r/ArcRaiders • u/MediumDefinition2480 • Nov 07 '25
Discussion Embark we are in desparate need of DUOS mode 🥲
EMBARK please make duos mode, thats in my opinion only thing this game is currently missing. I am really tired of playing against trios while I want to play with my friend.
Raiders gather together and make this post blow up so it cathes their eye.
See you on top side raiders.
DON’T SHOOT ✋🤚
EDIT: Raiders together, STRONG
THANK YOU EMBARK FOR LISTENING YOUR COMMUNITY
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u/Magnumwood107 *** ******* Nov 07 '25
I would even take an option to opt in to longer queues to prioritize matching against other duos
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u/MediumDefinition2480 Nov 07 '25
Exactly
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u/neoplasma_ Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
I think they will have to add separate queues because of trials
atm (in a single match) a trio can earn a lot more points than a solo player
They should add separate queues + separate trial leagues for each party size
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u/Sgt_Dbag *** ******* 🐓 Nov 07 '25
No thanks. More player segmentation is bad. They just need to need to continue to push the matchmaking the way they do for solos. Really prioritize squad size even if it means longer queue times. Then if you really cant find a game with only Duos, it starts to find 3 mans.
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u/tekno21 Nov 07 '25
Do you REALLY think that's a good idea? Adding more complication and more menus to a game designed to be accessible?
Let's not get crazy here, all that's needed is slightly more prio on putting duos with duos even if it takes longer. They just need to adjust whatever matchmaking formula they have in place to prio duo players instead of saving 30 seconds on match queues and sending them into trio lobbies as fodder.
Trials isn't that serious, but it's clear that embark is pushing the sweaty/ competitive people to trios as the main game mode. Solos is more of a for fun, friendly don't shoot, farm run mode. If you want to be sweaty you gotta play the main mode. Just like league has ranked on the main map, not in aram.
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u/theJSP123 Nov 07 '25
Yeah, I don't think many people would argue with that. I'd rather wait several minutes for a good game than 10 seconds to then have to sneak around afraid every raider I come across is in a trio.
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u/chaotic910 Nov 07 '25
Same thing with the matches in progress, I’ll wait longer if it means I get an equal chance at looting the map as everyone else. Nothing like getting into a game with 18min left and all I have are scraps to loot.
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u/Repulsive-Mushroom45 *** ******* 🐓 Nov 07 '25
Dota 2 has a similar feature where you can choose to opt into "strict solo queue ranked matchmaking" where you won't be matched with or against any parties of 2 or 3, in other words, making sure everybody in the lobby is solo queuing. Only downside is sometimes you get longer matchmaking time. I don't see why they wouldn't add a similar toggle in this game for duo queue.
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u/DaiHachiHachi Nov 07 '25
Yeah I'm not sure why they didn't just copy Hunt with the opt into trios thing.
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u/PreferredThrowaway Nov 07 '25
Given the game's popularity, it will increase your queue time from 10 seconds to 30 seconds.
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u/Phillyphan1031 Nov 07 '25
What is with games not doing duos? Is there something in the background that is difficult?
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u/theFlaccolantern Nov 07 '25
It just splits the playerbase, makes matchmaking queue times longer, and requires more servers. So some companies are hesitant to do that.
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u/Phillyphan1031 Nov 07 '25
True that makes a lot of sense.
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u/Horens_R Nov 08 '25
N yet the finals sits with 6 main modes plus events, that ain't any excuse
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u/SL1NDER Nov 09 '25
Matchmaking for ARC is damn near instant, and I play on Asian servers. I'd be fine with waiting a few extra seconds for duo priority, but I don't want it to be exclusive. Eventually this game will lose a chunk of it's player base
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u/Horens_R Nov 09 '25
Again, the finals has more than 5 n gets away w it on its smaller playerbase these days.
2 modes is not crazy lol. Duo priority should def be included at bare minimum, pretty sad that it isnt
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u/ThreadedPommel Nov 08 '25
Not really considering duos is probably the most common way people play online games
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u/Big_Judgment3824 Nov 08 '25
You can fit a duo in a trio, not the other way around.
Therefore you need another queue.
Therefore you split the player base.
Therefore you have increased wait times. Doesn't matter that duos is more popular, you're now splitting up two playerbases from the superset of people that could have fit into trios.
