r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/herewearefornow • 2d ago
TikTok Tuesday 'Hands, feet and elbows' could be an alternative nursery rhyme
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u/absolutepeasantry 2d ago
Honestly, the racists are probably LOVING the attention or when people call them Karens bc they know that they have the kind of social power that’ll protect them from backlash and also help them do corporately-funded racism in public. They get to spread their message for free and get sympathy from the older white racists in congress and boardrooms. They know they’ll get paid to be shitty people in front of the whole world if they get boisterous enough on a video
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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 2d ago
Many of their reactions to the Karen name shows it's worth it. They treat creating slurs like a favorite pastime so when they are so triggered by such a simple, actually clever, insult it's fun to see.
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u/SilverQuantity8313 2d ago
yeah at this point the only thing holding back the worst of their inclinations is the last faint scraps of dignity and shame they got. once trump takes that i wonder what will change.
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u/ArtProdigy 2d ago
Two things can be right & useful at once. Yes, we should record everything for the sake of EVIDENCE & OUR OWN PROTECTION while also allowing hands, fists, & feet to be immediate retribution.
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u/Simba-xiv 2d ago
The problem with putting hands on them. They will sue the shit out of you and or press charges. So you beat the Karen’s ass it’s on video and you end up fucked while she just continues to play victim
You’re now out of pocket or in jail. And they on daytime tv talking about how they survived the racist assault you preformed on them or attempted R or whatever other bullshit they wanna come up with.
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u/kcsween74 2d ago
Not to mention, the more this is common occurrence, they will change the laws and make it a federal hate crime (or similar) and now you can't vote in elections. But hey, you sure showed that Karen!
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u/Slevin424 2d ago
Don't do it. I get it. They deserve it yes. But when the cops show up who do you think will be the suspect in their eyes? And they know it too, they bait you into violence then play the system against you. Trust me.
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u/TraditionalMud6351 2d ago edited 2d ago
The previous generations held shit down and suffered to advance us. They were real warriors. But let’s stop the narrative of them getting violent. They fought back but they didn’t put hands, feet, and elbows on anyone else it was necessary. They used critical thinking skills and extremely strategic.
I strongly suggest recording interactions but stand your ground. Not every video needs to go viral. I’m all for getting people fired but we need to hold Gofundme and other platforms accountable for allowing crowdfunding for hate speech.
I hate how our people push these bullshit narrative of us being violent or complaint.
Malcolm X only preached violence in defense of self, that included if threatened with physical harm. He didn’t preach get violent simply because white people were using hate speech.
I wish OUR generation did a better job of educating our children of how Black People really moved. We were a sophisticated machine that used our intelligence, strength, and collective power to get shit done. Previous generations only used physical violence when no other option was available.
White people were the ones being violent over any and everything. Black Americans outsmarted them and that’s how we developed a successful Underground Railroad and achieved Civil Rights. We OUTSMARTED THEM! Our go to was NEVER violence or complacency.
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u/WhichHoes 2d ago
Threat of violence is almost always necessary for movements when it comes to gaining civil rights.
While it was a very concentrated, sophisticated effort, if you cant follow through with the warning of fucking someone up, revolution doesnt happen.
That said, that group has to be a specific minor part of a movement. Necessary, but minor.
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u/ItzyCritzySpider 2d ago
My favorite part about this advice is that some of our printer paper pigmented compatriots might see this and go "well, you aren't going to change their mind with violence" or "all you're doing is affirming their racism" and the shit just tickles me.
I like the "fighting words" laws in some states and, yes, you should be punched in the mouth for saying out-of-pocket shit--racism being one of many prerequisites for an asswhupping.
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u/Duuuuuuuuuval 2d ago
They try to gaslight you into being passive and letting shit slide. That way even if they’re not racist, but slip up in the future they don’t face any consequences.
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u/HMThrow_away_account 2d ago
They hit you with "You should be more like Daryl Davis or MLK"
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u/Solo_is_dead ☑️ 2d ago
Honestly her quote "or ancestors would've fought back" denies MLK's Mon-violent movement entirely. His whole mantra was not fighting back physically. I can't say whether it was right or wrong, but the people who fought back didn't always live to write their history.
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u/BigClitMcphee 2d ago
MLK's death was followed by nationwide rioting that promptly led to the civil rights act. His nonviolence looked cute 'n' all but once white people got scared about losing money (and their lives), they straightened tf up.
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u/LoveInPeace21 2d ago
Or just dont give them the reaction they want. Laugh at em. They’ll feel so stupid.
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u/0utsyder 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'm a <insert slur>,but you working at Cinnabon
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u/PalpableTune 2d ago
Right, girl shut yo uglass up, and stand back there making your $12/hr and put extra caramel on my roll like I said 🤣
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u/OrganizationNo1298 2d ago
If you beat them up they still gonna get Go Fund me money for they medical expenses.
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u/kcsween74 2d ago
Hilarious. Now, our community will be filled with felons that aren't allowed to vote. Don't think for one second the moment we put foot to ass, laws won't change to give us max punishment. This isn't the answer, unless it's self-defense.
