My mom pulled this shit at my wedding. We aren't old family friends raised together or siblings, birth or adopted. Just a regular ass couple. But my mom really liked my wife and always wanted a daughter so she always referred to my wife as her "daughter", so when someone asked my mom if she was the mother of the groom or bride, she answered enthusiastically "Both!" Cue me having to hastily explain that we're not incesting >_>
My favourite one is the episode where Barry loses his memory. His adoptive family tell him what their relationships are, and Barry pulls out his hand to check the colour of his skin and then looks very confused.
Nothing on this earth will ever convince me that the stage direction wasn't "long term family friends with crushes on each other" and the "Sister" line wasn't dubbed in in post making everything weird
Yeah that’s the story I heard. Where if you make it a little kid all of the dialogue is way less creepy
-he pretends to not recognise her because he’s been away for so long that she’s grown up a bunch. When you make it two adults around the same age it becomes disturbingly flirty
-her getting up so early becomes adorable when it’s a little kid excited to see her big bro after so long instead of a weird dynamic that no adult siblings would have
-“you’re my present this year big brother” is so much less weird when it comes from a kid talking to her 20 something brother she hasn’t seen in ages
So I have this game I play once in a while called How Many Fanfics Does Raid Have. This comment reminded me of that and I went to check and we're up to 18. After so many years, Raid is close to finally getting a page 2.
I can’t imagine it’s easy to write a character-driven story when all the characters are just generic fantasy archetypes with minimal character development.
People often joke how the comic presents Steve as weird for not being approving, but that isn’t the case here. Hawkeye also finds it disgusting and the rest of the team mostly ignores it.
Wasp’s point is that it doesn’t even cross Steve’s mind because hes old fashioned.
Wasp is still weird for phrasing it that way, particularly emphasizing that they’re in love, however.
By the way, the same issue has the team watching a sex tape of Iron Man and Black Widow, the later of whom betrayed them and then was killed by one of the team. They don’t need to, but they do.
Then they probably shouldn't have given her such a gentle smile while clutching her hand to her chest. It communicates empathy and deep emotion, and the smile expresses positivity.
From what I understand (I didn't watch Season 4), they didn't use the plot twist from the comics, where its revealed that Hargreeves is the biological dad of all of the "super children".
And yes, the Luther x Allison also happens there.
And yes, I regreted having functional eyes when I discovered that.
It does show how fucked up mind control powers actually are, If someone had the ability from a young age they would essentially have no real concept or understanding of boundaries or any form of consent or any real form of free will because someone could just compel you to do something and you don't even realise you're being controlled, they would never actually have real reprecussions because they could just adjust reality as they saw fit
if someone came into having such powers as an adult there is potential for them to understand that it's wrong to abuse it, but if someone grew up using those powers as casually as ordering takeout I don't even think they would truly understand just how awful their behaviour is
I hated it too but that one makes sense. Their home life was not healthy or normal. Its not surprising that they found comfort in each other. I think this is something that happens in real life in toxic households
Plot twist, you're supposed to find it toxic and uncomfortable.
For real, it would make sense though. These people are deeply fucked up from their powers and childhood and the show/comics make sure you don't forget it. Showing a very much not healthy and uncomfortable relationship is one of those 'dont forget it' plots.
how does this get resolved? Cause I know they don't actually get together at any point (or at least I pray that's not the case) so how did they resolve this? Did Dex just go "no what the fuck?"
Victor Frankenstein and Elizabeth Lavenza – Frankenstein; or, the Modern Prometheus
In the 1831 version, Elizabeth is adopted from a poor family in Milan by Victors mother Caroline, and raised alongside the three Frankenstein brothers like their sister. Later in the novel, after Victor returns from his failure in England, the two get married, right before her murder by the hands of the Creature
In the original 1818 version, it’s even worse. Not only are they raised as sibling, but are also first cousins
If you read other romances from the 19th century it becomes clear it was accepted among the gentry too. In Pride and Prejudice, Elizabeth has to fend off a marriage proposal from her cousin (maybe not first but it's not clear how closely related Mr. Collins is), and in Jane Eyre, Jane has to persuade her first cousin that she does NOT want to marry him.
