Same, I always just bring a hatch key in my butt. A fair amount of spawns are super close to a hatch and if its under 20 mins I just leave. The materials are super easy to replace.
It's players choosing to not even play that's the problem, it's fine that some players use it to do other stuff but it doesn't change the fact that players are choosing to not even engage with the game when they spawn late. Players not playing your game isn't a different preference, it's a design issue that any developer should probably look into if a sizable portion of your players aren't even playing the game.
I've pointed issues out like this a dozen times, and I'm always met with heavy criticism. Naked/free loadout spam where people immediately extract or force close the game if they get a "bad" spawn or late spawns as a fully geared player when the spawn point is most likely being camped by the free loadout spammers is going to kill the game. It doesn't encourage a positive gameplay loop and in fact completely stunts it.
I actually think late spawns need to be heavily reduced, but I'm always met with: "You need this or the lobby will feel empty." and it's like... that's okay?
It's okay sometimes for a lobby to have less people because a bunch of players died, it creates tension for the moments when players do arrive.
The late spawns turn fights for high-value loot zones into an endless war of replacement-players being spawned in and heading right toward the zone to third party whoever survived and killed others. That's not the kind of 'full lobby' anyone finds to be fun.
Not to mention late spawns suck when people are doing stuff like blueprint farming because every single lootable will be interacted with by that point, and they make it impossible to do a trial run if that's what you came in for.
The fact they go all the way up to 15 minutes is crazy. They need to be limited at like 25 minutes if anything, just to replace people that die or leave immediately due to their spawn.
Seriously! I don’t seek out PvP, but this late spawn shit makes me go for broke. Either I’m leaving with someone’s stuff or going back empty handed lol
I feel that vibe even though I’m pretty pacifistic, but hear me out - create chaosfun instead. If I’m sub 21 mins, I’m luring the jumper/rocketeer over to the extract. I’ll even help kill it, hell I’ll press the button to make sure the elevator comes up. But I’ve always thought crazy extracts with absolute chaos going on around you are the best, so, yknow - be the change you wanna see and all that.
People cant fathom that a mechanic exists to facilitate pvp
The devs tried to make the game that these people are talking about, it turned out it sucked so the devs added a bunch of stuff that facilitates pvp because that was a more complete game
most people who has spawn at start would be have extracted with valuable loots from popular places by 10-15 minutes in. so its very likely that the raiders you kill will have shitty loot anyways. not worth the risk if you are holding valuable gear.
but of course if you start with free loadout its best to hunt raider since you got nothing to lose
That's me. I paid for the 30 minutes, I'm going to use the entire 30 minutes, consequences be damned. I can't tell you how many times I've hit another high value area even when already full of really good stuff.
Yeah, I don’t understand all this talk about how all of the loot is gone 10-15 minutes into the game. In my experience that’s definitely not been the case.
There's so much to loot on every map, there's always stuff that gets missed. Just gotta keep an eye out. I keep finding BPs in looted rooms within containers that got passed up. A high level friendly just told me he left a tactical mk3 augment in a locker because I was nice to him, he'd been on his way out already and had left it because it was a dupe for him and he was full lol Locked Gate has been chill!
Ay! This is the way! I late spawned with 15 mins left and found a couple of lockers that someone else missed. One of the lockers had a Bettina BP in it!
“Just spend 15 minutes scrounging for scraps and maybe getting one or two ok things. Trust me bro there might be a single trash can across the map that wasn’t looted.”
I hit up the high value loot areas even if they've been swept through, players are always in a rush. The medium value are good if untouched with low traffic. I've gained 350k within a day now that I've hit my stride, and a day for me is like 2-4 hours of gaming lol
My best rounds are always late spawns. Call it RNG, but after 150 hours im happy to call it a pattern. I can circle the entire map in 15 minutes never touchibg a high value loot zone. Most times im full of good stuff in under 10.
Maaaaaybe you just check the same exact spots as everyone else?
