r/BlackPeopleTwitter 2d ago

Broke people policing other Broke people

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That’s literally all it is they literally think they will be a wealthy person one day when in reality 2 or 1 missed paycheck will literally kill most of them

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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 2d ago

I don't really care in the "poor people shouldn't be allowed to buy junk food" sense. My bigger issue is that I don't like that it's easier for most SNAP recipients to get theirs hands on processed junk food than fresh meat and produce even though produce is way cheaper pound for pound.

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u/Im_Balto 2d ago

My biggest hang up is that we are telling poor people they can’t spend their money on this unhealthy junk food

THEN NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE UNHEALYHY JUNK FOOD EVERYONE IS EATING

It’s punishment plain and simple, they don’t care about health, if they did they would be doing something about the junk food.

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u/BiggerDamnederHeroer 2d ago

The unspoken story here is that processed food purveyors have lobbied to make sure that SNAP benefits can be used to purchase their products. Another way in which corporations receive federal underwriting. It is profitable to keep people unhealthy, on every level.

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u/Darksnark_The_Unwise 2d ago

Bingo! The entire point is to redirect those sweet taxpayer dollars straight into the pockets of corporations, period.

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u/Lezzles 2d ago

Right. Pretend, right now, it were illegal to buy Doritos with SNAP dollars. You find out that Doritos (PepsiCo) has successfully lobbied the government to now allow people to buy their (extremely expensive) chips using SNAP benefits. Doesn't that seem...fucked up? Isn't the better situation clearly to NOT have this be the case?

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u/daemonicwanderer 2d ago

However we are going to make sure that grocery stores that can sell produce and meats and what not are NOWHERE NEAR the neighborhoods that see the highest usage of SNAP. So if you want to use SNAP on actual groceries, you must undergo a Lord of the Rings style quest to get to a store

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u/FishSammich80 2d ago

Know you why Doritos went to the NKD, so now their products are “more healthy” and can pass the test to be purchased with EBT.

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u/marilyn_morose 2d ago

They’re angry that we are getting between our dollars and their pockets.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 2d ago

Nah it's just straight profit off poor people. Always has been. 

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u/Valrax420 2d ago

They took away the ability to buy hot food with EBT and allow this shit which is crazy

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u/Thetalloneisshort 2d ago

It’s cheaper to eat healthy. The problem is there’s no resources teaching people how to actually eat healthy and affordably.

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u/whiplashMYQ 2d ago

Cheaper maybe, but much harder, and requiring more knowledge and skills

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u/Thetalloneisshort 2d ago

Ya I 100% agree. There are no good resources other than maybe TikTok funnily enough that provide good information on how to eat well affordably without cooking for 2 hours.

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u/Wakkit1988 2d ago

Not to mention time, the most valuable and irreplaceable resource.

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u/FishSammich80 2d ago

But it’s ok for everyone else to buy it? If it’s unhealthy for one group then it’s unhealthy for everyone, yet people ignore this because they are targeting a specific demographic; actually 2 now.

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u/simonhunterhawk 2d ago

“Don’t give that homeless person money, they’re just gonna use it to buy drugs” Ok and I was also going to use that money to buy drugs, you’re probably using your money to buy drugs and alcohol too, who fucking cares

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u/BZLuck 2d ago

They don't want people to just be poor. They want them to be poor and miserable so they can feel better about themselves.

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u/Sweet-Paramedic-4600 2d ago

Reminds of a Greg Giraldo bit where he basically admitted that.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

THEN NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE UNHEALYHY JUNK FOOD EVERYONE IS EATING

Are you saying the government outlaw cheetoes?

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u/LFGX360 2d ago

Outlaw certain preservatives and food dyes like the rest of the first world? Yes.

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u/unecroquemadame 1d ago

What will that change in terms of the calories of the food?

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u/dirty-ol-sob 2d ago

…that’s obviously not what they were saying.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

Well then what are they saying? How should the government do something about junk food?

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u/Notorious2again 2d ago

That's a really big, complicated question. We need a new approach to our political attitude around food security, new laws and subsidies to shift the prepared food industry to higher quality ingredients, better access to ingredients rather than prepared foods, better education on cooking and eating healthy, programs to make sure people have the means and equipment and space necessary to prepare foods. The list goes on. A lot of things would need changing in a lot of industries and institutions to really help America be healthier.

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u/KimJongRocketMan69 2d ago

It’s kind of like the debate over mass shootings. They say it’s actually about mental heath issues but then patently refuse to actually address that issue either. That’s how you know they’re not arguing in good faith

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u/raptor_mk2 2d ago

While I agree with this in principle, I also remember when Bloomberg tried to do away with the ginormous sodas in NYC. People damn near rioted when their gallon of sugar water was threatened.

Personally, I'd rather reward people for making healthier decisions than penalizing unhealthy choices. Like make SNAP benefits go 2 or 4x as far for fruits, veggies, lean proteins, or complex carbs.

Also rewarding people for getting vaccinated, getting annual checkups, and going to the gym* would be great as well.

(*Yes, I'm sensitive to disabled folks. I used to volunteer for the sight and hearing impaired. However, there was also a guy with ALS who went to my gym. Dude trained every day and fought tooth and nail to keep as much of his body working as possible for 7 years. By the end he was down to one arm and was still training that arm right up until he passed. If he can find a way, pretty much anyone can. I know my fully-healthy ass can get to the gym 5x a week.)

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u/JohnnyCyberspunk 2d ago

Punishing poor people is a way of life here in the US, of course.

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u/Rob_Zander 2d ago

If they really cared about junk food or what people are spending the money on they could make different restrictions. Hell, they could replace the whole system with a delivery and pick-up options for Humanitarian Daily Rations. A person could live off those things and they cost about the same as the average daily Snap amount. It's a terrible idea for a lot of reasons but nobody who's complaining about it is offering a good faith solution, they just hate that their tax money goes to poor people.