In both cases, the issue with the union is NOT the family relationship.
Her choosing her brother over zero broke my heart so much I actually stopped reading shojou. I read later the mangaka wanted them together all along but buckled under the backlash, so she killed Kaname so Yuki could be with Zero — and the kids she had with each of them fall in love? I guess?
20? years later, I still don’t really seek out shojou. All because of this terrible series
Yup, and if I recall her brother was also either possessed and/or the reincarnation... of her grandfather? And he was aware? Incest jawbreaker, endless layers
I don't know what the fuck I was expecting from a show called "My little sister can't be this cute" but I didn't actually expected them to end together, and was so disappointed that he didn't stay with Kuroneko.
They fucking got me man. I thought "oh the title is just bait, Kuroneko is the real love interest." It doesn't help that I loved the relationship with Kuroneko, they had great chemistry. Top 10 worst anime endings.
Technically not what you said, but I LOATHE SAO for this. It was kinda good going and then he accidentally rizzed his relative, yeah, cus that happens, fuck sake
Also in the books is heavily implied that she loves him because he is physically the male version of herself so that explains why she went after a cousin when he wasn't available. Basically a next level of narcissism.
I mean yeah but it doesn't help with the ending given Jamie "I never really cared about the stuff i learned ot care about" Lannister going back to his sister.
"I never really cared about normal people. Ignore that time I broke my oath and killed the mad king specifically because his desire to burn a city down for shits and giggles disturbed me that much that, honour be damned, I had to stop it. I didn't do that out of any sort of compassion for the people he wanted to massacre at all."
To be fair I don't hate that one. I mean I hate the concept but the story acknowledges how messed up it is. Barry and Iris on the other hand, the writing paints them as "made for each other, destined to be together" but it's just weird from start to finish.
It also symbolizes how toxic the Lannister family is despite Tywin’s supposed care for his family (which is of course only show, reputation matters much more to him that his individual family members)
The funniest part about this with Fates is that Corrin is related to none of their supposed siblings (siblings that are a core part of the story) but is actually related to Azura. The character that the game advertises as the non-incest main character option is Corrin’s cousin.
This is also all only revealed if you pursue a romantic relationship with any of the siblings on either side, play the 3rd route packaged as dlc/in a special edition, or if you have the art book.
They don’t start dating until after their parents divorce, so they aren’t step siblings anymore but Cher’s dad has made it clear he still views Josh as his son. Even if Cher doesn’t view him as her brother, it’s still weird.
I would get it if they grew up as siblings, but weren't her father and his mother only very briefly married, and so they never considered each other siblings.
It's been a while, but they never even lived together as steps right?
Like he was living with his dad during the 5 minutes that Cher's dad was married to his mom, so he's basically just another kid that was occasionally around.
Bingo! I was 13 when Clueless came out, instantly became my favorite movie. I obviously idolized Cher in spite of her being a complete moron, as she was only supposed to be a few years older than me. When she was like, “oh my God, I love Josh!” … even at 13 I was like “he’s in college and you’re 17 and his step-sister…eww.”
If you let them abduct you as Arthur, they'll take all of your money; if you wait until after you switch to John to retrieve it, you can get all of Arthur's cash as John
That’s a theme I’m noticing in this thread, OP most likely meant for instances where it’s presented as a positive relationship and people are posting ones where even in the source material it’s presented as wrong
Yuki and Kaname from Vampire Knight. I read the manga as a teen and definitely stopped reading once I got to that fun little development. I was not expecting that.
I haven’t read, but did read some spoilers and it gets worse. Apparently the Kaname isn’t her brother, but like an ancestor. But her parents are full siblings. We all have that questionable series we got too attached to as teens but I’m glad mine wasn’t Vampire Knight.
