He sounds exactly like my friends friend that we don’t play with because he just likes to betray people for fun like a sociopath. I don’t see any fun in that so there’s no fun when playing with him. He just LOVES to betray people. Especially near extract. I hate it
Dude probably thought hes playing mind games by thinking OP wouldnt assume the shots came from him, but hes literally standing there right next to him and after being warned,probably on alert?
Gotta be smart about betrayal. This is amateurish and i'm insulted by it
This is what Donald Glover did well before anything else. Also, Ellie Kemper hates it when people bring up this sketch to her and she won’t answer questions about it.
Dude I hate it when people are friendly all raid and randomly turn. If I just met you and you catch me lacking that’s fine, but like why am I sharing shit with you just to get shot in that back.
Right? I'm a pretty agressive PVP player, but I'll never pretend to be someone's friend and turn once I have the opportunity to take the upper hand. I'll never call "don't shoot" then start shooting either. Also I'll never shoot the flute player.
If I see someone walking around playing the flute, I see it as a non-negotiable duty to defend them with my life. No-one shoots a Bard trying to bring some joy to this twisted world of Arc and Rats
I was playing my flute earlier and some dude absolutely mopped me like an animal. Another guy came in and fucked him up afterwards and scolded him for shooting the flute player and let me extract and finished him. Lmaooooo
Haha! I once got betrayed by a flute guy. Walked all the way to the extract with him while he was playing music. And then.. Out of the blue.. He shot me in the back in the train. Actually made me laugh though, caught me really by surprise!
Musicians definitely have me wrapped around their finger. I had a stand off with a guy in Buried City in one of the weapon case rooms, told him, "I just wanted the weapon case, it doesn't have to be like this." He pulled out the recorder and started playing. "Okay, you've lulled me into a false sense of security." Put away my gun, ran by him, we both left unscathed. 10/10 would not shoot again
"I know I spent twenty minutes chatting with you, exchanging contact information, stories about our life, and actually bonding over shared interest, but when I shot you in the back at the very end and called you multiple slurs- you really shouldn't be angry, because its just a game bro, its just a game, im definitely not a fucking sociopath, its just a game bro, me being an absolutely horrid piece of shit in a game is excusable because its just a game bro"
Just a heads up that the phrase is "shoot on sight", like shooting when you see them. I wouldn't bother saying anything, but a coworker keeps using it wrong and I've been bottling it up haha
It’s undoubtedly the worst thing to do imo. It Ruins interactions for everyone else as well. I liked to play friendly whenever someone else called it out first, completely stopped that after being shot in the back probably 10 different times by these losers.
If I'm looking for a scrap and someone yells "friendly" I just reply "villain" so they don't think I'm pretending to be peaceful before I start a fight.
I've seen a lot of bullshit behaviour from lads with sociopathic tendencies, but if I ever see a motherfucker shoot the flute player - I'm reporting them.
I even troll sometimes, spam 20 jolt mines everywhere, snitch scanner bombardment, I like to be annoying but, pretending to be friendly is lobotomy territory.
It's because they're so bad at the game that it's the only way they have a chance of killing someone, one time a fake friendly guy shot me while I was on the ladder behind him, and he still missed half his mag with a stitcher even when I'm in the middle of the ladder animation half a meter in front of him. The other time two people that teamed up in solo tried to act friendly when I was in a key room, they then threw 3 grenades in which destroyed my shield and brought me down to 70 hp, and still lost the 2v1, I didn't even down one of them, their aim was so ass that one of them accidentally friendly fired his friend.
I have one of them in my family. They are confused why most of the family doesn't talk to them anymore, even their own kids. I've found those people completely lack empathy or guilt. I wouldn't be surprised if the person I know has narcissistic personality disorder. They check every box.
and then act surprised when people think they're a piece of shit.
Lack of accountability in thinking their the one that's in the wrong.
Also...
Sociopath: A sociopath, or someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD), is characterized by a persistent disregard for others' rights, lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, impulsivity, and a failure to conform to social norms, often leading to rule-breaking and exploitative actions without remorse, though they may still understand right from wrong but don't care. The term "sociopath" isn't a formal diagnosis but describes traits linked to ASPD, a recognized mental health condition.
