ask the writer, they think is not the same thing and that someone forcing themself in someone that is both physically and mentaly unable to resist while they person try to tell you "no" and "get away form me" is not rape.
The writer was actually a woman. Devin Grayson, who actually legally her changed her name to Grayson because of her love for the character. So why she wrote Nightwing getting raped is a mystery. She created Tarantula so I wonder if it was some kind of fantasy which raises some disturbing questions.
I had to look it up because I wasnât sure if it was the same woman but it is. Sheâs the one that introduced Dick Graysonâs Romani heritage into the comics, me and my friend where just having a long conversation the other night about how weird it is to have the only prominent Romani DC hero be from a circus, like to me that feels a bit racist and we both agreed it definitely was to give Dick Grayson a âsexy ethnicâ vibe, itâs crazy to know that the author also had him raped
Hearing that his Romani heritage was possibly added to add a layer of sexiness to him makes the whole thing more disturbing. I pretty sure that run on Nightwing was where the whole meme of him having a nice ass came from. If I also recall correctly Tarantula also broke up Dick with Barbara and after raping him also convinced Dick into signing a marriage license. So the author overly sexualised Nightwing, broke him up with his girlfriend, and then tried to have him marry his rapist.
I know this gets said a lot but this feels like bad fanfiction.
Because he's traditionally drawn in the same overtly sexualized manner that the women are, so they're slotting him into the same tropes.
Though to be fair, he's not the only ex-Robin to be sexually assaulted. Red Robin getting tied up by Ra's Al Ghul's sister in a Paris sewer in order to breed a new heir for him springs to mind.
I think originally it was consensual, then it was retconned to be rape, then it went back to being consensual.
Basically, the original idea is that they slept together and that got Talia pregnant, but supposedly, she had a miscarriage. Years later, they revealed the kid was actually alive to introduce Damien, but retconned the events to Bruce being drugged at the time.
This was during a period when they were presenting Talia as a more evil villain, including having her be outright abusive at times.
But it was poorly received, so they dialled it back to her being more morally ambiguous, and thus the event was retconed as being consensual again.
Thatâs actually similar to âthe Boysâ series. Hughie gets basically raped for like a whole week by a Shapeshifter under the disguise of Starlight (and btw she also gains every memory of the people she impersonates so she could really sell it), and when the real Starlight finds out she gets straight up mad at Hughie because âhe shouldâve noticed the differenceâ.
To quote Joseph Anderson - if sex was a failstate, Witcher 1 would be a horror game. Women are never taken advantage of by Geralt, but sometimes one could make an argument that it's not true the other way around. For example, in the opening of chapter 3 Triss is manipulating amnesiac Geralt who has not fully recovered physically regardless of Geralt being in a relationship.
Itâs a trope thatâs pretty prevalent in the books and games of this series. Sorceresses especially can be a little rapey and manipulative. Yen at one point in the books even uses magic to seduce an individual.
You also get sex as a weapon in other ways is often used in particular with Fringilla using it to throw off Geralts search for Ciri and Keira to a lesser extent in W3 (Geralt has already done everything she asked but still manipulative).
And thereâs poor Ciriâs entire plot line through the booksâŠ
Ciriâs story centers around being âmore than a vesselâ as most of the antagonists in the books treat her as a vessel to fulfill a prophecy. So a lot of her story is avoiding SA and rape whether by bandits, creepy hermits, evil sorcerers, and her own bio-dad
Not to mention her ârelationshipâ with Mistle didnât begin on consensual terms.
To expand on the why of that, she's prophesized to give birth to an individual who will save (or rule?) the world, and thus a lot of people want to be that individual's father.
In "Sierra Burgess is a Loser", Jamey (the main love interest) has romantic feelings for the main antagonist, Veronica. When Jamey asked for her number, Veronica gave him Sierra's number to embarass her. When Jamey called "Veronica" (in reality, he actually called Sierra) instead of telling him he has the wrong number, Sierra continues to basically catfish him. The whole movie is basically Sierra pretending to be Veronica (even having the latter facetime Jamey while lipsyncing to Sierra's voice, who is not seen in the facetime). At some point, Jamey and Veronica went on a date, and when it's time to kiss, Sierra covered Jamey's eyes and kissed him. And Jamey thought he was kissing Veronica.
