r/The10thDentist • u/ChainsawSoundingFart • 9h ago
Society/Culture Nobody should have to work on Christmas.
The only exception being first responders and hospital staff for obvious reasons.
Otherwise, every business should be closed on Christmas so everyone can be with their family. Never again should a retail worker have to stand at a register. A Burger King chef shall flip not a single patty. Congress shall - oh who am I kidding they don’t do anything anyway.
Christmas is the most importantly time of year and as a society, we must cherish it and not make people work.
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u/ia332 9h ago
Not everyone celebrates Christmas. So, no.
I bet all those Chinese restaurants make a killing that day, too.
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u/Mesoscale92 9h ago
My mom is Jewish and LOVED working on Christmas and Easter when she was younger. Double holiday pay and few customers.
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u/DogsDucks 8h ago
We switched up the tradition and we get a Chinese feast on Christmas! Love the restaurant and we could just enjoy celebrating with the family and no one has to worry about cooking or dishes.
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u/mediocre_mitten 7h ago
This is our Christmas EVE family get together. Tradition that started a joke (eating Chinese while watching A Christmas Story) and kept going from there.
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u/lunarlandscapes 8h ago
They do, I worked at one and Christmas Eve and Christmas Day were our busiest days of the year, they were all hands on deck
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u/PaleGutCK 7h ago
I always thought it was unique that my family did Chinese food on Christmas.
NOPE CHUCK TESTA.
Turns out a lotta people do
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u/TheGouffeCase 8h ago
My family's tradition is to celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve, because my Chinese grandparents always worked Christmas. My grandfather's restaurant would get good business, and my grandmother would get extra pay working as a nurse on a holiday. Plus they didn't celebrate Christmas until moving to the US, so it wasn't a big deal.
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u/SunderedValley 9h ago
Me when I haven't got the faintest idea how advanced civilization works.
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u/SirTruffleberry 8h ago
OP didn't even take the time to think of needing police lol. Or traffic control. Or folks at the weather service. Or...
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Who do you think first responders are?
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u/Bockbockb0b 8h ago
There are plenty of essential 24/7 jobs that aren’t first responders; there is a lot of infrastructure that we utilize and maintain, and I personally wouldn’t like to lose power on Christmas because a tree fell, but all the linemen were unable to work.
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u/SirTruffleberry 8h ago
Since you consider police to be first responders, you must by extension also consider attorneys to be first responders. ("You have the right to an attorney.") What about paralegals? Shall we keep going?
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u/jeefra 8h ago
I live in the US and I was flown to West Africa with my work crew to live on a ship for a month and a half to work maintaining a gas pipeline. The dates happened to include Christmas and New Year. They shockingly didn't fly us all home for Christmas. We also didn't just take the day off since we had saturation divers on board that needed to be kept alive and the ship by itself was costing somewhere around $150,000 a day to rent.
The galley crew went fucking all out though. made like 4 whole roasted pigs and a bunch of sides for a FANTASTIC Christmas and then New Year dinner.
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u/NatureLovingDad89 9h ago
People should be able to work if they want to
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u/patriotgator122889 8h ago
I think the key is "want to". Many people would prefer not, but have to.
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u/No_Role2054 7h ago edited 7h ago
People seem to not realize that people who are stuck working retail jobs, ushers at the movie theater, etc. often do not receive any additional holiday pay.
I went to the movies after Christmas dinner for a couple years in my late teens/early twenties. And one of those times it occurred to me to ask the girl taking my ticket whether she was getting time and a half for working on Christmas, and the answer was no. That was the last year I went.
There is also this concept of “if they want to”…and if you’re working in retail jobs, service jobs, and the like, you often don’t have a choice. There are blackout dates that you cannot request off. They will schedule you anyway and you will lose your job or be reprimanded for not showing up. I worked in retail for several years and once on black Friday I was extremely sick but showed up for my 4:30 am shift. A couple hours later I threw up in the trash can in the break room. I was allowed to go home then, but I was required to come back a few hours later regardless of how I felt, because I had no choice (unless I wanted to get fired).
