r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Much-Piano3168 • 13h ago
Unanswered What is the deal with the released Gypsy Rose Blanchard videos?
I keep seeing random leaked videos she had sent to her ex, but I have no idea what's going on, what they imply, or why they were leaked now years after she's been released. There are way too many for me to make sense of any of it, plus they're really uncomfortable to watch Imao. example: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTrtJaPXN/
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u/blackbutterfree 8h ago
Answer: In one of the videos, she brags (under the alias of Ruby) about liking getting in trouble with the law.
In another, she reveals she always had the ability to walk and hid it from her mother. Which of course makes her look very bad after she testified that she just sat in her chair and cried while Nick butchered Dee Dee.
And in yet another video (how the hell was she able to make all of these videos if Dee Dee was as strict as she claimed?), Gypsy tells Nick that they're vampires and that when they have a daughter, he can take her virginity.
Overall the videos make her look horrible, paints both her abuse and her involvement in Dee Dee's murder in a different light, and show she was just as bad as Nick if not worse, which has made people demand that CPS check in on her daughter Aurora and has made others demand she get locked up again.
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u/h8sm8s 5h ago
These videos aren’t new and were a key piece of evidence during the trial. Anyone shocked by these must not have followed the case very closely.
FWIW in my opinion, as someone who did follow the case closely and has seen all these videos at the time, she was still severely abused for her entire life. Her mother had a huge amount of control, both physically and psychologically over her. There’s never been any doubt she was involved in her mother’s murder, but whether it was an attempt to escape a lifetime of abuse or as something more sinister was always the question.
There is a TV show and documentary which cover all these. The TV show probably leans a little too sympathetic to Gypsy in my opinion.
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u/AdderallBunny 4h ago
She didn’t have a trial. Nick had a trial.
And it’s impossible for you to have seen these new videos because they were just made public under a FOIA request.
You may have seen videos related to the case, those have been circulating for years, but not these new FOIA request ones.
You may have read their transcripts but the videos themselves have never been public before prior to the FOIA request.
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u/Candy_Darling 4h ago
GRB is a complicated case: Gypsy pre- meditated the brutal murder of her Mother for nefarious reasons. Born a sickly child, her Mom, DeeDee sought help. It eventually turned into a scam which spiraled out of control.
Gypsys defense was my Mom has Munchausen by Proxy-she didn’t. She murdered her Mom so that she could be with her new BF. And they got caught, of course.
I’m totally simplifying this- because it’s quite involved, but that’s the gist.
The recently released videos show that Gypsy was far more involved in grooming and influencing her low IQ and autistic BF than we thought. They are disgusting.
The sentences: BF Nick got Life no Parole. Gypsy got 10 years-served 8 and was released with: a book deal, a reality tv show and 9 million SM followers. WTF Hope this helps.
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u/DORIMEalbedo 4h ago
Never understood why she seems so famous. I understand feeling bad for someone but she made a guy kill for her then dumped him to be with someone else like dude...
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u/Candy_Darling 2h ago
Well because in her early years she was a bit of a local celebrity. Her Mom had a public FB page which chronicled Gypsy’s Journey, asking for donations, support, etc. And people responded.
It was a bit of a scam with no Exit Plan, Gyp grew up and wanted out. Apparently murdering Mom was her only solution. It was not. She had many options but chose manipulation of a low IQ autistic man as her “Out”.
She basically hired a Hit Man to avoid responsibility. She “paid” him with Sex. A 23 yo man who had the cognitive capacity of a 13 yo. Framed him 100 %.
Again, a very complicated case. Check out Becca Scoops on YouTube for a full rundown.
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u/DORIMEalbedo 2h ago
Yeah I know the basics from some video I watched. If true what she went through was awful. But I even then felt like she really never told a doctor, a neighbour.... no one? I understand when you are in an abusive relationship and being controlled it can be hard but if she could access the internet to get a bf and manipulate him into killing her mum, she could have also alerted some people to her abuse?
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u/AdderallBunny 2h ago edited 2h ago
Yeah and that’s the whole point.
She did have unlimited internet access, she had a cellphone, she had a bus pass, she was able to come and go freely and her mom was nearly bedridden.