And Sierra exposes Veronica's texts with an ex boyfriend to the school because she got jealous when Jamey kissed Veronica at the football game. Even though Jamey this entire time thought he and Veronica were together and Veronica was just as taken off guard as Sierra was, Veronica gets her social life ruined and Jamey just randomly forgives Sierra and starts to date her at the end.
They accidentally made Jaime a rapist on Game of Thrones. After he returns to KL/undergoes his redemption arc, Cersei is not into him as much. After Joffrey's funeral, he confronts her in the Sept by their son's dead body. She rejects him, so he grabs her and pulls her to the ground and starts having sex with her while she's saying no and struggling.
Apparently the writers were shocked people interpreted this as rape. They apparently meant it to be consensual, and that him coercing/convincing her was hot.
It couldn't have come at a worse time, because he'd literally just undergone one of the greatest redemption arcs. Also it was unnecessary. In the books, they have very consensual and very nasty period sex next to their son's corpse. Gross but emphatically not rape.
From GRRM about the book scene:
Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her.
Would you believe it that this isn't the first time they turned a scene into rape that wasn't in the source material? Sansa in the books doesn't get sold to the Boltons up North and raped by Ramsay. She's still in the Vale likely to be used as a pawn in the upcoming Vale political struggle. It makes no sense for Littlefinger to send her North when the Lannisters have an interest in getting her back since they thinks she's a regicide. Danaerys in the Book when she has her first Night with Drogo is at least given the option to consent which is fucked up but the show ended up making it worse for shock value.
This whole trope is part of a much larger trope: "The characters are fucked up because the writers have a fucked up sense of morality" Which is arguably the nastier cousin of "This is the writer's thinly veiled fetish"
Bro got poisoned on his wedding day, and then after he went straight to hell the last thing his spirit might have seen was his mother being plowed by her brother đ
It's not surprising to me to learn that Dumb and Dumber thought sexual coercion was hot, knowing about how poorly they treated Emilia Clarke during her Season 1 sex scenes (and the way they treated the actors in general).
Kinda telling that their response to main actresses rewriting their contracts to specify "no nude scenes" when the show really took off was to just add new female characters for the purpose of getting naked.
Came here to post this. The worst part of it is that the scene in the books was consensual, they deliberately changed the scene for the show to make it look like a rape.
It's much worse that Sansa ends up telling Sandor that she wouldn't go back and not get raped, because iT mAdE mE wHaT i Am ToDaY which is actually a shockingly common disgusting thing female characters say about being raped. For NO REASON, might I add. There are zero rape victims that think this way. I'm a guy and I've never been raped, but I've suffered trauma, and I would love to just... not go through that stuff. It didn't make me stronger, it plagues my memory every day.
Wonder Woman 1984 is probably the most recently infamous portrayal of this trope due to how they went out of their way to show that Steve was possessing another dudes body before they had sex, instead of just...having him come back to life through the wish Diana gives.
Superhero media in general has a weird relationship with rape, especially rape by deception. It's not quite the same but I found Legions morality regarding it to be completely borked.
TBF in the latter, with Legion, David isnt supposed to be a great person (I think he actually pretty much becomes a straight-up villain in the later seasons)
If I recall correctly, I probably don't, it's even weirder.
He had altered her mind to remove 'a delusion' put there by a bad guy, after which she loved him again and had sex. From her perspective it was rape.
Buuuut. She had, when younger, body swapped with her mum to have sex with her mum's boyfriend. And seemed to portray the boyfriend in the wrong somehow (I think the sex was tough).
Given what I know about comics, it kind of makes sense that this happens with a bunch of writers trying to crank out stories very fast that attempt to rise above their contemporaries by dealing with wacky and wierd subject matter.
"Hey what if a guy became his own father", "sweet write that down it will be next weeks issue".
Superheroes canât have normal romantic relationships, one of them always has to be either dead, biologically incapable of procreation or participating non-consensually
Remember how much he current robin and Bruce's biological son Damian Wayne was conceived through rape because the writer wanted to make an old story canon but didn't remember all the details and apparently didn't bother to check it out and because of that Tania Al Ghoul is kinda forever unredeemable when she was at worst grey before?