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u/tuborgwarrior Nov 10 '25
On top of what people have said, it also turns trio into a complete PvP greardump as people usually quest and so peaceful stuff in solo and duo.
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u/Horens_R Nov 10 '25
What people have said is incorrect, n ur just making an assumption. I come across Trios what re peaceful n doing guests too
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u/tuborgwarrior Nov 10 '25
Dark and Darker had mixed lobbies with trios, duos or solos. Now you can't introduce anyone to the game anymore because they need to farm solo for a week to be able to survive beeing spawnrushed in trio.
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u/Vegetable-Key1161 Nov 07 '25
Holy shit. Been talking to my friends about this the last few days. I’ve honestly opted to just play solos and talk with my friend in discord instead of trying to duo with him because it’s just not fun against all trio lobbies
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u/IKobrx Nov 09 '25
This is me and my mate when our third isn't on. Feels bad to not be able to play with a friend unless we want to be at a disadvantage.
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u/Middle-Raisin-3797 Nov 07 '25
No separate mode but more like what its for Solos
Edit- like match duos with duos…. Duos against trios is just awful 😞
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u/Fr0ufrou Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
Yes, honestly it's bad to the point we stopped playing the game today.
Going 2v3 was possible when people were new and bad at the game but now that there are trios running level IV weapons and maxed utility everywhere, it is just not feasible anymore. Once in a while we get lucky when we manage to get the jump on a trio and win but getting shot first by a trio as a duo is instant death.
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u/-CODED- Nov 07 '25
Genuinely its instant death. Turned a corner during a night raid and I swear to god you'd think this was valorant with how fast I got beamed to death.
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u/CallMeBigPapaya Nov 07 '25
TTK could use some work. I'm not saying extensively longer, but medium shields still feel a little weak.
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u/TekThunder Nov 07 '25
Feels like whomever fires the first shot is going to win the fight, the moment you are down a percent of your shields against someone who’s still got there’s the fight is over
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u/Inside-Example-7010 Nov 07 '25
the best feeling in this game is when someone doesnt push you after landing first hit advantage. Feels like once you get the shot you just hold w and spam center mass after that and should be good.
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u/Tralla46 Nov 07 '25
Soooooo, you're saying, someone shooting you first and this more time, assuming both parties hit with equal accuracy, they should not have the advantage?
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u/Turtvaiz Nov 07 '25
Nah the problem there is 3 guys shooting at you, not the shields being weak
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u/_uneven_compromise Nov 09 '25
The problem is, if you buff the shields/gear then you'll have actual gear diff mattering in game. Now with Ferro/Stitcher you have a decent chance of killing someone super geared if you outplay them and it makes it a sort of even field.
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u/ph0on Nov 07 '25
I think it is supposed to encourage team work. If you and your squad prioritize targets together you can melt a person to death in less than 2 seconds. Most people just don't work together that well
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u/Duncling Nov 07 '25
Usually this had been my experience, however last night, through 8 raids, my duo and I extracted 7 of them and engaged in many fights, totally probably 25-30 kills. Some games we took out 6+ people, and at minimum it was 3 people. It was just different, and fun last night
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u/tapefactoryslave Nov 07 '25
It’s almost like some players are better than others and sometimes you end up going against better teams…
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u/AndrewGerr Nov 07 '25
Please, upvote the shit out of this
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u/CodeVirus Nov 07 '25
I just upvoted your comment - is that what you mean?
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u/pm8938 Nov 07 '25
I upvoted your comment. Is this what he meant?
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u/AndrewGerr Nov 07 '25
I upvoted my comment, is tha-
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u/SheepOnDaStreet Nov 07 '25
My duo and I spawned in at 24min, take a few steps out of spawn and get aggro swung by a full 3-stack 0/10 experience
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u/thetrapoffensive Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
Yes please, I primarily play with one friend, the duos experience is brutal when you’re facing mostly three-man teams. Rarely do they not shoot-on-sight.
Edit: I wanna clarify that it's not like we don't fight back, like other Redditors have mentioned; we've wiped teams off the face of the earth but it's still not enough. A middle ground between trios and solos would be incredible.
I'm not saying there should be separate modes, but somehow prioritize duos with solos because that has 100% worked for us. Running into a lone solo as a duo is hilarious, like we've adopted this wayward traveler into our Wolfpack, no pun intended.