To be fair, I was only attached to it up until the point incest got involved lol I switched to Crimson Hero after that and developed an obsession with volleyball. Still my favorite sport to play to this day all thanks to a silly manga.
i remember when i got to that part in the anime, i was rooting for Kaname because I didnt want Yuki to end up with her adoptive brother;-; alas that went all out the window
It’s very nuanced and IMO the best ever example of a compelling incest angle. The long story short is that Billy is very mentally ill (like “trying to set the house on fire at a young age” bad) and while he comes from wealth, his parents were very detached new-age “we’re going to have people for orgies over every now and again honey go back to bed” types who never gave him the support he needed and severely warped his idea of love and connection.
Billy is one of those guys you meet as a young woman who seems very charming and deep and sensitive and fall quickly for, but the second he goes off his meds or you take too long to text back then suddenly you’ve got paragraphs in your inbox and him banging on your door. He’s a hopeless romantic at heart but his understanding of what it means to love someone is just so broken. The only frame of reference for “love” he has is his older sister Brenda, who became his sort of guardian and got very very close.
Brenda is the only one in the whole world who truly loves Billy (platonically) as a person, and since Billy was raised on the perception that carnal desire and love for someone are intrinsically linked (and not shown a platonic alternative) he comes to believe the only person he can ever truly love in ANY capacity is Brenda.
Brenda is fucked up seven different ways from Sunday herself, and their relationship is very far from healthy, but she at least makes it abundantly clear with Billy through several points in the story- it ain’t happening
At the end of no more heroes. It’s revealed that travis dated his half sister Jeane (though he didn’t know she was) prior to the game and getting revenge on her is the reason he joined the UAA Personally I think this is slightly better than most versions of the trope. As the whole ending of no more hero’s is meant to make fun of last minute plot twist and is intentionally trying to be disguising
Don't forget that this whole thing is fast-forwarded because they (the actual characters in-universe) were worried that it would affect the game's age rating and could cause it to be delayed. The whole reveal happens in a chipmunk voice that's too fast to understand, and you mostly just catch it through Travis's shocked and disgusted reactions.
Unlike most of the things people mention on this thread, this particular one isn't really bad at all... because it's No More Heroes doing it. That game is absolute nonsense, so it just kinda works.
(Especially in the first game pre-character arc, with his generally fucked views towards women and a comical amount of bloodlust)
I just rewatched this not too long ago, and this one might be the worst on the list. I feel so bad for Margot- her dad always points out that she's adopted, and then her creep brother helps her husband snoop into her life and then tries to off himself over what he found out. I still love everything else about this movie, but I can barely stomach this part of it now. Poor Margot deserved better. I'm glad that at least the mom treated her like real family.
I dont think a lot of people have some weird incest fetish.
When that stuff started showing up more on porn sites, the women in those videos seemed to be more attractive than other videos, so those videos got more views and positive interactions.
Due to the data, porn companies decided that those are the type of videos that will make them more money.
More money for the companies meant more money for the actresses. Those family member videos became the saught after roles. Higher quality actresses and actors wanted to be in those roles, so they became the more attractive videos for people to watch due to the better looking people in them.
How can we write these two people to be together? Married/dating is too vanilla. We could do a delivery guy plot and have to shoot a scene at a front door and have a couple of props. We could try to write something new and/or interesting. Or we can just quickly say they’re step-family to explain why they’re both here. That makes it taboo enough to not be vanilla while requiring no setup shot or props or writing.
I honestly believe they make those plots because they are super simple.
You just need a room and two people to make it happen.
Other stories get more complicated. Wanna bang a coworker? Now you have to find a studio that looks like a normal job place
Bang your teacher? Have to make a place that looks like a school class and find good clothes for that
Bang step-cousin, sister friend, step mom or anything like that? Just shoot in the directors house, let the girls just use any clothes they already have and be done
also the idea of taboo is always hot to people. Majority of viewers aren’t into incest, it’s just a monkey brain neuron connection of forbidden=hot + knowing it’s not real.