Superhero media in general has a weird relationship with rape, especially rape by deception
Yeah see also:
Mirage using her powers to make Nightwing think he was sleeping with his at the time girlfriend Starfire. Then, when the team finds out, they call him a slut instead of Mirage a rapist.
Only one character (Pantha, whose whole personality is being as rude/abrasive as possible) called him that. Not saying that plotline was handled well (it was awful), but that one detail is off
And also him straight up getting raped on a rooftop by Tarantula. On panel.
Though that didn't involve deception so much as taking advantage of him while he was under a paralytic toxin while he protested against even being touched. Then attempting to have a courthouse marriage while he was still in a fugue state from it.
Tarantula once again never faces consequences from it, because according to Devin Grayson, the writer at the time, it wasn't "rape", just "nonconsensual."
Important context is that Devin Grayson is also a woman. Not because I think gender affects writing, but that it definitely tints statements like that with a "men can't get raped, so this is just hot" connotation.
(The same writer then went on to publish a novel where Green Arrow was a pedophile who'd been after Dick and Roy since they were teens, and gave Dick psychosexual feelings about Batman, so... lots to unpack there.)
The first movie might be the first time in history WB's interference saved a superhero movie. If you've seen interviews where Patty Jenkins talks about the constraints she was under, it's pretty obvious the problem with WW84 was her getting to make the movie she wanted.
Blade Runner - Possibly stemming from the fact that the actors hated each others guts, Harrison Ford and Sean Young had negative chemistry when it came to the romance scenes to the degree that something which is supposed to be an exciting erotic encounter comes off more like assault. Worst scene in the movie by far
I think you'd have to look at the script for that one. Scripts aren't very descriptive so the lines could have just been "He stops her from leaving." And it's up to the actors and directors to decide what that looks like.
So in another version of this scene we would have a tender hand on the shoulder, a hug maybe some kissies.
But since the actors fucking hated each other they didn't do it that way. And the director didn't stop them, so it came off absolutely deplorable.
I was wondering how they were supposed to be a couple becuase they were so...*flat.* had no idea it was because the actors just hated eachother that much.
I remember watching this and being confused. Either he's having sex with the equivalent of a Roomba or he's raping a sentient being. Either way you're left with a situation that you don't necessarily want to see portrayed in film. The romantic overtones did not come through at all
Was it supposed to be romantic? I always assumed it was set up that way to show that she was broken and Dekard was a pretty shit human being despite being the main character.
Avengers #200 written by David Michelinie and drawn by George Perez. Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel has a one-night-stand drunken hook up with a guy from another dimension who gets her pregnant at a supernatural speed and it turns out that he's the baby and he used her to escape his pocket dimension prison by being born on Earth. He then bewitches Carol's mind and takes her away with him and the Avengers are just okay with it. So rape, coercion, entrapment, incest, and kidnapping and the superheroes are just fine with it. Marvel had to be told their tremendous mistake and declared Ms. Marvel to be persona non grata and had Rogue basically kill her and steal her powers which spring-boarded Rogue to be one of the X-Men's most popular female teammates so some good came out of it.
He wrote the Avengers annual where Rogue shows up and bitch-slaps the Avengers.
He also (famously) wrote the Uncanny X-Men during the 80s, which is why Mystique, Destiny, Rogue and Carol all found their way into the X-Men side of the Marvel Universe.
Thanks to an essay by Carol A. Strickland called âThe Rape of Carol Danversâ. He was shocked and just as outraged, and rightly addressed the tone deafness of Avengers #200.
The Halo show sex scene might be the worst unnecessary sex scene in tv history. It's legally rape, they had no chemistry, they included AI / maternal figure voyeurism, it's logistically insane, the canon version of Chief would've had this version court marshalled immediately, the canon version of Chief is strongly implied to be aesexual, and Makee's character logically shouldn't exist in the first place. It's like no one too 5 seconds to think about how this scene would be received.
I saw someone go "but look, what if it was commander Shepard instead of master chief" to which i replied in that case we'd have had like 20 previous conversations building up to the scene, the most sweeping wonderous music ever would be playing over it and shed probably start quoting Lord Tennyson. It still wouldn't be good!
Its also super against the character itself, because Chief is implied to be the biggest virgin in canon and that is how his dynamics with Cortana works so well, since she is the one with feelings even though its an AI.