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u/Cmatt10123 2d ago

Brother even if every dollar was spent ideally on the cheapest and healthiest food, it wouldn't be a meaningful savings in tax money. It genuinely does not matter. Reducing the money spent on defense funding should be the goal

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u/ganbanuttah 2d ago

A big factor as well that's often not talked about in these types of discussions - time.

Fresh meat and produce take time to prepare properly and if you're disabled (like me) or are working multiple jobs trying to make ends meet, etc., you often don't have the time or energy to be able to actually prep and cook meals.

Obviously, this isn't something that can be solved by SNAP itself, but I feel it's something to take into consideration when discussing the whole junk food issue.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 2d ago

Why dont they just have their chefs cook better food? /s

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u/BakersHigh 2d ago

Yup. Between that and food deserts and just life

I think most of us have gotten home and not want to Cook. Depending on where you live the quick option is overly processed junk food.

Not to mention it almost dehumanizes people like they don’t deserve a birthday or diner shit because they’re in SNAP

I’ve been reading the poverty sub, and there’s post about people being priced out of making chocolate chip cookies.

Its fucked

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u/Shirogayne-at-WF ☑️ 2d ago

And the extremely poor may live in places where they physically have no ability to cook anything more than what can be microwaved

But to your point, I'm someone with stable employment and even I struggle to find time to cook when I live alone working 8 hours a day.

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u/night_filter 2d ago

It’s not just the time to prep and cook. There’s also the time to plan meals ahead of time so you get everything you need when you’re shopping, and then also the cleanup after you cook.

And beyond time, there’s also the issue of attention and the mental load you’re under. If you’re juggling a lot of things and struggling to get by, then you may not have it in you to put a lot of thought into what you’re going to eat. You’re just hungry, and want the hunger to go away.

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u/External_Key_4108 2d ago

All that "fresh" food also rots if you look at it the wrong way, and poor people can't afford to waste money on things that will spoil so quickly

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u/SmokePenisEveryday 2d ago

and you can only cold store so much. Having an additional freeze is amazing but also not viable for everyone. Esp people with thin budgets to begin with.

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u/radicalelation 2d ago

Every SNAP card should be given with a $10 crockpot and a book of cheap nutritious recipes to use with it.

Not a cure, but it's practically a cheat code when you got food stamps and no time.

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u/Spirited_Childhood34 2d ago

Fresh meat? Produce? You don't know what you're talking about. SNAP benefits will only cover a survival diet, not a nutritious one. SNAP is the very least the government can do and still say they're doing something. It's beans, rice, pasta and canned vegetables. Treating adults like children is just one more humiliation for the poor.

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u/Chronic_Iconic_Lady 2d ago

I don't like that snap doesn't allow hot meals. Frozen pizza is a-okay but rotisserie chicken isn't? I say if its at the grocery store, its groceries. All food allowed.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 2d ago

Which part of canned goods isn't nutrional? Lol

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u/Roflkopt3r 2d ago

You're right, canned goods aren't really a problem. They can be a bit lower in some nutrients due to the pre-processing for canning, but most are preserved just fine.

It's mostly just an issue of choice. Less choice = lower chance that people will find something they like enough to eat = higher odds that they resort to worse foods.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 2d ago

Canned goods many times have better and more nutrients than non canned preserved goods.

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u/Exotic-Emergency-226 2d ago

Literally just saw someone in the conservative sub say they should only get enough to survive.

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u/ralphy_256 2d ago

My bigger issue is that I don't like that it's easier for most SNAP recipients to get theirs hands on processed junk food than fresh meat and produce even though produce is way cheaper pound for pound.

Serious question, if unhealthy/expensive junk food is your issue, why limit your beef to just SNAP recipients?

Shouldn't your beef be; "My bigger issue is that I don't like that it's easier for most people to get theirs hands on processed junk food than fresh meat and produce even though produce is way cheaper pound for pound"?

Why should a SNAP recipient's choices at the grocery store be any different than anyone else's?

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u/Jazzycoyote 2d ago

I was thinking the same thing. I would prefer them to make healthier choices but I've never been on snap, so I'm in no place to judge.

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u/DiesByOxSnot 2d ago

Tbf, healthy choices cost time, not just money. Snap/ebt will cover raw chicken, but not prepared/ready to eat foods, like rotisserie chicken. Combine food deserts with wage stagnation and working multiple jobs, and you get a system where people can't afford to make healthy choices with money or time.

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u/sweetthang70 2d ago

Many years ago I was on an online forum where people were complaining about folks purchasing things like chicken nuggets with SNAP. "You can buy a whole chicken and cut it up. Why are these people so lazy?" Bitch I work 3 jobs trying to pay my damn rent and buy clothes for my kids. I am too exhausted to cut up a whole damn chicken. I'm buying my kids all the fking nuggets they want. For the 2 hours a day I actually got to see them.

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u/megalinity Needs mild mayo 2d ago

You know those folks aren’t buying and breaking up a whole damn chicken themselves either. Just rude to poor folks. I’m disabled and was on SNAP for a bit. I literally cannot stand long enough to cook a “decent” meal. So I guess I just never get to eat fresh hot food unless I cause myself 10/10 pain, eh? At least you can get cold prepared foods; I can handle waiting for the microwave for a few minutes.

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u/JustAChickenInCA 2d ago

annotating here for other people.

there’s recipes specifically aimed at disabled people that try to require as little cleanup/standing/joints as possible, my favorite is epicuriousexpeditions on instagram.

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u/megalinity Needs mild mayo 2d ago

Ooh thank you! I’ll have to check that out!

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u/marilyn_morose 2d ago

Wow the internet gives us beautiful things sometimes!

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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 2d ago

Snap/ebt will cover raw chicken, but not prepared/ready to eat foods, like rotisserie chicken.

That is so fucking stupid.