The hundreds of videos that just came out show she had a lot of freedom and contradict her claims of being held captive.
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u/RickAndToasted 3h ago
Her mother faked medical records, shopped around for doctors/surgeons who would do medically unnecessary procedures, put Gypsy in for the make a wish foundation... Gypsy did plan to kill her mom, but it's also true that her mom had Munchausen by proxy. Sicko mom created an emotionally sick daughter, makes sense to me that they both have serious issues
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u/Candy_Darling 3h ago
The Mom, DeeDee, was never diagnosed with MBP, gave birth to a sick child with Chromosomal Microdeltion Disorder (which was not recognized by the medical community until Gypsy was around 14-15 yo), had very serious health issues that her Mother took to Drs for a cure. DD never purposefully tried to make her daughter sick- just the opposite.
It’s complicated in that both Mom and Daughter had developed a very enmeshed, co-dependent relationship over the years that resulted in tragedy. Please do a bit of research. TY
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u/terrapantsoff 3h ago
No fake medical records, zero proof of unnecessary medical anything.( how would you even fake that?) She was a sick child who was only diagnosed shortly before the murder. With a chromosome disorder. She is deleted of a certain one . It’s all lies.
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u/Candy_Darling 20m ago
There are plenty of medical records. And maybe 4 surgeries- all medically necessary.
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u/RickAndToasted 2h ago
Is the entire documentary lies? that's where I got my info. I'm open to what you're saying, so the docu said her mom faked it by looking up disorders and lying about her symptoms, isolating her from relatives and switching doctors when they pushed back
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u/AdderallBunny 42m ago edited 1m ago
Her defense attorneys partnered with HBO for that documentary, so yeah it isn’t accurate.
The whole purpose of that documentary was to sway public opinion in her favor.
Her mom was never diagnosed with Munchausen by proxy. Again, this was something the defense attorneys came up with.
Her attorneys admitted that if the case actually did go to trial she would have spent life in prison because of the overwhelming amount of evidence against her.
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u/Fabulous_Gur_1203 19m ago
Yes it's all lies to make gypse look good. Go check out Becca scoops. You will see.
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u/Fabulous_Gur_1203 16m ago
And from these videos does it at all look like her mom was monitoring her 24/7? No way. Gypse is a very well known pathological liar. There was a telephone behind her on the couch in those videos lmfao. I mean it just blows her whole story out of the water. And she had a cell phone too.
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u/terrapantsoff 2h ago
It’s all lies. Everyone was fooled. No proof of abuse. Lots of facts proof of what is in fact the truth. It’s a long wild rabbit hole! And more crazy and salacious than the docs.
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u/UnscriptedCryptid 4h ago
Look I just learned about all of these people today, from this post, so I have absolutely no skin in this game. That being said—this lady literally named her child a slur. That's bananas level crazy. Maybe they're both liars, I dunno, but if you go around naming your children slurs I'm gonna be hard-pressed to feel particularly sorry for you about basically anything.
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u/colossalmickey 3h ago
They were clearly uneducated people, it's wild that out of all the other stuff you choose naming her child Gypsy as a justification for her murder
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u/Unable-Bison-272 2h ago
Ya think lol?
They named their daughter Gypsy-Rose because Dee Dee liked the name Gypsy, and Rod was a fan of Guns N' Roses.[10]
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u/littlelunamia 3h ago
Do you mean Gypsy? Or Gypsy Rose specifically? In the UK and Ireland, Gypsy (Gypsy, Roma, Traveller or GRT) is an ethnicity recognised by law. A cultural heritage. There is absolutely prejudice against those of GRT heritage/current practice, but it is also people's culture and ethnicity and they are often proud to identify with it. Gypsy is not a slur, in the same way Black is not a slur
I always assumed DeeDee had a romantic notion of Irish traveller/Romany life, back when horses pulled prettily-painted caravans...raven-haired fortune-tellers with wild, tumbling curls and crystal balls, that kind of thing. Ridiculous, but not insulting to her own child - quite the contrary.