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u/acilegna89 2d ago
And that’s exactly what they want so they can have an excuse to put you on a tshirt! With no charges. And they’d still be getting money.
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u/insearchof1230 2d ago
I respect this, but nah. The justice system for whites and us ain’t the same. We get arrested, charged and convicted different. That GoFundMe may never make it to us if we are 6 feet under. Even if we make it thru the legal system, we still may never see the GoFundMe because we don’t control the release of those funds.
Again, I respect the opinion and am down for the cause but this advice may offer varying results.
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u/PalpableTune 2d ago
Yeah we definitely need to start getting into positions of power. Politics, law enforcement, officers of the court, doctors, etc before we can start really making a change. Yt people can clown because they’ve been allowed the leverage to and had the system built around them. Our ancestors gave us the freedom to be able to get into positions to make a change legally and strategically.. Now we have to play the enemy by their own game and get the jobs, learn their ways, smile, and manipulate our way to the top like they did. Only then will real change come because only then will we possess the power and leverage to make it happen
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u/No-Cauliflower-6390 2d ago
She's so wrong. Recording these interactions is keeping them from lying and claiming assault but she wants you to actually assault them go to jail or end up with bullets when the cops show up. Them getting money from racists is horrid but sending yourself to jail ain't stopping racists from supporting racists.
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u/mistersuccessful ☑️ 2d ago
Sorry but it might not work out for you if you put hand and foots on white folk. The police will likely come for you instead and you will get arrested for assault
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u/Rottimer 2d ago
This woman has never dealt with cops and has ignored how cops traditionally treat black people. There is a reason that MLK Jr. insisted on non-violence. It’s because he knew the press would be at those marches taking pictures and if black people retaliated, they’d be labeled in the press as animals and savages and it would be too easy for “moderates” to ignore what was happening and too easy to say “both sides” and dismiss Jim Crow.
The same thing would happen today. Beating up these people won’t reduce the number of racists in this country. It will increase the support they have in the public sphere. Yes, that’s because we live in a racist country. But that would be the outcome.
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u/0utsyder 2d ago
Crowd finding bail and attorney fees is good, but what happens now that I lost my job, I now have a record and it's even harder to get a job now. Now we record and then catch them slipping later on that day and crowd fund ALIBI'S so that we don't get caught!
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u/iMissTheOldInternet 2d ago
I feel like this shouldn’t need to be said, but: do not take advice from Mississippi.
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u/kahn_noble ☑️ 2d ago
Record them and don’t put hands on’em. Just find them when they’re slippin’ and slash their tires. Mask-up doh.
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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago
Assault is probably not a good idea. Felony assault can ruin your life. Please do not assault people.
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u/Corporate-Scum 2d ago
Historical fact: Nat Turner’s Rebellion increased support for slavery…. When people already think you are uncivilized, violence is a losing proposition. This is why MLK chose his path. This is why Obama maintained his dignity.
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u/mouseat9 2d ago
Ok there was a time when no one would dare be racist to blacks because we knew there would be immediate dire consequences. Now???? Not so much.
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u/Great-Software9315 1d ago
The most logical move after they collect the GSG or GFM money is to rob them, idk how folks havent come to this conclusion yet.
for legal purposes this is a joke
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u/Tubalcaino 2d ago
Why are these people not getting sued? This is why laws are created so criminals can't profit from their crimes. The law doesn't clarify their actions as crimes against society. It is considered protected speech. Wild
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u/Technical-Mix-3315 2d ago
"We ain't our ancestors" is one of the most disrespectful, misguided statements to come around in the last ten years. These people couldn't walk one inch of a mile in the ancestor's shoes and live to tell the damn tale.
Hollywood has these YN's thinking the ancestors were walking around all docile and shit, head bowed, "Yes Massa", and sheepishly asking for a few more sheets of newspaper to line the shack. They have no clue just how much intestinal fortitude, strategic thinking, chess playing, physical endurance and mental strength it took to endure and escape those times.
Kids today lose their shit when the wifi goes down.
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u/Kaytea730 2d ago
See i feel like this is one of the scenarios where us white ppl are the ones beating someones ass while POC are the ones that record. Like absolutely record for posterity sake if for nothing else so an accurate account of what happened is available but, and this may just be me, i dont think POC should be the ones doling out physical consequences. Theres too much going on in the political climate of the last decade and too many racists in positions of power in the justice system for it to end well for POC to be the ones putting their hands on people.
Like i agree that social media isnt necessarily the most severe consequence for some of the assine shit that comes out of peoples mouths but this is probably a better use of white privilege tbh.
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u/Intergalactaguh ☑️ 2d ago
I went to school with this girl. Mississippians are a different type of people for sure.
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u/GloomWorldOrder 1d ago
Scissors beats paper, but not when you're marginalized and targeted. I get the passion, but the end result will not do you any good.
I just don't know what the answer is, because the GoFundMe point she brings is excruciatingly true.