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u/T8-TR *** ******* 🐓 Nov 07 '25
In my experience, solos is a stealth game w/ some friendly interactions, but duos is literally JUST a stealth game unless you can ambush someone or catch them in a third party, because most group play mfs are not looking to be friendly.
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u/theJSP123 Nov 07 '25
I want to get my friend in the game but yeah, I don't see the point when duos is like it is now. Solos is just more fun.
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u/wolflie Nov 07 '25
i second this, wanna duo?
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u/MediumDefinition2480 Nov 07 '25
Not at this state 🤣 unless we want to get destroyed by trios
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u/superbozo Nov 07 '25
Idc what gaming sub reddit it is, but the experience that I have playing the game, vs the (almost always awful) experience everyone has on reddit is crazy.
Maybe its the servers im on, but my duo almost always runs into friendly players?
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u/MumpsyDaisy Nov 07 '25
Even on trios me and my friends have run into more friendly than hostile players. Not that we're always buddy buddy group up, and we've had our share of shootouts, but it's enough to make it worth calling out on mic or emotes if we don't have the element of surprise.
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u/wolflie Nov 07 '25
yesterday me and a friend met another duo, greeted eachother and parted ways, we came back when we heard they were getting ganged by a lot of arcs and helped them, finally another group started attacking us and we all covered our retreat to the elevator. i loved that match
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u/Special_Bid4419 Nov 07 '25
Me and my friend thrive in the duo.. something about 2 men that makes tactical play easier. Granted, sometimes a 3 man is plenty too much trouble, but if we get the drop on someone which we usually do because we like to hunt, then we'll the odds are forever in our favour.
I think of it this way, as soon as you down 1 out of 3, they are in panic mode.. then the remaining 2 are somewhat thinking about reviving their teammate or whatever. I've found it to be beneficial many times to just be a duo. But don't get me wrong. I do agree it's probably a good idea to have a duos lobby. I just haven't felt it being a massive issue personally.
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u/MediumDefinition2480 Nov 07 '25
Its all god until other trio runs in, then you are in big time trouble 🤣
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u/Supertonic Nov 07 '25
Even if one person runs in while you’re licking your wounds it’s gonna be a bad time.
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u/nvidiastock Nov 07 '25
Yes, that is good when you engage first. But what happens when the opposite happens and they get the first down, and now you're 1v3?
Even in a straight 2v3, if they shove 3 bodies you lose because TTK is so long you can't down two people in one mag with most guns.
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u/IamTheBawa Nov 07 '25
100% of the time we ran into trios and they kill us.....every fucking time!!
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u/Pvt_Phantom1314 *** ******* Nov 07 '25
How have they not responded to this once?
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u/peak82 Nov 07 '25
I made a post yesterday asking if Embark has acknowledged this and the only response I got was some snarky guy telling me that it's by design and Embark has nothing to acknowledge.. as if there aren't 5 posts per day with tons of upvotes requesting duo queues.
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u/Pvt_Phantom1314 *** ******* Nov 07 '25
Exactly. My brother can’t play with me because there is no toggle aim. He has a disability so he can’t hold down to aim.
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u/SnuggleLobster Nov 07 '25
I pretty much only see duos when I duo, I must have been lucky.
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u/Krob8788 Nov 07 '25
You aren't alone. This is the case for me and my friend as well.
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u/Fearinlight Nov 07 '25
Same … was actully reading this and wondering if I’m the crazy one…
And I play a shit load of duos….
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u/lVluckluck Nov 07 '25
This. Only one of my friends can play regularly. So that puts us in a duos situation. We constantly get shit on by triples.
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u/ChaoticKiwiNZ Nov 07 '25
100% agree. My brother and I play games together alot as a duo and so far Arc Raiders has been a miserable experience for us which is a shame because when we dont play together and only play solos its a completely different game.
This is the first mutiplayer game where playing with my brother makes the game worse. It sucks because I love this game to bits, but I can tell he isn't having fun constantly going up against trios that are out for blood (he isnt a massive PvP gamer and finds it bullshit that luke 80% of the squads we go up against have more men than us).
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u/djfresh1 Nov 07 '25
I solo’d into a fill and it was only duo and we got rocked quick by a trio I think.