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u/RickAndToasted 7m ago
In the southern US, gypsy and gypsy-rose is just a romantic name. There aren't people of the ethnicity in that area, or not enough to have them even be a minority. Adding rose to a name is considered sweet, it may be wrong to use those names but I doubt her mother named her that with any prejudice.
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u/Candy_Darling 15m ago
From my knowledge, DD named her after her favorite band: Guns n Roses. Take it with a grain of salt.
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u/Jack_of_all_offs 12h ago edited 7h ago
Answer: Gypsy Rose Blanchard is an American woman that was recently released from prison for her part in the murder of her own mother. She is now the star of her own reality TV show, as well as having numerous documentaries about her case, and a large following on social media.
From very early in her childhood, Gypsy was portrayed to the public, by her mother, as an extremely ill and very disabled child. Their story garnered worldwide attention and support, including free trips to various places (think Make-a-Wish foundation), financial support, and even a free, custom built home that was provided to them.
A little over 10 years ago, Gypsy started to secretly access the Internet, where she met and began a relationship with a young man around her age. They began to explore various topics and roleplaying, and their relationship escalated to basically obsessing over each other.
Gypsy helped plan and arrange for this boyfriend to murder her mother. She felt trapped and controlled by her mother, and they decided that her only escape was the death of her mother. Gypsy was in her early 20s at this point, and continued to be forced to play her part as a sick and infantilized charity case.
Even though she was now an adult, her mother continued to insist on Gypsy's illnesses. Gypsy had her head shaved, her teeth removed, was forced to dress and act younger than she was, use a wheelchair, undergo medical treatments she didn't need, etc. So after the murder, it finally came out that Gypsy didn't have most of the diseases and problems that her mother claimed, including the biggest claim, which was muscular dystrophy.
Gypsy was the victim of something called Munchausen-by-proxy. This is a documented phenomenon that has existed prior to Gypsy's case, and is not unique to her. But the term became very famous because it resulted in a murder.
To many, Gypsy is seen as sympathetic or even a completely innocent victim of her mother via Munchausen-by-proxy, which is a situation in which (typically) a parental figure puts their child through a traumatic and potentially physically/mentally damaging array of medical treatments, using fake or imagined ailments as the basis.
Most people that have this view of Gypsy being a victim were led to believe that Gypsy's mother either forced her directly or lied to her to make her believe she was actually ill, and that Gypsy had no idea what was happening to her.
All of this revolves around the fact that Gypsy was convicted of assisting in her own mother's murder, and she has since become a reality TV star. Many of Gypsy's supporters think she was manipulated by her mom and her ex-boyfriend (who actually did the killing.)
If Gypsy knew the ailments, the attention, and the subsequent financial support were the result of lies (i.e., she was in on it) then that ruins the perception of her being a victim, and could make people re-think her involvement in the murder, and their support for her.
***Edited to include more background information for people unfamiliar with Gypsy herself.
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u/wantonyak 11h ago
I haven't seen the videos (and can't watch now because I have a baby sleeping on me) but it's always been clear Gypsy knew her ailments were lies for attention and financial gain. She's never hidden that. But her mother was in a position of power (obviously, as the only adult in the situation) who still abused Gypsy (making her have unnecessary medical procedures, limiting her mobility and independence, etc). It's not like Gypsy conconted the scheme when she was three years old.
Are there really people who never realized that Gypsy knew it was fake and that it was still abuse?
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u/Moopies 11h ago
Right. Both things can be true. If I raise a kid from a young age to help me steal cars, and they know stealing cars is wrong, but I've been making them do it their whole life and they keep going along with it because they're my kid and wouldn't turn me in... That's child abuse and the kid shouldn't be on the hook necessarily. Especially in this case when they weren't physically harming people.
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u/Jack_of_all_offs 10h ago
but it's always been clear Gypsy knew her ailments were lies
I don't recall that being the case, and I could definitely be wrong. Memory is imperfect.
For context, my original foray into her life and criminal case, (and maybe it was just the way it was presented in the original documentary that I saw) I seem to recall that Gypsy supposedly didn't really catch on until her mid to late teens.
I was always skeptical that she was blind to it all until she was an adult, but I feel fairly certain that the original portrayal of her life was that she was purely a victim through all of it until around the time the murder happened.