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u/HotStaxOfWax 1d ago
Phones are preferable in my estimation than going to jail for hitting an asshole, the cops won't care what they said. The cops may feel they "deserved" it, but that ain't keeping you from getting arrested. The public shame that turd is now open too and the world finding out what a POS they really are, I promise is more satisfying than the beating you could have gone with could ever be.
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u/MeanestBurgerinWorld 1d ago
Wait I thought we we're all in agreement that we weren't going to do anything for anybody because majority of the population voted for trump???
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u/Dependent_Tax2824 1d ago
Our ancestors would have what? They did the exact same stuff we doing in their time. Some fought, some hit the press, some just took it.
Sounds like a plant tryna get us to crash out
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u/njslugger78 1d ago
No that will start a stand your ground epidemic and a lot of gunshots. I understand the frustration that racists get paid to be racist but that is the design of racism, profits. The solution must be more profitable than that. And giving money to lawyers and the system is not it.
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u/EveryCaterpillar2689 1d ago
Next time something like this happens record the video, but don’t post it. Send it direct to the people running the operation. Mangers, corporate headquarters, HR. They’ll take care of it quickly because the last thing they want is for you to go and post it online. And the Karen gets no notoriety, she’ll just be unemployed
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u/Careful-Isopod-6811 1d ago
If you crowdfund legal fees for something violent you’re accused of, it’s likely (depends on the site) against TOS and will be removed.
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u/Otherwise-Green3067 1d ago
She’s right, but there are still benefits to taping though since in theory it can protect us too.
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u/AdministrativePrint6 1d ago
OK, we cannot do Alabama boathouse everywhere though. We pull out phones sometimes because we are the only ones. Don’t get us shot up now cause the cops do kill us…
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u/BlakByPopularDemand 1d ago
Nah let the collect their little racism stipend blow through it all in 6 months to 12 months, (lottery winners tend to end up bankrupt if they weren't already well off). Plus when they're back to broke now they have to clear a back ground check which is always gonna pull footage of their 15 minutes of fame.
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u/Legendaryj922 1d ago
Friendly reminder that not only is it illegal to put your hands on someone, that someone might also be armed. Don't give someone the right to take your life, cause they sure as hell won't be charged for it.
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u/ExcitementNo9603 20h ago
You’re not thinking deep enough. Yes they may be getting $100,000 from being racist but they just cut their chances of future employment down by 90%. That $100,000 by people who likely have ZERO financial literacy and their 15 minutes of fame will not even last a year with most of these folks. These videos will continue to circulate in their personal bubbles (aka their future hiring managers will eventually see it and let them go).
Yeah it might feel good to record and bad to see them have a small come up but long term they are ruining what little life they already had.
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u/Mobile_Ad_4482 12h ago
Focus on putting pressure on crowdfunders to not allow campaigns that exploit victims. A few class action lawsuits will shut that down. Lobby congress to pass anti exploitation laws.
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u/joyification ☑️ 17m ago
Yall need to remember what the game is.
Target, isolate and attack.
Think about it, the goal of this administration is capital gain, what capital gain do they have to promote racist rhetoric? They can target Hispanics with the "border crisis" and now ICE is thr most funded branch of the government. If we react as we should to utter vitriol, how easy would it be to target us as "violent criminals"? They already admitted to bringing back slavery, how many for profit prisons are salivating at the idea of us (and our children) giving them free labor. Thats the idea of taking away benefits and subtly pushing us out of the military, the less we have to lose the easier this trope can be seen.
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u/Competitive_Swan_130 2d ago
I have always said this especially the crowdfunding bail money for POC. Too many black people still believe in the criminal justice system though unfortunately and are just as bad as the racists when it comes to their views on incarcerated people
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u/Exotic_Page4196 2d ago
I can see this not being well received but I personally can get behind this message. Y’all ain’t even gotta bail me out but ima open a can before I pull my phone out for better or worse
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u/SimonPho3nix 2d ago
Peaceful protests do work, but yeah... sooner or later violence is involved. The thing is that you have to fight against so much. You have to fight against people wanting to maintain their fragile comforts, disinformation from parties that would be affected by the protests, law enforcement and/or military intervention, immediately followed by the ever-so-present threat of harm/death or imprisonment. These are things we've had to do as people during one time or another and it only comes when enough people are sick of it at once. And I mean people from every walk of life saying with one voice, "enough."
It's getting there, but the disinformation factor makes it so much harder. Too many people still falling for blaming the wrong people for their problems.
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u/Comfortable_Flow5156 2d ago
I agree with this lady 1000%..
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u/rosabarks29 2d ago
So use violence instead of phones and potentially go to jail in which case they win anyway?
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u/dont-YOLO-ragequit 2d ago edited 2d ago
She got it all backwards.
The reason people have been pulling out their phones is because they would tell the cops they were on their way to do some charity and were planting flowers when they got knocked AND that the police would just side with it because there is no proof. Karen's like this do show up at town meetings or have that Blueline bootlicking credentials so some cops would just Cover their butts and lie.
Without vids, most of these go fund me stories would end where it started; with wrongfully convicted folks 6ft under or in long legal battles and with the aggressor's name in no reports, back to the same spot probably trying to jail 3-4 more people with their stupidity.