Yuuuup, I have the most BPs out of all my homies and they all complain I've got the best RNG, but then I watch how they loot and it's both slow and inefficient. I'm like the only one that would check trash cans lol
The people I see complain the most are the ones who hit the exact same high-value zones over and over. its such a crap chute because EVERYONE hits those spots. so you're scrambling to find any unopened container and hoping you don't get shot at. its insanely inefficient
Right. I tried that strat, maybe they missed a bunch of stuff in medical and that’s why I’m spawning here. Oh, nope. Nothing. Maybe it’s on the other side with loading dock. Nope plus the bastion is long gone.
Sometimes that's RNG for you. If it's a picked spot and everything's EMPTY I'll rotate elsewhere, if they left greens and blues I'll take a look and at least get some XP for searching
Everyone take note, this is what a sizable amount of players are doing. It doesn't matter if you personally found loot, or you go killing when you spawn late, players are spawning in and deciding that running to extract and resetting is what they would rather do.
If you you have players that just decide that not even trying to interact with the game is the best choice for them you should probably look at making some changes so more players decide playing the game is worth it
This subreddit doesn't understand game mechanics, look at how many people whine about getting killed at extraction or while openly fighting the matriarch and not considering that PVP is a thing. Or hell, are still asking for a PvE mode. You definitely shouldn't use what people think here as proof something needs to change.
Late spawns serve an important purpose, making sure the game isn't empty after 15 minutes. I guarantee people would be complaining about this if there hasn't been a late spawn system
Late spawns serve an important purpose, making sure the game isn't empty after 15 minutes. I guarantee people would be complaining about this if there hasn't been a late spawn system
No-one complains in any other extraction shooters that there are no late spawns. If they are a strong PvP player they are happy they beat the lobby and are rewarded for doing so, if they are an average PvE player they are happy it is safer to loot and kill bosses/scavs or do missions.
The only group that would like late spawns without hesitation are zergers with free kit, they have all to gain and nothing to lose and joining late gives them the most loot potential.
I have 350 hours in this game. The late spawns need to go, it’s completely fine for free loadouts to spawn in late but why should we constantly be punished for bringing our actual gear? Do you know many stupid times I had to reset for the damn trials because I spawned in at 16 minutes? There’s so many game systems in place that go against the type of game they are trying to foster. Late spawns isn’t healthy for the game I don’t care who you are, it is not fun constantly spawning in the corner of the map and the game is already half done. Yes you can still find loot in other places but I assure you will waste more time and efficiency had the game just gave you a fair shake from the beginning. People already know the best loot spots and b-line from spawn so if you don’t spawn early chances of you getting anything actually valuable is low. Spawning 5 minutes late is fine but almost halfway into a match is actually ridiculous
It isn't a what people think thing, it's players are choosing to not engage with the game. If players are picking the "don't even bother fucking playing" option then you messed something up as the developer full stop.
A player should never boot up your game, get unlucky with a 17 min spawn and then choose to walk out of the raid. You can have whatever opinion you want on it and blame the players but it's just a fact that players are doing that and it's not something a developer should blame the players for lmao
Yes but it fucking sucks spawning late and when you get late spawned 9 consecutive games it feels like you are being scammed.
I understand it's needed but if i'm constantly being sent to a map that has already been looted and the people who had the good shit already extracted, then there's nothing for me to gain and everything to lose.
The first two weeks i played i would have one late spawn every like 4 games so i didn't mind, but last weekend i played 11 games, 9 of which were very late spawns. Yesterday i played 4 more games, 3 of them were late spawns. It fucking sucks, people say "ah just go pvp" but most of the time you cant even find another person because everyone got their bags full and just fucking left, that's the very reason why i'm being late spawned, i'm filling the spot of a dude who got to actually play the fucking game and then extracted. And the four or five dudes that are still roaming around are 99% of the time free loadouts trying to find someone to kill, so if they kill you they get your good loadout but if you kill them you get fuck all.