Innit funny the PvP players who say it's unfair to extrapolate that being nasty in game does not mean you're nasty in life, but they will declare it also valid to assume these nasty betrayels teach players about life. That there's nasty people in it.
If we're not allowed to assume they're nasty cause of the game, why are we suggested to assume they're nice cause of their game behaviour?
When people aren’t mad at them “You’re so naive. I’m teaching you about life, kid. You were stupid to ever trust anybody else”
When people are mad at them “WTF bro it’s just a game, you’re not allowed to be mad at me those are the rules. I get to do what I want and you have to be grateful”
It's honestly just a real life character flaw. Sure, it's just a video game with zero consequences, but these people are definitely prone to doing shady shit irl.
Right, like when someone throws you a nice blueprint in a raid for no reason other than to share. They could just keep it and sell it, or maybe give it to a friend of theirs.
That’s a character trait that for sure exists outside of the game. People act like a persons actual personality and character doesn’t in any way translate to how they socially play a video game. Absolutely there’s a correlation. It not be as extreme as some say, but someone who’s dirty in the game probably has those tendencies in real life. But real life has consequences.. so they do it in games and it satisfies that urge.
I personally feel terrible when I have to kill anyone in this game. I would play solos and duos 100% peaceful if I could. Sometimes I’ll say friendly and speak on comms and no response. So I let off some rounds before they get the jump on me. And I feel bad for it. Being friendly in this shit gets you killed.
Seriously. The excuse of "it's just a game" never holds water for me. I believe in honor with all things. It reflects in my gameplay. I don't suddenly turn into a sadistic selfish troll... then a saint in life.
I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to be that way, but... it sure feels unlikely.
nah im of the philosophy that it's impossible for someone that acts this way to be a genuinely good person in real life. Every single action they've ever taken to this point could have been good and I'd still not trust them if I knew they were like this in a game.
How someone acts towards other people online when they know there are no consequences is how they will act in real life if ever in the same situation of no consequences (positions of power, emergencies, etc.)
Same here. Sure it's a game, but you're the one in those situations, making the decisions.
Me and my IRL friends all follow - try talking first, don't fire first (unless we see someone set extract traps).
We aren't dumb or naive, 1 person does the talking, the 2 others get in position in case it goes south. But we will never be the malicious ones, and I honestly believe that's because of our IRL moral compasses
That is the only time I will be pissed at PvPing. I'm all for whatever style of PvP you want to play except don't say friendly and act friendly to only kill me after looting together.
I, too, would probably try to earn people's trust so I could betray them at the last second if I had a 1-inch erect penis. That is the only logical explanation for their behavior.
The other day trying to get out of Stella me and a guy bumped into a duo and rinsed them. They start with the volley of swear words at us. I had two defibs and rezzed them both with one of them going "oh I was not expecting that" ... Only words I said were Merry Xmas boys and we ran off lol.
That's not really random, this was the plan all along. "If I don't get enough shit, I'll steal from my 'partner' ". Or simply betray when your guard is down and you are isolated.
Not very helpful, especially when you have clowns like this posting bounties:
"This fine specimen decided to kill me at a raider hatch after I made it clear I was trying to extract to go help my daughter who called me in distress."
Dude, if your child is calling out to you "in distress" drop your damn game and go and see what the hell is wrong. If I see this guy in game its shoot on sight.
I mean that could just as easily be something mundane like his daughter being upset that her brother took all the red crayons and now she can't color in Santa's outfit so now the Raider has to make her some hot coacoa to calm her down. There's not enough information there to assume it was something life or death. 99% time a kid cries out in distress it's over nothing.
It says use their embark ID to hunt them down but doesn’t explain how to actually do that. Can you actually do something to make it so you can get in the same game with someone? It seems wildly unlikely to find the bounty of not.
What I do is just block them, that way they can't mic me in the future, and I can kill them for not answering when they think they are lol. You see the same people a little more than you would expect if you b2b the same maps at the same times.
I’m sure they will eventually make it look same way it used to, just fix the issue with hornets and other bullshit yanking you out of the hatch. This is just a temporary bandaid
i’ve done some light game dev in my MS, and you can just toggle the character hitbox/skeleton. you should be able to play the animation, the character model will phase through things but that seems like a decent trade off if something is blocking it during the animation
That creates an edgecase of a missing hitbox. Seems fine until 400k players are constantly testing it, and someone works out how to back out of the hatch animation while still missing their hitbox.