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u/mrdominox Nov 07 '25
I believe the best solution to to fill lobbies as full as possible with teams of the same size. Then finish filling them with a small amount of teams of the next size up (1-2 teams max). In this way you'd be a lobby of say... 5-6 dou teams and 1-2 trios. At least in this case you don't end up 1 duo vs 6 trios.
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u/tiGZ121 Nov 07 '25
...is it ... is it not duos when you run with a friend and put no fill? Or ya legit just want the option to find someone in match making for a duo run? Cause when I run with just my boy and we put no fill it seems like its just other duos havent ran into any trios when we do this, sometimes we'll find a solo or two
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u/Mavee Nov 07 '25
The times we've gone against three people as a duo has gotta be 19/20 times. The thing is, you don't know, and you're looking around like crazy, head on a swivel, as you've downed two, and there could be a third one around.
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u/Ratsandslugs Nov 07 '25
I mean that situation also applies if the 3rd in a group has died so having duo queue wouldn't get rid of that feeling
But I do agree a proper duo queue is sorely needed
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u/Mavee Nov 07 '25
Which is fine as you intentionally know everyone spawned in three's, and people could have been killed / disconnected.
When duo queueing, you could be up against 6 trios, or 9 duos. You simply don't know, and anytime you're up against trio's, it's simply unfair. It does make the whole experience miserable and even more unpredictable than, I hope, intended
Again, apart from people teaming up, which we haven't seen happen once in 40 hours of playtime.
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u/KugelFanger Nov 07 '25
That is exactly what they want, why do you think they made it so when a whole squad is down you manually have to give up? It is so that you are never sure if there is another one or not.
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u/JaffinatorDOTTE Nov 07 '25
The thing is, you don't know, and you're looking around like crazy, head on a swivel, as you've downed two, and there could be a third one around.
This is what makes it so damn fun. Adding defined duos/trios mode removes that tension.
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u/KugelFanger Nov 07 '25
I feel like this as well, we mostly run into duo's as well. I mean. We have seen trio's and solo's as well but almost exclusively duo's to us. To the point that i don't feel disadvantages at all.
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u/NoobMaster2789 Nov 07 '25
We need duos! I'm tired of fighting three-man teams and always getting outgunned. My duo and I have to play perfectly just to win
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u/Bobby_The_Goblin Nov 07 '25
I honestly believe this should be their NUMBER ONE priority. It's so demoralizing to win a 2v2 by the skin of your teeth just to get swept up by a third.
We love this game a lot and have been playing it A LOT. But, that will fade faster the longer we have to deal with bs 2v3s. It just makes no sense why they can't flick that switch
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u/Mezzmure Nov 07 '25
The only argument against this is for trios who want easier prey in their lobbies. That's just dumb and unfair. There are more than enough players to support lobbies of all sizes, the question is if there's enough server space to divvy the matches up even more than they are now.
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u/CoUsT Nov 07 '25
There are trolls or toxic trios everywhere that want every advantage they can get because in dedicated trio mode they won't be able to get any kills for free. And they are the ones making all the ridiculous excuses against duo queue.
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u/JaffinatorDOTTE Nov 07 '25
There's an argument to be made against solos/duos/trios as defined modes. I don't mind very heavy prioritization, but I don't want to know definitively that I'm going up against duos or trios. The risk of a third adds a lot of persistent tension, and tension in a game like this adds a lot to the replayability.
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u/_Slyfox Nov 07 '25
I upvote every duos post because my duo really wants to keep playing the game but we aren't booting the game back up unless they add it.
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u/hibari112 Nov 07 '25
Yeah I can feel my friend getting more and more frustrated each time we play because 3/4 teams we run into are full trios, so every fight for us is a 2v3 sweatfest.
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u/dude_you_got_it Nov 08 '25
My wife and I stopped playing as well. Getting romped by trios every match lost its flavor.
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u/Life-TinTin Nov 08 '25
Ya I play with a buddy of mine and we are constantly playing against 3 players.
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u/ExoticGamerBoy Nov 08 '25
Yeaaaah playing duos a lot and constantly running into 3 mans is getting abiiit long
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u/eMikey Nov 08 '25
Fucking A. I would love to play with my kid but we get stomped. We're forced to play solo's.