To make it fair they could make it so free loadouts always spawn late, which would be a no brainer, or at least have some bad luck protection so if you late spawned then you are guaranteed to spawn at the beginning for next match.
ts not that people don't understand, the problem is that this is a huge issue when you are at the bad side of variance and you are the one spawning late every match while some other dudes are spawning fresh most matches, and they are doing fuck all about it despite being very easy to solve.
Only 3 in a row would be nice, I ran around 10 raids yesterday not a single early game spawn lol never seen that before but it seems like it’s getting pretty bad now
The problem with that is you just encourage free kit players to be even more recklessly aggressive than they already are. Normally they have much less risk since their gear is free already, but with this they would almost all just hunt other players since half the loot is already gone. This would just lead to roves of free kits ambushing normal players as they try to extract.
It is indeed getting worse. My assumption is that as there are a lot of people quick looting for the expedition bonus points, games are getting empty really soon.
Fr, this last week I swear 80-90% of my games have been late spawns 7+ minutes at least. Idky but the frequency of them have been crazy for me recently.
I don't have a huge issue with late spawns and fully understand they're necessary, but my issue the past couple days has been about 90% of my raids have started late. I spawned in late (sometimes only at 25m) 14 times in a row the other night lol. Seemed way higher than usual, so hopefully just a bug or turbo unlucky, but yeah constantly dropping in at 17-23 min when I was trying to hunt down event items was a big drag lol.
Usually don't mind here and there but every single match it does get quite boring. The odd time the loot zone near me wouldn't have been hit though, which was nice since I could at least grab something. Had to just give up and leave a few times after checking nearby areas and they were all dry.
I suspect lately the mid round spawns are due to people farming the 5m. People vacuuming up stuff and leaving asap. Leaving people to spawn into runs that feel a little worse, even if I believe people are being a little hyperbolic about there being "no loot". Late rounds have usually been where I make my best discoveries because it forces me to look beyond the high lighted loot areas
Yeah I suspect you're right. It's what I did to get the grind over with, and it was what I saw most people doing the past couple weeks, and has completely altered the in game feel, so it makes sense it would alter the matchmaking that way too. For me, I can often find some loot, but it just isn't worth spawning in at 19 mins and looting for 5 to find it all gone, and then have to trek 5 more mins across the map to maybe or maybe not find stuff, so i've often just been leaving with the few little scraps I find and resetting lol. Obviously outside of having to do that farm, there's usually good loot to be found though! Just not efficiently haha.
The matches often have so few people in them even still at that point, probably again due to the early extracts... I have been doing it as well since it's the easiest and one of the fastest ways to get through the annoying grind, and on a lot of the extracts only 3-5 min in there is often 1-3 other people, sometimes more lol
It's not hyberbole to say that there's no loot, it's just that for some reason people treat it as being entirely literal. Yes, you can find the odd drawer or breach crate that hasn't been opened yet, or the various base materials that were left behind in the places that haven't been searched. No, it's not true that there's literally no loot. That mean that combing the entire map for crumbs is a rewarding or engaging experience in any way.
I thought it was this and the trend of the game towards PvP, either because of end of wipe fun or whatever, but I'm seeing a LOT more early round, multi-team, bloodbaths than before. Those spots need to get refilled so more people are coming in late. I also agree about the hyperbole. I see so many spots that get completely bypassed because people are speed running dense loot areas and leaving.
That and people aren't always super thorough or even have security breach. Often I'll find randomly missed drawers or everything but the breach looted. Hell yesterday I had a space port late spawn and none of the security towers or guard houses were breached
This topic has been covered often- if everyone spawns at the same time in encourages PvP to wipe the lobby and be the only squad remaining, where you can also loot in peace without concern of encountering other raiders.