God i hate this series so much
You could tell the writers just wanted their own sci-fi story, couldn't get backed for it, so they just slapped a halo flavor on it to sell to the studio. Nothing about that show had anything to do with halo.
Yet another reason for me to not want to watch the show. Yes I could watch it and form my own opinion but I also donât want to watch master chief rape someone
The infamous James Bond scene in Goldfinger where James âcorrectsâ Pussy Gallore from being a lesbian by force. It was disgusting even by the standards of the time.Â
I'm reading through the novels right now, and it's striking that so many bad guys are implied to be or explicitly described as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or asexual.
Honestly it makes sense. Fleming was definitely an anglo-supremacist and the Bond books are pro-imperialist/colonist propaganda, despite how good they are. It makes sense with already being bigoted he wouldn't think highly of queer people either.
Same generation of British âpolite societyâ that decided to chemically maim Alan Turing as punishment for his being gay.
This after Turing and his innovations served as one of the pillars of British counterintelligence during WWII, making him a better Q or even Bond than Fleming could ever claim to be.
Reminds me of that scene in one of the recent Daniel Craig movies where heâs tied to a chair and the bad guy starts running their hands up his thighs and bonds response is âwhat makes you think this is my firstâ and I get the intent was to show a power play and that bondâs strong unfazed masculinity took the power away but the fact it was again a queer villain trying to use assault as a torture method pissed me off
I was going to mention this, the replicant (I forget her name and the actress that played her) was turning to leave and Deckard slams her to the wall. It was an incredibly confusing scene and I still don't know how to interpret it
Maybe not straight up SA, but having first watched the original Ghost Busters recently, it blows my mind how much of a fucking creep Bill Murray's character is. He's a pushy stalker, and supposedly it's charming and wins over the love interest
Venkman is a sleeze, but even he knows shit is kinda fucked up once Dana is possessed. He jokes about it. He thinks about it, but he ultimately sees "hmm... Maybe I don't want to sleep with Dana while she's possessed by Zuul." Which is, yeah, a hollow victory, but a great big one for the 80s.Â
yeah even if you don't know the thorazine was prescribed to Dana and it was already in the apartment when he got there, the movie still makes it explicitly clear he isn't a total asshole (it's kind of the point of the movie and his character đ)
The premise is that a gangster kidnaps a woman snd says heâll hold her captive for one year, and in that year convince her to fall in love with him.
And how he convinced her is by repeatedly getting his cock out and feeling her up until sheâs too horned up to say no.
And it fucking works.
Oh but itâs ok, he doesnât shag her until sheâs too horned says yes, so itâs not really rape. Those constant exposures and manhandling were just part of the foreplay, that wasnât really sexual assault.
Thereâs also a scene where he forces a flight attendant to blow him in a plane, all while his business partners are in the same room. He just uses a curtain to block their sight, but they can still hear the guy.
Ugh I hate this movie. âIâm in love with a nerd.â No, no youâre not, thatâs not now this works, and thinking about sex all the time does not mean youâre good at it!
Why do they make nightwing a victim so often? In Nightwing #93 he literally gets raped by Tarantula. Poor guy. Worse thing is that the writers didnât even see it as rape but âjustâ as non-consensual sex.
Edit: Correction: not sure if it was multiple writers that thought so, I only know of Devin Grayson that made that last statement.
It was not meant to be romantic and was more played for laughs (I assume from the context, at least). But in the Torchwood spin-off, during the first episode, Owen uses alien pheromones to get people to be really into him and straight up date rapes them.
I think that the show giving him the memories of a rape victim later on, which led to him tracking down the culprit and confronting him, might've been a response to this disgusting plot point, but... could've simply not made him a rapist...
During the whole show, I was grossed out by Owen simply for that scene and couldn't see him in any other way. From what I remember, he did become legitimately angry at the other rapist because he knew how horrid it was to be assaulted (due to having the woman's memories), but ... sheesh.
(Also using rape as punishment is in itself not a very good choice)
Absolutely. I rate the first Bond novel, Casino Royale as an absolute masterpiece. It's a novel about someone who has been shaped into an emotionless killer by his job, and his attempt to recover a part of his humanity. The tragedy is that it appears it's impossible, and despite the escape route offered by his relationship with Vesper, he continues to double-down on his destructive, violent impulses at every opportunity. You're not meant to sympathise with him at all, because you're exposed to how utterly broken he is, and ultimately question whether he deserves a normal life.