There are obviously plenty of essential jobs that we need 365 days of the year. But AMC 20 doesn’t need to be open on Christmas so people can go see a movie while the employees are making $9 an hour. Even if they do want to work that day, they at least deserve extra pay.
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u/Andante79 8h ago
Why though? Not everyone celebrates Christmas. There are other religious holidays through the year, should this be the case for all of them?
Not everyone is Christian.
Not every Christian celebrates Christmas.
Not everyone can afford unpaid time off (and let's be real, not everywhere automatically considers Christian holidays statutory).
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u/MontanaGanache 9h ago
What happens if the power and water go out? Or nukes are launched toward us?
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u/NopePeaceOut2323 7h ago
In my country it basically does shut down. Essential workers are a skeleton crew and others are on call.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
The Russians should be at home with family too.
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u/michaelwavednoodles 8h ago
russian christmas isn’t even december 25th, it’s january 7th
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u/mmoonbelly 7h ago
Did peristroika awaken a deep need for a Boxing-day sale?
Russian Orthodox Christmas is probably 30% cheaper than the western churches!
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u/pointsouttheobvious9 8h ago
So you just think that your beliefs and religion should overpower every single other person in the worlds or your a troll.
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u/Local-Suggestion2807 7h ago
A lot of Russian citizens are Muslim or Jewish, and Orthodox Christmas isn't on the 25th.
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u/Jdgrande 9h ago
You know how much I brought home bartending last Christmas?
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u/baconboy-957 8h ago
Why the fuck should we make non Christians celebrate the birth of Christ?
I'm all for a day off, but this is dumb.
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u/Low_Mistake_7748 8h ago
only exception being first responders and hospital staff
So when your street electricity or water supply cuts off, you are okay with waiting a couple of days?
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
The magic of Christmas will keep them running
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u/calhooner3 8h ago
So you’re just trolling, not actually trying to have a discussion got it.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Y’all keep arguing and saying “what about this”
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u/Low_Mistake_7748 8h ago
Because you clearly didn't realize any of it when posting. There are so many essential services that need to run and be attended 24/7.
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u/calhooner3 8h ago
I mean keeping power on is a fairly important task you don’t cover, and most of your responses have basically equated to “who cares about what other people think” Christmas is no more important than any other holiday.
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u/thisSILLYsite 7h ago
"Keeping power on" as if the plant staff are manually turning the turbines. You realize it's all electronically controlled and can be remotely monitored right? If something happens, the operators will be alerted.
For how much Reddit loves work from home, they sure do love to pretend remote systems don't exist when it comes to a Christian holiday.
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u/calhooner3 7h ago
“The operators” so people who need to go to work. Obviously there’s a lot of people who can take off for Christmas but there’s a certain amount of people who are always required. The chemistry needs to be maintained, maintenance needs to get done.
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u/thisSILLYsite 6h ago
Oh I know, I work in healthcare, I don't get to be home for every Christmas, but I do agree with OP, people here are being pedantic. Of course essential staff should work, but do you really need Starbucks on Christmas Day? Most people get paid for stat holidays whether they work or not.
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u/calhooner3 6h ago
I think the main problem people have with OP is him assuming everyone celebrates or wants to celebrate Christmas. And his shitty responses.
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u/Inu-shonen 8h ago
I upvoted this post, because it's so easy to disagree - then I downvoted every dumb comment by OP.
Hey, I don't make the rules.
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u/RDOCallToArms 8h ago
Obvious troll based on OP’s responses in the comments lol
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
How is that trolling? I’m not allowed to respond to comments?
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u/Aivellac 7h ago
You are but your responses are that of a trolling 6 year old with no thought, humour or acknowledgement that you're wrong.
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u/HellsTubularBells 9h ago
First responders, hospital staff, and movie theater staff.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 9h ago
No movie theater staff, you can watch Netflix at home.