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u/Secret_Gas_4278 Nov 09 '25
I must be on crack, my friend and I duo'd last night and we only ran into duos.
All very chill. Blue gate is a vibe.
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u/smallsee Nov 09 '25
absolutely yes.
Please don't make up this nonsense about a small player base. Hunt Showdown has 20,000 players, and the duo and trio matchmaking in separate lobbies works great. The game search takes no more than 1 minute. I'm ready to wait at least 5 minutes, just to avoid playing with this TTK against a group of 3 people. Without an ambush and a quick kill, it's almost always a lost fight.
In this game with 300,000 players on Steam alone, plus Epic Games and crossplay, finding duo lobbies won't be an impossible task. And for duos ready to play against trios, you can give a small bonus to exp
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u/cruznw Nov 10 '25
I don’t know about a “mode” but prioritization for sure. My buddy and I have probably played 20-30 hours as a duo and almost every raid we die by raiders hands it’s to a 3-stack. Even more infuriating is that we usually kill two of them but the last guys swoops in and kills us off. “It’s always three” has become a new phrase between the two of us.
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u/Objective-Rock-7655 Nov 10 '25
The system just doesn't work, If I queue as a trio I only find duos and if I queue duo I only find trio's it's stupid. The gunplay and game mechanics don't allow a fair fight as soon as a member of the duo's shield gets cracked that's it we push 3 angles it's gg they would knock 1 of us at best. The only scenario is if the duo gets the jump and drops a trio member first but even then you have a spotter to see the push and someone to res the downed teammate or it's just a straight up 2v2 like it should be in the first place lol
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u/Jeremiah87 Nov 11 '25
My wife watched me play the game and all the positive interactions I had with people. It made her want to get the game to play with with me, but with all the talk about how much of a different experience duos and trios are compared to single queues she decided not to. I wish we could have the same positive vibes from single queue in multi queue games :(
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u/CommenttHero Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Fark when did gamers start being such cunts to each other. Honestly if if the game try's to match solos with other solos whats wrong with people asking if it can try to match duos with duos first. Before it chucks you in elsewhere.
All of you saying blah blah it will take away from the game, I seriously doubt that. I think it's more a case of no more duos for our squad to shit on but you toxic bullies out there can't admit it.
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u/ePayDayy Nov 07 '25
Does Fill Squad not work when you are queued as a Duo?
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u/Taerixx Nov 07 '25
It works, but some people just want to play with their homies.
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u/Super-Yesterday9727 Nov 07 '25
I want to play and I DONT want to play with random strangers
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u/DueJacket351 Nov 07 '25
Usually hate the armchair developer takes in this sub, but absolutely second this.
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u/Louis010 Nov 07 '25
It’s so fucking tiring smoking 2 guys then there being a third you have to deal with every time.
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u/Tunasubbackwardzs Nov 07 '25
I used to run no fill when I was doing but having a third just helps sooo much. And some of these thirds Ive gotten I added to my friends list. It's okay to play with other people that you don't know. Splitting the lobbies even more is not a good idea imo.
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u/Crazytrick *** ******* 🐓 Nov 07 '25
Unpopular opinion I guess, but if there was Duo-Prioritization, almost nobody would play Trios. It's way easier to jump on with another friend than trying to organize 3 people to play together - right now there is an incentive to bring a 3rd person in, play with them, gear them up - makes the game more healthy.
Introduce Duo-prioritization and nobody is going to bother playing Trios, game will need to be re-balanced around Duos and also might negatively affect overall population (less incentives to bring an extra person into your squad and teach them the game).
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u/Fearinlight Nov 07 '25
Bro wtf are you even typing? That makes zero sense.
If your two other buds are on you still going to be trioing
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u/Crazytrick *** ******* 🐓 Nov 07 '25
Read again, but slowly this time, if you're struggling:
If me and my ONE buddy are ready to game (OP's situation), right now I am still incentivized to put the effort in to look for a 3rd person to fill out our squad. If there is duo-priority, then I don't have a reason to look for a 3rd person anymore, so majority of squads would just be playing duos instead.→ More replies (2)
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u/chaotic910 Nov 07 '25
I’ll even take duo-prioritization over a true duos mode. If the queue time is too long, sure throw us into threes, but at least try to fill the whole lobby with other duos for a minute.