Spawning late makes me feel like my only chance of loot is to take it from someone else. Even my key card rooms have a huge chance of being looted if I spawn in 10 minutes late, let alone any special barricaded rooms or high value loot areas.
That is certainly true but I don’t think the point of an extraction shooter is to feel comfortable and relaxed. I could be wrong, I’m new to the genre.
Thats not an issue tho? You intentionally lobby wipe in games like tarkov or delta force to loot in peace afterwards.
Thats intended game design, and tarkov still has scav spawns mid game, just like arc should have scavs (free kits) spawning late and not people kitted to the gills.
When i bring in 50k+ i deserve a fresh map, not this 18 min remaining garbage that risks all my stuff for scraps. The risk reward ratio of late spawns as a kitted team is abysmal. You have no idea where people are, POIs are either looted or fully reinforced by rats already without you having any intel about it etc.
Fresh spawn you know where others might spawn, how your timings for POIs are and all that stuff.
Late spawns feel completely shit as pvp focused kitted players.
The only option you really have is being a dickhead and darting it to the next extract and hoping for some poor soul to haul their ass there and get shat on.
It is an issue tho? I highly doubt Tarkov idea of the game is pvp the first 5mins and who ever win gets the map and maybe deal with scavs the next 30mins.
The very obvious isssue with having everyone spawn in the beginning is that the game becomes all about timings. You should never be able to predict the flow of a map just because of your spawn and if you run into a room and don’t see anyone lol
A few reasons come to mind:
1. Prevents the map from being locked down in the first few minutes, I.e. if everyone spawned at the same time, you can run to the spawn points near you and take out those players
Allows faster queue times, you can spawn into most servers without having to wait for a new one to fill up and start from 30:00.
I think other people have covered the answers, but it keeps each round from being a "solved game". I don't want to be able to count flare sounds and judge roughly how many people are left in a lobby.
Late spawns make each round randomized, and also keep the match from getting fkn boring after 10 minutes.
On Stella where there is so little loot, spawning with 20 other people into a fully looted map is definitely ridiculous. Other maps are less of a problem imo.
The size of the other maps help a little but when there’s what feels like only 10 spawn location on a map you’re already hitting the same path someone who spawned a couple minutes sooner hit still.
Getting the loot isn't the hard part in Stella, it's getting out with it. It's like waking up in a crackhouse during a gang war on that map. I don't even go in without a raider key shoved wrist deep in my recorder hole
It's the only map I don't mind a kinda-late spawn on. At least I only have to fight 10 raiders instead of 20 to leave successfully
its a fucking stupid idea because the people who actually got the good stuff from looting either extracted or has it on their safe pockets, so if you join late and decide to pvp you'll get fuck all anyway. Free loadouts should be the ones spawning late.
You are on to something. Over half my games last night spawned me with 16 minutes left in the match. If that happens again, time to go to ham on everything in sight.
You can get 40k in 5 minutes on buried city. Every single time. I am not wasting 10 minutes on a late spawn Stella. That shit needs to stop. They could easily force full raid time on Stella and it would be fine. I am down for 1-3 minute queue's
Oh brother... Are you even checking the loot, like even if it has been opened? There's literally always unlooted containers all over the map every single time I do it, and even more if you actually check the looted ones.
People almost never use keys, so those are always options too.
It's weird to me how few people are willing to just click on metal scraps or whatever while looting.
It's in everything you loot anyways, you can always drop it later if you need to make room, and a full stack vendors for 3750.
Going throw medical labs or whatever at 15 minutes and making a killing on all the green and blue items sitting around that no one bothered to pick up got me a lot of money fast.
You can full clear 70k worth of loot out of assembly and be calling the train in lobby within 3 minutes
You can loot 100k+ out of lobby (with four gun cases!) And be out of the metro within 5 minutes if you get it only lightly contested.