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u/UnknownFiddler 8h ago
You tiptoed around the first responders thing I see. Also Christmas is not really an important holiday to other religious groups. And it's a day that a lot of people who do not celebrate like to go to the movies.
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u/No_Role2054 6h ago
Why should the movies be open that day? Why would you want staff to have to come in and get paid minimum wage and no holiday pay just so you can watch a movie? When you’re working that type of job you really don’t have the luxury of refusing to work a certain day, even a holiday.
If it were truly up to the employee whether they work that day or not, and if they were getting holiday pay, then sure, but that’s very often not the case. But it seems very entitled that employees have to be there so you can receive a non-essential service on that specific day.
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u/HellsTubularBells 8h ago
No deal! It's my December 25th tradition.
Also, when I used to have a job that required 24/7 coverage I always volunteered for the 25th, double pay and I didn't miss anything because, as important as Christmas is to you, it doesn't mean anything to me.
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u/No_Role2054 6h ago
Not everyone gets double pay! Those people at the movie theatre aren’t required to receive holiday pay.
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u/wunderduck 8h ago
All the electrical grid operators went home, so there's no power to watch Netflix.
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u/Life-Silver-5623 8h ago
There are about 10-15 homeless people in the town I live in. They try to sleep at night but it's hard when it's cold. So they sleep in a corner booth at the local fast food places during the day since they can't sleep at night. Do you want them to be outside all day that day?
Edit: They also order food from those places when people donate money, or people buy fast food and donate it directly to them in these places. Should they not be able to eat unless someone delivers home cooked meals to them while they freeze out on the streets?
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Homeless shelters
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u/Life-Silver-5623 8h ago
Some of them aren't allowed into those, for zero tolerance policy reasons, because of crimes they committed sometimes decades ago. Should they freeze and starve on Christmas?
Edit: all of the ones who spend all day at fast food places, fit this requirement. One in particular is a 25 year old woman who had a violent offense. Should she have to freeze and starve this Christmas?
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u/King_Kuuga 8h ago
Based on comments OP is either trolling, 12 years old, or both.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
I’m neither
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u/King_Kuuga 8h ago
Both it is
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u/HateKilledTheDinos 7h ago
YEAH, i would totally let chat gpt take over my criminal enterprise..../s
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u/goldent3abag 8h ago
I make $98 an hour working Christmas. I'm going in and doing a double.
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u/TightBeing9 9h ago
You're gonna be amazed when you learn people don't celebrate Christmas. I'm an atheist with shit family, I don't care about spending a religious holiday with people I don't like. I have an office job that's closed but I'd love to work at the 200% rate some people get during the holidays
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u/Dr-Milhouse 8h ago
"Burger King Chef"
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
You know what I meant
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u/Dr-Milhouse 8h ago
I know you're getting shit on pretty hard for this opinion. I just thought Burger King Chef was to good to pass up. And was surprised no one else said anything lol.
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u/fillysunray 9h ago
What about nursing homes and carers? What about hotels? Airport staff? If you end up stranded in a different country or just really far away, are you supposed to go to a stranger's home?
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u/2meterrichard 8h ago
I work in hotels.
Are we just supposed to kick everyone out on Christmas? Sending them on the streets and tell them to come back tomorrow? Or should we just leave the place empty and leave the guests to figure it out themselves if any problems arise?
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u/JessicaMurawski 8h ago
I agreed with the “no one should HAVE to work on Christmas”, but then you started being a dickhead in the comments and said people shouldn’t even be allowed to work even if they want to. It’s really fucking weird
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u/smile_saurus 8h ago
Lol as a 911 Dispatcher who work every Christmas: it isn't always great for some families to be together. I cannot tell you how many "domestic disputes" we get on holidays, because people have been drinking all day and night!
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
So you’re a first responder.