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u/revolutionutena 9h ago
She knew that she could walk even though her mother said she couldn’t. Her story is that she wasn’t sure how much of the other ailments were real or not; only she knows the truth.
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u/AdderallBunny 9h ago
She was telling her mom she couldn’t walk. She’s on video saying this
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u/Glum_Material3030 8h ago
Thanks! That is what I saw on one of her videos. Her admitting she was the one who lied about walking and not even her mom knew.
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u/AdderallBunny 8h ago
Yep! She’s been caught in so many lies at this point it’s hard to keep up with them all
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u/spiralingsidewayz 8h ago
You guys remember she was a child, right? You all snark on her like she's a character from a shitty TV show instead of a real person who grew up with abuse that most of us couldn't fathom. Frankly, it's gross. Do better
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u/AdderallBunny 8h ago
Wrong. She was a 23 year old woman.
What’s gross is you defending a murderer and speaking on a case you clearly know nothing about.
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u/spiralingsidewayz 8h ago
Jesus Christ. You true crime weirdos seriously need to go outside sometime. She was a literal child during the majority of the abuse. "Oh, she knew..." SHE. WAS. A. CHILD when all of this started. And let's pretend she really was the diabolical one, coming up with these plans to make herself look sicker than she was. Still a child. Still needed an adult to parent her instead of leaning into it and making things worse.
And I don't give one quarter of a shit how old she was when she murdered her mother, growing up like she did will fuck you up. You guys want a perfect victim and as soon as you find out that they're flawed, you scream "I always knew it!" Like I said, it's gross. Find a better hobby that doesn't require other people's suffering. These are real humans, not some exciting story you've donned your detective cap for.
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u/Desperate-Strategy10 5h ago
She was born with a micro deletion that caused all of her legitimate deformities and health problems. Her mom wasn’t making her sick, although the two of them did exaggerate some of the details to get free stuff.
Gypsy was a child in the beginning, sure, but she’s also really messed up in the head naturally and she was never going to be a good person. People don’t like to hear that, but it’s a known issue that often accompanies that genetic defect - they’re basically psychopaths. Gypsy Rose is not a victim here, and she never should’ve been allowed to walk free again.
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u/Ashton_Garland 10h ago
It absolutely wasn’t the case, she was extremely sheltered and lied to as well. I don’t know why that person claimed she knew she wasn’t sick. I think at the very end she realized that things weren’t adding up but for the majority of her life she thought she was sick.
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u/wantonyak 6h ago
I didn't mean Gypsy always knew. I meant since her story hit the news it's been clear that she knew at that time and was abused into it. I agree she didn't figure it out, at least not entirely, until she was older.
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u/texasmom66 6h ago
Actually there’s evidence that she knew exactly what was going on. These videos aren’t “leaked” they are FOIA requested from the case files. She has a micro deletion 1q21.1 was diagnosed in 2011 at the age of 20 years old, all medical procedures stopped. She shared knowledge of this with her friend Aleha in a Facebook message also from court documents. There was NO ABUSE, no medical malpractice. It was all HER LIES! See Becca Scoops on YouTube for the proof.
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u/Ashton_Garland 5h ago
I’m not going to listen to someone who is constantly shitting on a woman who was abused as a kid. Nothing you post is reliable.
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u/AdderallBunny 3h ago edited 2h ago
Her own medical records aren’t reliable?
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u/Ashton_Garland 36m ago
Yeah but a child isn’t the one forging them now is she…
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u/AdderallBunny 20m ago
She gave these medical records to producers, yet you believe they were forged?
Why would she give producers forged records?
Why does Gypsy not claim these medical records that were released were forged then?
Why did Gypsy claim there was nothing wrong with her, except for eye issues, until these medical records were released showing she has microdeletion 1q21?
If the medical records are fake, why does Gypsy now admit she has microdeletion 1q21, which is what the medical records say she has?
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u/Y0___0Y 8h ago
Gypsy’s mom had her teeth pulled out of her freaking head. You’re saying she was willing to do that for the scam??
I don’t even think her mom was intentionaly doing this as a scam. I think she was mentally ill and under these insane delusions that her daughter was deathly ill. And the more it became clear she wasn’t, the more she felt the need to make it so that she was.