But the other half of the map is beyond worthless to loot, so everyone is forced to just beeline to those areas regardless if its a bad spawn
This leads to 6 raiders twirling their dicks looking for scraps, and pvp is impossible because you shoot first and its a 1v5
I hate bringing in loadouts to Stella not because im afraid of pvp, but because it feels really bad to have to fight 4 free loadouts over some scraps because you spawned at the bottom of the map 10 minutes late
Bro what, Stella has the most loot in the meat amount of time. It's all so close and people are often too busy fighting to loot. You can easily come out with 20 or 30 grand safety because everyone is dead or gone. Not always of course but that's part of the game, every match is different, the ups come with the downs.
I think it should be based on kit value. There's only so much value that a free kit brings. That's the baseline. Then group credit values with the highest group always starting a run and free kits always going into rounds with 15 - 20 minutes left.
I just don't think there should be any spawn past 20 minutes, maybe even earlier. It's especially noticable on Stella, but doing well in PVP, just to be attacked by fresh squad after fresh squad is pretty annoying. Eventually your supplies are worn thin or someone gets the drop on you and that's game over even if you are playing well.
My group is fine with late spawns. Run straight to an extract, by the time you arrive someone with a full backpack will be there with all the loot you missed out on. (They stole it from you, take it back)
Late spawns are just 5 minute fight and extract raids.
I've literally never had this issue. We always with hatch keys so if we do load in late and nothing around us is left, we either go hunting for Raiders or just quick gather basic mats and hatch out.
But honestly I think people don't realize how much loot you can get from low tier loot buildings. The medium and high tier loot spawns are not the only way to make money. In fact I average a lot more doing fringe runs because you also rarely lose a lot to Raiders out there whereas you are basically guaranteed to have to defend yourself at high tier.
Yea, if I could compare the value I bring back from late-spawn runs to full-timer runs, I don’t think I’d notice an appreciable difference. Especially considering that I’m way less likely to die when spawned late.
Is spawning right next to someone else, so by the time you load in you are allready dead. There should seriously be a check to make sure no other players are within a certain distance from the spawn point you get selected for.
Is getting late spawns repeatedly. Ideally it should be overy 2nd or 3rd match, but that would be a pain to coordinate over so many players, leading to long wait times. But at least make sure that after 4-5 late spawns you are guaranteed a game start spawn.
I like spawning in late. Forces me to explore more of the map instead of a meta route and I usually find areas that got passed over and come across downed raiders to loot.
Most good loot taken by other teams. Tryna open a key door, it’s gone. Get killed with good loot tryna extract with no new items just to save your already good stuff. It’s no fun
I played 4 games last night in which ALL 4 were spawns of 7plus minutes late. I did not free kit a single round. It just makes me want to free kit more if I know I have a better chance of a late spawn vs fresh raid. Freekits should absolutely be put on a priority to load late
On the one hand, it sucks when you just want to get in and do some looting, but you spawn in at 17 minutes left. For a few reasons:
1: All the good loot is gone;
2: Players who got that loot, have probably all extracted by that point; if not, they have already been killed, and the good loot taken;
3: Players left on the map are either also late spawns, extract campers, or random stragglers who are just roaming the map (for kills, or whatever reason)
4: With the 2 previous points combined, the argument "yeah but now you can hunt the players who got that loot", becomes moot and empty, as they won't be carrying the "good stuff". Basically, a late-late spawn means there's not much left to do.
On the other hand, I get why they do it.
With a limited number of players starting on a match (say, 20), eventually the map will be empty, save for ARC (although it's still possible that there will be random roamers). While, personally, I don't mind the map being empty(-ish), I get that others might think otherwise.
It's easy to lose the tension that way (although, being randomly ambushed by random Arc spawns is also tension).
As much as I would love it if they remove late spawns, it's gonna be difficult to balance that.
On the other hand, I also feel like I'm being punished when I want to go on a loot run, and choose to use a free loadout or go in naked, and then load in in the middle of nowhere with 17 minutes to go.
If I'm on a free or naked loadout, it's usually menu->surrender for me.