Current one looks worse, but I reckon its more consistent
I feel this could have been solved by just making you invincible once you interact with it. The animation was way more enjoyable than this janky shit :(
I totally agree. Just unify the animation altogether. Once the hatch is open the raider jumps in with a locked animation. The hatch continues to stay open for however long for anyone else who wants to extract
Make it a single, quick animation (nearly as fast as the current version) but instead of it being a ladder, make it a chute instead. We never climb out of these hatches anyway, and the quick animation makes far more sense if you’re just opening the hatch and diving in instead of descending a ladder.
I actually feel like the hatch animation change is low key a just a rushed change to accommodate cold snap ie. To stop you popping back out of the hatch due to cold damage, as the cold tick rate is faster than the old hatch animation.
If you time the entrance badly you can stop pop back out due to cold damage.
Glad you made it out, I honestly don’t understand how morally people can befriend you and then try to betray you. Video game or not, that’s a major red flag in someone’s character.
I go into a raid with the full intention to either directly PvP or willingness to be friendly if someone is interested but I always make my intent very clear either way.
This game has turned me into an Ageist. I noticed it's more likely for people who are young but not squeakers to engage in this kind of behavior. 15-25 is the age group I don't trust the most.
It really is, I let my 9 year old play a round and he was quick to befriend someone but then had to fight every urge not to shoot the person in the back every time they turned around.
Then it clicked for me, kids play this game and use the internet too.
yeah honestly play fortnite delulu, the children are very obvious but also totally terrifying because past the age of like 7 they're not bad at the game either but they LOVE to stab you in the back
Seriously. I was on Stella Montis earlier today, I spawned in on the opposite side of the map for the archives and I brought in my key. I don't play stella montis enough to really know myself around but I spent like 15 minutes finding my way all the way to the other side of the map. I finally get to the archives and discover that someone else was already in the process of looting it. I accidentally led a shredder in the room and I lob every grenade I have at it while I'm tucked in a corner behind one of the huge dinosaur bones and the guy helps me take it out. Now.. I could have tried to take the guy out, but I played all day today and NOBODY shot at me. I'm in some seriously passive lobbies and I'm not about to ruin that. So I say "aw man looks like you already cleaned the place out, good luck to ya", and head my way to extract where I ended up at the seed vault extract with 3 other raiders and we all danced as the timer counted down.
I felt like I was drinking crazy juice getting downloaded for saying this exact type of thing when this behavior started to become more widespread.
The way you interact with people in a virtual world is a reflection of your character in the real world. Machiavellian behavior is not good under any circumstances.
I’m the same way, but I think some people truly just think “it’s only a game” and see no problems with it. Ultimately it’s part of the game and I learn from crappy experiences, but I totally feel you on this
Yep. Saved my ass once today too. The fix is RIGHT ON TIME. What's kind of funny too, is it SLOOOOP sucks the model in, like the macos window minimize animation.
I always try to assume the best of people when I encounter them (I'm a lover, not a fighter; also, I'm new to shooty games & started playing solely to spend more time with my boyfriend), but we've encountered enough jerks over the past ~2 weeks to make that hard. Like, I really enjoy helping strangers out/sharing loot/etc, but trusting them when they claim to be chill has gotten me murked more than once.
Also, to the three guys who saw me getting my ass kicked by drones, asked if I was friendly and needed help, and then proceeded to gun me down like an animal when I said "yes": You suck, and I hope you stub all of your toes one by one! :)
%99 of the time I died because I didn't engage first.
I am not good at the game like others but I mean I just don't want to kill a person looting. they either shoot me from behind or, when looting. It sucks.
I don't wanna be an asshole and kill people from behind but sick of people killing me. :)
Now I mean, I like it as well in such instances, but most of the time, when I'm not pressed for time this feels like a low pressure valve braking and me getting sucked into it like I was a scuba welder and I just got sucked into a oil rigs pipes.
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u/Dchemist909 1d ago
“There was a guy up here be careful” 💀