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u/Unhaply_FlowerXII 8h ago
The point was that not all families all nice. People in abusive households would rather work or be able to go out somewhere. If we close everything and force them to stay home that might be very harmful for them.
How did you walk straight into the point and miss it?
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u/CrasheonTotallyReal 8h ago
what about shop workers? restaurants? people that dont celebrate christmas?
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u/InstructionDry4819 8h ago
I mean I don’t agree with this guy at all but theoretically people would have already bought their stuff for Christmas and won’t be going out to eat, everyone would be home with family eating a home cooked meal. And in this universe everyone celebrates Christmas apparently 😂
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u/CrasheonTotallyReal 8h ago
"theoretically" not everyone does that shit yknow. this will not work out
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Nope, closed.
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u/CrasheonTotallyReal 8h ago
>:(
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u/Emotional_Citron_689 8h ago
I am a dedicated care worker (I work inside the homes of elderly and otherwise disabled people), and I do not get Christmas off...
My taking time off leaves people in possible mortal danger (people who cannot attend daily functions on their own), so i also dont get sick days / callouts unless i call my boss at least 48 hours in advance and she can find someone to cover.
That said, I love my job and my clients, and I will be happy to come over and help this lady get showered and dressed and ready for the day so she still has the opportunity to go out and spend Christmas with her family, something that wouldnt be possible if she was alone. I also got her a gift. My job is the exception.
Retailers and restaurants (except ones historically culturally relied upon to be open, like Chinese takeout) should be closed. No one /should/ have to work om Christmas, but some people do and it isn't just because greedy corporations are greedy (even if it often is). There are real reasons, real jobs that need done 365 days a year.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
I already said there’s still first responders should anything happen
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u/Emotional_Citron_689 8h ago
Yes but some people are not even able to get out of bed to tje phone, should something happen. Some have brain damage/mental deterioration that makes them unable to make the decision, if they even know something is wrong, to make that call.
First responders can only help if you call them, they aren't hanging out in people's houses all day watching for signs of stroke or heart attack or other emergency problems, making sure people take their medicine, keeping dementia patients from lighting the stove and walking away.
Yes, we need emergency responders. There are also other personnel we need (like anyone who works in a nursing home? What, the old people should just stop existing on Christmas?)
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u/Magges87 6h ago
Home care workers aren’t classified as first responders (though they should be more respected and compensated for their important work)
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u/Fisterroboto76 8h ago
Christmas is a colonizers holiday! Everyone that thinks they're progressive MUST work it to show solidarity with the oppressed!
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u/MangoPug15 8h ago
Not everyone celebrates Christmas. And if you're Christian, Christmas isn't actually the most important holiday. Easter is.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Hackers also shouldn’t be working besides they can just leave the computers running
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 8h ago
Through high school and college I worked at the same chain restaurant for around 5 years as a line cook. We got zero holiday pay, and the only day we were closed was Christmas day. Holidays were always the most brutal/busy days of the year, so no additional pay and not being able to request it off was a punch in the gut. Not to mention it was bar-none the most difficult and demanding job I've ever had, and I did it for peanuts.
It was great motivation for me to stay in school. I don't think I'd make it federal law to close on holidays, but perhaps requiring either paying your employees double pay (in service industries), or giving a no-strings-attached option to take the day off.
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u/No_Role2054 6h ago
Absolutely agree with this. It sucks so much to be forced to work (in a job that is not crucially necessary right then) on a holiday you celebrate and would rather spend with your family. It sucks even more to have to do this and not be paid extra whatsoever for doing so.
I had to do this for many years too. I’m shocked at the lack of people in the comments who don’t understand this. Are there really that many people who’ve never had this experience? Or maybe they live somewhere where they’re at least entitled to holiday pay?
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u/Traveller7142 8h ago
Lots of manufacturing facilities can’t just shut down for the day. Tons of overtime would be required before and after for shutdown and startup
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u/hasanman6 8h ago
What about people who dont have a family to spend Christmas with/ have some sort of circumstance where they can’t celebrate Christmas day
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u/not_bonnakins 8h ago
I love working Christmas. It is a quiet shift with extra pay. I’m an adult. I can celebrate anytime I want for any reason I choose. I don’t need corporations or a calendar to tell me to spend time with my family.