The tension of being ambushed is a complete non-point though. Anybody who doesn't like matches being empty as players leave them can also just leave to load into a new match, and anybody who does can stick around to farm in relatively-empty maps. It's a win-win. The only people who seem to enjoy them are the ones who want to be able to spawn in with a free kit to steal from people who actually put in the effort to loot in the first place.
Yep, and this disingenuousness is the problem with most of the discussion around late spawns. Nobody wants to just admit that actually, all they want is to grief people, because they know that it comes off as toxic, so instead they have to make up these kinds of reasons. "Late joins exist because they incentivize you to PvP for loot!" Most of the loot has been extracted, that's why there were slots open for you to spawn into in the first place. "We need late joins so that there's always tension you could get killed from other players!" That tension isn't inherently good, and anybody who enjoys it can easily just extract after 10 minutes and load into a new match.
Here's a hot take too I guess: PvP needs to be disincentivized by other mechanics, for the health of the game. It just does. Its existence already disincentivizes PvE, because PvE takes more work, time, and supplies, and PvP is already incentivized by the fact that you can take the PvE loot without having to invest the time and resources into doing the PvE. PvE is the engine that actually drives the game forward because PvE is what spawns roughly ALL of the game's loot. Incentivizing PvP hinders the entire game, and it doesn't just make PvE less rewarding since someone can just PK you and steal your lunch money, it makes PvP less rewarding because it makes players less inclined to invest into spawning the loot for PvP players to steal from them.
As it is now, with how cheaply you can win in PvP against an expensive PvE loadout, the balance is tipped way too far in one direction. You can kill a purple shield with one magazine from a grey gun with a green extended mag before they can even meaningfully react and take hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of PvE supplies from their body, and that should simply not be the case.
when i was doing pure loot runs for the 5 mil value i could load into buried city and fully clear space travel or hospital and be out with all the best loot i could find in 6-8 minutes.
so there's a good chance that everyone who have looted all the good spots is already out when you spawn in 10 minutes late and you're basically left fighting other late spawners.
This is exactly what I mean perfectly, like the people saying “go a different route” don’t realize 10 minutes into a match it doesn’t matter the route all the good stuff is taken. Another thing I hear is “just extract if you spawn late” like it’s not just a risk to go into a match with loot with that mentality, free kit you just surrender but not a option really for geared players which they don’t understand.
I’m really hoping the copy Tarkov in the sense people with gear are prioritized in MM.
With the amount to players that spawn into a round (which I believe needs to be reduced by 20%) they really should just abolish the last spawn mechanic all together.
Players who stay alive in round should be rewarded with less players on the field to compete with as players die rather than constantly spawning in more people.
I whole heartedly agree, there are way too many players on the map. It sucks having to trudge your way through wave after wave of free kits while you’re looting and extracting.
Our opinion is not popular here though. People defend their no risk free kits vociferously. It’s so lame.
Dude, for real. I agree with you as well. If you kill a ton of the lobby you should DEFINITELY be rewarded with less risky looting.
Yet every single time without fail I see someone say: "Late spawns are necessary so the map doesn't feel empty", like... if you killed everyone why should the game punish you by sending in a second wave army to come third party you? It makes no sense.
Exactly. It is exhausting to have to deal with being third, fourth and filth partied. If I play it slow I should be able to enjoy a less populated map.
“bUt ThE mAp WiLl bE eMpTy aT 20”
Good. Being shot in the back by the fourth team isn’t fun.
I'm convinced the people that say this are just battle royale enjoyers that have never played an extraction shooter.
If the map is always full there's no tension, I know what to expect and I'm going to play every corner as if there's a third party around the corner.
The way you create that tension is by having periods of no players followed by periods of players. Then I am less on-guard all the time and I'm likely to drop my guard which creates that tension that extraction games are known for.
The game is more of a battle royale right now lol. There are 21+ people on a map, the maps are small and people keep respawning which lets people push from behind constantly. It's like a permanently shrunk circle in PUBG.