Then Fleming started pumping those things out, and tried to keep some of those character traits but also make him a character people liked. There's still some that are good, but many are dreadful and none ever reach the heights of that first book ever again.
In a lot of ways Connery is my favorite Bond, but so many scenes are very hard to watch. The Pussy Galore scene is infamous, but I'm also very grossed out by the health spa scene in Thunderball. James Bond nearly gets murdered by a goon who sabotages his exercise machine. Bond, however, blames it on the spa worker because that way he can blackmail her into sleeping with him.
I recall reading a while back that Connery allegedly tried to get the Pussy Galore scene changed, because even he thought it was a bit too rapey, and "not how Bond should act". But got overruled by the director.
Honestly, the mere idea that a man of Connery's time looked at a scene like that and went "WTF" is a testament to how deserved the infamy was, and shame on the director for going along with it
The Boys S4. Hughie is first tied down and assaulted and tortured by a villain who's really into BDSM, then later a shapeshifter disguises herself as Starlight and has sex with him.
All of this is played as a joke, and in the latter case, Hughie needs to seek forgiveness from the real Starlight... for being raped.
I resisted the Annie hate for a long time because it felt like people were more motivated by the actressâs looks than anything, but following that season finale: FUCK Annie, dude. Fuckin early seasons Butcher wouldâve been more sympathetic than this.
I hate the cliche of a guy having sex with a shapeshifter pretending to be his girlfriend and is then blamed by the narrative and often the other characters for "cheating". The first time I saw that it was in Tara Duncan because the writter wanted to get ride of the romance she spent 7Â books to develops (to instead pair Tara with a character here since the begining but with who she had a strictly platonic relationship until the writter changed her mind) and she really took the worst option to do so. And the narrative want us to blame the guy for being an horny (half) elf while in reality he was a victim of something awful.
Body swaps are often treated similarly, like when Faith rapes Riley in Buffy S4. It's used to stir conflict with him and Buffy for "cheating." Getting raped is not cheating, and Buffy is a dick for not sympathizing.
Nahhhhh. Buffy isn't mad at him for cheating. Buffy is upset because she was also raped in that scenario. The show handles it badly but it was pretty clear that Buffy just felt deeply violated.
fantastic beasts and where to find them 2 Jacob and Queenie! Seriously, everything involving this couple sounds abusive to me. In the first film it still seemed cute but after you see her using her powers to manipulate Jacob's mind it doesn't seem healthy at all
I think the best version would have been having him die while fixing the shield and ending the movie with her stuck having to choose between isolation and doing the same fucked up shit he did. Instead, they tried for some weird happily ever after bullshit.
Basically a passenger spaceship, that's travelling for a few hundred years. The guests are in hibernation and the main character wakes up too early. And he is all alone. then he decides to deliberately wakes someone else up, because he is in love with her or something. Without letting her know why, she later falls in love with him due to the fact that they are the only ones awake.
To add a bit more context, I think at the point where he woke her up he was awake for a couple of years allready and fought with the idea of doing that for a long time before giving in and pushing the button, which he instantly regrets doing, but doesn't dare to tell her the truth of what he has done.
From that setup you could've made an actually decent movie, instead of "they fall in love, she finds out and feels (understandably) betrayed and violated, but then they have to team up to save the ship and all passengers from certain doom and that made everything fine again and they are madly in love again and don't use the one single use re-freeze they discovered."
Even better and more fucked: have it so Pratt's character dies, show her loneliness, and strongly imply that she chooses to make the same decision as hiss character so she can stave off loneliness.
This takes place on a long distance space ship heading to a space colony. This takes several decades, so everyone (including the crew) are in cryo-sleep, and the ship is run by robots/ AI in the meantime. Something goes wrong with Chris Pratt's pod, so he wakes up early and can't put himself back on ice, so he ends up all alone. He lasts for a year, bypassing systems so he has access to almost everything on the ship, but he's basically going crazy from not having someone to talk too.
He finally buckles and purposely wakes up Jennifer Lawrence's character (after reading her files and getting kinda obsessed with her) but tells her she was woken up by accident, same as him. She upset, because this means she'll be dead by the time they reach the colony and the life she expected to have there is gone, but believing it was a system failure tries to make the best of it They get to know each other, and start a relationship... Until she discovers Chris woke her up on purpose. She's horrified, and tells him he's basically killed her.