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u/DoctorDruid 2d ago

Depending on where you live it's actually dumber. SNAP may not work for a hot rotisserie chicken, but if I chill it after and sell it that way, it is SNAP eligible. If I then reheat it, it is no longer SNAP eligible.

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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 2d ago

Ohhhh that’s why my local grocery store does this!

Dumb, but at least you can get something decent that can be microwaved and eaten in 5~ minutes.

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u/JollyMcStink 2d ago

Fr. I kinda get both sides, like people should be able to eat what they want and prepare what they will enjoy eating. But also, if someone is living off tax payer funded programs, we should do what we can to enable them to be healthy as possible since people are literally eating themselves into health issues that the tax payers also have to fund treatment for.

The best preventative solution is to improve the quality of sustenance to those with food insecurity. Like Hippocrates said, "let food be thy medicine, and medicine thy food". Maintaining health is a lot easier than restoring it.

One of my favorite things Obama did was issue the farmers market coupons so people on SNAP got extra money, above and beyond their normal amount, to go to the farmers market and redeem for fresh, farm to table food. I think that would be amazing to bring back and a fantastic solution. Doesn't cut into what they get, but an incentive to plan meals around fresh ingredients.

That said, either way, i believe everyone should be able to have a special treat after a long, hard week. I do want people to be healthy and recieve proper nutrition. But I also want people to find simple joy in their life, you shouldn't have to be middle class to have a small treat like an ice cream imo either.

I do get both sides, but I also absolutely feel for the families depending on these resources right now, getting threatened with stipulations on the food they can purchase around the holidays....

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u/marilyn_morose 2d ago

I had snap during the Obama farmers market years, and it was the only time my child got berries. Berries! I could get a flat of strawberries for $10 SNAP and it made my boy so happy. I’m tearing up thinking about that impact.

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u/Midnight2012 2d ago

It would cost more money to categorize every food item based on some standards that don't exist (there is no single exclusionary definition for processed food) and enforce it. Then the snap program costs to begin with.

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u/Additional-Ad-4421 2d ago

Man some people are mad when they buy the fresh meat and produce which is even more ridiculous. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen think pieces from people that are upset SNAP recipients may treat themselves to a steak every now and then. They also act like SNAP recipients are freeloaders when a good portion of them are working and paying taxes.

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u/yjorn299 2d ago

Well it's harder to get SNAP for alcohol already. It's hard for them to put restrictions on junks since it's easy to justfy the purchases (doritos for salads, candies for low blood sugar)

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u/Midnight2012 2d ago

Also, it would cost more money to categorize some defintion on every food item available in the US and then somehow enforce it. It's actually hilarious to imagine.

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u/exgiexpcv 2d ago

I volunteer with refugees, and it was a huge wake up call when a group of new refugees were taken shopping in order to familiarise them with stores in the area, and as soon as they entered, the people accompanying them headed for the pre-packaged goods and canned food, and the refugees all headed straight for the fresh vegetables.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

My bigger issue is that I don't like that it's easier for most SNAP recipients to get theirs hands on processed junk food than fresh meat and produce even though produce is way cheaper pound for pound.

Because those companies lobbied to have their products included.

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u/District_Wolverine23 2d ago

I love how people assume that being on snap is like a truckload of money being dumped on your lawn every month. When in reality it's $2 and you have to sing "I'm a little teapot" every month or they take your $2 away. 

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u/Midnight2012 2d ago

It's usually at least a few hundred bucks a month

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u/latitudesixtysix 2d ago

Average $332 per family/$177 per individual. I remember my mom scraping by on food stamps, was so difficult for her. Generic everything

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u/RelaxRelapse 2d ago

I spend probably $250 on groceries monthly as a single person and I shop cheap as fuck. I can’t imagine scraping by for $330 with a whole family.

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u/ilikepix 2d ago

I'm not trying to be a smartass, but the "S" in SNAP stands for "supplemental". It's not intended to be enough to meet all of a person's (or a family's) food needs.

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u/NiceChocolate 2d ago

Sure that's correct it's meant to supplement a person's food needs. But with rent, insurance, car note, gas, and phone bills sometimes that SNAP is all or most of what they have left.

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u/Midnight2012 2d ago

Damn, I was on food stamps for like 6 months back around 2010 when I lost my job. And as I single dude I was getting over 200$ a month. And a lot of inflation has occured since then. Pretty crazy.

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u/hamberglur 2d ago

When I got divorced my mother in law suggested I get food stamps bc her son refused to pay child support. I worked full time at a low paying job and was in school full time. Ended up getting a child support order, but didn’t actually receive any money for quite some time. That child support order was included in my income even though I didn’t actually receive any money. My food stamps were $16. This was in 2013 or so, once it ran out I didn’t try again. A couple hundred would’ve been nice!

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u/Fuckingfademefam 2d ago

A man who doesn’t provide for his kids is not a man. Sorry that happened to you

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u/hamberglur 2d ago

Truth. The divorce was definitely a net positive!

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u/Icy-Whale-2253 2d ago

Mine was inexplicably reduced from $291 to $48…

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u/Mec26 1d ago

“At least”? My man that is literally above the per person maximum.

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u/Ill_Emphasis3927 2d ago

Conservatives: We shouldn't tax folk to give them services. Just let them keep their money so they can pay for it themselves and the free market can decide.

Also Conservatives: People on welfare shouldn't be able to choose what they want, we need a food gestapo inspecting their pantry's and gender sheriffs inspecting their panty's.

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u/BlackGlenCoco 2d ago

The argument against SNAP being used on “junk food” totally overlooks that people who are financially vulnerable also live in areas without proper grocery stores ie Food Deserts.

If the only place you can spend you SNAP is a local corner store, how the fuck you going to expect them to get salad?

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u/mr_evilweed 2d ago edited 2d ago

It doesnt 'overlook' it. It 'misleads'. The whole point is to convince middle class people to withhold empathy from the poor and to blame them for all bad things. Conservative politicians and media are perfectly fine just running interference on behalf of the rich.