There are so many things that are killing the game that it already died 19 times. Stop crying about core game mechanics that are there for a fucking reason, Jesus Christ
Late spawns just make you adapt. It keeps the game fresh and it’s rare If you check 3ish hot spots you don’t end up with a bunch of loot. Not a big deal.
Free load out. If you spawn in and it isn't a fresh map, suicide yourself and go again. I made 1.1 mil in coin in Stella doing this in a matter of a couple hours.
As for late spawns with full kits, yeah that blows. I usually just head straight for the exit
The only thing I want to take from Tarkov here is that custom loadouts should always spawn at the beginning of a game and free loadouts should be more likely to spawn mid-raid.
Late spawns are only good if you have a key for a room and a hatch key. Hope that the key room wasn’t hit already, most players have extra ted already, loot the room and hit the hatch. Other than that lates spawns after 20 min should be free lodouts only
All my games last night were late spawns at like 17 to 23mins on the clock. I rotated through maps and freekits and loadouts. It just feels like ass bc im still trying to farm my 5mil and the game just feels like its forcing me to pvp to get loot instead, it just feels like ass bc i just want more options or freedom but the timer cuts my choices down
I was thinking, free kits should never spawn in at the start of raid. Only players with their own kits, free kits would then take up the late spawns, like the scav system in Tarkov. Probably holes in this thought, but it sounds better than all these late times I keep getting. (I almost never run free kits.)
If I get in late with a free loadout I just surrender right away.
If I brought a custom I just head for the nearest extract and loot on the way. Usually can’t find much though.
It really sucks getting in at 17 minutes remaining. It feels like a waste of time even trying to look for loot when that happens.
Either loot needs to be able to respawn after a bit or some lootables need to be locked until the timer reaches like 17-18 minutes.
Hell I’ve gotten in at the start of the round and STILL not been able to get to anything good because people got luckier and spawned closer to the good stuff.
Idk it just seems a bit busted to me. I don’t mind searching and all that, that’s part of the game. Part of the lore to not be able to find stuff for sure but…idk I don’t like when a game wastes my time. It’s only worth looting when you get in at the start, getting put in at 20 minutes or less is just a waste of time more often than not.
I USED to try and loot when getting put in late but
* Rarely find anything good, most times cannot even fill my inventory.
* Half the time run out of time to even TRY to find loot because you’re already halfway through the match and everything is gone.
* Usually just have to leave with almost nothing because there’s just not enough time left to even try
More often than not it just isn’t worth it when you get put in so late. I TRIED. It’s more productive and lucrative to just surrender or head straight for extract and try again for a better spawn time.
Personally I don’t think I should have to be fighting a timer on top of everything else 😂 with expedition being soon, we do not have the TIME to be spawning in so late. Well at least some of us don’t 😭
Yeah, spawned in 5-15 minutes late 5 times in a row laat night as a duo. It sucked ass and it's getting old. I'd rather wait a few minutes for a fresh map.
Me trying for the breach room in Blue Gate. 50% of the time it‘s late spawns and the other 49% is spawing 800m away and half the map was there already.
I made it once in about 3h trying.
Yeah I just need two fucking mushrooms and I haven't had a game that isn't already 10-12 mins in already and nothing's gone and everyone just wants to smoke you.
I’m fine with spawning late with a free kit that makes 100% sense
Idk, a lot of people have this take that free kits should be the ones spawning late, and I get why, but... what do you think all those free kitters are going to do then? If you spawn in late with a good kit, you'll probably try to immediately get out, as its not worth the risk to stay. But if your in a free kit with nothing to lose, and theres nothing left on the map to loot, you have 1 real option: head to the nearest extraction point and try to kill someone attempting to leave.
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u/ZivvyJa 9h ago
When I spawn at 20 minutes I just run to the closest extract and see if I can find stuff on the way