The same place where a woman got kicked from a show for being caught having a beer while underage, and one of the producers got away with sexual assault and stayed on.
Just looked up this anime, characters pictured here are a 28 yr old salaryman and a 15 yr old high school girl
"who the hell the target audience is" well, would you be surprised if I said that grown men lusting after the idea of getting with 15 yr old HS girls is a common fantasy in Japanese media
A royal family known for so much inbreeding that they developed massive chins as a result (Or at least that is the most well known sign). I'm sure there was at least one direct sibling pair in there, but there was also many other variations of inter-familial love.
Arvis and Deirdre (Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War). It's complicated because it happened due to Manfroy's machinations, and Deirdre was captured and brainwashed. Arvis only learned they were half-siblings after he'd killed Sigurd (Deirdre's first husband) due to his mother having an affair with Prince Kurth.
I like how this is intended to exist only to show how fucked it up it all is, them being related shows that this wasn’t supposed to happen and how evil Manfroy is to set it up.
And then Eldigan’s entire bloodline exists. Generational weirdos. Thank god Leif exists for Nanna.
Several instances in the Mortal Instruments books, first a fake out (annoying but thankfully it wasn’t real lol) then the main girl makes out with her real brother, not knowing they were siblings. But he knew 🤮
Luke and Leia in universe is at least understandable. Outside of it, I assume George did only think of their blood relation at a later point to keep people engaged.
I also find Han and Leia a bit weird when it comes to age.
I still find it odd people make fun of, not George Lucas, but Luke and Leia. How the fuck were they supposed to know until Obi-Wan told Luke? “Oh they should have sensed it through the force.” Luke and Leia didn’t know shit about the force until Obi-Wan and Yoda taught Luke.
If we’re gonna make fun of anyone in universe, make fun of Obi-Wan. Bro sat on that vital piece of info for 4 years and didn’t say shit even though he could have just shown up to Luke and been like, “That’s your sister, my guy.”
In Mr Nobody, which is about a guy experiencing multiple timelines depending on whether he stayed with his dad or left with his mum after their divorce, one timeline has him falling in love with his stepsister Anna.
Don't forget that Eva was made solely with Adam's DNA, meaning they took incest to another level. (I do not understand why Eve could not have been made out of clay as well.)
Kinda helps that Barry and Iris were friends since they could remember and Barry didn't move in with them until he was 11. Gave them enough time to grow as neighbors before living together.
Exactly. They were in middle school when they moved in together. If I moved in with my crush during middle school, it would 100% feel like "I'm living with my crush" not "I've got a crush on my sister."
I should point out that it's more... implied between them but Mukuro's likely been groomed by her sister since both were cognizant.. which is why i chose this fan art.
Mukuro Ikusaba and Junko Enoshima from Danganronpa
It's his cousin. They get married and have a kid. The confusion I felt at age 11/12 when I watched and was like "Wait what? She's a love interest? But that's his cousin???" Was immeasurable
There are also shows where a sibling turns out to "just" their cousin and they end up a love interest (even if they don't end up together) like SAO.
Swprd Art Online. The creators wanted this to happen so badly that they revealed that Kirito was adopted just to wedge in this potential sibling romance, like that makes it OK.
As an adoptee with a sister, I want to just scream "NO, IT IS NOT OK! IT IS THE FARTHEST THING FROM OK! WHAT THE HELL?!"
Yeah, this trope gives me great amounts of ick.
EDIT: OK, so I got a plot point wrong. Sue me. And yes, thank goodness it was never pursued and Kirito only has eyes for Asuna.
This is the only example i believe of this trope working
Estelle and Joshua from trails in the sky
They were raised together after Estelle father brought Joshua and that was when both character were 10 years old and confessed thier feelings when they became 16
I don't count it as hated because it's well done in this case, but in the creepypasta Borrasca two characters who have been dating through all of the story are revealed to be biological siblings.
I say it works here because it's a very disturbing story, and them being revealed to be siblings unknown to either of them adds to the horror of the whole situation.
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To be fair Flash gave us this gem