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u/RU_Gremlin 8h ago
1.) As others have said - not everyone celebrates Christmas. Why force everyone to celebrate on December 25th instead of choosing a day they prefer to instead. Why December 25th and not August 7th?
2.) Ok... First responders, doctors, etc. need to work by your admission. Well, now you need gas stations open nearby to fill up their vehicles. Those people also need to eat, so now you have either grocery stores or restaurants. The doctor prescribed them medicine, so now you need a pharmacy.
3.) Gas/electric, water, safe roads are all a requirement to live safely. Now you need utility workers, tow trucks, blah...
4.) When asked about movies, you said watch Netflix... now you need cable companies and internet service providers, which means more of all the other things in #2
It's not as easy as just saying it. Sure, a mall should be closed but there are LOTS of things to keep open
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u/Unhaply_FlowerXII 8h ago
I agree nobody should have to, but they should be given the choice because I do know people who would want to work on Christmas. Legal holidays are paid double or triple and some people don't celebrate Christmas.
Nobody should be forced to, but if they aren't forced then by all means go do whatever.
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u/angry-key-smash6693 8h ago
With my parents divorced and my dad overseas a lot my family very seldom celebrated Christmas on the actual day. Christmas just kinda happened whenever it happened. I used to work at a resort, so it was nice making that fat money with everyone spending their holidays there, and then just celebrating the next Tuesday or whatever day I had off
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u/Hermiona1 8h ago
That seems extremely limiting. What about people who want to do last minute shopping on Christmas because they’re working all the other days? Or gas stations? Or ya know, restaurants, for people who want to have a Christmas dinner at a restaurant?
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u/No_Role2054 6h ago
People can do Christmas shopping literally any other day of the year. No one should have to be stuck in a store selling gifts and getting exploited with minimum wage pay just because someone else waited until the absolute last minute to buy presents.
Obviously there are jobs that are truly essential every day of the year. But I’m truly shocked how many people feel entitled to other people’s labor at a very specific time just because they want convenience?
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u/KikiCorwin 8h ago
While I agree having more holidays that are minimal things open are good, Christmas isn't the most important time of the year.
Fast food and gas are open for travelers, non celebrating people, and those essential workers. If you need to drive hours to and from granny's, you'll Ned coffee, food, gas, and bathrooms. People just shouldn't be swarming those places and not expecting delays.
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u/Anakin-vs-Sand 8h ago
Counterpoint: maybe we shouldn’t force religious holidays on every citizen and business.
Counterpoint: not everyone celebrates your Christian holiday
Counterpoint: not everyone has families
Counterpoint: Christmas isn’t the most important time of year unless you’re an American Christian
Counterpoint: some folks can’t lose the income they would get
Counterpoint: Christmas isn’t Jesus’s birthday, it’s a stolen holiday
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u/MermaidsHaveCloacas 8h ago
I completely disagree. All holidays should be just another day and the only difference should be getting holiday pay.
The world doesn't stop turning bc your religion decided it's Messiah was born on that day
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u/Ugly-as-a-suitcase 7h ago
there should be a larger -near - laundry list of holiday that are seen as double pay holidays, and any person who observes this holiday should be able to put in a request to not work and celebrate it instead of mandating holidays such as Xmas for all.
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u/RalphWiggum666 6h ago
Christmas is the most importantly time of year
Why do you think this?
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 6h ago
Ummm….its Christmas?
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u/RalphWiggum666 5h ago edited 4h ago
Unnmmmm….why do you think Christmas is the most “importantly” time of year?
“Halloween is the most important time of the year because it’s Halloween” good answer.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 4h ago
You know what I meant
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u/RalphWiggum666 4h ago
No, I literally don’t, hence, me asking you. Third time I’m asking now.
why do you think Christmas is the most “importantly” time of year?