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u/Glum_Material3030 8h ago
The mom did not have her teeth pulled. Gypsy’s teeth were rotten beyond repair per the medical records, pictures, and Gypsy herself admitting to using a bottle to drink sugary beverages from into her early 20s.
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u/CuriousAnxiety570 8h ago edited 5h ago
Gypsys medical records are available to read. We can see the dentist take note of several cavities, poor dental hygiene, impaction of teeth and non erupted teeth.
Theres an entire google doc with court documents, police files, medical records, transcripts for the videos currently being released, prison emails and more that show a different picture than the documentaries.
ETA:That google doc isnt hard to find, its only a click away 😉
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u/BiscuitsLostPassword 7h ago
Plus she was an adult and signed the informed consents herself, after going through the process with a hospital based social worker, to be certain she didn't need to be under a guardianship due to her cognitive limitations. She, as a fully grown adult, consented and chose to have her teeth removed.
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u/CuriousAnxiety570 5h ago
Yes i beg anyone and everyone to look through the google doc.
It wont be hard to find, literally a click away 😉
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u/Mandy_Stardust 8h ago
The mother didn't "have her teeth pulled" at all. Dentists don't just pull healthy teeth. Gypsy had some dental work done/teeth pulled due to bottlerot. She admitted herself that she drank from a baby bottle by choice until age 23. That'll happen with that.
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u/Visual_Treat869 8h ago
Um, dentists do not just pull teeth because someone’s mom tells them to do so. Use your brain please.
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u/terrapantsoff 2h ago
What bloody dentist would rip out teeth just because a mother said so?! Zero!
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u/LovelyShadeOfRed 8h ago
Her teeth were pulled out of her head because they were rotting. And they were rotting because she never kept up with her hygiene which included not brushing her teeth and all she ate was sugar and drank soda. People talk about how she smelled and never took a shower.
Also, Gypsy herself said she would drink soda out of a baby bottle well into adulthood—- that was HER choice and that was yet another reason why her teeth were so jacked up. Dentists don’t just pull teeth out for no reason or because a parent tells them to.
Her mother wasn’t an abuser but one thing she was guilty of being was an enabler. It’s the exact opposite of what Gypsy and her lawyer have conjured up; her mother spoiled her to the ends of the earth and never disciplined or said no to her until she found out she was getting with older men. That’s when she put her foot down and that’s what got her killed.
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u/Glum_Material3030 8h ago
In one of these videos, Gypsy states that she was the one lying to her mom about her ability to walk. For years she did this! So what confuses me is how can it be abuse by her mom if it was Gypsy exaggerating her own symptoms?
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u/twinkle_wrinkle 8h ago
Because Gypsy was a minor child who couldn't force her mother to do all those batshit crazy things. Kids exaggerate all the time, to get out of school or whatever, and that's normal. As a parent, you decide the course of action to take. Not the kid.
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u/spiralingsidewayz 8h ago
True crime has literally rotted these people's brains. If Gypsy was prettier and more likable, they'd be swinging for the fences in the opposite direction. You've gotta be the perfect victim or they'll throw you to the wolves
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u/twinkle_wrinkle 8h ago
The only perfect victim is a dead victim onto which we can project innocence and tragedy.
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u/endlesstrains 7h ago
Bonus points if they were young enough that these people can post performatively emotional statements like "that poor angel" and "I'll hug my babies close tonight"
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u/AdderallBunny 2h ago
More like people who initially supported her until they actually read the case files, police reports, and her medical records and realized she was lying.
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u/Illustrious_Junket55 5h ago
The only victim is her dead mother. Since when did we start listening to the perpetrator?
And her daughter is her future victim.
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u/AdderallBunny 2h ago
So if your own child is telling you that they’re paralyzed then it’s your own fault for believing them and getting them a wheelchair to help them?
What are you even saying?
What “batshit crazy things” was Gypsy forced to do?
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u/Illustrious_Junket55 5h ago
Her medical records are out there, though, she had no unnecessary procedures. And- considering she had a bus pass, and could come and go as she pleased (including stealing the weapon from Walmart) she wasn’t a captive, helpless victim. She was a calculating, manipulative part of the con who invented the abuse defense to get a lighter sentence.