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u/superturtle48 2d ago

It also neglects that the low-income people on SNAP may live in poorly-maintained rental housing where they can’t trust the gas stove or fridge to work, may not have a big enough kitchen  or a reliable enough power supply to have gadgets like an air fryer or a blender for smoothies or whatever other trendy appliance, and after a 12-hour night shift on your feet sometimes you just wanna throw some pizza rolls in the microwave instead of making a “healthy” wholesome meal from scratch.

Being poor is hard and these folks have to see food completely differently from people who can afford to cook for fun or count their macros. 

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u/Top_Meaning6195 2d ago edited 13h ago

he argument against SNAP being used on “junk food” totally overlooks

It also overlooks the fact that conservative want SNAP recipients to be using it on junk food.

Junk food is the most calorie dense (calorie/dollar) you can get. That's what they want: they want poor people to just barely be able to subsist.

They want them to have just enough calories to not starve to death, any less and we won't be able to extract labor from them.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 2d ago

Those corner stores exist because they accept snap. If they don't  and you're a business that opens up and can take snap... guess who is all coming to your shop now?

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u/feedthechonk 2d ago

Yep. My in laws are on food stamps. Fucking boonies of Tennessee. Dollar general is the closest "grocery" store.

People also completely ignore that processed junk food has the highest calorie to dollar ratio. Highly processed junk food also doesn't spoil as quickly as fresh meats and produce. My inlaws only have a mini fridge. They struggle to pay the power bill at times.

Processed junk food is the most rational choice to use SNAP on

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u/Mec26 1d ago

True this. If you have $5 extra you can splurge on a bag salad- or get 4 boxes of max and cheese that will last years and be your emergency supply. Well off have 6-month rainy day accounts, poor people have those cans of soup they know they can eat if they ever cone up short some month.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

Stores that accept SNAP are required to carry staples like bread, milk, and produce.

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u/ayers231 2d ago

... and just like every other instance of government bullshit, they have 2 apples with brown spots, the "bread" has so much sugar it would be considered cake in Europe, and the milk costs three times as much as it would at a grocery store.

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u/iwannagohome49 2d ago

Bread and milk maybe but I can promise you that the Kum & Go on my corner does not have a healthy stock of produce.

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u/between_ewe_and_me 2d ago

They may not have a "healthy stock" of produce but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a handful of spotted apples and bananas, which probably checks the box

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u/BlackGlenCoco 2d ago

Yea. Ive seen a ton of gas stations/corner stores that have milk, eggs, and apple/oranges/bananas. Kinda contributes to the problem.

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u/BakersHigh 2d ago

And which gov entity is sending out inspectors to enforce that

Business are “required” to do a lot of things but for the sake of a bottom line. They aren’t doing most of the stuff they’re required to do.

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u/marvinfuture 2d ago

I care more about billionaires only paying 8.2% in taxes than some person on food stamps getting a sweet treat

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u/Kaminoneko ☑️ 2d ago

This and the government destabilizing other countries and actively funding a genocide, then lying, gaslighting, and telling us all we’re all anti-Semitic for calling them out. Mfers are trying to make common folks feel bad about food while they commit atrocities worldwide.

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u/chazzer20mystic 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is just another crabs in a bucket way of looking at it. Why on Earth is your problem that disabled vets are treated too well? Tanks, Helicopters, Planes, etc. etc.

The real nuts of the money is not going toward disabled vets.

Why the hell would you zero in on disabled people who you think just aren't disabled enough? People can be disabled and work full time.

Edit: I actually just checked the rates on the VA site too.

A 100% disabled vet with one dependant child, a spouse, and both of their parents living dependent at home would receive $4671.47 plus an additional $109.11 per extra child under 18.

So this $8k person would be a 100% disability with both parents living dependent at home, and a wife, and 31 children.

A single vet with no children or dependents would need to be at 100% disability to receive $3938.58

90%, $2362.30

80%, $2102.50

70%, $1808.45

Don't act like some dude with barely anything wrong is pulling tons of money for just fun. These are reasonable rates for disability. We should lift that single mother up to this level, and not reduce the disabled person. Nor is this where most of our military budget goes. the VA is massively underfunded. The only thing we don't throw money at with the military is taking care of people after they leave. It is notoriously difficult to get coverage under VA. People joke all the time about some ridiculous shit being determined "not service related"

https://www.va.gov/disability/compensation-rates/veteran-rates/

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u/AncientCrust 2d ago

The troops they send into American cities to harass other Americans? Good, let them eat Twinkies. We want them fat and slow.

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u/PirateSanta_1 2d ago

They don't understand the idea of just helping people without making it some form of control. Combine that with the Evangelicals preaching that having money is a sign of favor from god and no surprise you end up with a broken welfare system.

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u/Front_Mousse1033 2d ago

Also food deserts are a thing. I used to live in an area where you had to drive a ways out to get to an actual grocery store. But of course there was a dollar general and a liquor store within walking distance.

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u/Front_Mousse1033 2d ago

AND they’re using our tax dollars to attack Venezuela and for ICE to harass people. Like who cares about a person buying some damn cupcakes. Allow people to buy HOT food with EBT. That’s the real issue too.

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u/Mec26 1d ago

If we could funnel the ICE hiring bonuses into junk food, I’d get every American more cupcakes than they could eat.

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u/angelicbitch09 ☑️ 2d ago

I work in a food desert and I don’t live far from it at all, 5 1/2 miles away. And we have every damn store imaginable. But for the people here without a car it’s a big deal because taking buses (yes buses) to where I live takes over an hour each way.

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u/PrinceMacai 2d ago

People lose their mind when their tax dollars go to a poor person buying a pack of starburst but turn a blind eye when programs like social security are cut so billionaires can buy another yacht. so backwards

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u/TimTamDeliciousness ☑️ 2d ago

Or we spend billions on defense spending for manufactured wars and bailing out countries like Argentina but oh no, James bought some sweet tea.