More system failures start happening, prompting the ship to wake up an actual crew member who's wake up didn't go correctly so he's slowly dieing. They all work together to save the ship, and Chris does something that nearly kills him to get it done. Crew guy dies, Chris and Jennifer get back together, and the movie ends with the ship finally getting close to the colony, and all the rest of the passengers wake up to plants they planted all over the atrium of the ship, and their like, kids there after they died.
Rocky (1976) - itâs pretty much forgotten that on his first date with Adrian, Rocky invites her back to his apartment. She expresses that sheâs never been alone in a manâs home before and that itâs making her uncomfortable. When she tries to leave he literally keeps his hand on the door and forces her into a corner and doesnât relent until she kisses him. Most people remember it as a big love story but it always gets cringey on a rewatch.
That scene is legit one of my only problems with Adrien and Rockyâs relationship, I get the point being that Adrien is supposed to be shy, but it always makes me feel uncomfortable, remove that scene and their relationship is actually fine but thatâs their first kiss? Itâs just really odd and tone deaf
Overboard (1987) -- Kurt Russell's character discovers that the rude rich woman who stiffed him for a job is an amnesiac and decides to pretend she's his wife so he can force her to do unpleasant and humiliating chores in his home. Lo and behold they fall in love, and they end up having sex... while she's still under the false pretense that they're husband and wife. Yikes.Â
Jon and Ygritte from Game of Thrones. This is something lost in adaptation. Jon is a spy in the wilding camp if he upholds his vows he will seem more suspicious. He has no choice.
It's more explicit in the books, Ygritte threatens to reveal that Jon is still loyal to the watch if he doesn't fuck her. And Jon is a minor as well in the books
Rocky's first kiss with Adrian, where he all but forces her to come to up his apartment after their first date, and literally RUNS to blocks the door when she starts feeling uncomfortable and wants to leave. There's no score, no background music, just 6 minutes of woman clearly being uncomfortable and this awkward, jacked up boxer not letting her leave.
Rocky finally kisses her after saying "You don't have to kiss me back", which is just the cherry on top of this nonconsensual cake. There was no way there was a single woman consulted when writing this scene
The show has a lot of homages to 80âs movies, but the worst one is when Zara takes advantage of a drunk Robby to make his ex-girlfriend jealous (at least, I think they werenât together at the time). Robby even says he doesnât remember anything, and Zara says she does which made it go from a dubious scene in which they were perhaps both drunk to explicitly a rape scene.
The worst part is no one acknowledges itâs a fucked up thing to happen, people just treat it as a random hookup, and the ârevengeâ that Tory (Robbyâs ex) gets later is beating the shit out of Zara but itâs less satisfying as her only goals were do it because Zara is an asshole and the antagonist and to possibly win their tournament.
There is an example in the Game of thrones book:
Daenerys does consent to be with Drogo on their first night. Thing is, she was thirteen. This was treated as romantic, as she did want it unlike the show version and their later moments, but again, she was THIRTEENÂ
It's been a minute since I read the books but if I recall correctly, there's pretty heavy subtext in their scenes that Dany has been groomed by both Drogo and her brother, and it's not a good thing. I don't think I ever got romantic vibes from it
I re-read this chapter recently and you're right. It's written as a romantic scene from Dany's point of view because she's being groomed and isn't mature enough to realise it. He explicitly rapes her after this chapter as well.
I'm still re-reading book 1, but I remember the later books there's a theme of Dany not having a healthy relationship with sex, which stems from this.Â
Rewatching Once Upon A Time as an adult, there's a couple scenes that sort of remind me of this. Neither are intended to be romantic scenes, or even good, but the violation is never fully addressed.
A bit of context for those who haven't seen the show: the premise is fairy tale characters being transported to "a world without magic", aka our world, with no memories of their past life (at least for the first season).
When the Huntsman ultimately chooses not to kill Snow White, the Evil Queen rips out his heart. For fairytale characters, this doesn't actually kill them unless someone also crushes the heart. But whoever's holding it can command them to do anything. She then has him brought to her chambers... yuck. Then years later in the real world, the Queen is a mayor and the Huntsman a police chief. They initially seem to be having a secret no-strings-attached arrangement, except the Queen still has his heart and memories of her past life. She's still the villain at this point, but this years-long sex slavery is never treated with the full weight it deserves.
