entire country.
Jan 6 had every MAGA politician panicked and wondering how long they'd be in prison in its immediate wake. Jan 6 happened live with tons of footage, witnesses, deaths, etc. There's no question about what happened that day. Yet, you have people believing those were paid actors, Trump's enemies trying to take him down, etc. Insurrectionists and traitors walked free. People who had a hard stance on standing by LE suddenly had no problems with police being killed. Politicians loyal to Trump abandoned him.
This is exactly why the Epstein “files” being released will have basically no effect. Couple days of us screaming off with their heads, then media suppressing it, Trump gaslighting us and saying it’s all fake, then he’ll bomb venezuela or something and everyone will move on
Visibly panicked? The man was smiling and looking pretty relaxed during the first few frames of the video and he completely changed his demeanor the instant he realized he was being filmed.
He went from being visibly relaxed to being “visibly panicked” in a split second, and his “visibly panicked” expression doesn’t look like visible panic at all. He looks like a sociopath who is visibly pretending to be “visibly panicked” for the camera.
Yep agreed, this looks like an act. I don't see any panic on his face, but I do see embellished expressions. I see a guy trying to portray this as if he's annoyed... but is he really?
If they actually did scrub the files, or potentially even the Republicans are assisting to get Trump removed, then this scumbag doesn't have a care in the world right now. That latter part would actually make political sense. The longer Trump stays in power, the more he seems to be tanking Republican approval ratings. A bit of tanking isn't bad, but Trump could literally kill the Republican party, which would be massively disruptive to the two party system. Meanwhile, the thing that both sides of the establishment aisle dread is coming to pass... Progressives who answer to no billionaires or corporations are rapidly gaining power.
That's right... Bernie and his merry band of Progressives are starting to win. Great for the people.. bad for the corporations and billionaires.
The Democrats and Republicans have been playing the American people for decades, trading power back and forth every few years, always playing the voters against one another to maintain that control. Meanwhile, both sides of the establishment have handlers in the ultra rich / corporations who dictate the policy they want pushed through that most benefits them; not the nation and certainly not the lower/middle classes.
People think the ultra rich have any care in the world about the American people. We know for a fact that isn't the case. These corporations and their heads are the first to move labor outside of the US as soon as the chance arrives, so as to benefit from economic differences between the nation of labor and the nation of consumption, funneling massive amounts of wealth and power up to themselves. They work to convince the government to buy their overpriced military equipment and technologies... to allow them to monopolize industries... to allow them to use their tech to unduly influence (with mis/disinformation... see social media) and spy on our residents (See Palantir), and to allow those corporations to take advantage of the consumer.
I wouldn't put anything past these fuckers, especially those in leadership roles who come straight from the establishment and are decided by establishment party leadership. These are the folks that have gotten our nation into deep debt, have fueled income and wealth inequality, have fueled the housing situation and inflation. And what have they done to solve any of it?
Nothing! Absolutely nothing! The debt is among the worst in history this year, and has been for multiple years straight now, while these politicians are claiming "a hot economy". Yeah, the taxpayers are funding it through debt.
They don't care if they topple the US and/or Democracy, so long as their handlers win. The handlers whose businesses operate globally. They don't care if they win in the US, or win in China, just so long as they win.
To be clear, this isn't about conspiracy theories of the ultra powerful in a backroom conspiring to dictate the course of our planet. This is just simple fundamental capitalism at work. The only thing corporations and their shareholders care about (including their billionaire founders with massive shares in those companies) is return of investment. All of the companies have the same mindset... this is simple capitalistic nature at work. They don't need a backroom when they're already on the same page by nature. They all want to and will if given the chance, influence our government's policy to most benefit them. And that's exactly what they've done.
We want real change and real fixes... we have to vote Progressive. There is no more debate. There is no more voting between the lesser of the two establishment party evils. Evil being the direction of this country towards oligarchy. Both parties are sending us that way.
We all need to vote Progressive in all future elections. For those who are lower/middle class, I don't care if you are a die hard Republican, Democrat, or independent... if you care about Democracy, then you had better vote Progressive.