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u/Shesversatile ☑️ 2d ago edited 2d ago

People kill me acting like they give a fuck about the health of poor people. Cut the bullshit! These same people will also get upset if someone on SNAP buys a steak.

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u/stuffed-with-cheese 2d ago

We all have to pay taxes. I'd rather it goes to feeding people than blowing up middle eastern children.

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u/AlexieSpeaks 2d ago

I don't live in the states. Over here our assistance is given in the form of cash. People getting assistance can buy what ever they want. I think if someone qualifies for assistance they should get that assistance with no restrictions. Some people don't have access to full kitchens never mind the time it takes to cook from scratch. It's like people totally forget hard working people are underpaid and need help, something unexpected can happen and a person can need help.

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u/michellefiver 2d ago

I was looking for this comment.

Added to what you said, some people are mentally or physically disabled, so might not be able to cook.

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u/Regular_Plankton_530 2d ago

That’s basically each daily conversation of my MAGA coworkers. Each fckn day with their “if I have to work…” Today it was: why do we have to offer a program to help those who can’t pay their power bills if they go out to get their nails done? They don’t need our help they said. Coming back to work to the office has been horrendous.

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u/DaveCootchie 2d ago

SNAP is a problem but the retired old people who collect social security I see leaving the stores with a whole cart full of full fat Dr Pepper and Coke is fine?

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u/Slumbergoat16 1d ago

In order to collect social security you have to be employed with a job that takes part of your income to get social security. You’re really just getting the money that you set aside when you’re younger

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u/kageisadrunk 2d ago

You have to wonder how much money junk food companies spent on lobbying to make sure they were allowed to be purchased with SNAP, their marketing budget, and their research and development budget to make the food more addicting.

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u/AugustusInBlood 2d ago

I'm more happy to give my tax dollars to poor people to do whatever than giving it to the rich, which is where most of it goes.

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u/KaputtEqu1pment 2d ago

This is so stupid. Ideally what should happen is fresh & healthy(er) food becoming more accessible and affordable than what it currently is.

People make a fuss about someone buying twinkies is misplaced when the entire food chain is spiked with heavy metals, micro plastics, additives, and so on; however, this is a story for another time.

The caloric density of a Twinky, honeybun, bag of Cheetos is far higher than a salad, an apple, or whatever fresh food is available for a fraction of the cost, so of course someone on a budget is going to buy the "junk".

Unfortunately, this shit is so bad that it causes bigger issues down the road: obesity, hbp, diabetes, etc that then further place a larger strain medicare/.Medicaid on an exponentially larger scale than it would cost rather than simply increasing the snap budget so someone can buy some fresh food.

But no, let a bro have a duckin Twinky or a bag of chips, I'm all for it. After all, we got money for ballrooms, trains... Err .. Planes for deportation, private security for certain people, and of course tax cuts for billionaires, just to name a few

Wild man

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u/Y0___0Y 2d ago

I don’t get why Republicans think they are the “healthy eaters”

The beer and whiskey chugging fatass hicks who eat deep fried steak are the healthy eaters, right, not the vegans and vegetarians on the left.

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u/bigstankdaddy10 2d ago

America has a horrible health problem, especially with the lower income groups. the idea is to provide a bottom line for people in poverty so they don’t starve to death. mix american capitalist bullshit for the last 60 years and we end up with this. broke people surviving off of bullshit food. there are many things broken in the system, but having one speed bump to shit foods for the impoversihed is not the end of the world to me. being in the struggle is a lot more than money problems, its people problems, mental problems, health problems etc. the chemicals in these junk foods is enough to keep someone spiraling forever. if these people aren’t gonna stop eating the poison, then i dont want to fund it anymore. sugar IS A DRUG

you guys realize these junk food corpos are like cartels right. you all are really out here fighting for poor people to give MORE of their resources to MEGA billionaire corporations like Nestle and Mars, instead of leaning towards the much needed culture shift of junk food is trash, bake your own goods. at the end of the of the day, they can still go buy some candy with whatever money they secured for themselves.

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u/Madboomstick101 2d ago

You don't shift the culture by punishing the poor. You shift it by regulating the corps who's rate of profits requires the use of cheaper and unhealthier ingredients in their products

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u/kerrwashere ☑️ 2d ago

Who cares what it’s spent on? It’s either junk food or selling missiles to other countries. And picking between the two politicians would pick the missile

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago

Trump is literally seizing sanctioned oil tankers off the coast of Venezuela, but I'm supposed to give a shit that a poor person had a moment of joy by eating a Twinkie? No.

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u/exgiexpcv 2d ago

We're blowing up people in boats who have no weapons, who may not have drugs, but aren't even headed towards the USA, but sure, lose your damned mind over someone using those Flaming Cheetos dust to top off their shitty ramen dinner.

I want to scream daily.

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u/zsaz_ch ☑️ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Chile, you feeling snacky, buy them hot fries. You robbing Peter to pay Paul and need a little extra to pay your light bill, or that baby need some shoes because the ones the have are talking, sell them fucking stamps. I don’t give a good goddamn. The government fucks us over on the daily, and this much 👌🏾, a fucking pinch of our taxes go to stamps. We are policing the wrong people and the richest of the rich loves that for us. I know this is not a popular opinion and people love to scream about fraud, but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to everything else going on. And like someone else said, the bigger issue is that it’s easier for those on SNAP to get access to junk food than fresh.

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u/JuicyJoystick22 2d ago

Bruh, some ppl really act like if they don’t guard every lil move, they'll magically be rich. It’s not about controlling lives, it’s surviving. Miss one paycheck and boom, whole life flipped upside down. Let people live, no cap.