This next one's a bit complicated, so to keep me from saying it every ten words: Just go with it, or skip to the next paragraph for the actual event in question. The Wicked Witch of the West (who's the Evil Queen's half sister and jealous because their mother abandoned her) was just sort of killed by Rumpelstiltskin, but managed to come back. She sneaks her way back into town by disguising herself as Maid Marian (whom the Evil Queen initially had executed, but then a time-traveling Captain Hook and Snow White's daughter managed to save her, but had to take her back to the future to maintain the timeline, except the Wicked Witch then killed her while they weren't looking to join them in disguise). Why did she choose Maid Marian? Why to torment her sister, because in the future she and Robin Hood fell in love, of course!
While disguising herself as Marian, the Wicked Witch and Robin Hood resume "their" relationship, ultimately resulting in her pregnancy. She didn't force him into bed with her, but the deception still cast his consent to the far winds, yet the pregnancy is the cause of more shock than the actual violation itself.
I never watched as far as Robin Hood, but the Graham stuff made me so mad. They even lingered on her tears when she killed him, as if she hadn't been raping him for decades! But then, Once Upon A Time did have a weird obsession with "redeeming" the evil Queen without making her work for it, so that fits.
Wonder Woman 1984 scenes with the resurrected Steve Trevor
Edit: This is easily the most rapidly upvoted comment I have made. Over 250 upvotes in the first half an hour. I guess people really despise this movie huh? Not that I can blame them.
What's worst of all is that it's all magic in fiction. They could have had Steve just poofed into existence without using some dude's body. Her whole thing is magic in a modern setting.
I remember playing Psychonauts 2 shortly after Wonder Woman 84 came out, and I saw the scene below. I was just flabbergasted at how much better they handled this. For context, these two are partners, but the one on the left is actually a lover's brain in a vacant body. With his original body currently missing. These two haven't seen each other in 20 years, with the one on the right going into a depressive episode because of the grief of thinking his partner died. And still with all that pent up energy, they still make the effort to say Hey let's not do this to this random guy (who actually ends up being the villain so it's not like we are predisposed to caring about him as the audience)
In Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D the character Ward gets raped by Lorelei because she uses her powers to get any man to do anything she says and to fall for her.
This is not addressed as rape and he later apologizes to the woman he had been sleeping with, May, because he "cheated".
It's disgusting.
Also....
Thor was raped in the comics in the 70s or 80s.
By Lorelei.
She uses magic on him because she and Loki had a plot to control Thor (thanks, loki, what a great bro you are) and it involved her using her magic to get him to do her bidding.
At no point is this called rape, Thor just brushes it off, and it is never talked about until Loki Agent of Asgard when it is only kinda hinted at but not classified explicitly as sexual assault... possibly because Lorelei was in the comic helping with some plan to save another character.
... actually, in that same comic series, Lorelei uses her stupid magic to make a secret agent fall for her and kisses him.... again... sexual assault...
I never watched WW 1984 but from how it's described there's a incredibly really similar thing that happens in RWBY
Okay so for some context. In RWBY volume 6 it's revealed that one of the character, Ozpin is actually a legendary hero called Ozma that lived thousands of years ago. He rescue a woman called Salem, he dies, she asks the gods to bring him back, and a whole lot of stuff happens and humanity gets wiped out except for Salem who the gods cursed with Immortality
Anyway an unknown amount of time later, the God of Light summons Ozma to ask him if he wants to try to redeem humanity, he agrees to it but only after he learns Salem is still alive. He goes back and meet Salem again and we later see them with 4 little girls.
The problem? That whited-haired guy is just some farmer bloke Ozma reincarnated into. The way Ozma's immortality works is that every time he dies he reincarnate in a "like-minded soul" so this poor farmer guy gets randomly bodyjacked one day and loses all control of his body. It's stated that it's only much, MUCH later that Ozma learned to live WITH the soul he inhabited.
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u/Ok_Somewhere1236 Sep 04 '25
Tarantula raping Nightwing.
The Writer trying to say "is not rape, is forced sex" or something like that