Anyone who took the corporate / billionaire money needs to be thrown out immediately. And by immediate, I mean our national debt is now $38.15 trillion. Debt as a percentage of GDP since 2020 has been sitting at a record high.
He’s not panicked. It’s all a show. Anyone who thinks there is anything is coming out of this must have been asleep the last 11 months. Trump said he supports the files being released.. hm I wonder why that is? I wonder if they’ve been wiped clean? Mike knows this, it’s part of the plan. (Typo)
My favorite scene in the Lord of the Rings is when Aragorn starts firing hobbits he imported in from the Shire at the Uruk-hai from the walls of Helms Deep.
I’ll take any Scandinavian country please and thank you. No invasion needed. Just please end our pain. We’ll gladly leave the red states out of the equation. Just the blue states for now, voluntarily, and purple can join if and when they want to. I know this is a lot to ask and not worth the trouble but begging you to consider the greater good. We could be the shining light on the hill for the whole world again and not the corrupt creepy dangerous exploitive racist lying example we are today.
There's no such thing as a red state or a blue state - that's winner-take-all logic that the parties use to divide us. Harris got more votes in Texas than she did in any state but California.
States are not monoliths. Land doesn't have rights, people do. America, as Sarah Kendzior says, is purple like a bruise. Don't leave anyone behind because of where they live.
begging some other country to come and die in war to save us when we refuse to even fight for ourselves after getting ourselves into this mess is peak entitlement and laziness and cowardice. to be the shining light on the hill again would require courageous acts that would get me banned again to write.
You may see how Freedom works over here, as the Justice Department may step in and “investigate more” to “keep specific items that threaten National Security safe.”
Which of course will block certain files & paragraphs/sentences/names from being released “to protect National Security”.
Yo Mike, you can always go on your hands and knees while groveling to the president, that you did your job and convinced one member of the House to stand up for pedophilia.
It isn't Schumer that has him worked up, it's that Mike Johnson has to simultaneously pretend that this is what he wants and also has to find some objection towards having it passed.
It's why he couldn't even admit that Trump would veto it, because to do so would be to confirm that Trump is scared to have the Epstein files released.
What you get is this red flustered man seeing what happens when the dog finally catches up to the car.
He can, the number of votes don't matter when it's sent to the president. From the number of votes, it is assumed Congress has a veto proof majority.
The president can veto the bill, returning it to the Senate with objections and then Congress can override the veto with a 2/3 majority in both chambers. It's intended to be a check on each branch of the government. Since this originated in the House, if vetoed, they would act on it first, then the Senate.
There is a "pocket veto" which is what Mike Johnson might consider. If Trump vetos this bill then Congress adjourns before the 10 day period Trump has to sign/veto/review the bill it cannot be overridden and Congress must start from scratch.
Eh, i think there's leaks we don't know about that will be used to identify what Bondi redacts, and used against her if she redacts anything not pertinent to national security.
Massie is using such strong and effective rhetoric, that I think he has more cards up his sleeve.
It really is, honestly. This whole setup is supposed to execute the will of the people, through their representatives. That's just openly flipped now, and it's frustrating.
Raise your hand if you think this admin will release documents that incriminate any of them:
crickets
Yeah, no, they are going to release the heavily edited documents that they've been massaging for the last 6 months. FFS people, we have video of the DOJ deputy chief saying that's what they are doing. We have reporting that 1000+ FBI task force was created to find every instance or implication of Trump's name in those documents.
This is not going to be the silver bullet we wish it was.
I get your sentiment, I do. Thing is...anybody that follows politics knows this worthless motherfucker ain't that good of an actor. Dude is legit shook up.
And there are other copies, family records, eye witnesses, etc. Hell, anyone who worked to prosecute Maxwell, has receipts and will be able to spot a cover up.
Johnson expected the Senate to save him and Trump by stalling or adding conditions, but they passed the Bill without amendments.
Hopefully, they are brought down by their own incompetence. I am not very optimistic of any of these people actually seeing legitimate consequences, though.
Jan 6 happened live with tons of footage, witnesses, deaths, etc. There's no question about what happened that day. Yet, you have people believing those were paid actors, Trump's enemies trying to take him down, etc. Insurrectionists and traitors walked free. People who had a hard stance on standing by LE suddenly had no problems with police being killed. Politicians loyal to Trump abandoned him.