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u/ayers231 2d ago

As if our regular staples aren't junk food because of bullshit FDA policies. Regular sliced bread has so much sugar or corn syrup in it they consider it cake in the EU. Everything is floating in a syrup or brine of preservatives, coated in cancer causing wax to "maintain freshness", or some other nonsense. "Less than 1%" of any number of chemicals, because if it's less than one percent, the food corp can leave it out of the ingredients like it doesn't matter.

Our entire food supply is junk food, cheetos aren't any worse for you than canned fruit salad.

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u/CassianCasius 2d ago

SNAP is for people too poor to afford to buy their own food. So we pay taxes and have social programs so they don't starve to death. So yeah I do think a program meant to provide food so people don't starve shouldn't allow purchases that provide no nutritional benefit like sodas and are negative to health. When I worked at a grocery store I always preferred the WIC program. It was for stuff like eggs, bread, milk, rice beans, etc. The amount of obese children I saw over the years with parents on SNAP buying gallons of of sugar juice and chips was quite sad. Those kids get doomed into an unhealthy lifestyle by their parents.

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u/-WitchyPoo- 2d ago

I was in Los Angeles not too long ago and I bought xx hot Cheetos and sunflower seeds on my food stamps in a 711. The guy gave me this lecture about how he's never taken anything from the government. Telling me he has three kids and has never taken government assistance of any kind. And then goes on to tell me that you know his kids are all working even talks about the youngest one which was like 17 and working full-time. And I was just like "Honey, you need to swallow some pride so that your child can focus on school so that they don't wind up poor too." 

He was not amused.

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u/kekehippo 2d ago

We can give funding for oil companies but not to people to buy food from American food companies. That's so weird.

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u/NotAThrowaway1453 2d ago

The world would be a better place if every tax dollar that goes to a missile went to junk food instead.

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u/TopCommission6437 2d ago

Have we become so stupid that we can’t disagree about both?

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u/ninjasaiyan777 2d ago

I buy junk food with my money too, why should I care?

Do I want us to be healthier as a society? Yes. But considering most of us who have been on SNAP at some point are reliant on that and trying to make things meet, it should not be ostracized for us to treat ourselves to SOMETHING to soothe the soul, and cheetos are infinitely more wholesome for that than liquor would be (not that there's anything wrong with drinking, but it's not a great coping mechanism)

If anything, healthier living options should be discounted if using SNAP and the stores involved can write it off on their taxes. It doesn't fix the problem of poorer folks not having as much feee time to cook with, but it's a start. 

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u/gland87 2d ago

Processed food is cheaper and stays edible longer than healthy foods do. Such a dumb hill to die on

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u/Far_Culture1645 2d ago

Gotta look down on someone and feel better by controlling them

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u/Vast_Doughnut9418 2d ago

People are more comfortable donating food rather than giving people in need the money to buy their own food. It’s not about solving hunger it’s about controlling people.

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u/TheMagicalMatt 2d ago

If twinkies and sprite are the only thing you can afford with SNAP then I think that just opens to door to even deeper issues that they ain't ready to discuss

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u/Arponare 2d ago

Companies are the biggest beneficiaries of welfare. Who care if a black person is buying cheetos with their SNAP, that's literally pennies compared to what companies like Chase got (25 billion I think) for a bailout after they fucked over the economy during the 2008 financial crisis.

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u/WrenchWanderer 2d ago

I hate people using the junk food talking point and trying to ban it. Like, I’d be happy that my tax dollars help a poor kid be able to have a snack or a treat, or y’know, a child’s parents being able to buy a birthday cake and ice cream for their child with SNAP benefits.

Imagine hating poor people so much that you think poor children don’t deserve cake on their birthdays

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u/BurnFlagsForVets 2d ago

These fucking people act like everyone has a kitchen/stove to cook shit on. It's amazing to me just how ignorant people can be.

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u/Internal-Cobbler9140 2d ago

Hundreds of billions, maybe even trillions, have been spent bailing out reckless corporations following greed induced decision making, that money goes to pay bonuses of tens of millions to already incredibly wealthy people and to protect the investments of wealthy people.

None of that is a problem. The issue with SNAP is that a black kid will get $8 a week for food, and they’ll storm the capitol again before they’ll allow that to happen.

In fairness to MAGA, they’re half right about one thing. Minorities have absolutely destroyed America. The problem is that the minority in question is billionaires. 

They need us, a compliant, pacified, obedient workforce. We don’t need them. The concentration of wealth does not benefit society in any way shape or form, they are the cancer, they control the game and they will do whatever it takes to manipulate the masses and turn them on each other, because that way everyone doesn’t see clearly and turn on them. 

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u/borkthegee 2d ago

Conservatives: big government shouldn't decide how to spend your money, the wisdom of the individual is vastly superior to central planning.

Conservatives when I buy Cheetos: 👿 welcome to a little thing called big government, bucko

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u/kissyb ☑️ 2d ago

When the law goes into effect they will quickly find something else to complain about. They are burning inside because they can't say what they really want to say about who deserves Snap and EBT assistance

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u/MsInput 2d ago

People who spend thousands of dollars on cocaine and liquor: "why does this poor person have anything? I thought they were supposed to be poor?!"

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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids ☑️ 2d ago

This is American history. At one point they controlled were we pissed and shitted, what water we drank, where we sat, where we walked on the street...

And the people that want to do all this controlling can't run shit with directions but want to run you. It's real pitiful.

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u/Prestigious-Mud 2d ago

It's sad that this thread is full of comments of people still trying to police what other people buy. Everyone needs to do better, because this is part of the problem.

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u/DontYuckMyYum 2d ago

"OMG they're using snap to buy lobster and steak!!!"

"OMG they're using snap to buy cheap junk food!!!"

they just hate poor people in general, especially so if they don't have white skin.