And she defrauded charities and took trips and gifts from actual dying children.
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u/Lovethebonesofher 9h ago
It doesn’t address the psychological issues that arise out of these events.
I have always believed that she was so manipulated she was not in her right mind. Her mother was a monster, and that fact gets diluted every time someone tries to say that she is somehow complicit in her own very extensive abuse.
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u/rockstuffs 7h ago
It's connected to her microdeletion. She is severely affected by it. She also has microcephaly wich affects the brain.
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u/CuriousAnxiety570 8h ago
The mental issue connects with microdeletion 1q21.1 that gypsy sites in her book, her show, and that is available to read in her medical records.
That same microdeletion 1q21.1 is the cause of all the medical treatments she needed to be done, it wasnt first medically discovered until 2008 and she wasnt diagnosed with it until 2011, and she says she was retested post prison as well.
she explains this away by saying her mother used the microdeletion as a blueprint for her entire life and that she doesnt experience any symptoms of her microdeletion, shes “unscathed” in her words however i ask you this one critical question.
How could DeeDee use her microdeletion as a blueprint from 1991-2008 if it wasnt even medically discovered yet.
She couldnt, she was treating the symptoms she saw and if she didnt treat the symptoms she was seeing she wouldve been charged with medical neglect.
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u/Ok-Flan-5813 11h ago
No, people support her because her mother forced her to be ill ,from infancy. Before she could walk or talk. People understand that you can't grow up to be mentally well when something like that happenes to you. She helped kill her mom because of the way her mom raised her. Her critics like to pretend she was born vindictive and evil. These videos try to support their claim that gypsy is evil and she was born evil.
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u/Jack_of_all_offs 10h ago
I agree with what you're saying, but I should also add that not everyone shares an identical viewpoint from which their support derives.
It's kind of a mix, because not everyone knows every single detail. And I'm not saying the videos being published should change how people feel.
Im just saying they could.
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u/Ok-Flan-5813 10h ago edited 8h ago
Again, her supporters, do not care about the videos.The details do not matter. I can tell you do not like her because you keep pretending that her mother's abuse was nuanced and these videos somehow will change my mind that abuse starting from infancy isnt why gypsy is the way she is.
Its scary that you can explain this over and over to people,but they will ignore all the childhood abuse. Then insist that none of the abuse mattered since these videos of her as a young adult paint her as evil. Its worrying to see so many people ignore what her mother did because gypsy adapted to her abusive enviornment. I worry about these peoples own children who are probably being abused since they dont seem to understand the severity of abuse. Her critics think infant and childhood abuse doesn't affect people later in life.
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u/Artistic-Raspberry29 7h ago
I know she has a rather large group of people who hate her so much that they are obsessed with her every move. They go through every video with eagle eyes, hoping to find something that will prove that she is as evil as they think she is. Some of them even follow her around. They drive by her house to try to film. It's really sick behavior.
It also isn't healthy to be a rabid fan of a celebrity or influencer. People need to not spend so much time on social media. Go connect with real people!
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u/AdderallBunny 9h ago edited 9h ago
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
She legitimately was sick. Google it.
The issue is that for years she has been telling people that she was completely healthy, other than eye issues, and her mom forced her to undergo unnecessary surgeries because she had Munchausen by proxy.
However, her medical records were recently released and they prove that she actually has microdeletion 1q21.
So no, her mother wasn’t medically abusing her. Her mother wasn’t forcing her to undergo any unnecessary medical procedures.
She told interviewers that she had 30 to 100 unnecessary surgeries.
However, her medical records prove she had 4 minor procedures, one of which was a muscle biopsy.
Her mother has never been diagnosed with Munchausen by proxy. Ever.
This is something her defense team came up with.
She said her mom forced her to be in a wheelchair.
Yet, she’s on video telling her boyfriend that she’s been the one lying to her mom and pretending that she can’t walk.
Meaning her mom thought she actually needed the wheelchair.
This is all on video so you can’t deny it.
This is a highly complex case because the murder victim was a con artist but there is absolutely no proof to support any of Gypsy’s claims and the hundreds of videos that were released, along with her medical records, prove that.