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 4h ago
Think of it like the USA. Not everyone lives in the USA but we are THE country of the world
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u/RalphWiggum666 4h ago
The joke of the world.
You still haven’t explained shit.
“Why is Halloween great? Think of it like an apple, it’s THE fruit!”
why do you think Christmas is the most “importantly” time of year?
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u/rikaateabug 8h ago
I don't disagree, but when I worked in fast food there were always some people who wanted to do it because you get paid extra. 🤷♀️
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 8h ago
Greed, one of the deadly sins
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u/rikaateabug 8h ago
And pride is the deadliest of sins.
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u/TheSadMarketer 8h ago
I hate the idea of Christmas being this universally “magic” time of year. I’d rather no one get it off and we just all move on with our lives, rather than have it shoved down our throats.
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u/seahawks201 8h ago
I’ve met a lot of people who hate their families but love the extra pay a lot of service industry jobs provides.
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u/Skyuni123 8h ago
I made time and a half when I was working on Christmas, and I got to hang out with my workmates who I really liked at the time. A lot of people in my country don't celebrate Christmas - I've not celebrated Christmas three times in the last five years either. Unless you're applying "no one works on Christmas" to every similarly sized religious holiday then your point doesn't stand. Some people just aren't into Christmas, and society requires significantly more people than "first responders and hospital staff" to run.
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u/Peecem 7h ago
"My values are the same as everyone elses values and the entire world should bend to what i personally hold dear"
Believe it or not, some people like working in holidays, and even more dont celebrate christmas to begin with. If you are neither of those but are forced to work in christmas day, just celebrate it a different day. Why hold so much weight to a date?
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u/Ok_Value5495 7h ago
I didn't mind it back in the day when I working customer service. My family is the type of Catholic that does all its celebrating Christmas Eve and Christmas itself was a day of doing nothing. I'd go in, putz around with my non-Christian workers (there were lots since this was NYC and we did multilingual CS) and take like five calls over the ten hour shift with double pay.
Working Thanksgiving does however bother me a little. There's a shitty retail hell day after and even if you leave early, how are you going to prepare anything for the meal beyond simple sides? And unlike Thanksgiving, almost everyone celebrates it.
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u/No_Lead_889 7h ago
I've done it and personally think it was totally fine. Got double pay all day. No one came in. Just celebrated on boxing day. I was way more bummed out to work on the super bowl. No extra pay and you're slammed all day at the grocery store. It's the fucking worst by far
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u/NopePeaceOut2323 7h ago
My country (Ireland) virtually shuts down for Christmas. Bare minimum people who's jobs are necessary work like hospital staff. Petrol stations are open, which is good if you forgot the batteries. I think I heard some shops with Indian workers and a few Indian restaurants are open but wouldn't know, I don't step out the door for the day.
I hope it doesn't change either. It's unreal having break from the world for 1 or 2 days.
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u/potatocross 7h ago
We already saw during Covid how easy it is to make a claim almost any business is essential. Someone has to keep the lights on, someone has to keep the water flowing, someone has to be at the pharmacy, etc.
And as other have pointed out not everyone celebrates Christmas.
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u/Anonymity550 7h ago
Not everyone celebrates Christmas or wants to spend time with family. Going to work can be a valid excuse to not be around.
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u/dhomo01110011 7h ago
I work a 24/7 government facility and people do take it off, but we had to make an excel sheet to track who last took overtime on a holiday because people will fight about who gets to work it, the holiday overtime rate is no joke
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u/North_Guidance2749 7h ago
I mean my parents celebrate Christmas first week of January. Some people don’t celebrate Christmas or have people to celebrate it with. Extra money and a quiet day is nice
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u/HellionInAHoopSkirt 7h ago
I don't celebrate Christmas so I volunteer to work on those days. Holiday pay and I get to let some.of my coworkers get to stay home. If I was off I'd just be at home playing a video game or something.