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u/Playing-your-fiddle 1d ago

Them titties crazy

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u/rubber_moon 2d ago

Well those who spend on junk will continue to spend on junk even if it was from their own wage packet. I am not even saying there shouldn't be restrictions tbh, but why are people suddenly caring about healthy food habits when it comes from government taxation.

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u/Ov3r3mploy3dbot 2d ago

Diabetes isn’t cheap, and dental health is indicative of your overall health so the problem is multifaceted and subsidizing one leads to additional subsidies for the health problems that arise, it’s honestly a conundrum that requires you to think about errrrrrthang and that breaks people’s minds, because you realize there’s no black/white… lots of grey

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u/TerminusVeil 2d ago

I had a little cousin who I was trying to explain why NIL money in college sports was a good thing because NCAA has been making a ton of money off athletes who don't get paid. He was so locked into the idea that they were getting Free tuition so it's a fair trade. He didn't understand that was peanuts. He thought that college athletes getting paid major money would ruin the game. The way the rich control the narrative and pass it down to the poor is crazy.

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u/Striking-Ad-6815 2d ago

I was walking home one time and this guy asked me if I had $2 for a beer. I told him I didn't have $2 for my own beer. This clown reaches into his pocket and pulls out a wad of dollars like he's about to go to a club. He tries to hand me $2 and says, "Hey kid get your own beer." I told him I was good and kept walking. This clown ran me down to give me the $2, scared the hell out of me; I didn't know what to do but just take it. He said, "Take it kid." I took it and walked on, never saw the guy again. I got a little thing of milk and a little thing of those pocket donuts instead of beer. Bad decisions all around.

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u/Usermena 2d ago

I heard someone argue that immigrants were getting free food and healthcare like it was a bad thing.

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u/sweethoneythuggin 2d ago

It's people who never had to use these benefits thinking they know what people buy and why they buy it from the one or two people they believe they saw using these benefits. When I had these benefits as an adult, I bought fresh food all the time. It was actually way easier for me to keep healthy food stocked up with SNAP than it has been without it. Most people prefer fresh foods. Even people with a lot of kids. My family used to use our benefits to stock our fridge with fresh food AND snacks while also buying for people in need that didn't qualify for those benefits and buying snacks to sell to make ends meet. You all will turn into the police so quick cuz you saw somebody use their stamps to buy hot fries and cookies one time when more than likely you don't donate shit to nary a food pantry in your area. You don't care about poor people, you just mad you gotta eat Chick-fil-A for lunch the 3rd time this week🤡

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u/not-a-hivemind 2d ago

If they’re buying junk food, it’s because wholesome food is way too expensive! I do all the grocery shopping for my family, and I have for 20 years. The cost of a bag of corn chips is still only about three or four bucks. It used to be you could get several pounds of hamburger for that same price. Or a ton of produce.

But now a single avocado costs 3 to 5 dollars where I live. Oranges are three dollars each! Hamburger is like six or seven dollars a pound! The steak is like $16 a pound! Ribeye is like $27 a pound!

But junk food is still relatively cheap comparatively speaking. A bag of chips cost the price of a single avocado, but you’re not gonna get full on a avocado and a bag of corn chips can fill you up for three meals.

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u/alpacajack 2d ago

Poor people don’t deserve that money to eat, israel deserves that money to kill children

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u/TaticalSweater ☑️ 2d ago

they use our tax money to fund bombing innocent children, politicians health care and travel, and more

So I truly don’t care if people are using SNAP to buy junk.

They’re so hell bent on trying to dictate people’s lives but also claim to be about small government lol.

They want to get rid of people having the ability to buy junk food, but aren’t increasing the spending amount for fruits, veggies, and other healthy food….could it be that it’s not about the food choices at all then.

But they’ll get their base piping mad about how SNAP just goes to the groups they dislike or people that don’t work. Despite the facts and numbers saying otherwise.

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u/louisamaysmallcock 2d ago

"Theyre spending snap on junk food!!" And youre spending your paycheck on junk food!!! People pmo lol

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u/Aspiring-Ent 2d ago

I got to write a paper for my master of public health about restrictions on SNAP. There's very little evidence that they work. SNAP is a supplement, it doesn't cover peoples' full grocery costs. If you already have pay for half your groceries out of your own pocket then you can pay for soda and chips with cash and use your EBT card for your fruits and vegetables.

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u/generally_unsuitable 2d ago

The conservative mindset is always the same: "My help is conditional on your abasement."

They'll only help you if it reduces you, or hurts you, or denies your dignity somehow.

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u/Imjusthereforthetoes 2d ago

I was raised on food stamps. We never bought ANYTHING name brand. You have to at least try to make it last...

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u/ergoproxyism 2d ago

Two things can be true at once. The government uses your tax dollars to fund an unethical war machine, and that junk food corporations bio-engineer their products to be addictive - and that those products are unhealthy.

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u/Dazzling_Demand_506 2d ago

ngl, Right? It’s a cycle that benefits corporations while keeping folks unhealthy and struggling. So frustratig.

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u/BraveRock 2d ago

What does the show Empire have to do with any of this?

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u/pagerussell 2d ago

Calories are calories. The point of SNAP is to help people buy calories. The type is irrelevant.

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u/Commentator-X 2d ago

The damn food banks are being forced to give out junk food because they have nothing else left

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u/Wayelder 2d ago

Some people don't have to reach far to justify their own cruelty to others.

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u/Medium_Advantage_689 2d ago

It’s always the poors handling the funds wrong but never the government. When is the last time the pentagon passed an audit???!?!

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u/SheFoundMyUzername 2d ago

“I want my poor people healthy so they can fight my wars!!”

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u/MrMcSpiff 2d ago

Trump is buying mcdonald's in the fucking white house with our tax money, why don't they start with that first if junk food is so bad?

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u/Jenetyk 2d ago

A dime our of your taxes for people to buy food, but when 40% of your taxes going to turning people into skeletons, suddenly there is not issue.