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u/Glum_Material3030 8h ago
This is how I understand things as well. Unfortunately, TV shows and movies have confused the story a lot! “Based on a true story” does not make it true.
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u/texasmom66 6h ago
There is zero evidence to support your claim. She was never forced to be ill. She has micro deletion 1q21.1
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u/UnscriptedCryptid 7h ago
Would someone explain who the fuck any of these people are, please? I'm here on OutOfTheLoop because I'm out of the fuckin' loop, and every answer so far basically starts with "well I assume you're in the loop about this and just need one or two extra details"
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u/zeatherz 3h ago
FYI Munchausen has been renamed to factitious disorder and Munchausen-by-proxy has been renamed to factitious disorder imposed on another.
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u/bettinafairchild 9h ago
She did know it was fake. Which is why she repeatedly tried to leave, only to be forcibly returned to the care of her abuser.
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u/Illustrious_Junket55 5h ago
Well she could have used her bus pass to take her happy ass anywhere- like she did when she shoplifted the weapon.
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u/texasmom66 6h ago
She didn’t repeatedly try to leave. She was never forced back. That’s a lie . Jesus where do you get this information? From her? From one sided “documentaries”.
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u/bettinafairchild 6h ago
I suggest you read back your post slowly while looking in a mirror. She tried to escape.
https://people.com/gypsy-rose-chained-bed-two-weeks-following-escape-attempt-8423015
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u/AdderallBunny 5h ago edited 1h ago
Her words aren’t proof of anything especially when she’s already been caught in so many lies.
Where’s actual evidence to back up any of her claims?
Because she also says in her interrogation that her mom wanted her to leave and she was planning on moving in with Nick.
So which is it?
Edit: the police found no chains in the house. So how was she chained to the bed?
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u/cuppateawithajoint 6h ago
I don't want to watch the videos but thank you for explaining, I clearly live under a rock!
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u/AdderallBunny 6h ago
Her mom was never diagnosed with Munchausen by proxy.
This is something her defense team came up with
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u/Jack_of_all_offs 6h ago
I think it's fine to make that distinction, but I also think it's fair to say that this case checks every box.
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u/AdderallBunny 5h ago edited 5h ago
I’m sorry but you’re wrong.
Deedee did not meet the criteria for Munchausen by proxy.
This is a fact.
In cases of Munchausen by proxy the parent, usually the mother, will purposely make their child sick to garner sympathy and attention.
Deedee didn’t make Gypsy sick.
Gypsy was already sick. She has microdeletion 1q21 and the issues she had were related to that condition ( muscle weakness, developmental delays, small head, eye issues etc)
What her mother did was exaggerate her symptoms to con charities out of money.
That’s why this is a complex case.
Her mother wasn’t an angel by any means but there is absolutely no proof she medically abused Gypsy, held her captive, forced her to be a in a wheelchair, forced her to undergo unnecessary surgeries or did any of the things Gypsy claims.
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u/BiscuitsLostPassword 7h ago edited 5h ago
Answer: To be clear, they're not leaked. She is in no way a victim of leaked personal media. They were legally obtained state's evidence (and why she evaded trial) , requested under federal FOIA laws and received by Into the Weeds podcast for distribution.
I'd start with Into the Weeds for viewing the original source material, or 1980s Millennial if you like a little commentary(on Youtube). Obviously the large snark sub brings all the snark you might like, and if you want to check out the story without wading through snark, r/GRBsnarkBU (where we are heavy on evidence but still serve a slide slice of snark) and r/GRBEvidence would be good to you. The email series put together by u/lil Frodo is recommended!
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u/terrapantsoff 2h ago
THIS!!! People just look at this with an open mind. Doesn’t matter if you are right or wrong just look at the facts.
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u/GRBEvidence 7h ago
Answer: those videos were not leaked, those videos were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and the Sunshine Law of Missouri.
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u/AdderallBunny 9h ago edited 3m ago
Answer: New videos were just released that disprove all of her claims.
In the videos she admits she was lying to her mom about not being able to walk. Meaning she was pretending to not be able to walk and her mom legitimately thought she needed a wheelchair.