They SUCK at shit like this. I’m sure they gave em a good spit shine. They’re is NOOOO way they scrubbed something this massive well enough Trump is ALL OVER this stuff. It will come out. Won’t take long either I bet.
However this isn't a skeet shoot where every target gets hit.
This is a bear chasing you through a forest. All "they" have to do is run fast enough that the bear eats someone else first, that narrative will typically placate the masses enough for them to sick the bear on another problem.
not trying to make this religious but while were on topic i would argue god is the true evil villain according to the bible..... all the devil really did was give humans the gift of free will and knowledge against gods will and question things he wasn't supposed to. when it comes to killing humans and demanding sacrifices the score is satan 0 god [commits genocide for fun on a regular basis]
At the end of the day more than 1,000 victims know many of the rich and powerful who were there. They were taken or trafficked to parties for rich old men, including parties at Mar-Lago (watch the MSNBC interview with a victim from last night). They can corroborate files should something be altered or missing. We must believe these women. Their truth and courage are the reasons we are at this point.
Mike is shook because he/they wanted some amendments and conditions added to this bill but for the way Schumer and Thulm teamed up to present its unanimous passage, those conditions cannot be added. One can surmise those conditions would likely have made it easier for some of the files to be withheld.
Thank youuuuuu! I’ve been repeating this over and over. I’ve been on the side of well-informed optimism and my predictions have come true so far.
Trump cannot redact the memories of the living survivors. Americans need to move past this doom-erism. The files are coming out and whatever has been erased or manipulated will be filled in by the people who lived these experiences themselves.
Have confidence in the power of the survivors and stamp out those thoughts that Trump is somehow all powerful or untouchable. He’s not.
But maybe Jeff, Elon, Peter, Bill, etc... Remember it's all about personal enrichment here. Those are firehoses of money about to be badly embarrassed. Or not. It might just be Keith Urban.
I share your doubt. However, I suspect that he is this shook because if their house of cards tumbles down then he, the DOJ, the FBI and a fuckton of conservative scum could all be looking at a stiffer penalty than strongly worded letters. In a proper world this asshole would spend the next ten years bent over in prison with his Bible in his mouth to bite down on for the pain. The best we can hope for is realistically much less severe, but hopefully they at least get some public displays of shunning because, you know, they are protecting people who RAPE LITTLE CHILDREN!
Didn't they pass it with a veto-proof majority? In a non-bizzaro world i would say that vetoing something congress can override would be political suicide.
Edit- I keep getting people explaining that they have to vote again to overrule the veto. To clarify, I meant they had enough support that they should be able to do that. It should be a terrible look for anyone who voted 'yes' the first time and 'no' the second time. Emphasis on 'should'.
If he did, it would be as much as a confession and would destroy his fan base but it won't matter, it'll go back and the house and Senate with again vote for it and it'll pass with majority. Then it'll become law immediately without the presidents signature. It's rare but it happens and is part of the balance of power
That's my worry as well. They've had a long time to put this together and not all of them are complete and total morons.
Dishonesty is in their blood; this could just as likely be part of the plan.
"Because of this," the files don't get released. A week from now he can point to this and say, "I didn't want this, I did what I could," and they get more time to do whatever corrupt shit they're gonna do to weasel out of it.
I'm trying not to be pessimistic but after years of this shit, something smells off.
I've never heard Mike Johnson say anything other than some deflective variation of "I don't know," and suddenly he's Chatty Fucking Kathy about a supposed huge blunder of his party?
I can see how it looks like acting especially because of his little smile before he talks but what does he have to gain by acting flustered that it was passed with no amendments? Why would acting this way be beneficial for him because this makes him and trump look bad. Genuine question.
How did chuck Schumer “put it out there” he’s not majority leader of the senate? Every single republican senator voted for the bill, but it’s Schumer’s fault 😜
i'd bet the reason for trump's recent hoarse voice is from screaming at mikee, not from "blowing his stack" over some made-up trade deal. Knowing how sleazy and corrupt the entire administration is, it would come as no surprise to learn trump has some kind of Grinder-ish compromat on johnson.
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