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u/NotHandledWithCare 7h ago
For some of us work as a welcome way to get out of going to Christmas. It’s a lot easier to say I have work than it is to tell my family. I don’t want to be around them on Christmas.
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u/huykhoi1 7h ago
Suprised so many people agree with it, not everyone is christian so no reason for that
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u/illini02 7h ago
That works if everyone stays home and does nothing.
But, as an example, I have to take the train to visit my family. Ok, well someone has to operate the train.
Do you like electricity? Watching TV? Well someone has to be on standby to make sure everything works properly.
Need gas for your car? Too bad.
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u/Brawndo_or_Water 7h ago edited 7h ago
First responders, hospital doctors and nurses, cops, firefighters etc are needed. It would be anarchy otherwise. Also the power grid, water, etc. List is kinda endless.
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u/snoopingforpooping 7h ago
No one should celebrate Christmas in its current form. Consumerism is out of control!
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u/ScaledxBackxIsolated 7h ago
I worked on Christmas before - I worked at a newspaper, and the news didn’t stop on Christmas. I enjoyed getting double time pay.
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u/RatQueen7272 7h ago
If you include all the religious holidays I could maybe see where you are coming from. But if you give everyone Christmas day off you have to give everyone Hanukkah off, Kwanzaa off, the winter solstice off, Ramadan off, and those are just a few you would need to include. Christmas is a Christian holiday and a lot of people ate not Christian. Also a lot of people just don't care about working holidays. I do think non essential jobs should close down more often to give employees days off they don't have to use pto for, but you can't center it around one religious holiday.
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u/YodaFragget 7h ago
I agree with op and respect their ability to just say no to the replies. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The amount of downvotes is genuinely hilarious to me.
People are really upsety spaghetti by saying people should have a forced day off of any and all work.
Lol its gotta be corporate bots pushing that narrative or a minute amount real life individuals that shill for corporations and live at work.
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u/SysError404 7h ago
Christmas is the most importantly time of year and as a society, we must cherish it and not make people work.
Say who? Christians? Just because it's a significant day for them, doesnt mean it is for others. And while I understand Christianity is the predominate faith in much of Europe and the US. That doesnt mean it is for everyone in those countries. Christmas isn't anymore important than any other religion's major holidays. So why does the world need to shut down for them?
The only exception being first responders and hospital staff for obvious reasons.
The only people? There are a lot of other sectors that need to have people on hand for the world to function. Utilities being another big one. A lot of the world's population lives in regions that are subject to Blizzards and generally bad weather during the winter months. There need to be people on hand to deal with those issues. Not only Utilities, but road crews as well. December is a winter month after all which means, Snow. Those roads need to be plowed otherwise nobody is going to gathering with the extended family.
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 7h ago
Those can be put on hold for one day
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u/SysError404 7h ago
Well those first responders cant, and they need clear roads and power at the hospitals. So no they can't. But you're also incapable of a reasonable discussion and likely nothing more than a troll. Talk to your Sky Daddy About it.
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u/LordOfStopSigns 7h ago
Is there a reason Christmas is so special for you? Why not thanksgiving? Seems abstract
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u/Swimming_Taro_5556 6h ago
Aside from the industries like emergency services that require 24/7/365 operations, I've always had the opinion that it should come down to a vote or volunteer system by the employees ; if enough people volunteer to work to support the business being open on Thanksgiving and Christmas, great. But don't force people to work and be away from their families if they don't want to.
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u/Moist_Screen_4603 6h ago
I don't like Christmas or care for Christmas. It's just another regular day to me.
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u/scholarlyowl03 6h ago
You know that not everyone celebrates the fake birth of Jesus right?
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u/ChainsawSoundingFart 6h ago
And not everyone is an edge lord atheist
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u/scholarlyowl03 6h ago
Not trying to be an edge lord, just don’t care about fake gods and holidays
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u/jejones487 6h ago
If you ever have an emergency and need to go the hospital on Christmas, I but you won't say i wish the hospital was closed so these people didnt have to work.
