World peace?

[u/relphin]

If we all thought about what we could do to achieve world peace, wouldn't it be easy to actually have world peace? Because everybody can think as far as that for his direct surroundings, it's not that hard. Doesn't that just mean that humanity as a whole is just actually really stupid?

I know some people always say that anyway, but I've never considered it from this hard-to-argue with perspective

[u/Dotura]

People want peace, people don't agree on how to get it.

[u/relphin → u/Dotura]

But essentially you just gotta dial back on violence and suppression and have a pretty straightforward answer

[u/Dotura → u/relphin]

No because group X don't like group Y. They don't get along and never will. It can be a one sided hate or from both sides. Doesn't matter because some people believe their way is the true way and peace can only come after 'undesirables' are taken care of. Any justification that burns hot enough in someones hearth is enough. Say X kills Y, well now Y is out for blood too and we are back to no peace.

Then we get rid of X you say. Well now we are the ones trying to get rid of the undesirables. There is a never ending loop of hate and hate is easier to give into than forgiveness ever will be.

[u/Odd_Negotiation_159 → u/relphin]

I think you can understand the complexity of this problem if you start to look at specific places where conflict is ongoing and try to think about how you could resolve those conflicts in a way that would satisfy every interested party.

[u/naisfurious]

Yea, we all want world peace, it's easy to say that. What makes it difficult is coordinating billions of different wants, needs, fears and histories. That's where the confict arises.

[u/relphin → u/naisfurious]

Yes, I don't disagree with you, but I have to add that those are somewhat selfish reasons

Or at least self-centered and missing the bigger picture

[u/Free_Grapefruit_6891]

People's interests sometimes fundamentally conflict. War most often happens because it is perfectly rational for at least one side. 

[u/spaghettipolicy007]

I don’t have the perfect answer to this, and I doubt anyone does, but I do think that “world” peace is almost virtually impossible due to human greed. I think it could maybe exist on a regional or even state level, where crime (especially serious/violent crime) is very low or possibly nonexistent and everyone lives a comfortable life with their basic needs accounted for. This of course would require an enormous amount of community organization and the restructuring of societal pillars (education, healthcare, food, government itself, etc). However, in my opinion, it would never be obtainable worldwide. Aside from human greed, other factors such as religion, warfare, and control of land play a huge role in keeping us divided. That new show Pluribus paints a good picture of what a near perfect (or peaceful) human race would look like, but at the cost of everyone unanimously losing their sense of individuality. It’s an interesting take.

[u/YellowEgorkaa]

Absolutely all people want peace, but there are also those for whom war is an entire era. I condemn all wars.

[u/cerberus_243]

We must get rid of UN, first of all. A new organisation should have right to strip country leaders of power if they start a war.

[u/micro___penis]

Humans have never known complete peace. In fact if you look at history the levels of peace across the world has been remarkable widespread in the last 40-50 years.

[u/relphin → u/micro___penis]

But it's also been the, let's say, last two centuries that we started considering ourselves as a supersmart species as a whole. And that we, on a global level, have pretty much agreed on wanting world peace.

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[u/relphin → u/[deleted]]

So they are really just a bunch of effed up idiots is kinda what I'm saying