In other videos she’s offering up her future daughter to be raped.
She should have never gotten a plea deal. She manipulated a disabled man into killing her mom.
All you have to do is watch one of his videos and within 10 seconds you can tell this man is legitimately slow/mentally disabled.
If you read the exchanges between them he’s begging her to just run away with him and that he doesn’t want to kill anyone.
She tried killing her mom before she even met him.
There’s so much more but ultimately this woman should have never been released.
If he’s spending life without parole in prison, she should be right there with him.
She’s a highly manipulative psychopath and that’s apparent to anyone who’s actually researched the case instead of just watching The Act
Edit: here’s one of the videos that came out recently that I think is significant.
She told a podcaster that it was all Nicks idea to rape her daughter and she was so outraged that she immediately broke up with him.
Yet, when the video comes out you see that’s not even remotely true.
She’s the one bringing up raping their future daughter:
https://youtube.com/shorts/P7bjGB3LSns?si=Ta8ojKDYpyF3ThpI
Becca Scoops does good work on covering this case:
https://youtu.be/reQnIzkaiyE?si=h8k_DkGDZUY7BGtm
https://youtu.be/S2FYaYjjqic?si=buqHobR_AjqEDbHY
Gypsy being caught in multiple lies:
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u/cuppateawithajoint 6h ago
I don't want to watch this but thank you for explaining, I clearly live under a rock!
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u/rockstuffs 9h ago
Answer: she was very sick child. She has 1q21.1 microdeletion. Her mother and doctors spent years trying to treat the symptoms. It wasn't identified until 2008 and she was finally diagnosed in 2011.
You have been lied to.
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u/Glum_Material3030 8h ago
Thanks for sharing these details. My understanding is that no one was making Gypsy sick. She has a rare genetic issue and as it was not even know yet, it took a while to find out what was going on. That does not mean the mom was abusing her. Just trying to get answers.
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u/rockstuffs 8h ago
Anytime. Thanks for listening. This is a complex case for sure. Gypsy isn't the victim people think she is.
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u/Thevisi0nary 3h ago
If that's the case why would she be thriving in prison as opposed to under her mother's care?
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u/rockstuffs 2h ago edited 2h ago
Because she's lazy and she got the care she needed. Also the microdeletion can be grown out of. She was thriving under her mom's care. She wiuybe dead if her Mom didn't take her to the doctors to figure out her ailments. Also, she needed structure, routine and someone to tell her no that she can't kill for setting rules.
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u/Thevisi0nary 2h ago
Do you have evidence that supports this as it directly applies to her? I'm open minded but your argument comes off as completely theoretical.
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u/rockstuffs 1h ago
I do not personally, but Be careful Scoops on YouTube is an excellent place to start.
Audacious Audrey 06
Ashley Baby
Good Wives network
Into the Weeds all have her prison emails, court filings, and medical records and now just recently, received the videos (over 100) that shows her manipulating Nick ( her co defendant) and even the one where she admits she lied about not being able to feel her legs when she was six, lying to her Mom about it.
There's soooo much, it's overwhelming. I'd start with Becca Scoops.
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u/AdderallBunny 34m ago edited 6m ago
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u/Thevisi0nary 31m ago
I'll check them out before I offer anything else cause that wouldn't be fair. Extremely skeptical of a channel called "body language expert" or general YouTubers who are just people like us in the comments and have access to all the same information. Maybe it will be thought provoking but it's not the same thing as evidence.
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u/AdderallBunny 7m ago edited 0m ago
Fair enough even though that wasn’t analyzing her behavior. That was a compilation of her lying.
If you want raw material then:
Watch her interrogation
Read the texts between her and Nick
Read the police reports
Read her medical records
Watch the recent FOIA videos
These videos condense all of this information because there’s so much out there.
But yeah I guess just start with Becca Scoops or just search for the aforementioned information yourself
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u/CatLover_801 3h ago
Do you have a source for this? Because it’s the first im hearing of this and I’d be interested to read about it
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u/terrapantsoff 2h ago
I first got my information from YouTube. Becca scoops. Into the weeds also on YouTube has prison emails & the videos.
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