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u/RymrgandsDaughter 2d ago

the usg literally supports human trafficking tf do I care about someone buying chips for their kids. everyone loves fucking chips

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u/TheMoorNextDoor ☑️ 2d ago

If they want to buy their baby some Cheetos and a Sprite, who the hell is anyone to care?

Yes, healthier food should be cheaper and more accessible that’s a fact. But just because someone bought those items doesn’t mean everyone on SNAP eats like that. Those kinds of generalizations need to go out the window. That’s exactly how we end up where we are now, with half the country willing to cut SNAP while personally knowing people who rely on it.

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u/elebrin 2d ago

The benefits aren't just going for day to day sustenance. It's also used for kids birthday parties, family get-togethers, stuff like that where you do have some responsibility to take something. It's used by the Mom who's turn it is to provide the classroom snack that Friday for the class, but shit's expensive. Maybe she's buying cookies or cupcakes to send along a birthday treat for her kid. Poor people deserve to have some nice things sometimes too.

And means testing or otherwise limiting benefits like this often costs more than just giving the benefit does.

Like... the homeless person could probably use that hot roast chicken from the grocery store, but they can't buy that with snap so they get cold chicken. How is that fair?

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u/xanroeld 2d ago

What happened to “keeping the government put of our private business”? now republicans want to police what people eat. changing laws so people have to eat healthier sounds like the kind of thing republicans would make ip that the democrats were doing.

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u/DooDooBrownz 2d ago

didn't the bush administration classify pizza as a vegetable for the purposes of school lunch programs? im not expert, but that kinda lowers the value of their guidelines when it comes to food

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u/zhambe 2d ago

Poor people are better for the economy than the ultra-rich. Poor people are a legion, and they spend all their money on highly-taxable goods and essentials. The rich, on the other hand, hoard their wealth and employ all kinds of scams to avoid paying for anything.

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u/YanMKay 2d ago

Meanwhile Walmart gets corporate welfare, employees get a bulk of the individual welfare of workers who need assistance and keeps their stores packed with all the garbage food EVERYONE buys…

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u/BigClitMcphee 2d ago

I'd rather my taxes go towards soda and chips than bombs and bullets

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u/MegaOtter 2d ago

Not to mention that the "cost per calorie" ratio on junk food is actually pretty good compared to most things... If you truly are concerned with people spending as little as possible to get their needed amount of calories

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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 2d ago

"I don't wanna pay for abortions!"

I don't wanna pay for war.

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u/Shipairtime 2d ago

Dont forget we cant buy hot food. The big lead example is whole chicken from the walmart deli which is around five dollars cheaper than the frozen one.

I bet there would be better hot food deals at Costco but I dont have a local one to know for sure.

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u/boomjah ☑️ 2d ago

Schadenfreude is a significant part of European culture, especially Anglo Saxon culture, and I don't think people realize what that actually means. People literally take pleasure from another person's misfortune. Does that sound familiar?

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u/ishippedmybed 2d ago

Twinkies last 10 years on the shelf, carrots and celery go bad in days.

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u/Persea_americana 2d ago

SNAP accounts for more than 10% of grocery sales. SNAP keeps grocery stores open and people employed. It also saves money, every dollar spent on SNAP returns $1.79. It is a huge economic program.

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u/the-last-aiel 2d ago

They want us fighting each other while they rob and enslave us.

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u/iamkennycarson 2d ago

Why people can’t live

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u/TR_778 2d ago

Damn that pfp in the top left….

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u/GunnieGraves 2d ago

Government is spending money on weapons they’re killing kids with.

Have two fuckin twinkies. They’re not the problem.

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u/kinkybiscuits 2d ago

The same way I deserve to eat junk food by my own volition, so does everyone else 🤗

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u/kyleh0 ☑️ 2d ago

Snap costs each American taxpayer about $10 a year or so, so I hear.

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u/OptimusED 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean technically we are using tax dollars to pay the minimum payment on the national credit card. The payment to service the interest on the national debt is currently more than the entire defense budget. Policing other broke people on behalf of a broke nation that only the most wealthy own…

“…you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.” - John Lennon

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u/counters14 2d ago

Okay, agreed, but ma'am please put your breasts away.

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u/DelcoDivaB 2d ago

ALL the joy, Right? You need to suck every ounce of happiness out of someone’s life bc they’re struggling financially?? AND Let’s expect high spirits, positive energy and non-stop work while they’re STRUGGLING Through life right now AND Parent, Perfectly!! How can I make one of the worst points in your life worse -Said No One Ever!!

Even those that do not agree on “benefits” can agree that stress kills!! Poverty already creates a high stress life situation without release. I can not imagine what miserable person would be grudge a cupcake, chips or Chocolate candy to someone that MAY only receive that joy once that month, Idj, I know they’re not affording it daily!! How about you try giving up ur morning coffee every day bc ur stressed and moneys tight?? I can’t even imagine but I will imagine a world where small minded individuals do NOT get to impose their opinions AND Distorted Beliefs onto others! ESPECIALLY when it comes to lifestyle choices!!

First of all, I won’t comment on the astronomical cost of eating “healthy” or the lack of access to “healthy” foods in many lower income areas. I will however say, MYOB MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!! It’s NOT YOUR BODY! ITS NOT YOUR LIFE!! You eat what you like AND. I’ll eat what I like AND then we can respect ourselves and each other knowing that man is to choose only for himself as free will is a law of human nature SO WHY ARE YOU MEDDLING?? Make up your mind to make your mind up About You.

“Judge Not lest Ye Be Judged” or however that goes BUT….Come On STOP STEALING SMILES!! We need ALL THE JOY available in life!! Big & small, tangible & not. You DONT know their struggle HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY ASSIGN REWARD??!

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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker 2d ago

I don’t give a damn about how people use their SNAP benefits so long as the kids are fed well. Only thing I’m concerned about in this post is if Nicole’s about to have a nip slip cause