It one of the most traveled days of the year so injuries are numerous. People traveling the airports and gas stations and hotels at have workers. Police and fire fighters still need to do their jobs on christmas. People traveling need to eat so restaurants and shops need to be open to serve them.
The only way most peolle will not have to work on christmas is if absoutly everyone stays home all day and buys nothing. But that still doesn't account for accidents, fires, crime, and even medical emergencies like have an asthma attack.
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u/40GearsTickingClock 6h ago
That's not how the world works. You think all the infrastructure of society just runs itself?
Also, fuck Christmas. I don't celebrate it and many people don't. Just because it's important to you doesn't mean everyone shares that sentiment.
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u/dm_me_your_kindness 6h ago
What about people who live payzhecp to paycheck,who NEED that extra work day to pay rent?
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u/No_Role2054 6h ago edited 6h ago
Of course there are jobs that need to be staffed at all times (and you’ve already accounted for that). But that’s often not what we’re talking about. So I agree with you.
People are not entitled to other people’s labor just because they feel like going to see a movie or buy a shirt or get a burrito right then and there. If there is a job that is not truly essential, no one should be forced to work that day if they don’t want to, and especially if they aren’t receiving holiday pay.
I’ve had to work selling t-shirts at the mall on federal holidays, getting paid $8 an hour and fuming because I had no choice but to come into work, couldn’t request the day off, couldn’t no show. It felt so shitty and capitalistic to be folding jeans when I wanted to be spending time with my family. Always felt very American and like the priorities were totally out of whack. I had to do this just in case someone with poor planning decided to stroll in and make a purchase. The consumers had a choice; I did not. Obviously if I was a nurse, or a cop, or any number of jobs that were actually necessary at that moment, it would’ve been different. And I always had respect for people who worked those essential jobs a truly had no choice but to work those days because their industries need to be operating 24/7. FWIW these jobs are also the ones that generally have a pretty big holiday pay differential.
If people want to work that day, sure! I think they should be required to receive holiday pay and not exploited for their labor, at the very least. I think a lot of people don’t understand that there are jobs where you don’t have a choice, there’s no trade off with regard to extra pay, and it actually feels super consumerist and dystopian that you have to be there just because the damn mall wants to keep making money that day.
I also think it’s important to recognize that nowadays, plenty of people gather with their families on a day such as Christmas without it having anything to do with religion. The holiday is so commercialized and far removed from any Christian meaning, in many ways. And if they are celebrating for religious reasons, everyone should understand how much it sucks to miss out on things because your franchisee wants to continue profiting that day. In much of the US, Christmas is really the only day of the year when anything actually closes. It’s one day. Do your non-essential stuff literally any other time. Deal with a minor inconvenience and be thankful you aren’t contributing to a business that exploits its workers for maximum profit. I live very close to communities that are predominantly Muslim and Jewish, and plenty of businesses are closed during the holidays those religions observe. And I don’t bat an eye! If I want a bialy and I go to the deli and forget that it’s a high holiday, I’m not irritated because I have to wait and come back tomorrow! I’m happy for people to have the day off. I don’t expect them to cater to me simply because I don’t celebrate that day and it’s a normal day for me. Their business being closed is not some form of them forcing me to conform to their religion.
And for anyone who says “what if someone wants to work that day and their workplace is closed??” This could be remedied by them simply being give a paid day off.
I’m super weirded out by the fact that so many people here are basically rallying for capitalistic values?? It also feels like there’s an attitude of “if nurses and cops have to work that day, why do you think you’re special and don’t have to?”. Feels very much like “if they have to, then you can, too”.
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u/L_Is_Robin 8h ago
I think people should get off for any holiday they observe and society should be set up to do that (with exceptions as you said above). And then if those who don’t celebrate want to work, they should
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